Cardinals Get What They Deserve: MLB Division Series Day 3 Preview, Friday 10/9
With no afternoon games today, I was going to wait and have today's Division Series preview post in the middle of the afternoon, a couple of hours before the Yankees and Twins take the field in New York at 5 pm CDT.
But then I saw (thanks to Jessica for posting it in last night's game thread) this astonishingly bad piece of "journalism" from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch's Bernie Miklasz, and I thought I'd get it posted right on the front page for you to see this morning. That's right, friends, it wasn't really Matt Holliday dropping a potentially game-ending fly ball in Dodger Stadium yesterday. No, it was all the Cubs' fault:
This October, the Dodgers have a chance to sweep the Cardinals, who have inexplicably turned into the Cubs, right before your disbelieving eyes. And that was unpredictable.
Do not adjust your HD TV sets at home, and do not throw any hard objects at those television screens: These aren't really the Cubs; they only look like it. They are the Cardinals, striking out and dropping balls and loitering on the bases and blowing saves and going all Leon Durham '84 on us in an epic meltdown.
Click here to see my reaction to this tripe. This is a man who has been paid (presumably) big money to write about sports for the biggest newspaper in St. Louis for 20 years, since 1989. And this is the best he can come up with when his team pulls an epic choke job? Take a swipe at the Cubs? No wonder newspapers and "traditional" journalists are vanishing from the face of the Earth so quickly.
I guess about the best thing you can say about something like that is that he was pandering to his audience. As for me, all I'll say to Cardinals fans is: "Welcome to the club. Now you know how it feels. Enjoy going home after Saturday's game."
Also, though the Angels beat the Red Sox 5-0 last night, the first postseason shutout in Angels history, I wonder how Angels fans feel having the play-by-play man on TBS for that series be the principal play-by-play guy for their opponent. Don Orsillo did his best to be neutral last night -- and he's probably the best of the four PBP guys doing the Division Series -- but he's the main PBP man on NESN for the Red Sox during the season. How did they make that selection?
The NL has the day off today; links for both AL series tonight after the jump.
Twins at Yankees, 5 pm CDT. TV: TBS. Announcers: Chip Caray and Ron Darling
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Twins site Twinkie Town and Yankees site Pinstripe Alley.
Red Sox at Angels, 8:30 pm CDT. TV: TBS. Announcers: Don Orsillo and Buck Martinez
Baseball-reference.com game preview
Please visit our SB Nation Red Sox site Over The Monster and Angels site Halos Heaven.
Yesterday's thread didn't get too long, so once again I'm not going to post overflow threads today; if this one gets too long or slow by the second game, someone please post an overflow in the FanShot section.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Thanks Al...
…for posting the link the the Dispatch article. What a sad fact that even when the Cubs have nothing to do with the playoffs they’re still the topic of conversation. It’ll probably only get worse after they get swept by the Dodgers. I’m sure there will be some nice “just trying to be the Cubs” comments floating around.
Oh well. Here’s hoping the playoffs continue to entertain. It’s great to see exciting baseball. Even though it’s painful the Cubs aren’t in this year, it’s not all bad just getting to be a baseball fan.
by Tangled Up In Blue on Oct 9, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
It is fun being able to watch October baseball, even though the Cubs aren’t in it-just as a baseball fan. Let’s hope it continues to be exciting.
As for the Dispatch article, I won’t say anything that is going to be said countless times over in this thread, it is just sad that the author of this article stooped down so low as to say such a thing.
"Brant Brown...DROPS THE BALL!!!!"
by cubswgnrocks on Oct 9, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully baseball is still around
I’m having a fun time watching the meltdown today by Cardinals fans. Football is too depressing to think about.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 11:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Holliday and Franklin both deserve the blame for that debacle
It wasn’t the Cubs that caused Franklin to melt down after Holliday committed the error.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice avatar
And Franklin was obviously doing his best Aaron Heilman impersonation out there…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should all change our profile pics to that one
[and go troll on VEB].
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This article alone is enough for them to justify that we are obsessed with the Cards
No need to further that impression.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+2006
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 9, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holiday accounted for half their runs.....
He’s a 3 time all star and a great athlete…….if they don’t want him anymore….I’ll take him over sorryano or gameboard any day…..
As for the article…..I thought I was watching the 09 CUB offense all game long….especially game 1….talk about RISP/LOB……….That was a complete offensive meltdown (over both games) by the DT’s…….and I have to admit…I kinda enjoyed it….
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Third game?
The copy-and-paste monster strikes again…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
In Bernie Miklasz's defense,
Chicago journalists also take potshots at the Cubs whenever they can. Wait, what? Now I’ve made myself sad.
As the owner of very expensive J-School education, I could go on and on about the state of the industry, the level of writing and reporting and the severe abuse my intelligence has taken lately, but I doubt I’ll have the time to write 12,432 words this morning.
Go Twins this evening.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Case in point:
PWSullivan If they can shoot a rocket into the moon, why can’t the Cubs figure out a way to win a championship?
I hate this moron. Soon enough I’ll start a boycott campaign and I hope you all join me.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PWSullivan?
Who is this PWSullivan you speak of?
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
No Brant Brown reference???
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
by eswan9 on Oct 9, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Man....... I was at that game
didn’t Sosa hit 63 and 64 that game?
FIRE VDN
by gocubs526 on Oct 9, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
typical
I know several Cardinal fans and all seem to be obsessed with the Cubs. Don’t really know why. There is very little we can throw at them, since they have had all the success & we’ve had all the failure. I think they like having a “rivalry” with a team that really poses no threat to their “superiority”. I sense that if we ever win it all, they will all have massive cardiacs.
"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields
by KedzieKid on Oct 9, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No, they'll just say "What took you so long?" or "Good for you! You got your 1 for this century!"
or something dumb like that.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And sadly,
they’d be right.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 9, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At that point, however,
I expect none of us will really give a damn.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who really gives a damn what they say NOW?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda doubt any of will be sober enough to care
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday is getting tons of flack for missing that liner.....which he should have caught
…but the reality is Franklin still could have got it done. BTW, what happend to the great Albert? 1-7 with no RBIs.
I knew last night we would hear all kinds stuff about the Cardinals looking “Cub like”. Bernie is the St Louis version of Jay Marroitti. For the most part, real journalism today from a print perspective can really only been seen in the WSJ, NYT and the Wash Post, most tossed their ethics out a long time ago.
by JB 23 on Oct 9, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Albert is the new ARod
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday is the new Bartman.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 9, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday is the new Alex Gonzalez
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holiday is the new linebacker for the Rams. He looks stiff like a block of cement.
by Grockcubs on Oct 9, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Tebow is the new Jesus Christ.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 9, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
right again, sir. you obviously know a few yourself.
"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields
by KedzieKid on Oct 9, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bernie in St. Loo
looks like he’s been busy feeding his face the past 20 years or so. I doubt he could catch a fly ball if his life depended upon it.
by Clark Addison on Oct 9, 2009 11:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone catch Wainwrong's interview on MLB.TV?
This douche bag had the nerve to blame the WHITE TOWELS WAVING IN THE CROWD as the reason why Holliday missed the ball.
Good lawd……..how do you come up with that?!?!
Bunch of crybabies. I’m sure this will cause Bernie to eat a few more cream puffs, adding to his already bloated body (and ego).
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
by tville on Oct 9, 2009 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if they give out white towels at the game on Saturday
Even if they were it is kind of hard to do it now since their dumbass pitcher opened his mouth.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Wainwright's claim is a lie.
Look below for a link to the video. NO ONE WAS WAVING WHITE TOWELS when that ball was hit.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your facts are getting in the way of the excuse train
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a fool for making the comment.
Suspect he’ll be calling for a ban of white shirts in the crowd as well.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
by tville on Oct 9, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling he was trying to protect Holliday
He didn’t do it well, but I’m not sure Wainwright is really crying over spilled milk as much as he is trying to deflect attention off the gaffe. In any case, it’s done poorly on his part.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Trey2317 on Oct 9, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we use the white towels excuse, too?
I got one at the playoff game at Dodger stadium last year. When I got back to work, I gave it to a Dodger fan friend on the condition that we not talk about the game or the playoffs. It worked as good as a sock.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Oct 9, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is fascinating
All the kvetching over a columnist who has made a career out of taking potshots at the Cubs.
People are taking shots at the Cardinals, fans and writers and saying that they are obsessed with the Cubs, taking glee in the Cardinals losing and making fat jokes about the writer.
As Clutch16 implied above, who’s obsessed with who?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 9, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I'll say this
Up until 4 years ago I didn’t give a crap about the Cardinals, now having been exposed to their fanbase and dealing with daily Cubs stuff I can say I do hate them. I love watching them fail and I love laughing at their excuse making BS.
So yes I do care about the Cardinals and enjoy watching them lose, if (or when) I say otherwise I’m lying. Still they are in the middle of the playoffs and still thinking about the Cubs, something I can say I didn’t do about them the past two postseasons.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+2003
When the Cubs blew 2003 (for example), I don’t recall reading in the Tribune that it was all the Cardinals’ fault.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 9, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where does the STL article say it's the Cubs' FAULT?
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 9, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
‘Fault’ means the Cubs caused it. Of all the righteous criticisms you can give this article, that is not one of them. I do not think you are suggesting a false accusation here, but you could have worded it better.
by NWIowaCubFan on Oct 9, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'd say it's different for those of us in the STL vicinity
Just like I have a special dislike for the team that plays up the road from where I grew up, because a vocal minority of their “fan base” roots against the Cubs more than for their own team.
I’m not saying people should root for the Cards, but no matter what happens, the Cubs ain’t moving up in 2009.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 9, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
I know no other fan base that spends more time, money and energy HATING the Cubs as do Cards fans. One in every three shirts during a Cubs series at Busch is painted with anti-Cubs comments. They have serious problems, and when you go to a Hawks/Blues game, they want to talk baseball?
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
by tville on Oct 9, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me introduce you to a few White Sox fans I know.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 9, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Brewer fans.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear what you are saying, but...........
………..it’s not even close.
Brewers and Sux fans pull the same stuff, but Cards fans have entire wardrobes to show their hatred of the Cubs. It’s a cottage industry in St. Loser.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
by tville on Oct 9, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmmm....
San Diego Padres fans, for the last 25 years…
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 9, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. I can personally attest to the last 15 of those.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're comparing major league............
………..douche bags (STL) to minor league douche bags (SAN).
Seriously, it’s not close.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
by tville on Oct 9, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, NJI and myself have lived in the center of Cardinals nation.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but I went to Mizzou, which is much more heavily populated with STL fans than people from Kansas City. Columbia is smack in the middle of the state, but it seems more from KC go to Kansas for school cause it is so close by.
In any event. . . the amount of Cubs-bashing, snide remarks, and other general grief you get for being a Cubs fan in Missouri is pretty ridiculous. Now I will grant that perhaps many of the college students I encountered don’t have the maturity to do much but name-calling at this stage in their lives. But I can say that the sense of arrogance, entitlement, and boorishness in the Cards fans I knew and encountered went up exponentially after 2006.
So I agree with NJI and Al. I hope desperately to see St. Louis lose on Saturday. I hope they get to feel some embarrassment about it, just like they made any Cubs fan within earshot feel for the last two seasons. Only then will there be a chance for them to head back down to Earth and stop living vicariously through one charmed season.
by TheNextCubsVoice on Oct 9, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what.
I went to college at NIU and I got the same shit you did at Mizzou so to even act like one place is better than the other or worse than the other is ridiculous. You are an outsider (a fan of the team’s number 1 rival). You better expect to get it from college kids. If you’re offended by that than it’s probably you who have the thin skin. I knew going to NIU, I’d be completely surrounded by cub fans. I met some Card fans and we had a good time giving it back to the cubs fans just like they gave it to us. Some were good natured about it, some weren’t. That’s the way it goes.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 9, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did spending time there make you hate the cubs more than before you went?
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes it did.
Growing up in Southern Illinois, I was always indifferent to the cubs. My grandpa, while being a Cardinal fan, always rooted for the cubs too since he loved Harry Caray (I remember watching the Cubs/Pads series in ’84 with him). And, while the cards are the number 1 team down there, there are cub fans too. A couple of my best friends in HS were cub fans since their dads and grandpas were cub fans.
Once I came to NIU (and now the suburbs) my indifference went away. Look, I’m a staunch cardinal fan, make no mistake about it. But there’s something about being surrounded by rabid fans of your rival that 1) increases your dislike of that team and 2) makes you much more sensitive to the fringe of the fanbase.
It’s like any political thing or whatever. The fringe lunatics are always the loudest. That’s why it always makes my skin crawl when i hear some cardinal fan boast about how card fans are the smartest fans in the world. They usually cite some ‘poll’ or some ‘interview’ that never really existed and if it did, it’s not accurate. Or they quote Cardinal players. Shit, ask Ranger players and they’ll say the same thing publicly about how great and loyal and smart Ranger fans are. it’s lip service.
You guys don’t hear the numbnuts that are some cub fans. Well, maybe you do, but you’re much more sensitive to the numbnut cardinal fans since you can be offended by them and they seem like the majority since they’re loud. While you can dismiss the stupid cub fans because you know that most cub fans don’t think that way.
it’s like the idiots at Wrigley that were throwing trash on the field or the ones who wear the Fukudome shirts or run onto the field to attack Bob Howry or Randy Meyers or the Dodgers bullpen. Are these fringe lunatics? Yup. You know it and I do. But they’re easy to spot since they’re either loud or in the spotlight.
Sorry for the rambling stream of thoughts……
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think every fanbase has its "numbnuts" fans.
You may be more sensitive to Cubs fans because of the intensity of the rivalry. Me, I’ve run into a lot of cool Cardinals fans that I think enhance that rivalry and with whom I enjoy discussing baseball.
But there are plenty of Cardinals fans who fit your profile of Cubs fans, too.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 10, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Two days late, but that's pretty much what Tackle Box said
And you kind of proved his/her point by being a little sensitive to it….
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 12, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was one of them named Mike?
Just askin’
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No "Mike" was too busy playing baseball
while secretly managing the NIU team to have any social interaction.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 9, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To play Devil's Advocate
The Cards are still playing, while the Cubs are not. If we ignore all the other teams, then the only real “news” is the Bradley-for-Burrell rumor that’s floating about. I think talking about the Cards loss (even with a little schadenfreude thrown in) isn’t out of bounds. Going over to VEB and taunting, OTOH…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's out of bounds, either, but
It’s a bit disingenous to say that they’re obsessed with us over and over.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 9, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could talk about the other two boring-ass games yesterday instead, if you want :P
The Dodgers-Cards game was entertaining, at least.
Come 5PM, I doubt any of us will still be thinking about Holliday and Franklin, though. Let it run its course, and we’ll debate the meta later.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give you that
Come 5PM, I doubt any of us will still be thinking about Holliday and Franklin, though
I doubt that it’ll be brought up here as often as other fan bases bring up goats, cats, etc.
Anyway, my sports focus for the first 1/2 of this weekend will be UW-OSU.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 9, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GO TAUNT.....
And grow a thick skin…..
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1
We are paying attention because they are still playing, and we have noticed some personal insults. I don’t see the signs of a general obsession on our part.
I am not the type to rub it in, and would only file this failure away in my arsenal for future, purely defensive, purposes. I agree, in general, with your comments on the game thread about not taking joy at anyone else’s misery. However, I admit that “misery loves company”, and I am glad to see that the Cardinals are not always as lucky as they sometimes seem to be (re: the 2006 playoffs).
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Oct 9, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's significant
that MLB chose to use Vin Scully’s call of last night’s ninth inning. Amazing.
Witty .sig goes here.
by scareduck on Oct 9, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I've watched that a couple of times in the past few hours. Pretty amazing.
Baseball is funny sometimes. I still feel sorry for Holliday, but I’m not crying for the Cardinals.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 9, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scully is awesome
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by MrNFL on Oct 9, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was all Dick Stockton's fault
as TBS clearly HATES the NL Central.
They’ve stuck the division with his presence for all 3 years they’ve broadcast the division series.
The NL Central hasn’t won a game that Stockton has broadcast in the division series for TBS!
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Oct 9, 2009 11:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm.
I think you’re on to something here.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a conspiracy from high up
Someone needs to investigate this. Then we can deal with this strange white towel phenomenon.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The white towels landed in Roswell in 1948, but the Air Force covered them up...
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of towels...

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a fairy nice towel

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not suppose to be journalism
Bernie is a columnist, not a reporter and its all in good fun. if the situation were reversed we would be taking chots at the cards, hell, we are anyway. its still the best rivalry in baseball. All the passion of yanks/sox without as much meaness and blind hatred. I have to say, i felt bad for Holiday, having lost a few in the lights myself. He seems like a class act.
Lets Play Two Today
by RTGrules on Oct 9, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No, we wouldn't be taking shots at the Cardinals.
We’d completely ignore them.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no more hopeless feeling
I was playing third base in a HS All Star game and ran after a pop up in foul territory. We always played day games, but this one was at night. I looked down for a second to see how close I was to the fence and just then a photographer standing about 6 feet away from me popped his flashbulb. When I looked up, instead of seeing one ball I saw 200 spots of light, that all looked like a ball. Fortunately, I was able to discern that one of the balls was starting to get larger, otherwise it likely would have hit me right on top of my head.
by azjazzman on Oct 9, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 19 recs
I'm sorry
I hate to keep bringing up this point however Holiday has gotten huge. Goodness the guy can’t find a cap for his head.
by Grockcubs on Oct 9, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schadenfreude ist die schönste Freude
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The downtrodden masses approve...
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Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The revolutionary masses approve as well..

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a Cardinals Fan, I Believe it's My Duty to Inform You...
that Bernie Miklasz is a moron.
by mynameistyler on Oct 9, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So the Mariotti comparison works?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miklasz is like Mariotti...
only in that he’s an arrogant prick. Mariotti has shown strokes of intelligence on the rare occasion on ATH.
by mynameistyler on Oct 9, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al. It's misleading to say anyone claimed it was the Cubs' "fault."
The guy simply said the Cards were playing like the Cubs do when they get to the postseason. Unfortunately, the Cubs have given Cardinal fans plenty of ammunition in their hapless trips to the playoffs. In fact, I can’t think of another team that personifies October meltdowns like our beloved team.
That said, it sure is fun to watch the Cards’ meltdown. The picture is great. I heard Holiday insisting after the game that the ball hit him in the stomach. Someone should tell him that wrinkly thing hanging between his legs doesn’t digest food.
by the nth on Oct 9, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The Braves would like a word
14 straight division titles, one WS win.
The question every year after 1996 was “How are they going to choke it away this year?”
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
However, they did make it to a few World Series and there was that one pesky little championship.
by the nth on Oct 9, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The championship came in the first year of the wild card
After that, they made it back only once (1996), and thereafter struggled to get past the NLDS (much to our delight in 2003).
And that one championship came on try #4 for them. By those standards, and if you want to count 2003 as a part of the Cubs’ current run, we’re due the next time we make it in.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and the 1994 Expos would like a word
actually, they’d probably like a few words with Bud Lite – preferably out in a dark alley somewhere with no witnesses…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actaully, if they sold tickets....
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how far did they get in the playoffs that year?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my point exactly
there were no playoffs that year, as you well know, thanks to (Don) Fehr and (Bud) Loathing.
And while you are technically correct in your “14 straight division titles” wording, I always feel obligated to give props to the Expos for their effort in 1994 lest anyone think Atlanta won their division 14 years in a row.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they did
Every year a division title was awarded from 1991 until 2005, the Braves won that title. And 1994 wasn’t a lock for the Expos, anyway – the Braves were only 6 games behind them when the strike wiped out the rest of the season on August 12, and had been tied for the division lead as late as July 21. I don’t think anyone has tracked Magic Numbers as high as 43 since 1969.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always a catch
You said:
lest anyone think Atlanta won their division 14 years in a row
You are correct there. They did not win it in 1994, but then again, no one else did, either.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen a front page post on VEB directed completely at the Cubs and their failures...
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 9, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is a patently untrue accusation
There’s a whole paragraph there about the Angels…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They actually locked up the overflow thread over there.
Lots of swearing in that thread.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beter yet is the reason given
Can’t take our eyes off you all for one minute. The last thread was locked because it was out of hand.
Translation: You are not old enough to behave yourselves and be alone without a babysitter… ;-)
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's just great.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me, that thread is still open and available for all to read.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The entire quote is:
Well that last thread got out of hand overflow
Can’t take our eyes off you all for one minute. The last thread was locked because it was out of hand. Please read the community guidelines if you’re new. They’ll help prevent you from getting banned. A couple take aways:
1) Excessive and tasteless profanity isn’t welcome.
2) Obscene imagery or the written description of body parts is frowned upon
3) No personal attacks
4) Talk about the game in an emotional or rational fashion. Either way is fine. That was a gut wrenching loss but express yourself in a way that is either constructive or relatable without breaking the community guidelines.
There’s a lot of new faces and that’s great but just because they are game threads and it’s the postseason you aren’t allowed to act like this is a free for all.
This, afaik, is the “locked for comments” thread: http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/10/8/1077278/gotta-be-kidding-overflow
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it is.
Just paged to the bottom of it. It already reads “Comments for this post are closed.”
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
44 minutes
And 350+ comments later…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At some point, someone is going to copy/paste that thread.
Wonder what people will think of the self-proclaimed “Best Fans in Baseball”
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a couple of paragraphs
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Interesting stuff. Thanks for the link. Who woulda thought?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 9, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they ain't gracious
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 9, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, one paragraph and a couple of lines
about being happy that the Cardinals are the last NL Central team to win a World Series compares to an entire article about how the Cardinals “deserved” to lose because a moron sportswriter (who doens’t work for the Cardinals) wrote a stupid colum?
Note that wasn’t about the Cubs specifically. It was about the Cubs and the Brewers. It didn’t matter what teams were in the playoffs. If it had been the Reds and the Pirates, it still would have been written.
Hardly comparable.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 9, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we are going to get all hot around our collars:
That twit is pandering for some real fans for a second rate organization…
The kindest reason one can come up with for Miklasz’s delineated diarrhoea?
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reading through the comments on Halos Heaven,
I did find this one regarding the announcing last night.
It’s NOT OK. It was gonna be hard enough listening to a team that knows next to nothing about baseball and is pre-disposed to pull for the Sox. But having THEIR announcers call the game? Disgusting. I HATE the media. #34 Forever
Plugging the upside since 2006.
Never give up, never surrender!
by TheOptimist on Oct 8, 2009 8:24 PM EDT
This is worse than making Joe Buck and Tim McCarver work Cubs/Cardinals games.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 12:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think...
… the postseason would be best served by having each game announced by one announcer from each of the participating teams. They used to have one of these during the 1960’s — it was good to hear a home team announcer.
Doing it that way now would get a perspective that the national announcer simply does not have.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That makes sense.
That way, you get the perspective of both teams from the announcers’ booth. Makes no sense to have Don Orsillo do a Red Sox game. It would have been better if he had been doing the Cardinals-Dodgers game (same city, right?).
Orsillo’s normal NESN partner, Jerry Remy, has been out with cancer this year (he should be back next year in the booth). He is definitely more pro-Red Sox.
Unlike most announcers, Remy has had his share of funny moments in the booth, like this moment in 2007.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listening to that game...
as commented upon by a team of Vin Scully and Mike Shannon would be both awesome and utterly confusing.
by mynameistyler on Oct 9, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the postseason would be best served by leaving TBS out of it
Seriously – I have not heard one positive word about their efforts so far this year. And IIRC they blew chunks pretty bad last year as well. I didn’t watch their regular season games, so for those who did – did they do an acceptable job and thus just choke in the playoffs? Or do they suck in the regular season as well.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They suck all around
Their staff is pretty much the same people who produced Braves baseball exclusively for a couple of decades, and as such, the production is very similar to old Braves games on TBS. I never was all that impressed with those broadcasts, especially when I had Arne Harris’s games to which to compare them.
And in case you’re wondering, the quality of the Braves broadcasts now is just a notch worse now that it’s Peachtree TV people producing them.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"to which to compare them"?
Sheesh, my editing skills are teh suck.
“…with which to compare them.”
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like "Groundhog Day"
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Oct 9, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
definatly no cup
I can’t believe he got up. I would have been on the ground puking for 10 minutes.
FIRE VDN
by gocubs526 on Oct 9, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You wonder if he will be out of the next game for a bruised scrotum (and ego)
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 9, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you must have a big hard drive
(for all those photos)
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not really

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was stunning to watch last night
Two guys who have been so clutch and almost automatic for the Cardinals falling apart at the same time was strange to watch. I know they only blew a one-run lead but it seemed much worse.
I had to go over to VEB and check out the threads. It was worth it.
by Mapmaker on Oct 9, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Learn to Read, Al
Miklasz didn’t say that it was the Cubs’ fault that the Cardinals lost last night’s game. Rather, he said that they had “turned into the Cubs” and were playing like the Cubs. And he’s right.
Think about what happened to Holliday and the Cardinals last night. One out from a victory that would send the series back home tied 1-1, Holliday, who had made one error since joining the Cardinals, inexplicably loses the ball in the lights and a comedy of errors follow, resulting in them losing the game. As a long time Cubs fan, you cannot tell me that you don’t see parallels between catastrophic errors made by otherwise sure-handed defenders Leon Durham and Alex Gonzalez and by former Cub Bill Buckner.
Last night’s Cardinals loss was practically the definition of “Cub-like”. Re-read Miklasz’s column, and you’ll see that I’m correct.
by Lance on Oct 9, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So when you win...it's Yankee like?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again...
Bernie Miklasz is a moron.
by mynameistyler on Oct 9, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you missed the point
of course we all know this is something that would happen to the Cubs. But it didn’t, it happened to the St. Louis Cardinals and has nothing to do with the Cubs. Its patethic journalism. “Well we just blew the game….CUBS SUCK HAHA!” That is how the article comes off to probably must if not all Cub fans.
by TJ3117 on Oct 9, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's because you're looking for a reason to be offended
But seriously, as a Cubs fan, you have to admit that this is the sort of crushing “seize defeat from the jaws of victory” loss upon which the Cubs’ reputation has been built. You’ve watched Durham miss the ground ball in 1984. You watched the Alex Gonzalez error and Prior meltdown following the Bartman incident in 2003.
If you’re a longtime Cubs fan, you’re almost conditioned to expect the sort of loss that the Cardinals suffered last night. As a Cardinals fan, I’m used to my team winning those games.
by Lance on Oct 9, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kilgore: Smell that? You smell that?
Lance: What?
Kilgore: Schadenfreude, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.
[kneels]
Kilgore: I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning. You know, one time we had a 2-1 lead going, all the way to the 9th. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn’t find one of ‘em, not one smug Card fan. The smell, you know that humiliation smell, the whole hill. Smelled like
[sniffing, pondering]
Kilgore: victory. Someday this war’s gonna end…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This post
Is enough to explain why so many Cubs fans are so happy with the meltdown yesterday.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Oct 9, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ignore the troll
“I’m a Cardinals fan, I’m used to winning those games” blah blah. Like when they guaranteed that series win against the Braves back in the mid 90’s. And then lost 3 games in a row to blow a 3-1 series lead. No team is immune. But excuse me for questioning one of the best fans in baseball. Morans!
by LT on Oct 9, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why "inexplicably" lost in the lights?
I have watched games at Dodger Stadium for 40 years. I have seen dozens of soft hump backed line drives get lost in the lights there. It is because of the way the upper deck is configured, combined with the night time glare.
by azjazzman on Oct 9, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.....quit blaming Holiday....
BUT….the total team meltdown was completely ENJOYABLE……..
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't let facts get in the way.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 9, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which facts do you think that I'm ignoring?
by Lance on Oct 9, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
omg
I was agreeing with you….
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 9, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't find the columnist's remarks upsetting as a Cubs fan.
I have watched both games and I commented at home last night that some of St. Louis’ play reminds me of the Cubs in 2007-2008. It was more a reaction/remark in disbelief and not intended as a continued slam of the Cubs. I just took this as the columnist trying to make his point to St. Louis fans as strongly as possible, and in St. Louis that must mean association with the Cubs. Someone might do the same in a story targeted for Sox fans.
by DudeVf11 on Oct 9, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To quote Flounder from Animal house
“Oh boy is this great!” I thoroughly enjoyed watching them choke away that game. I currently have Matt Holliday missing that ball as the background image on my computer. I was almost half tempted to call that st.louis fan bar in Chicago and ask if they’ll have enough champagne on ice for the Dodgers celebration on Saturday night. Now they know how it feels. As for that journalist, well I shouldn’t even give him that distinction because it’d be an insult to me considering I’m an up and coming journalist myself. What a mook. Talk about inferiority complex down in Stl. It’s like they won’t admit they suck because they are too up their own asses so whats the next best thing lets take cheap shots at the Cubs. Way to stay classy St. Louis.
Someday we'll go all the way.
by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Oct 9, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What St. Louis bar?
This exists? I mean we have people from all over and every bar seems to cater to a niche but I have not heard of a St. Louis bar.
by IllinoisCubs on Oct 9, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh it exists
Unfortunately. Its called Sedgwicks. I would’ve loved,loved,loved to have been in that bar when they blew it.
Someday we'll go all the way.
by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Oct 9, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did not realize Sedgwick's was a Cards bar
1935 N. Sedgwicks, Chicago IL 312.337.7900 sedgwicks1@aol.com
For anyone who wants to ask about champagne on ice for game 3
by IllinoisCubs on Oct 9, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS IS AN AWESOME RESPONSE!!
To what is likely the clientele at a StLu bar!
EXCELLENT!
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
by tville on Oct 9, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a pretty wide brush you're painting with.
…..It’s like they won’t admit they suck because they are too up their own asses so whats the next best thing lets take cheap shots at the Cubs. Way to stay classy St. Louis.
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You say you’re an “up and coming journalist”, eh? Statements like that will certainly distinguish you and set you apart from Bernie, won’t they? I can see how you will be far more “classy.” Thinking about “asking if they’ll have enough champagne on ice……” now that’s REAL classy.
It sounds like you can’t really separate Bernie from the fans. You say “what a mook”. then, with no start of new paragraph, you say “Talk about inferiority complex down in Stl. It’s like THEY won’t admit THEY suck because THEY are too up THEIR own asses so whats the next best thing LETS take cheap shots at the Cubs. Way to stay classy St. Louis”
If you really want to be an “up and coming journalist” you should learn to use some punctuation. That last sentence is seriously flawed. And who are the “they” you’re talking about? It was Bernie (not the fans) that took a cheap shot at the Cubs, (and it WAS a cheap shot and tasteless), much like your cheap shot at St Louis and the fans because of what Bernie said.
and I’m still trying to digest……..“almost half tempted….”
Your comment sounds like something a high school kid would say.
I don’t mean this as a cheap shot (it’s not my style) but, you really aren’t in a very good position to accuse St. Louis of having an inferiority complex. That’s sort of like Madonna telling me I have questionable morals.
Baseball first, teams second, players third, agents last.
by Dave Pendleton on Oct 10, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is that an inferiority complex?
i think you don’t know what it means
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 10, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's so perplexing to me is..
How the the dodgers can play so badly the end of the year, nearly giving away the division to the rockies, but yet once the calendar turns to October and the playoffs begin, they become this unstoppable force, especially in the division series……
by nmcubsfan on Oct 9, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two words.
Joe Torre.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I've been recently thinking....he really is a very, very good manager.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 9, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you paid a little closer attention
you would’ve noticed that while the Dodgers did not play particularly well down the stretch, whenever their lead was threatened, they won the important games that they had to win.
Also note that the Cardinals didn’t play particularly well down the stretch, either.
And it’s not like the Dodgers have dominated. They won Game 1 by two runs, and by all rights, should have lost Game 2.
by azjazzman on Oct 9, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but.....
what shoulda happened didn’t, and now they’re up 2-0 and looking at moving on to the phillies/rockies……you don’t have to dominate to win, just win. And that’s what they seem to do come october
by nmcubsfan on Oct 9, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
SEE 2006 CARDINALS
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really found nothing wrong with the article
The Cards are acting like last years Cubs.
It was an amusing take on the situation.
by Arbusto on Oct 9, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was a silly take.
Can’t think of anything else, so bash the Cubs. How original.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could of at least thrown in an "Ow! My Balls!" reference.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vin Scully's: Talk about a painful error
is better then “Ow! My Gonads”
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better than
bashing your balls. oh wait they already did that. ZING
by TJ3117 on Oct 9, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Cards are hitting like the 09 CUBS......
Throw all the other superstitious BS out
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I truly enjoyed
that 9th inning last night. Thank you Dodgers. Despite ruining my Fall last year, your 1 game away from making my Fall this year. Petty? Maybe, do I care, no!
Chicago Cubs baseball is on the air...
by slocs55 on Oct 9, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Deadspin even has a humorous take on the fun that we all had last night....
From here:
In the wake of Matt Holliday’s fateful decision to play James Loney’s soft liner off his testicles, Cardinals Nation expressed several sentiments unbecoming the best fans in baseball but at least cleared all five stages of grief.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 9, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
beautiful
I can’t wait to ride them soo hard next season especially if they get swept. Ah Christmas has come early for us Cubs fans.
Someday we'll go all the way.
by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Oct 9, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Christmas.....
But at least a small measure of consolation that the Dodgers are doing to them what they did to the cubs last year…….
by nmcubsfan on Oct 9, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
but needless to say watching them self emplode, puts a smile on my face and almost, but not completely makes up for this miserable season.
Someday we'll go all the way.
by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Oct 9, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could never make up for the miserable season
What it does make up for is the crap we got from their fans in 2007 and 2008.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very true
I still enjoyed it non the less.
Someday we'll go all the way.
by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Oct 9, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy there fellas
They still have to lose this series. God forbid they come back and win.
by Mapmaker on Oct 9, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just enjoying all the RISP/LOB.....
And I want Holiday in LF at wrigley next year….think StL will take Sorryano for him???
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
considering holliday is a free agent...
probably not
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 9, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This deadspin entry is a thing of beauty.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As was Matt Holliday's play last night.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There you go ...
Perfect example of what we Cubs fans deal with living in Southern Illinois. Not only the Cardinal fans, but their broadcasters, TV media, newspapers are all on this bandwagon. Constantly. Every time I hear “great fans in St. Louis” and “what a great rivalry” I throw up a little bit. Even Al says good things about the Cardinals SB Nation site … but I can find nothing good to say about anything Cardinals.
Ya gotta love a team with a shortstop named TheRiot ...
by StampMe on Oct 9, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Every time I hear of the "great fans in St. Louis"
(Which by the way comes mostly from Buck/McCarver), I am reminded of a Cubs/Cardinals game at Wrigley Field I went to in 2006. There were Cardinals fans about 5-10 rows behind me, and they gradually got more and more rowdy as the game went on (Cubs were winning).
When the Cardinals hit into a double play, I heard (paraphrase) “Gosh, darn it!”
After the game ended in a Cubs victory, they threw chewing gum at Cubs fans near them. I was targeted, but the gum went by my cousin’s wife.
Such great sportsmanship, especially at someone else’s ballpark.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First Mizzou, then the Cardinals.
What a great Thursday night.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 9, 2009 2:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al, I loved this part:
“Welcome to the club. Now you know how it feels. Enjoy going home after Saturday’s game.”
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
by StevenABQ on Oct 9, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It ain't over yet, gang.
So don’t dance on anybody’s grave, just yet.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 9, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
How about this?
I wait to dance until the Dodgers win on Saturday. Deal?
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But on their stage, there we can dance

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll enjoy dancing on either one of their graves.......
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now Cards fans in VEB are discussing the"ex-Cubs factor" as a reason for their loss:
I quote from an hour ago:
We have Mark DeRosa on our roster they have Juan Pierre and….just trying to figure who has the ‘less former Cubs’ advantage in this series.
Someone else on VEB mentioned that Wellemyer is still around too…and that enters into the ex-Cub factor.
Poor Cardinal fans. Can it be that your team just choked, and it has nothing to do with the Chicago National League Ballclub?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
by zevkalman on Oct 9, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NO ITS BOB BRENLYS FAULT
ITS DEROSAS FAULT
CCCCCUUUUUUUUUBBBSSSS
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 9, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just choking, now that might be their Cardinal Sin.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to do it myself so maybe someone can help,
but how did we collectively react last year after game 2? Just to draw parallels and come up with a functioning sociological theory.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we had mostly given up, as I recall.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember thinking "Oh dear god, not again"
and this from a staunch atheist.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe for a second that YOU gave up at that point Al.
Not with 3 games left. I know I was still hoping.
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Oct 9, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I distinctly remember
Al’s Game Day post being a typical listing of reasons why the Cubs could go into LA and win two and then win Game 5 in Chicago. It started with the fact that the Cubs still hadn’t pitched Lilly yet.
But, this situation is quite a bit different…the Cubs had to go into Dodger Stadium and win two games just to get it back to Chicago for a Game 5…and they had been pretty thoroughly dominated in the first two games.
The Cardinals have been competitive in two games in LA, should have won Game 2, and now they get to play two in St, Louis. They may not get it to a Game 5 in LA, but I’ve got to like their chances better than the Cubs last year.
by azjazzman on Oct 9, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wellemeyer isn't on the Cardinals' NLDS roster.
So each team has only one.
Other ex-Cubs in the Division Series:
Boston: Joey Gathright
NY Yankees: Chad Gaudin, Jerry Hairston Jr.
LA Angels: Gary Matthews Jr.
Philadelphia: Scott Eyre, Paul Bako, Matt Stairs, Miguel Cairo
Colorado: Jason Marquis
Minnesota: Ron Mahay, Brendan Harris
Looks like the Phillies are hosed.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why the Phillies will go all the way - Go Cubs by way of proxy
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 9, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait- isn't that supposed to be why they WON'T?
“The Ex-Cub Factor” The more ex-Cubs on your roster, the less likely your teams win the playoffs?
"Pain don't hurt you none" - Sparky Anderson (1987)
Obviously Sparky was never a Cubs fan...
by Zeke on Oct 9, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By sheer suckitude,
I’d say it’s the Yanks who have it worse.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might think..
… that Joey Gathright is the ex-Cub in that list with the fewest appearances as a Cub.
But you’d be wrong.
Gathright played in 20 games with 15 plate appearances.
Brendan Harris played in 3 games with 10 PA.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Sergio Mitre still on the Yankees?
Or did he not make the postseason roster?
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not on the Division Series roster.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Oct 9, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG. I had NO idea Gathright was even still playing
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMMMM....let's seee.....
Holiday and DeRosa scored their only runs……..gee…..seems to me if it wasn’t for them, there wouldn’t have been a bottom of the 9th….
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a confession to make.
I don’t hate the Cardinals. There I said it. I don’t hate the Cardinals. I’m not saying I like them by any means, but for some reason or other I’ve never learned to hate them. Around my house it’s more about hating the Sox. We are also near Brewer territory, so I do understand the sentiment. I just don’t share in it to the extent I feel I should.
This article today combined with the whining about towels and some of your posts about why to hate them is helping me to see the light, but now I’m just confused. I had been rooting for the Cardinals because to me it somehow makes the Cubs look better if the Cardinals do well. I’d rather come in second to a really great team. Do you know what I mean? I’d also like to see someone in the NL central win. Also because I can’t root for the Dodgers. I just can’t. Not after last year-that wound still hasn’t healed properly. Every time I see that Dodger team I cringe. So I have been somewhat rooting for the Cardinals against my better judgement. Does that make me evil? Do I have to turn in my Cub fan membership card? Is there any hope for my recovery?
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Oct 9, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Do I have to turn in my Cub fan membership card?
no, we just shred it
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 9, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
About this,
Do I have to turn in my Cub fan membership card?
You don’t have to. Each membership card, as I recall, let’s the owner make up his or her mind as to which teams to hate, and then the hated teams are put on the membership card by the owner.
On my card, the “hated teams” are (in this order) St. Louis, Boston, and the NY Yankees.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typo there.
“Each membership card, as I recall, lets the owner make up his or her mind”
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine would be White Sox, White Sox, White Sox
I also have a problem with the Yankees, Marlins, Diamondbacks, Braves(it’s the chop), and the Astros to a lesser extent.
The crazy part about our hating the White Sox is that I had a grandfather(never met him-died before I was born) that played in the minors for the Sox. You’d think my dad would have brought us up as Sox fans, but no. Kinda weird.
"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes
by katie casey on Oct 9, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This diatribe, which appeared yesterday on Halos Heaven, sums up how I feel about Red Sox fans, and, by extension, why Boston makes the list of hated teams on my membership card.
Yankee Syndrome Blindness
The more the Red Sox have won this decade, the more the team and their fans have morphed into a mimickry of Yankees fans – arrogant, spoiled by success, oblivious to 28 other teams in the league…. They have become the thing that they hate most.
There’s more there, but I think the meaning is clear. Most of the other things said are not issues I have with Boston or their fans. The one I quoted is.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope we can all morph there....
NEXT YEAR
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my enemies list is...
Cardinals, Marlins, White Sox, Padres, Mets, Yankees, Giants, Diamondbacks, Houston
Someday we'll go all the way.
by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Oct 9, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The White Sox don't make my "enemies list." Heck, they don't even come close.
Here are my enemies: Cardinals, Red Sox, Yankees, Padres, Diamondbacks, Astros, Brewers, Phillies, and Marlins.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you knew any of my friends
the sox would be on your enemies list lol. I like the red sox pre-2005. they were like us until they won and got an ego about them.
Someday we'll go all the way.
by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Oct 9, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
everybody's list
Is partially determined by where they grew up and where they live. I grew up in central Illinois, and the Cub and Cardinal fans were at each other’s throats. But White Sox fans are very rare downstate. I never learned to hate them, and barely knew they existed. It only see a significant number of them when I visit Chicago.
I live near San Francisco, and I have a somewhat more benign view of the Giants.
"When you're going through hell, keep going." - Winston Churchill
by vonde6 on Oct 9, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find it's much easier to cheer for your "favorites" than stress over "enemies"
and I’m fortunate enough to have 4 favorite teams – Cubs, Indians, Pirates, and…
…who’s ever playing the Yankees! ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I happen to believe that you can
cheer for the team that is playing your rival to beat them, without it rising to the level of hate. It’s like that old canard (paraphrasing to fit the topic): “My two favorite teams are the Cubs and whoever is playing the Cardinals”.
To me, that is a lot healthier than gloating or doing a dance when the team that you like has something bad happen to them.
by azjazzman on Oct 9, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freakin' Sager
If the Twins lose this series, I’m blaming Sager.
Jerk shoulda kept the damned bar open, too…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
UIBB to Mauer
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone still here?
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Time for a song....
ALL BY MYSELF!!!!!!
DON’T WANNA BE ALL BY MYSELF!!!!!!
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, pipe down.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'll have to speak up. I can't hear you over the band.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least these guys are better than last nights band....

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
organ players minus the organ
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 9, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my.
I say I can’t hear the photoshop artist over the band, and poof!
I go to get something at the supermarket, and come back to this. If I could pick one way this thread would go, I would not have guessed this.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about this band?

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or this band? ... lookit those hats!

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i've always like this band

their sentimental send up of “Lost In The Stars” gets me everytime
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still my favorite.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These guys could also play, too.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those guys or these guys?

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You left out the singer.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I knew something was missing.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But hey, they don't have a blue elephant in the band!

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Spock played the regular guitar.
See?
![]()
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One question ... where is Uhura in that?
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my. I had completely forgotten about that scene, especially since that movie was so bad.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that movie really, really, really did suck
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this was much better

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice eyes. They look like his in Star Trek.

Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
these eyes were much better
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure wish I could see them.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
![]()
that’s as far as I’m going with Marla. Harry had the last laugh
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, I sure wish I could see them.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kölsch? Karnival?

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
by eths on Oct 10, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Yankees.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 9, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do you doubt me?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Oct 9, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dirty Yankees
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cedeno!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no, ONEDEC
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not on that play
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
May their lamentation never cease

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
theres something about cardinal fans crying in their seats that makes me giddy
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 9, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope two of them are the jerks who harrassed my wife and my SIL
two drunks whose mockery of them took place after the Red Turds took the division a couple years ago outside Wrigleyville Sports while me and my brother were inside shopping to ease the pain. They wisely said nothing to us until we were in the car heading to Harry Carey’s to get Ryno’s autograph.
i would give good money to see those ding dong’s faces now
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Score of tonight's game?
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maaaan that was a nice nap.
0s through 5. Blackburn’s no-hitter broke with two outs in the bottom of the 5th.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
0-0 last I saw
Matching pitching gems from Blackburn and Burnett
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's a game going on right now?
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know.
I’ve been busy posting strange pictures.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've got snow :/
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 6:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where you at?
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fargo
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don't send that to us in Vermont.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think this will make it that far
Probably slowly move south and turn into rain
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So sorry bud. It's been raining for two days in Chicago
if it’s any consolation.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins 1-0!
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 9, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soriano would've caught that for sure
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damon did a nice imitation of Rowand on that one
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 9, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball on the radio, wrasslin' on TV, and some good Thai food
Friday nights don’t get much better than this! ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Per-iph-ER-al
Not per-iph-E-al, Ron
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He is definitely pro-Yankee.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excitable boy
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big-time.
He’s channeling Joe Buck.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tie game
Crap
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn Yankees.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I'm serious:
Soriano would’ve had him at the plate. Delmon Young’s arm is terrible.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's bein generous
Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..
coda
ELO, 1975
by cubnational on Oct 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's assuming Soriano got to that ball when Young did
Knowing Sori, he’d be somewhere in CF still
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whaaaaat? Yankees signed that ex-Bears running back, Matt Suhey?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Facing the Mahay kid
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well done, sir
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHA
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reggie Jackson's nickname is "The Big Bopper"?
Really Chip? Since when?
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 7:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chip Carey is the first Chip I have ever seen who is not a real estate broker who went
to school at USC, and who puts his name in quotes, like:
Ned “Chip” Jackson
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 9, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTH, Blackberry????
Background music fail. You do not remake any Beatles songs.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great minds
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you are Aerosmith
and are infinitely cooler.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, fella.
I’m a fan of The Beatles.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
That cover was for a really crappy movie.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't be fans of both?
Beatles wrote great songs, that’s true. “Get Back” was the Number 1 song in America when I was born, so I’ve always had a fondness for them, but Aerosmith’s “Come Together” is sicker, sleazier, and more full of gooey rock-n-roll grease than the Beatles could ever hope to replicate.
Some songs are meant to be covered.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Point taken.
However, I don’t think “All You Need is Love” is one of them.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True.
Plus, Blackberry sucks. You got a point there.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just for fun
A good Beatles cover and a helluva homage to one of the greatest Chicago-based movies ever.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That song is made to be covered.
Regardless of who sings it.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On this one
I think the Beatles did it best. Paul’s screaming vocals are perfect.
To an entire generation of Americans, this song and movie are synonymous.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily a bad thing
But I’m a sucker for that flick.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like Money (That's What I Want)?
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today is John Lennon's birthday
Would have been 69. Hard to believe.
by patches23 on Oct 9, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I defer to the great Denis Leary who said
"We live in a country where John Lennon takes six bullets in the chest. Yoko Ono is standing right next to him. Not one fucking bullet! Explain that to me!"
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Cure for Cancer is still one of my favorite comedy albums
I used to mix snippets of it into my sets when I DJ’ed – really messed with people’s heads
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Me too! I cut in the bits when he was talking about coke and the 1970’s over top of some disco/house jams, and the crowds used to love it.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blackberry using a terrible cover of "All You Need Is Love" to shill their crappy phones
Good thing Paul is dead – he’d be livid.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Paul is dead? I didn't believe you at first...
…but then I scrolled through this thread backwards and confirmed it.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not the only one
Who wants to call him Jerek Deeter…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GO-dan, Chip
Not GAW-dan
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Chip!
Where is your enthusiasm on that base hit????
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
His dad was better.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only person who thinks Ron Darling
sounds like that guy from all the Adam Sandler movies?

"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They're just showing the broadcast booth on TBS.
The vision in my right eye is slowly going on me. Are they trying to speed up the process????
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On to the 8th
1-1
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It still cracks me up that the Twins have a Harris and a Tolbert
They oughtta sign Vaughan, Dorn, and Taylor, as well.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are the fans booing?
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Aaron Heilman
in the stadium?
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now they have something to boo...
and me to cheer!!!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good hit-and-run
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2-1 Twins :D
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Punto with the go-ahead hit!
Screw the yankees
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Twins lead, 2-1!!!!!
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3-1!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
3-1!
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Either TBS sound mixers are terrible
or Chip needs to back up off that microphone. Damn…
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But we'll miss his cunning call of fisting fury!
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could probably put the mic outside the booth
and you’d still hear him just fine. Dude is spiking the VU meter.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All you bikers in the city... LOCK AND LOAD!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy!
It’s cold and damp in Chicago. I’m not ready for winter yet.
Would rather be out there in Cali about now.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOODIE!
It’s 66 here, with a light breeze. I’ve got freakin’ sandals on… Come on out, I’ve got room for ya- besides Wink the meister would love to see ya.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy!
How you doing in California? (almost wrote Chicago there)
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vermont!
Long day at work. Can’t wait to get this project off the ground next week! Doing good for an old man…
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice grab by Harris there!!!!
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what? I don't really like avocados...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what I love? Women's college volleyball.
I hate avocados.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dated a volleyball player in college
She was fun – wonder what happened to her…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most of them became lesbians at my school...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, same luck at mine...
Damn shame, because I’m looking at some photos right now that…
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Chil... those ass huggin' bottoms- college boys dream!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to love waching the proper parents
and grandparents of small-town Iowa sit at the college volleyball games and look on obliviously as hundreds of males at the age of their sexual peak leered wickedly at healthy young athletic girls in skin-tight clothing.
I’m not kidding, there were hundreds of us!
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many a conversation went like this...
“Ok, it’s Friday night, what are we going to do?”
“There’s a women’s VB game against Briar Cliff.”
“I’ll drive!”
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I keep getting distracted
by the picture right below this comment.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok then, I'll drive...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best part about volleyball players?
They already own kneepads…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeeahhh boy!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huskie women are a good thing...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CCSU's mascot is the Blue Devil
Close, though…
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong school :P
Although she bears a striking resemblence
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did you go to school? Chico State perchance?
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never mind. UW Superior is taking the lead for looks right now.
Followed by Concordia University and then Chico State.
by chilango2 on Oct 9, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emory University
Where the women either dated Georgia Tech guys or Agnes Scott girls.
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And on the food side of things
Made meatballs tonight, but used coarsely-chopped garlic instead of the minced stuff. Great flavor and the the chunks of garlic give the meatballs a little crunch. Tasty!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
once the Cubs are eliminated (an annual event)
I always cheer for the two smallest market teams (or teams that would be the worst draws) to make it to the WS. I figure that’s the least I can do to get back at Fox and MLB for all those crappy Saturday blackouts
would that be Twins & Rockies this year?
"Truth hurts. Maybe not as much as jumping on a bicycle with the seat missing, but it hurts." - Leslie Nielson
by LAcarl519 on Oct 9, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Twins and Cards Carl...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 9, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO....
Twins and Rockies…..gotta love baseball in the snow
The best defense is a good offense.....Lou Pinella...still hasn't managed the Cubs to a post season win. D. Lee still doesn't have a post seasson RBI for Cubs...ditto for Soriano
"It's so simple, it's unbelievable," manager Lou Piniella said. "When you score runs, you win."
by kcjones on Oct 9, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In terms of smallest markets, YES, it would be the Twins and Cards...
In terms of worst draws, it would be Twins and Rockies. FIXED.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw strikes, please.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Um, not those kind.
Damn Yankees.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tie game
Poop
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And the Twins just choked
Should have just walked A-Rod.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nathan's got no control :(
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Oct 9, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
!DOR-A
has turned it around in the post-season.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nathan is doing his best Kevin Gregg impression. :(
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just give him the goggles
and he’s almost got it. Except that fly out to center would’ve been a tape measure walk-off.
"Was you ever punched in the face five hundred times a night? It stings after a while." ~Rocky Balboa
by Goodie1969 on Oct 9, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wondering what the all commotion upstairs was
Then I realized that they’re watching the game, too :D
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees fans don't deserve A-Rod
Oh well, as much as I hate the damn yankees I love seeing A-Rod prove those morons wrong
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Free baseball
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets go Twins!
Change is inevitable; progress is optional.
by Devin B on Oct 9, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good for him
A very nice gesture, indeed
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice. Play. By. Cabrera.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hip-hip ... Jorge!
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 8:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So go to the link below
Right here. Click the first youtube video (mute the sound of course) and see what strange white things are waving in the Busch stadium crowd.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Real fans don't need props
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins choking it away
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Oct 9, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 9, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one in the Twins bullpen can find the zone, apparently.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
6-5 DP!
:)
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice DP!!!!!!
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
nice play by Cabrera to end the inning
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Score here Twins!
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 9, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Shit call there ump.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 9, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought that's why they brought in extra umps for these games
So they wouldn’t blow calls like that
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and he did anyway
Ump was squatting looking right down the line. How does he miss that?
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Oct 9, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it hit the LF's glove
In fair territory
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible call. Not even close. Ground rule double.
Some people say the glass is half empty, some say half full. I say, are you going to drink that?
by BleedsbluinMI on Oct 9, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Clogged
No outs!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is crap
It should be 4-3 now. Unreal
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Yankees get out of this my head might explode
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Un freaking believable
How fucking lucky
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good thing the Twins don't know that
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FPSM x 2
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dirty
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
son of a b#^&(
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 9, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There is a LF umpire and he misses that?
Hopefully he’s removed from his job tonight. I can’t believe how lucky the Yankees are, now A-Rod will hit a walkoff.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what was the blown call about
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 9, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
mauer hit a double down the line
called foul, it was fair by a foot
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That puts a runner on second for Kubel's single
at minimum that is first and third no outs, if not 4-3. Next batter got a single too making it 4-3 for sure
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
with that and all the crap calls against the red sox last night
youd think the umps are being paid by the yankees or something
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 9, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lousy, rotten...
Grrrrr!
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Oct 9, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yanks can thank the ump for this one.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 9, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Walk off homer Yankees win
This whole game is BS, I can’t wait for them to be eliminated
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Twins lose.
Damn Yankees.
Go Badgers ... beat Ohio State!!!!!!
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Oct 9, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
who here will not be surprised if tex wins the MVP award over mauer
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 9, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be a crime punishable by deportation for all BBWAA members if you ask me
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Oct 9, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not even the most deserving candidate on the team.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 9, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i said the same thing about pedroia last year..
"hey
by jesus christos on Oct 9, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youkilis? Dustin played a more important defensive position, so he was a fair choice
Though I don’t know if baseball writers particularly care about positional adjustments.
The 2009 White Sox....like a 40 degree day.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 9, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe the votes are cast before the post season.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 9, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget
to give credit to the ump for your win too.
Recipe for Disaster;
C'mon Cubs, hurry up and blow this so I can relax.
by Bluekoolaide on July22, 2009 3:08 PM CDT
by sue369 on Oct 9, 2009 9:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fixing Wikipedia on a slow night
For some reason I decided to re-read the Wiki entry on Greg Maddux and some idiot or prankster had written that Maddux currently lives in HILLSBOROUGH CA. I don’t think so. I took care of changing it to Vegas. Maddux is very protective of his home town. I don’t see how this could be a mistake either. Maddux has a beach house in Dana Point but that is nowhere near Hillsborough. I wonder if somebody is just going around and changing little stuff like that for fun.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 9, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That looks like a stupid peanut butter cookie
I want a chocolate chip or double chocolate chip.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 9, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's what you get for NOT saying "please"

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 9, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even with spiders , chocolate is good.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 10, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even a "thank you"?
No “please”, no “thank you”… I know you live in New York, but you were raised in the Midwest, weren’t you? Girl, where are your manners?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 10, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well a double chocolate chip cookie would be worth a thank you
or a brownie but a plain cookie and a spider chocolate cookie not so much.
Thanks for ball for my birthday though.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 10, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
F*^&%$$ing Wikipedia
They changed Maddux’s residence BACK TO HILLSBOROUGH CA !!!. What is this some kind of prank ? Maddux is one
of the most famous residence of Vegas and is probably one of the most obvious players in terms of home town. I tried
adding a citation this time but not clear how you put it in the right spot.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 10, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this a Wiki mistake too ?
I just fixed something else on the Maddux page but I want your opinions. It listed his last MLB APPEARANCE
( that exact phrase) as Sept 27 2008 but since he pitched in the post season his last MLB appearance was Oct. 15
2008. The reason they seem to list the Sept date date is that is listed as his "last game’ in Baseball Reference but
since he clearly made an MLB APPEARANCE on Oct 15 I changed it to that. Do you think this was right ?
If you want to see how it appears look here in the box on the right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Maddux
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 9, 2009 10:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They've been doing this as a "last regular season" appearance
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
by Ace Venom on Oct 9, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In that case they should change the wording as it says last MLB appearance.
I noted this in my “edit” info so they can change it back but Maddux sure as heck does not live in HIllsborough CA.
Slightly OT trivia question. Has a player ever made his debut in a post season game ? It is technically possible as
an injury replacement but seems pretty unlikely.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Oct 9, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The LF ump crapped the bed for sure
but, the Twins had bases loaded ZERO outs and couldn’t score. That’s backbreaking.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Oct 9, 2009 11:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
His family lives in Algonquin.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Oct 10, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In case you're not convinced the fix is in for the Yankees,
here’s the video clip of the blown call earlier tonight – linky
Not only did the ball land in fair territory by 4-6 inches, but it hit the LFer’s glove first while he was still in fair territory. And the most amazing thing of all is… the ump was in perfect position!!! None of this “Joe West waddling down the line so he can get 5 feet closer to a play that’s 100 feet away” stuff. This ump (Phil Cuzzi) was already well down the line and had turned around so he was looking right at the LFer and the line when the ball came down. He couldn’t have been more than 15-20 ft away from where the ball landed. And the dark green grass with a white foul line – it just doesn’t get any easier than this.
I’ve umpired before so I understand it’s not an easy job but this one really baffles the mind.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Oct 10, 2009 12:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He should be demoted or fired for that.
That turned the game. He was, like you said, less than 10 feet from the ball. It wasn’t even close.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
by dtpollitt on Oct 10, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said above, you gotta score with bases loaded no outs
Also, the next batter hit a single – right to where Texheria would have been had he not been holding Mauer on first. It would have been (likely) runner on 2nd 1 out had Mauer been on 2nd with a ground rule double, instead on runners on first and 2nd no outs.
Again, it was a terrible call, but it didn’t cost the Twins the game.
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
by Curtain Jerker on Oct 10, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Gods have...
Don Orsillo did his best to be neutral last night — and he’s probably the best of the four PBP guys doing the Division Series — but he’s the main PBP man on NESN for the Red Sox during the season. How did they make that selection?
an east coast bias too.
The Cards suck, and so does the city of St. Louis (one of the crappiest American cities I’ve been to). Go Dodgers!
"Repetition is only good when you've been winning." - Valet
by propheteer on Oct 10, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cards fan here
bernie miklasz is a terrible journalist. he’s condescending to his readers, ignores objective analysis in favor of sensationalism and he’s just an asshole
that said, he has a point. cubs choked the last two years, cards are choking this year. don’t see the big deal
Of course, hope means being cut down on some street corner, as you run like mad, by a random bullet.
by prophetjohn on Oct 10, 2009 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
first time i ever rooted for the dodgers. probably the last too.
by NOMAR on Oct 11, 2009 6:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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