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Well, of course Stockton dragged poor Bob down...

But I’m very intrigued to hear your opinion Al. I thought Stockton wasn’t miserable last night, but I hate both the Dodgers and the Cardinals, so I wasn’t paying too much attention to his call. I did make a point of comforting my aching soul by listening to Bob’s sweet voice.

Damnit Twins. Make the most of your off day. Rest. Refocus. Win tomorrow and execute this totally-unlikable Yankees team at the Dome.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Stockton was pretty mediocre as usual.

I didn’t think Bob was as good as usual. After five years of working with someone as good as Len Kasper, it must be difficult to work with someone as bad as Stockton.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have no problem rooting for the Dodgers

I think the Phillies are the team I want to see win in the end, but the Dodgers are way less evil than the Cardinals, which means Go Dodgers Go

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 8, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only until they beat the Cardinals.

Then I’ll be rooting for the Phillies.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 8, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i'm pulling

for the rockies here.

love the underdog.

It's not about money. It's about winning and getting over the hump. We've had the appetizer now, but we left the main course on the table.
-rod beck

by laidbackliam on Oct 8, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So does she:

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Same here.

I watched about six innings of last night’s game and really had no preference going in. But, as the game wore on, I found myself emotionally siding with the Dodgers. Somehow, seeing them beat – and especially sweep – the Cardinals would make last year’s NLDS sit a little better. Maybe that’s shallow and petty but, hey, at least I’m honest.

And somehow it would be cool to see the Phillies either repeat or at least make it back to the World Series to defend their title. Consistency like that would be nice to see.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 8, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My thoughts exactly

And this is coming from someone in Dodger country.

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Oct 8, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll assume after last night that Chris Carpenter should lose his title as "ace"

After all that is the kind of start that explains why Zambrano isn’t an ace, right?

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 8, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If the Cards hitters get the label

“unable to hit in the clutch,” you can take away Carpenter’s title as “ace.” :)

"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray

by Archie on Oct 8, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Dodgers approach was very similar to what they did to Dempster in Game 1 in 2008

Very patient, laying off borderline pitches and forcing the pitcher to come over the plate more to get strike calls.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 8, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All except Belliard

Who decided the best approach was to just start swinging right away. The Dodgers have a great team approach to hitting, and what killed Carpenter was that homer in the first. I think that got in his head and he started to nibble.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 8, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kemp homered on the first pitch he saw.

But overall, the Dodgers exhibited the patience they did throughout the Divisional Series last year.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 8, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know you're probably being sarcastic...

…but I still see Carp as an ace after last night. One mark of an ace is a pitcher who continues to battle even when he doesn’t have his best stuff. He did that.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 8, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yankees lineup

is so damn deep. When Cano and Caberra hit, it is almost impossible to get a easy out.
I am pulling hard for the Twins, but they cannot afford not to get hits with runners in scoring position.
My impression the Cards looked tight. Kemp hitting that homerun in the first was a killer for the Cards. It was almost like it told the Dodgers that Carpenter may not have his good stuff tonight. I just wish they would play 18 innings a night and wear there whole staffs out, I can’t stand either of the teams.

by Grockcubs on Oct 8, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Re: Cards looking tight.

I agree completely. Molina and Dreamy DeRo in particular. Let’s see if Wainwright becomes the clear frontrunner for the Cy Young tonight.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of

Nice throw to the RF by Dero last night, huh?

Been a LOOONNNGGG time since I’ve seen a throw THAT far off.

"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray

by Archie on Oct 8, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He became the playoff DeRo we all knew

Tho his two hits were something new, usually he grounds into double plays at the worst moments

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 8, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he did hit the 2 run home run in the first game last year

i guess that was just an outlier though

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was awful.

And of course Stockton said something regarding the Cubs right after it. Can’t think of the exact quote, but there was something.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But BB stuck up for the Cubs- right???

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He was referring to Bob Brenly being familiar with Mark DeRosa due to his time calling Cubs games

That was what I remember.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 8, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He mentioned that a couple of times

Stockton seemed to defer to Brenly on all things Cardinals, recognizing that Bob would know a lot about a division rival of the team for whom he announces.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So would a lamp post compared to Stockton

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It looked like a little league throw

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 8, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw the throw and it looked like it just flew out of his hand.

Bob Brenly made some comment about how DeRosa is normally one of the most accurate throwing infielders in the league. Stockton mentioned that DeRosa had his right hand stepped on earlier in the game, which may have affected the throw.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The votes are already in

for all the post season awards including Cy Young. So what Wainwright does tonight will not affect his Cy Young chances.

by LT on Oct 8, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gotcha. Thanks LT.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HR balls

Any word if Fuld got his from the fan who caught it ?

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm pretty sure he did.

I was sitting about ten rows behind the guy and when he came back the buzz was that he traded it for an autographed ball.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He seemed like a decent guy in the replay

Except he was wearing a Bear’s Jersey. I remember the story of D-Lee’s first homer which I think was in San Diego.
Guy was happy to exchange the ball for an autographed ball but not from Lee who was a nobody at the time, he wanted one of the star players . I can understand that but if I had caught Fuld’s ball I would have been happy to settle for an autographed ball, a autographed photo and Sam’s help with my taxes this year which are going to be complicated. I figure that his stats background should be just what I need.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope ballhawk will post the story...

… which he wrote for my Cubs annual two years ago, about catching Mitch Lyden’s 1st ML HR.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here it is

Starting Off With A Bang

[6/16/93, Cubs vs. Marlins] Ever hear of Mitch Lyden? Don’t feel bad – none of us had either, even though he was about to become the 68th person to hit a home run in his first major league at-bat. As we sat around not really paying attention, I remember saying to no one in particular, "He’s a catcher. Catchers always pull." so I headed towards the left field line.

C-R-A-C-K !

Here it comes! Right over the old family section, one bounce on the street and ends up under a tree. Because of my foresight (ha!), I had a few steps on everyone else and came up with it. Because it was Mitch’s first homer, someone from the Marlins came out looking for the ball. I went back into the park with him, ready to do some horse-trading. We went straight into the Marlins clubhouse and first thing I see is Charlie Hough sitting on an exercise bike, smoking a cigarette and eating a doughnut. Now that’s my kind of fitness regime…

As for the horse-trading, what I really wanted was something of Mitch’s, preferably a bat. But they had just called him up and he really didn’t have much in the way of spare equipment. So I ended up with a Jeff Conine bat, some autographs, wristbands, and a golf shirt from Trevor Hoffman. He had bought it earlier in the day on Michigan Ave. but his teammates gave him so much grief about the way it looked, he was glad to get rid of it. I never did get to meet Mitch – he was sent down to the minors the next day and only had a few more at-bats in his career. But I’m sure he treasures that ball and being a part of major league history – I certainly enjoyed the small part I played in it.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs

Make it green.

I can forgive you for being a Buckeye now.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great story.

Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT

by sue369 on Oct 8, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right.

And others here defend a 12-year-old girl who is suing a team because of the “value” of Howard’s ball. I still call ridiculous on that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The entire difference here is that Ballhawk is an adult

And in his case that he actually got something in return that’s more valuable than what he had, which is most certainly not the case with the girl in the story. His story is great but it’s not like he gave the ball to the kid for free.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, but neither was he filing a lawsuit.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ballhawk! Get right on that, will 'ya!

Man, gotta lead these litigators every step of the way…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

...because he's an Adult

and as such knew exactly what he was doing when he negotiated away something of value for something else of value.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, not always.

A friend of mine who is a pretty serious collector of “stuff” (for more knowledgeable than me) and had an old photo of Rocky Graziano- autographed. He was SURE the autograph was forged.

He sold it on ebay for $6.

Turns out the Ebay buyer got it authenticated through the Graziano family. It was the real deal.

My friend sighed and said: “Well, at least I got $6.” And promptly forgot about it.

Would that we could ALL do that in a similar situation. He’s a bigger man than I am, I think.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe she just wants the ball back

I’ve seen more than one person inside and outside of Wrigley who ends up with a home run ball from the other team, get caught up in the all the excitement, throw it back (because of some stupid tradition) and then a few moments later, get a sick look on their face because they’d rather have kept the ball.

Unless any of you know exactly what went on and what was said between all parties, you’re all just farting in the wind with your judgments and indictments of everyone involved here.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fuld would likely be better

At figuring out death rates for your insurance company. And this is coming from an Accountant.

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Oct 8, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sue Fuld

The first of 800 will be very valuable.

Chicago
Cubs

We are the better CC.

by Zy Toro Young on Oct 8, 2009 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

How can you not sympathize with the 12-year-old girl in this case?

She was taken into a room and pressured by the team into accepting something in exchange that was worth far less than what she had. There’s no way a girl that age would have an appreciation that she was holding something certainly worth tens of thousands of dollars, something which the Phillies were almost certainly aware of.

To me the story makes the Phillies sound awfully slimy.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Excuse me?

“Tens of thousands of dollars”? Hardly. Reminds me of that greedy guy who tried to sell the Oakland player (can’t recall his name)’s first ML HR for $10,000.

Usually, returning a HR ball to a player results in exactly that — some autographed memorabilia. Maybe it meant a lot to the girl, but filing a lawsuit is way over the top.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I feel bad for the girl

But, and this is just me, I’ll trade a big homer ball for a few autographed things any day. Heck a different signed ball and maybe a bat or something and we have a deal.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 8, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It just reminds you that we live in a very litigious society

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 8, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

I’d bet a $20 that they already have a buyer lined up — although I couldn’t see $10k for it. The point is, she’s a minor, with no comprehension of the value of things. It’s extremely unacceptable to stick a kid in a room alone, and ask her to make what amounts to a monetary decision.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How do we know she was alone?

I imagine a family member or adult went with her. I wouldn’t let MY 12 year old go unescorted in a situation like that- whether I knew what they wanted or not…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Her parents or guardian...

weren’t with her, in a conversation that amounted to a verbal contract. She was alone.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's really strange.

Was she at the game by herself? A 12-year-old? That seems unlikely.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you not read the article...

She was taken alone to have a conversation with the Phillies rep. I’m comfortable assuming that if either of her parents were present, that at least one would have accompanied her. However, they certainly weren’t present when the Phillies decided in their infinite wisdom that a verbal contract with a minor was a chance worth taking.

They took a chance. It didn’t work out. I’m not faulting either side.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do agree...

… that it’s really odd that a representative of the team would have taken a 12-year-old girl alone to do this.

Incidentally, the HR was hit in Miami, not Philadelphia.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But she was taken to the...

Phillies clubhouse, where the Phillies people did this deal.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's still strange that no one at the stadium would have asked if an adult were with her.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe she told them she was 18

Never again…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

She must have been SOME 12-year old...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

She was with her 15 year old brother

who went with her to the office. Yes no adult with them. Hmm you wonder how responsible the parents were. Here is a quote from the lawyer that rubs me the wrong way.
“In a classic bait-and-switch operation, the defendant Phillies tendered to young Jennifer a signed Ryan Howard baseball, which has a value on the memorabilia market of $150,” the suit said, “as compared to the historic baseball, which is worth thousands.”

It is all about the money. With all the publicity she might get a few grand for it ( turns out Howard is the fastest player in MLB history to 200). I know Ryan Howard makes a lot of money but he should not give in to the extortion.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And my question back would be "So what?"...

And really, it’s a rhetorical question. If the ball has a market value, pay the value, and move on.

A couple of thousand dollars isn’t even worth the potential bad PR that ensued. This was amateur night from the get go.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No it wasn't

No one was trying to rip the girl off. Yes they should have waited till she had a parent/adult but my guess is it would have gone something like this. She is at the game with her 22 year old brother and the exact same scenario ensues but when some friend of her parents hears the story their eyes light up and they tell them they were fools and should have gotten cash. There is a long tradition of fans catching balls exchanging them for items from the team. If this girl was a Marlins fan the Phillies could have arranged some of their players to give stuff. I hope the auction fees eat up whatever amount this greedy family tries to sell the ball for.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow.

I hope the auction fees eat up whatever amount this greedy family tries to sell the ball for.

There are a lot of legitimate reasons for the family to feel wronged here, none of which have anything to do with greed. That you can’t talk about this without resorting to a bunch of attacks against their character makes me question yours.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The lawyers comment make it clear that MONEY is all they are interested in.

I was also caught by the phrase “initial” offer which indicates the Phillies have been negotiating but could not reach an agreement.. In this day and age the family is legally entitled to get as much as they can but I can think they are only interested in cold hard cash. I trust if any money is made after the lawyers fee they will put it in a college account. I am not trying to dump on the little girl but she clearly is a pawn.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mongo only pawn...in game of life

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes,

A long tradition of fans exchanging items, who are usually adults, or kids doing so with their parents’ explicit approval.

It really doesn’t matter what the intent was, this was a completely out of bounds move.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

She was at the game with her 15 year old brother.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow. That's hard to imagine. Where were the adults in her life? Asleep? Too drunk in the bleachers?

While the lawsuit is a massive overreaction, the Phillies should be called out for talking to her without an adult present. That’s just dumb when dealing with a minor.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's a historically significant ball by a possible future hall of famer

“Tens” might be a slight exaggeration but it’s certainly worth multiple thousands of dollars to someone out there.

I just don’t understand the backlash here. This wasn’t some scuzzy professional ballhawk holding some rookie’s first home run hostage, this was a girl who was in the right place at the right time, who was clearly taken advantage of by the Phillies.

Is it because she sued? Suing was likely the only way for the family to rectify the situation. They asked for the ball back, and the Phillies offered them tickets instead.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha!!!

And you know damn well the conversation went something like that.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It went exactly like that actually

Kent said he quickly told Phillies attorneys he wanted the ball returned before the season ended or he would file suit. The initial counter offer, the suit said, was for tickets to a Phillies-Marlins game.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like I said...

Amateur night.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is pretty standard to ask the fan to exchange the ball

I doubt her parents where around . I don’t think the Phillies people were deliberately trying to take advantage. Howard’s number 200 HR ball is not particularly valuable. The girl is just a pawn for the greedy parent and lawyer. If I am Howard I let her keep it and have fun trying to sell it on eBay.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can understand why the girl would have wanted to show the ball to her friends.

But filing a lawsuit? Ridiculous. A simple request to keep it for a while probably would have sufficed.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How do you know they didn't ask?

by Texas Wahoo on Oct 8, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I suppose they could have.

Surprising that the Phillies wouldn’t have agreed to a simple request like that, forcing a lawsuit. Seems ridiculous.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And if she was an adult then this wouldn't be an issue

She was an unsupervised minor being pressured by adults into taking an item of minor value in exchange for an item of greater value.

Not to mention that the Phillies also offered to let her meet Howard after the game, which never happened (the game went into extras). So the Phillies didn’t live up to their end of the deal.

The girl is just a pawn for the greedy parent and lawyer.

What could you possibly be basing this on?

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I would be basing that on the fact that the 12 year old herself

was almost surely perfectly happy with the ball ( and some cotton candy). This is about adults introducing greed into a situation.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You don't actually know any 12 year olds, do you?

It’s equally possible that she wanted to keep the ball but felt pressured by adults working for the Phillies and only realized later that she was taken advantage of.

She’s 12, not 4. The idea that she doesn’t understand value and would be just as happy with a pat on the head and some cotton candy is both insulting and patronizing.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

She got an autographed ball and should have met Howard

but for the extra innings. I am sure Howard would have been glad to meet her at another date. This is a standard type exchange for balls with fans regardless of age. Of course as soon as an adult tells her that she should have gotten some cold hard cash for it, things change. Unlike you I don’t think there was a deliberate attempt to take advantage of child , just some bad judgement. LIke I said let her keep the ball and auction it off since money is clearly what her parents and lawyer want but I personally hope whatever she makes is eaten by legal fees and auction fees.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They didn't sue for money, just the ball

Why do you keep assuming they’re in it for the money, of which there was none involved? Maybe this kid just regrets the decision, feels pressured into it, and wants the ball back for the shelf above her bed?

You’re making a lot of assumptions about the character and motives of the people involved, and then attacking them based solely on those assumptions.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and this notion that there is a "standard type" exchange rate makes me chuckle

every situation is unique – and ought to be judged on their own merits.

In fact, any judgment at all should probably be withheld unless you’re privy to all the facts of the matter. All it takes is one reporter with bias one way or another (know of any reporters like that in Chicago?) and they can completely change how each side is portrayed in situations like this.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd guess

No.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know a lot of 12 year olds or recently 12 year olds

Including my youngest nephew who is a big Cub fan. He is a savvy kid and I expect he would have negotiated at least a team autographed bat if he caught a significant ball but his parents would not have hired a lawyer if he only ended up with an autographed ball. If his father was with him I shudder to think what he would get since my brother in law is a die hard Cardinals fan.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now,

what boggles the mind here is that you continue to go on about exchanges and negotiations with kids as if this is acceptable social behavior. It’s not. There a reason that contract with minors are illegal.

That you can’t wrap your head around the notion that a multi-million dollar corporation went and wrangled something of value from a young girl — illegally, mind you — for a well below-market price, and that here family could be upset about it surprises me.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You seem to believe this was a nefarious plot

to deprive a child of money. Was it part of their plan to have the girl at a game without an adult ?
The Phillies/Marlins people made a mistake and transaction was illegal. You will excuse me if I think the greed and behavior of the parents has not done more damage to the girl than not getting “market” value for a baseball.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Below-market price?

It’s a 200th HR ball. How much have you seen those go for lately?

This seems purely mercenary on the kid’s part. Yes, the Phillies and/or Marlins could have handled it better, but this family seems like they’re out for a buck here. Forgive me if I’m not completely sympathetic to that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's not be silly...

The ball is worth more than an autographed ball and a pair of tickets. So, yes, it was a below-market exchange.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is it, though?

A Ryan Howard autographed ball and a pair of tickets is probably worth $200. That’s not enough for a 12-year-old girl?

And you really think that ball is worth more than that?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do...

And see below. I can’t say it any better than Wreckard did.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What's the ball going for on Ebay at the moment? It's there, right? ;)

I’m surprised it’s not.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's a record setting milestone ball from a potential hall of famer

It could sell for thousands today, no question about it. Though I don’t really understand – you say it’s worthless, but that the family are just out for a buck here. Which is it?

I just think it’s so odd who people give the benefit of the doubt here; the family are clearly money-grubbing, greedy scumbags (even though they didn’t ask for any money), but the multi-million dollar corporation and the millionaire who wanted the ball for himself are clearly good people who just accidentally cornered a minor and got her to give them a piece of memorabilia worth thousands of dollars in exchange for a piece of memorabilia worth hundreds.

The memorabilia market is crazy and makes everyone uncomfortable, but it’s not this 12 year old girl’s fault that ball is worth thousands of dollars.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

"Thousands"?

Seriously? I doubt that. The memorabilia market isn’t that crazy.

If it had been a 500th HR ball, or a record-breaker, sure. A record? Yes, but a rather obscure one. A milestone? Yes, but a minor one. Almost 300 players have hit 200 career homers.

If the girl’s stated purpose was “to show it to her friends”, then I’m sure something could have been worked out before a lawsuit was filed. Obviously, the family wanted more than that.

The Phillies and Marlins aren’t completely blameless here, I’ll grant you that, in not getting an adult involved in the exchange. But this family doesn’t come across that well, either.

“Thousands of dollars” — I doubt that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If the girl’s stated purpose was "to show it to her friends", then I’m sure something could have been worked out before a lawsuit was filed. Obviously, the family wanted more than that.

Yes, they wanted the ball back. That’s all. They didn’t sue for money, they didn’t extort autographed bats or ask for season seats or trade for tickets or ask the Phillies to pay through the nose for extolling emotional damage on the girl or any of those ridiculous things.

They asked for the ball back. Nothing more. Who cares what their motives were? The Phillies did the wrong thing, the ball was rightfully hers, and they knew it – they didn’t even try to fight it in court because they knew they were 100% in the wrong.

It’s so weird that you and DS are blaming the victim here.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can't imagine why they would have had to file a lawsuit.

You’d have thought a private negotiation would have been enough.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They tried that.

They even gave the Phillies until the end of the season to make it right and return the ball. The Phillies refused, so they filed the lawsuit and the Phillies immediately returned the ball.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm.

I didn’t see that in the article I linked to. Got a link that says that?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

See above

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I missed that link earlier, sorry.

That does tell a bit of a different story. The Phillies should have made another attempt to at least get her a meeting with Ryan Howard, on a different day, rather than tickets.

This paints the girl and her family in a bit better light.

I still don’t believe the ball is worth “thousands”. Ryan Howard autographed balls on eBay sell for about $100.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Experts disagree

Right now I’d say [the ball] would get somewhere between $1,500 and $3,000 in auction.

-Seth Swirsky, a Los Angeles-based baseball memorabilia collector

That’s from this article, which tells you a little more about the entire back and fourth between the lawyer and the Phillies.

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The article says...

… the girl was brought to the game by her grandfather. Why wasn’t he involved? Where was he when a 12-year-old was taken away by adults?

There has to be more to this story.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love it...

Now check back in 10 – 15 years, when you could be looking a potential Hall of Famer and home run king, and see what it’s worth.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the ball MIGHT be worth a few thousand

and there is no question in my mind from the lawyers comments that the money is what the parents want. I am also struck that they hired lawyer to negotiate a price to get it back before he sued. I suspect they wanted a lot. If this was about the ball they might have done better ( and had my sympathy) if they simply went public with the story before hiring the lawyer. Like I said they are legally entitled to do this since the Phillies/Marlins got the ball from a minor but I think the child is getting the wrong lesson here.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The wrong lesson?

That if someone does something wrong to you that you can first give them a chance to make it right, and if they don’t that our court system is here to protect you?

by Wreckard on Oct 8, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am more than skeptical re "chance " to make it right.

Like I said hire a lawyer BEFORE you go public which would almost surely have shamed the Phillies into giving the ball back. The lawyer clearly wants the money and now the family presumably has to give him a cut of the action.

FYI I am NOT blaming the child but her parents and lawyer.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What I dont understand ...

why are some players so greedy when it comes to wanting these balls to be just given back….Fans pay alot of money for tickets, jerseys etc….I dont expect someone to just give me a $169 jersey. Some players charge for autographs. They might even make money on other items purchased with their names on, tho I may be mistaken. I know the organizations do. I may be wrong but I dont think its right to demand that caught ball back for nothing.

by cooliogirl47 on Oct 8, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Give her back a fake ball

How would she know?

Chicago
Cubs

We are the better CC.

by Zy Toro Young on Oct 8, 2009 12:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I'd actually...

like to hear the answer to this one too.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I seem to remember someone paying over $100,000 for a FOUL ball...

and then blowing it up…

…if you catch my drift ;)

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 11:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ouch. You went there.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would rather not be reminded of that.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All I can say is....

Go Dodgers!!
For that matter, I’m on the ABC (anyone but the Cardinals) bandwagon. I’m willing to watch another Yankees world championship….ugh, can’t believe I’m saying that….if I don’t have to watch the Cards win it.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Oct 8, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ugh.

A Yankees-Cardinals WS is too awful to contemplate.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

With Joe Buck and Tim McCarver on the call!

(I think I just threw up a little thinking about this)

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Oct 8, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just had lunch.

I was wondering why I was just feeling queasy. Now I know.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I threw up A LOT...

The only thing that would make it worse is Jeannie Zelasko…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm almost afraid to ask...

but what’s wrong with Zelasko?

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

She lost me when she very rudely cut off the Tigers' HOF PxP announcer Ernie Harwell during an on-camera interview during the 2006 WS.

No subtlety. She was getting the wrap-up in her earpiece and just dumped him like yesterday’s trash. Unacceptable and bush league

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fair enough...

Even I agree that they should never let her out of the studio.

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

She never had me to begin with, but on the slim chance that she had...

after she did that to Ernie, I woulda permanently affixed that earpiece to her ear and hooked it up to a iPod playing nothing but Woo! Woo! 24/7.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

NOW 'yer talkin'!

Let’s TRY it!

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mean really. Ernie's FORGOTTEN more about baseball than Zelasko will ever KNOW.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only thing I would like out of a Yankees Cardinals WS would be...

…for the series to go seven games and game seven goes 30 innings. Bud Selig then declares the World Series a tie and gets ousted from office.

A man can dream can’t he?

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 8, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about this?

Each team wins three games and then a massive snowstorm buries New York and St. Louis until spring. They can’t play… unless they move game 7 to Milwaukee, where massive numbers of Cubs fans boo both teams.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about this? All the other major league teams disappear into the Bermuda Triangle and the Cubs win the WS

as the only other MLB team still in existence. (Tell me it won’t eventually come to this for the Cubs to WIN a WS…)

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and Drayton McLane would still call up the commish's office and complain...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

His heirs. He'd be on the 'Strohs plane...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's an easy choice.

Go Yankees in that scenario. I honestly dislike the Yankees and the Red Sox less than I dislike the Cardinals or Dodgers or Phillies or Mets because they’re AL teams. I don’t really have an AL rooting interest so I have nothing in particular against NYY or Boston.

by cubsforever on Oct 8, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's hoping the Dodgers sweep the Cardinals,

and TLR decides his team needs to get more left-handed so we take Pujols off his hands for Miles and Bradley.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

My gosh

Mozeliak and Tony La Russa would have to be extremely drunk to make that trade happen. It would be great for us.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 8, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Extremely drunk

I’m sure they are already half way there. Close the deal Jimbo!

Chicago
Cubs

We are the better CC.

by Zy Toro Young on Oct 8, 2009 12:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't put passed TLR

He is quiet the drinker/driver. Go Dodgers.

by sloathcheck78 on Oct 8, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok I'm out to start tailgating

Mizzou plays Nebraska tonight on ESPN so take a baseball break and watch us lose in the pouring rain.

Go Phillies, Dodgers, Angels

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 8, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Go destroy Nebraska.

And let Kansas take the North. Please.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It doesnt matter

The north will just get killed by Texas. Hook Em! \-/

Chicago
Cubs

We are the better CC.

by Zy Toro Young on Oct 8, 2009 1:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Uh-huh.

Because everything’s bigger in Texas, Godzillatron, cowboys, Matthew McConaughey, etc. I’ve seen that movie before, it’s boring.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

Cuz we’re just better at football. :)

Chicago
Cubs

We are the better CC.

by Zy Toro Young on Oct 8, 2009 1:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

That's okay.

I’ll take my KU basketball championship and KU football Orange Bowl victory in 2007/2008. Top that. 49-5, best combined record for D1 school…EVER. E-V-E-R.

Oh, and we are preseason #1 in basketball this year, too.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But, are they scrappy?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope.

Our football team broke the thumb of our starting guard in THREE fights between football/basketball two weeks ago (on campus fights! Woo!), our bench walk-on guard got busted for DWI, and our starting PF just got in a car accident. It’s gonna be an exciting KU season, full of drama.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And FYI

…it has been POURING rain here in Lawrence all day, hard. I’m what, 3-4 hours west of you? It’s not gonna let up by game time.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It didn't let up

I stood in the pouring rain the entire day, still can’t feel my feet or fingers really and we managed to lose. Pathetic

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 8, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL MISSOURI.

Awesome game. NOT.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The best thing about that game was the free Coke Zero given to me as I walked out

And I couldn’t even drink it because I’m too cold

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You guys played WAY better than Nebraska, and even that was horseshit.

Why neither team committed to the run for the entire game boggles my mind. KU is going to destroy both of those teams.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 9, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It only gets worse from here for Mizzou

At Okie state and home vs. Texas next two weeks. No Dez Bryant is nice, but it might not matter

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have three points:

First, whomever announced the Twins/Tigers game the other night should be shot. That was some of the worst announcing I have ever heard.

Second, I cannot stand the fact that the Yankees get to dictate when and how this series plays out. This is an absurd advantage for the home team. You already have home field advantage, you should NOT be allowed to further stress the Twins (or whichever team) to playing on minimal sleep. I loathe Bud Selig so much.

Third, all those games sucked. I’m hoping for better games today. The BCB boards were empty, what’s up with that, guys n gals?! I am way over the Cubs not being in the playoffs; the MLB playoffs are so exciting and stressful I just love watching every game.

Dan

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey now, I was in there!

I got in late, but I was there.

My only regret was that I missed the “fun towns” segment. I have a good one from Germany from a few years back.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excpet last night's, apparently :P

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I may show up after this round. Right now, I'm still to bummed about the Cubs and Tigers being out to want to see anyone else...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey man, good luck in Illinois this weekend!

Illinois is underachieving this year, could be a win for Michigan State.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hope so. I'm worried about an emotional letdown.

Good luck to the Badgers and Buckeyes. May the better team win…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We will.

We are 14 point underdogs, which is just ridiculous. Our power running game is at peak form, Scott Tolzen is one of the most efficient passers in the land, and the Buckeyes have won only 7 out of the last 13 matches with the Badgers. We are going to win.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

16, according to the Sporting News

I love it…keep flying under the radar.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, when was your last game at Camp Randall Stadium?

I moved out of Wisconsin in 1998. My last Badgers game at Camp Randall was homecoming in 1995 or 1996 against Michigan State, who had Tony Banks at quarterback.

Wisconsin won, 41-14 or 45-14, it was a blowout. I’m amazed I can still recall the game’s score … I was only around ten years old at the time.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I get to a lot of the Big 10 games

I saw the MSU game in person. Actually, I saw a better game than that, because I was there with my parents, who wanted to beat the rush when it was a blowout with about 2:00 to play.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd like to make it back to Camp Randall Stadium at some point.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope I get tix for next week....

If they pull it off this week, that’s going to be one helluva great atmosphere.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If we win this week...

…we will be playing for the Big 10 title next week against Iowa. F-ing IOWA!

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm giddier than that . . .

If we win this week, we’re in the top 15. If Iowa beats Michigan big, they could be the second top 10 team UW faces in a row . . . .

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or we just lose and go back to doing what Wisconsin usually does:

Start off 5/6/7 and 0

Lose 2/3/5 of last 5/6

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What fun is that to ponder?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not only that,

But Ohio State barely beat Navy earlier this year. Beating Navy is not something to brag about … Navy is not that strong a contender in the armed forces schools.

Wisconsin will win.

My favorite Wisconsin-Ohio State moment is from 2003. Ohio State, just off a national title win, went to Wisconsin, and the Badgers won 17-10. One of my happiest days as a Badgers fan.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have a picture of me at that game when the crowd is tearing down the goalposts. Let me find it.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guess what?

I just found this link online. You can watch that game again!

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good god, there goes the next 90 minutes.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know, I'm going to be watching that one when I come home from work.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Last week, I watched the end of the Minny game from 2005

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh man, well do I remember that game.

Could not believe what happened at the end.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was at that game, too.

In the end zone where the stupid frosh kicker from MN f-ed up.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cool!

I was at a bar in Kenosha. A few Gopher fans were in the other room, whooping it up for 59:20.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't remember what I was doing,

But I watched that game on TV. I was going wild after the punt was blocked and the Badgers recovered it in the end zone.

Probably one of the most improbable victories in Wisconsin’s history.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah.....

Meanwhile, I listened to game 4 of the NLCS while a fan next to me did the same. Late in the game, with the Cubs up by 5 or so, he said something to the effect that only a Cub fan would be nervous at this point.

I remember the party on State Street, and someone (maybe Dan) with a cheesy beard, Cub shirt and courdouroy sport jacket high fiving me and saying, “We’re going to the World Series!” It’s not over yet. “Yeah it is!” No, it isn’t.

Sigh.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, my bubble just burst in a big way.

Sigh.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry...

How about this for an OSU memory? Quickly down at the Horseshoe 17-0, scoring 42 unanswered points to win in 1999?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can do you one better.

This memory, right after Ohio State’s national title in 2002.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I'd be watching if not blocked at work

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's one for an OSU fan (sorry ballhawk): MSU-OSU in 1974!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7AV7t9d-bk

I was at this game. 45 minutes after the final gun, we STILL didn’t know who won…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The guy was an idiot...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just young.

Too young to remember even 1984….

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ron Zook is doing a horrible job of managing that team.

How he’s not getting performance from Juice Williams boggles my mind.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me too.

Juice Williams is a good player, what is going on with that team?

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really. I thought that kid was the second coming of Christ...

…or at least Antwaan Randle-El

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

First: Chip Caray and Ron Darling

I don’t have too many problems with Caray (memories clouding my judgment, maybe), but Ron Darling was pretty much unbelievably terrible. I’m pretty sure he wasn’t watching the same game I was.

Second: I hate that too. I really hope the Twins win this series (unlikely) for more reasons than my standard Yankee-hate.

Third: I stay enthused about baseball since I know it’s a long and cold winter coming, but my heart just isn’t in it. Certain games (like Tuesday’s) will captivate me, but if there are many more games like yesterday I won’t be able to watch too much playoff baseball.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

When Darling talked about the 1968 Tigers' WS win healing the city after a "terrible summer of race riots"...

it sounded fine. The only problem with his story was that it was wrong. The Detroit riots happened in 1967, not 1968.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There were also riots in 1968....

… after Martin Luther King’s assassination.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, but the riot wasn't exclusive to Detroit- other cities had them...

and they weren’t as destructive to Detroit as those in ’67.

Maybe I’m nit picking…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, you're probably not.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here we go Red Sox-here we go!

GO RED SOX!! ALL THE WAY!!

"Hey-Hey! Home Run! Attaboy Ronnie!" ~ Jack Brickhouse

by ronsanto10 on Oct 8, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't wait until TBS is no longer carrying the games

Bon Jovi quit being inspiring music for sporting events in 1992

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Go Phillies!!!

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Rox out to a quick 1-0 lead

Due to speed on the basepaths

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They won't hold on to it

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's all they get

Phils go around the horn to finish the inning

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Serious delay on the video stream this evening

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's a LOT of string between the paper cups at your house overseas and in Philadelphia...

Lots of string…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And it gets all soggy near Greenland - That does not make things better

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

3rd out now

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

MLB-AM's bandwidth [expletive deleted] this evening.

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Can't WAIT for MLB.TV to email or call me about RE-upping for 2010.

Then I can tell them what I think of their “service”. (Like they’d care…)

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

A series of very polite but firm E-Mails to the CEO of MLB-AM...

…appeared to help fix the time needed for the audio archives to be made available after the last out.

Often I listen to the games the following morning at work, i.e. in the middle of the night US time. For awhile the archives were not coming up until 2 PM Munich time. After my mails this stopped and generally the archives were up by 8 AM, including the west coast night games.

I wish they has implemented the (promised) sync tool for TV video and radio audio.

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kinda of lonely here right now

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Sorry working on a proposal

Go Phillies.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You don't have be soory for working.... Go Phillies is good however....

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good luck - are you confident he's going to say "Yes"? ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

me too

:(

"This next song... it's about the White Sox. It's called: F*** Em'." - Eddie Vedder

by PacificCub on Oct 8, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm tired

Thinking about napping. Gotta go in tomorrow to fill out paperwork for the new gig which starts on Monday. My napping opportunities will be seriously limited after this weekend. :(

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good luck with the new gig.

I’ll be going to bed in 30 minutes or so. The alarm is set for 04:00 and it is 21:35 local now.

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that when a crowd thinks a balk should have been called

They should all start making chicken noises – it would be freakin’ hilarious.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Something like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7D8aDp3RUs

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The NHL keeps talking about wanting to reduce the amount of fighting

I think if the players were to do this instead, nobody would complain all that much.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

On skates??? Now that would be funny.

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Torrealba deposits a mistake in the bleachers

3-0 Rockies

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Mist!!! ☛ I. Do. Not. Want. To. See. The. Rox. Win. ☚

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go Rox.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey hey

I’ve got my ties to the Rockies, you’ve got your ties to the Phils. Neither of them is the Cubs. Let me come to terms with not seeing the Cubs for the rest of the winter in my own way! ;-)

No anger, just love.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

*rest of the FALL and winter

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Full ACK - No offense intended and none taken...

We are all suffering from PSDS…

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That reminds me of a joke about a woman with a thick east coast accent

goes up to a clerk behind the counter at a jewelry store and asks “Do you have something for PSDS?”

“Excuse me?”

“Do you have anything for PSDS?”

“I’m sorry – I don’t understand what you’re saying.”

(points to side of her head) “You know, pierced ears.”

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

PSDS = Post Season Distress Syndrome and not pierced ears...

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Time for a Phillies rally... Go Phillies

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If Colorado can hold on to this lead

this series will be flipped. Rockies are mighty tough at Coors Field.

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

What's their record in the snow?

Rox take a 4-0 lead to the bottom of the 5th

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't think they will {said in my youthful naivety}

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hee hee... the Phillies pitching coach is Rich "Dubee"

wonder if he tells his pitchers to just take it one hitter at a time…

wonder if he has any brothers…

ok, I’ll stop for now – gotta go get some munchies. Mmm… cheetos…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Shhh! Don't tell Geo!

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Guten Nacht and may the right teams win.

It’s 10:15 PM here and the alarm is going off at 4…

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hope you have a Guten Morgen

There will still be baseball when you wake up!

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is Guten Morgen related to Captain Morgan?

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

/reply fail

They’re both ancestors of mine.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

How about "Morganna the Kissing Bandit"?

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

She's unrelated.

Thankfully.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and what about my wife?

yes, Morgan Fairchild is my wife. What, you don’t believe me?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's the ticket!

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They're both ancestors of mine.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Double to the wall in LF

Plates a Phil and chases Cook. 4-1 Rockies

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Who are you rooting for Clutch?

Change is inevitable; progress is optional.

by Devin B on Oct 8, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pretty neutral, leaning slightly toward the Phils

My dislike for Victorino keeps me from leaning all that far, though

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've got no reason to dislike the Rockies.

Or really the Phils even. I definately want the winner of this series to make it to the WS.

Change is inevitable; progress is optional.

by Devin B on Oct 8, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not real big on either of the teams in the other series, either

Although I’d like to see a Dodger sweep in that one. It probably won’t really shut the Cards fans up (“We only got swept one year in a row!”), but they’ll be subdued.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bradley coulda done that.

Change is inevitable; progress is optional.

by Devin B on Oct 8, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Rox go to the bullpen...

They pay the price. 4-3 Rockies now.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Around the horn ends the threat in the 6th

4-3 Rox

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Stevie!!!!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Happ's knee has an owie

Stevie Eyre coming in

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow I did not realize Happ was not in the rotation.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Stevie left one in there

Sac fly, 5-3 Rox

Top 7, 2 out, 1st and 3rd

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow

huge SF with 2 strikes by Fowler. 5-3 Rox.

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Helton FO6

Stretching, 5-3 Rockies

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Great job by Stevie

Keeps Phillies in the game. Yep he sure was worthless and washed up in 07.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He's still in Lou's doghouse

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's junk like the doghouse

that make me question Piniella. But then again, he’s been successful in the past. I just don’t know anymore. I hate these offseason streams of consciousness.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

When did Lou win his last WS?

1990?

Marge Shott: “What have you done for me lately, meat?”

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Phils go 1-2-3 in the 7th

6 outs to go for Rox!

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey are you turning your back on your roots ?

Are you still holding 64 against them ? No love for the old “home” town ?

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No

Actually 1964 is what made me a Phillies fan.

I just like the Rockies. I remember how happy Todd Helton was when the Rockies swept my D’Backs in 2007. Would love to see him get another shot at a ring.

The Phillies had their year last year, but I wouldn’t be sad if they won another one. Just wish Harry Kalas was still around to sing “High Hopes” in the clubhouse.

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Giambi

has become a folk hero in Denver. He has been sensational for them. Who woulda thought?

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Cubs should have signed him.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

n/t

by Damen Jackson on Oct 8, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To play where? RF? Is he able to run anymore?

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rox have used him almost exclusively

as a late inning PH. I think he still can play 1st base in a pinch.

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He played a handful of games at 1B...

… but mostly was a PH. The Cubs could have used him exactly that way.

If somehow the Rockies make the WS — well, they have an outstanding DH.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not according to the A's

they released him, y’know.

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

True.

Apparently, he’s rejuvenated with the Rockies.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's the mountain air.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 8, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They already have a better LH DH though

by the name of Brad Hawpe. Against LHPs…I’m not familiar enough with their team’s splits to know.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hawpe

slumped very badly at the end of the year. That was the biggest reason they got Giambi.

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm

Looking at his monthly splits, he didn’t HIT very well the last month (.208), but still got on base at a nearly .400 and when he did hit, he hit for power (5 doubles, 4 HR out of his 15 total hits in the last month). He may have slumped by his standards, but I think he’s still a far superior option to an aging Giambi. And I LIKE Giambi and think he’s useful, but Hawpe is the way to go when/if they need a DH against a LH starting pitcher. Both are HORRIBLE defensively, and the Rockies have decent hitting, plus defenders at the positions they would play.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so you're saying...

…the thong move would not have been the wrong move?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Groan.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's see. Giambi coming off the bench to PH or Aaron Miles...

Which one do I choose?….

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And have him take those

key PH appearances away from Aaron Miles down the stretch? :-)

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now pitching for the Phils

Bastardo!

Dan LeBatard should get an interview.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Mi favorite player to ever grace a MLB uniform.

God bless his poor soul.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The wheels are turning now

Manuel vs Tracy, two old school guys. Manuel wins that duel. Gotta love playoff baseball.

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are two other players named "Bastardo" currently in the minor leagues.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I have two new heroes.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Astros have a pitcher named Bazardo.

I’m dying for a Bastardo v. Bazardo matchup.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 8, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd pay good money to hear Ronnie call the PxP (or even the color) for that matchup!

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 8, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Werth solo HR

5-4 Rox, bottom 8

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Werth makes it 5-4

with a shot into the CF seats

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Matt Stairs up with 1 out

he hits Street well, with a couple of HRs. Good matchup for the Phillies

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Matt Walks

Any excuse for my favorite Matt Stairs clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqZDe4364BI&feature=PlayList&p=EFA447728896816B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Priceless. Hadn’t seen it before. Thanks for sharing.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Classic.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 9, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

gee

walking someone helps the roster turn over?

i had no idea…

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

That was a really good game.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It was

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rockies get split

on to Denver and some chilly, wet weather!

by azjazzman on Oct 8, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's going to be an interesting weekend of baseball...

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Weather forecast for Sat & Sun in Denver.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 8, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Makes Chicago weather this week look like summer.

by mykalmorgan on Oct 8, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just what I was thinking after seeing the graphic

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Orlando Cabrera hits the Z note

It turns out that it isn’t so easy to break a bat over your knee.

The writer goes all the way back to Bo Jackson to reference a player who does this — maybe Z is lower-profile than we give him credit for.

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 8, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I didn't know Ethier

Solo shot, tie game

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Why is there a Angels fan @ the Dodgers game?

This makes no sense.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe he's going to both games?

He should probably leave now to get to Anaheim by the 3rd inning.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dodgers fans are horrible.

Just horrible, horrible people. They don’t even watch the game.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

MANNY IS THE MAN

BUT I HATE BARRY BONDS THAT CHEATING JERK

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHAHA

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

but as a Dodger fan (who always appreciates the Cubs and their fans) I find this comment intolerable. There are Dodger fans who are assholes and idiots. There are the same number of those people in every fanbase. As a loyal D fan who reads and learns as much about them as I can from Dodger Thoughts, True Blue and other sources, I can tell you there are plenty more like me. Where did come up with that stuff?

Sorry to the rest of you, I just had to say something.

The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".

by underdog on Oct 11, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This just in

Brendan Ryan of the Cardinals will not be making the trip back to St. Louis for Game 3 of the NLDS. Ryan’s agent reports that he and his mustache have been offered a lucrative multi-picture deal in the San Fernando Valley.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i remember last year when manny was hitting those pitches in to lake michigan

someone needs a clomid run

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

$#@%! Cha Cha Slide

All of you are crappy fans! (clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap)

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Worst fans in all of baseball?

Discuss.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least they show up

I’m lookin’ at you, Miami!

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Washington, Pittsburgh, Phoenix and Kansas City are also gettin' a look...

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kansas City fans are not bad.

Their team is horrible. There’s a big difference.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I know. Pittsburgh fans cannot be more loyal either.

I was just going off on a bit of a rant.

I maintain Dodgers and White Sox fans are the absolute worst.

by chilango2 on Oct 8, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, they now share a spring training complex...

…so maybe they’ll learn from each other. Then again, two wrongs don’t make a right…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

mark derosa with 5 hits in the postseason

who are you and what did you do with mark derosa?

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Does Molina hafta check every single time the guy takes the bat off his shoulder?

I mean, even a millimeter off? You could really mess with his head…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You know what this broadcast is missing?

“Give it to a kid.”

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

...and more len casper

by 12to23to17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice catch

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

that was very soriano-esque...

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he SHOULD have hopped

by 12to23to17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it looked like he caught it right in the cojones

I don’t know how he didn’t hop

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 8, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

soriano can teach him the art of hopping

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just stopped in and was wondering if there's been talk of this

Chris De Luca of the Chicago Sun-Times believes the Cubs are pushing the Rays to make a deal for Milton Bradley quickly.

swap for pat burrell…ugh, but anything is better than MB

by 12to23to17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Nope, no talk.

No talk at all.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 9, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

bad call me thinks

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Franklose

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

gotta blame this mess on holiday

by 12to23to17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

career years are funny

they usually come back to earth at the worse possible time…

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

2008 DeRosa, anyone?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, big collapse by the Cards

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by MrNFL on Oct 8, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Cardinals sapped their farm system

For Holliday.

Oh man.

Change is inevitable; progress is optional.

by Devin B on Oct 8, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

And now he's crying in the dugout

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Something about the Dodgers.

Just makes people play bad defense…

Change is inevitable; progress is optional.

by Devin B on Oct 8, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They are really going off on him

over at VEB. I’m not sure they would be in the playoffs without Holliday though.

by LT on Oct 8, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

substitute Soriano for Holliday

and I am sure that you can relate…

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 8, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yep

I can relate to melt downs and overreactions lol. Some dude just said he hoped the Dodgers plane went down. It’s getting rough over there.

by LT on Oct 8, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

this is one of the funniest cardinal losses ive seen in a while

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I enjoy them all for different reasons, really

But I like this one a lot.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I always hate taking pleasure in the misfortune of others

But this is pretty much the best I’ve felt after a baseball game all season.

by mgrace17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Seriously I agree.

Change is inevitable; progress is optional.

by Devin B on Oct 8, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder why I am so happy just now.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh by the way, for those that are as sadistic as I am...

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/10/8/1077278/gotta-be-kidding-overflow

by mgrace17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good idea. Let me go and express my sympathy. :-)

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You should just read what is being said

you wouldn’t like it if it was the other way around.

by LT on Oct 8, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I completely agree

Regardless of what a fan of a rival team said to me, I would hate them

by mgrace17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Of course I didn't say anything. That wouldn't have been cool.

I expressed my sympathy to myself.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha me too

I think I’ll record sportscenter so that I can watch the highlights whenever I get pissed about the Cubs

by mgrace17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe I'll put it on my ipod to keep me company on long plane trips.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

holy crap

I took a look, and it is ugly over there. Not a real witty bunch, are they?

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They're not as used to it as we are, obviously

Cubs fans’ gallows humor > Cards fans’ gallows humor

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It looks like a few of their "character" guys

Have stepped in over there now, to calm down the profane masses and remind them that the sun will come up tomorrow.

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 8, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he’s our bartman

that didnt take long…

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think they were talking about some guy they call zoom zoom?

by LT on Oct 8, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"i want anyone but ryan franklin as our closer next year"

I can think of a guy…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dang!

Are they allowed to swear like that…..I’ve just been to hell and back.

by cooliogirl47 on Oct 8, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Made me blush, it did... ::blush::

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I thought this site gets testy when the Cubs lose.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We're restrained and somewhat family-friendly

Compared to other places around the SBNation.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From a cardinal fan on VEB: "we can always hope the dodgers plane crashes"

classy.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Meh.

Somebody on here today said that Miles should be executed.

by Kansas25 on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if i knew how to make .gifs

i would make one of holliday dropping that ball

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It'll be out there soon enough

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

by IllinoisCubs on Oct 8, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

There it is in all its glory. C-H-O-K-E.

Cards fans can’t talk to me about Bartman anymore without my talking about Holliday’s choke in the 9th inning.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn't do much for me

Cubs still on the outside looking in. I’ve seen this show with blue and white costumes; I take no pleasure in somone else’s misery.

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 8, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dont know...

watching it in slo-mo….I also feel like I’m reliving a moment

by cooliogirl47 on Oct 8, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but then

I go back to the Cards game threads and I’m laughing again!

by cooliogirl47 on Oct 8, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's gonna leave a mark

maybe two…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 5:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

priceless

"hey

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, it really did hit him in the gnads.

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by dat cubfan daver on Oct 9, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's what happens...

…when you take the kind of choppy steps to the ball that he did. Your head is bobbing up and down and you have no bearing on where the ball is.

Besides that, it looked like the ball hit him right in the nuts.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Oct 9, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK, kids

Enjoy the Angels game. I hate the CF camera well in Anaheim so much that I cannot watch live games from there.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

lol

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

2 things

1. lol at the Cards
2. Sucks to be DeRosa …. can’t beat anybody in the playoffs

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Oct 8, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

oh and 1 more thing

3. I hate you Huet.

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Oct 8, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

dero has actually hit in this series though

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah that's my point. He can hit all he wants, and the team still loses

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Oct 8, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holliday just got a lot more affordable

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 8, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I mean

I don’t want the Cubs to get him, just commenting on his plummeting stock.

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 8, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i want the Cubs to get him. It's not going to happen but you know...

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Oct 8, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not that I truly know...but that was such an easy play...I think that Matt just choked.

He knew it was gonna be the final out of the game, and he lost his concentration. Choke. Feel sorry for him, but not for the Cards.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

can somebody tell me what happened to Holliday?

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Oct 8, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

choked on a sinking linedrive that woulda been the final out

by 12to23to17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he pulled a soriano

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He dropped

a fly ball that would have been the final out of the game. Dodgers then knock that runner in and go on to blow it later in the inning. A crushing defeat for STL.

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Oct 8, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

thanks guys

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Oct 8, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

by IllinoisCubs on Oct 8, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Now they are blaming it on Bob Brenley

the comedy just keeps on getting better over there.

by LT on Oct 8, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i'm sure next it'll be the bud light fan cam

and that just means the next target is the gatorade dispensor

by 12to23to17 on Oct 8, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you see where one person blamed it on the Cubs that the NL Central hasn't

won any playoff games? I guess he must have been kidding. Right? :-)

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Losing in an excruciating way

can make a person think like an idiot. Bob Brenly hexed Matt Holliday and the closer Franklin too. Heh. That’s some funny shit.

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Oct 8, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

cardinals need more LH hitters

Geovany Soto is the new 2008 Derrek Lee

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ha! LMAO.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw that

Keep it classy San Diego

by LT on Oct 8, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I can think of a guy…

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 8, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Have I got a deal for you...

Low Mileage
Accident free
Low fuel consumption
Inexpensive
Left handed

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COOL BEANS!

by lexmarklover on Oct 8, 2009 8:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good Morning, I seem to have missed the best.... Poor lil' birdies...

I hate having to go to work this early – it’s 3:55 AM here.

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 8:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Holliday lost it in the lights

“I lost in the lights”… and got it in the crotch

by IllinoisCubs on Oct 8, 2009 9:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Classic. Epic Fail.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He should have hopped.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 8, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wainwright just blamed it on the "white towels"

by oshea2002 on Oct 8, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

If SB Nation ever comes up with a yearly awards show (they could call it the eSBys)

…I nominate this one for the 2009 Best Post-Game Comment After A Loss category

fuck fucking fuker fucked his fuckinf fuckface fuckshit turd ass hole frikerfuckerfatter

compliments of our good friends over at Viva El Birdos…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

good conjugation

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 8, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is that in Present Subjunctive tense, ya think?

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To paraphase Boondock Saints

“Well, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word.”

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Oct 8, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love that movie...

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 5:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am going to sleep tonight with a heavy heart knowing that Cardinal fans everywhere

are besides themselves with anguish. Oh, my. It will be so ~~easy~~, oops, I mean difficult—to sleep tonight.

BTW, what will the best fans in the MLB do with all their classy T-shirts now? You know, like here.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They still won the division. For whatever that's worth.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 8, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

apparently it's worth 3 more games than us... oh well.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As bad as this is to say....

I’m going to enjoy watching the Dodgers beat the Yankees in the WS this year.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 8, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am going to enjoy a Phllies Bosox WS

And I like both of them so choosing one to root for will be tough.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 9, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah. They're a good team. Congrats to them for winning the division.

I can’t say I am crying because of the massive choke job they’ve had to endure tonight. Maybe this will bring them some well-needed humility.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Oct 8, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah

St. Louis fans are anything but humble. They’ll whine and blame the Cubs.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow just got back and saw the Cardinals score

Gee I can’t wait to see the low lights. I might call my brother in law and gloat.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

ask him why "The Genius" had Holliday in left in the 8th inning of a game in which they had the lead...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 8, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just got through the play by play

Seems more on Franklin than Holiday to me. Anyway looking forward to seeing the video later.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw it live....it should have been a routine play.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 8, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh I get that part

But Franklin only had to get one guy out after that and he couldn’t

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's had a problem for the last month with that...

which is why you put your best DEFENSE on the field late in a playoff game.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 8, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You mean like the game where Lou used Fuld to PH in the 7th

Down by two with two out ( he got a hit but it amounted to nothing) and then had to leave Hoff in for the 9th after the Cubs got the lead because he had NO defensive replacement left and Hoff misplayed a ball so the Cubs eventually lost. Yes I have heard of that but still Franklin should have been able to get an out.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No...not like that at all....

we didn’t have a LEAD.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 8, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Silly me. It makes so much sense to use your defensive replacement

to pinch hit with no one on and two out when you have most of the rest of the bench available because you would never actually take the lead and need someone to place defense . Not a playoff game of course just one of the many games the Cubs could have/ should have won and gotten to the playoffs.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whatever....LaRussa is dumb.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 8, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

...

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 9, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seeing the Cardinals lose again made my day

They’re only one game away from being swept.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 8, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and then theyll say

they werent swept twice in a row

"hey

by jesus christos on Oct 8, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, there's always next year.

I mean, we can hope, can’t we?

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 8, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cards fans always make excuses

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 8, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But hey - at least they're the best excuses in the world!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 8, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

I sense material coming for a whole new set of t-shirts for the St. Louis boys…

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 9, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

here is the excuse

“He lost the ball in the 50,000 white towels shaking in front of his face,” starting pitcher and would-be hero Adam Wainwright said. “It doesn’t seem really fair that an opposing team should be allowed to shake white towels when there’s a white baseball flying through the air. Dodger blue towels — how about that?”

From the St Louis Dispatch

"Cubs Win!" "Yes, Sir!" - Pat and Ron, June 12, 2008, Walk off HBP, bottom of the 11th
#8719 on the Cubs Season Ticket waiting list.

by Charlemagne on Oct 8, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Butch up

The shot of Holliday misplaying the ball is now my desktop at work.

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Oct 8, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope that's real

It would be hilarious if it was.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 8, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know about that one but this is real

from the Post Dispatch. Such classy writers to go with the classy fans.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/berniemiklasz/story/8734E53B994140B98625764A0012F87B?OpenDocument

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You have got to be fucking kidding me

That POS article got printed? It isn’t the Cubs fault your freaking starters can’t get outs and your bullpen imploded St. Louis. Score some god damn runs or shut the hell up, really this is a lesson to all the d-bags that root for that team. The Cubs aren’t the only team that gets beat up in the NLDS

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This guy must have some pull with the paper. No way an editor should have OKed printing the POS.

An who the f**k is “Bernie Miklasz”? Looks like a typo.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 5:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The sad thing is he is just doing what he knows will bring in readers

Just like all the fun Cubs writers. The excuses are running wild in Cardinal nation- lights, white-towels, and just in case have somebody blame the Cubs. People will eat that crap up

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Miklasz" is Czech for "Mariotti"

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow... What a poor piece of writing.

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

When all else fails

Blame it on the Cubs. Right. Why not just call the team out on their choke job? Sweeps happen in October. They even happen in the NLDS. Imagine that.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And we pass the blame on to Aaron...

Hey, Aaron for once you done good.

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

wow that is fucking low

best baseball town in American my ass.

by bheidge on Oct 9, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is that a surprise?

Those are the same jerks that booed the President at the All-Star Game.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All because he was from Chicago

pathetic, the entire fanbase

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

St. Louis can go get fucked

I will add them to my list of places to never spend a dollar of my money……..France…..Russian…….St. Louis

by bheidge on Oct 9, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not jerks, Morans

"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill

by vonde6 on Oct 9, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

and even worse...

those morans booed Ted Lilly!

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Oct 9, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep " white towels' quote is real

Scroll down a bit.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/7814EBF67D15291B8625764A000A41DA?OpenDocument

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Oct 8, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh lord

the excuse making from that town is unreal.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 8, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was getting on the elevator in my building on Wednesday and I was wearing my Cubs shirt

A woman steps onto the elevator wearing a Cardinals cap. She looked down her nose at me and said, “Oh…Cubs.” Then I said, “Yep. Till the day I die.” Gotta love those two losses. I haven’t run into her since then.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll be wearing Jim Edmonds Cubs jersey shirt tomorrow

it will be a subtle dig, but it will be fun. All the shit I took the last two years, we are one Dodger win away from revenge time

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll be at Tiger Stadium on Saturday to watch the LSU-UF game

So I won’t be able to observe the end of this collapse. I’d hate to miss it, but if LSU wins and St. Louis loses on the same night, I think I’d lose my mind.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I had that setting up tonight

One of two isn’t bad I guess.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, wait. Tiger Stadium was torn down.

Oh, you mean the OTHER “Tiger Stadium”…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 5:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

Death Valley

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like he takes after his coach

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if that's the case

it’s a good thing he’s in the national league. The metrodome would give him fits.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Oct 9, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Angels win

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm now going to enjoy the Cardinals @ Dodgers while I do some programming.

Or is enjoying tonight’s game nasty, low down and mean? The MLB-AM audio Archives are cool, sometimes.

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 8, 2009 11:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This quote makes my life worthwhile:

Here.

we mortgaged the future to trade for derosa and holliday to bounced out in the nlds in 3

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Oct 8, 2009 11:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Welcome to the club

They’ll likely run both out of town now.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they dont really care for Bob Brenly over at the Cards blog

nothing on Bob though, they were seriously bitching about him calling a slider a fastball and him calling a pitch right down the middle when actually it was high and inside but still a strike.

by bheidge on Oct 9, 2009 12:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh right

Because everything the Cardinals touch or is associated with the Cardinals is so perfect right?

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right, kinda like McCarver's call that St Louis never boo's opposing players

then at the freakin all-star game of all places Ted Lilly gets introduced and……BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by bheidge on Oct 9, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

And Lilly got a laugh out of it. See above where I mention that the President was booed.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They probably all voted for the other guy. They do know what voting is, I hope?

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holy shit! There was an other guy running?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

I actually voted for McCain. Oh well.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Running, as in ran away?

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They know

Unfortunately, they don’t know how to respect the office.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they thought they were making a political statement, then they were very mistaken.

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are you equating booing the president with booing Ted Lilly?

One is dangerous and men in black suits will pay you a visit…the other will most likely just get your wife pregnant and your ankles broken.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Never once equated it

Just stating how classless the fans are up there.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which is which?

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Oct 9, 2009 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea thanks for the memories

I could never fathom booing a president…….especially at a baseball game

by bheidge on Oct 9, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It will be interesting to see how

the Cardinals play after a loss like this..

by bheidge on Oct 9, 2009 12:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

mlb.com just went down... :-(

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 1:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Was it good for you?

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It came back up after 3 or 4 minutes - a Kwik-E?

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It was obviously necessary

Your turn, now.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And it provided my PSDS with some relief

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

iPhone (Brand New) BCB Test...

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Oct 9, 2009 5:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I think it works

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

There's no crying in baseball...

Except in St. Louis:

“He lost the ball in the 50,000 white towels shaking in front of his face,” starting pitcher and would-be hero Adam Wainwright said. "It doesn’t seem really fair that an opposing team should be allowed to shake white towels when there’s a white baseball flying through the air. "

Wah, friggin’, wah.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 8:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

And, according to...

… this post on a Dodger blog, no one was waving white towels at the time.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 9, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know, I normally don't take pleasure in stuff like this

The problem is that Cardinal fans have been giving us hell for being swept in two consecutive seasons in the NLDS. It is the Cards, so that makes it sweeter to watch. It’s also sweet to watch and ask, “Not so easy, is it?”

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Indeed. Though, the Dodgers haven't won anything yet.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is very true

I hope the Dodgers sweep because then Cards fans will hang the, “At least we won a playoff game,” over us.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but that's pretty limp if that's the best you can come up with as something to lord over someone else.

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I saw that crap last season

I don’t put it past anyone, to be honest.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I guess you just have to consider the "cardinal" source...

Or is it “Cardinal Offense”?

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is true

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I looked at the MLB.TV video Al, and there doesn't seem to be any massive towel waving until AFTER he drops the ball.

Granted the camera angles shown don’t give us Holiday’s line of sight, but the crowd seemed to be cheering (sure) but not waving anything before the drop. And logic would also support that.

2 outs. The batter lifts – what for all intents and purposes is – a sure 3rd out flyball. If I were in the crowd, I wouldn’t be waiving anything at that moment. I’d be frozen staring at the play unfold.

At least, that how I see it…

"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)

Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...

by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's what I saw, too.

So Wainwright was way off base.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Oct 9, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Holliday just screwed up. Look at how long it took for us to come to grips with all the errors in Game 2 of the 2008 NLDS. It freakin sucks, but it happens.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some of us still aren't there, yet...

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs