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AL Gold Gloves announced. Apparently Jeter had a positive UZR/150 this year, but if I may, that's because his range sucks so much he cleanly plays every ball he gets to.

Also, Mauer is a stud, and that outfield looks like one hellva impressive defensive collection.

Dan

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Gross. There are like four or five other SS with better UZR.

Whatever.

Glad Joseph Jesus Mauer got his. Teixeira and Jones also totally deserved theirs.

by chilango2 on Nov 10, 2009 10:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I love that the best defensive outfielder in the game

Doesn’t win a Gold Glove. I’m guessing this is just warming us up for when Mauer doesn’t win AL MVP.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Nov 10, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ouch. But I fear you're right.

I actually bet my buddy in Minneapolis that Mauer doesn’t win the MVP.

by chilango2 on Nov 10, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Who do you think will win?

Teixeira? Jeter?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Nov 11, 2009 7:51 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

my guess is Tex

Excellent offensive year and arguably made a huge difference to their defense, similar to how Derrek Lee improved ours.

by toonsterwu on Nov 11, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope it goes to Mauer.

Amazing offensive season and played plus defense at catcher.

Without him, the Twins probably finish under .500.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Nov 11, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Of whom are you speaking, sir?

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Nov 10, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my bad

Franklin Gutierrez on Seattle. I thought I wrote his name, now I see I didn’t.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Nov 10, 2009 10:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My god his UZR/150 was 27.1 in over 150 games. WOW.

Ichiro/Hunter/Jones:

11.3/-2.1/6.7.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Nov 10, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

What's the higest UZR you guys have seen so far?

This award is a ridiculous waste of time.

by madcow256 on Nov 11, 2009 7:40 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ever?

Corey Patterson was something unreal in 2004 (24.4 I think) and Andruw Jones was in that 26-27 range a few times too. Its too bad UZR doesn’t go far enough back for Jones’ young days.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Nov 11, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Tomorow some lucky NL pitcher

gets a Gold Glove since Madog is no longer eligible. Heck who cares if he did not play this season I think he should get

  1. anyway.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Nov 10, 2009 11:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Why don't you petition MLB to just change the award to the Maddux Glove?

and of course, the Maddux Slugger too? And the Greg Maddux award? And the Most Maddux Player award? And the Maddux of the Year award?

Did I forget any?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 11, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Silver Maddux

This would be for most sacrifice bunts. Also the Mad Dog Award voted on by the players for the most skilled & prolific “gas” producer.

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Nov 11, 2009 9:17 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

andrus

should’ve won gold glove.

by toonsterwu on Nov 11, 2009 5:33 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

andrus

should’ve won gold glove.

by toonsterwu on Nov 11, 2009 5:33 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Blame the managers and coaches

They’re the ones who vote on the Gold Glove. It beats letting fans do it, but it’s not the first time they’ve made people wonder. After Rafael Palmeiro won a Gold Glove as a DH, I’ve considered the award meaningless. So you won a Gold Glove. Well la de freakin da.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Nov 11, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

And people complain about fans voting for All-Star game too

Turning that over to managers, coaches and players wouldn’t make it any better.

by rlpete on Nov 11, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

It seems the National League Managers/Coaches one upped their American League Counterparts in the stupid department. Ryan Zimmerman…really…he was the best defensive third basemen in the NL. Without even looking at any defensive metrics, I will say he was not. I remember him making some horrible throws against the Cubs this year.

I personally think the coaches need to be protected from themselves. Some combination of defensive metrics need to be used to widdle the list down to three possible candidate per position so as to combat some of the offensive bias that gets interjected into this award. To restore some balance to the force, I keep waiting for the silver slugger award to be awarded to an offensive inept player….NUTS

"All I want is food and creative love" - Rusted Root

by TheRiot Police on Nov 11, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Zimmerman wasn't an awful choice

I haven’t looked at the 2009 numbers but he is above average. Again it is a bit of a popularity and/or hitting contest. Pedro Feliz is possibly the right candidate but he wouldn’t get it.

by rlpete on Nov 11, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs


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