2010 CHONE projections are out

Of note: Milton Bradley is projected to be the best hitter on the team (in terms of R/150), and Soriano is projected to suck again (though not quite as badly).

about 2 years ago Wreckard 24 comments 0 recs |

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Nice projection on Soto,

after last year I would take it right now.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Nov 16, 2009 11:22 AM CST reply actions

I think the Ramirez projection is underdone...

… affected too much by the half season he missed in 2009. While he’ll probably never play 150 games again, he’ll almost surely play more than 119.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 16, 2009 11:26 AM CST up reply actions

Anybody know why Jake Fox is loved by these systems so much?

Bill James liked him next year a lot too. Obviously defense has nothing to do with it, but that is a damn good hitting line they have for him.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Nov 16, 2009 11:32 AM CST reply actions

His small sample size of major league data means it has to rely heavily on weighted minor league data

I’m sure each of these systems has its own weighting it assigns to minor league stats to project major league stats, based on past examples. It could be that the offense-friendly PCL skews these projections for Cubs hitters (Fuld’s numbers don’t seem achievable to me either) but who knows.

by Wreckard on Nov 16, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah Fuld, Scales, and Hoffpauir were all high to me

Must have something to do with the PCL.

On a side note I love Z being better than Miles in the projections.

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Nov 16, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions

That's a crappy team right there, I'll tell you that.

What crap offense. Leading hitter, 148 hits. Homers, 26. RBI, 84. OPS, not even .900. Crappity crap crap.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Nov 16, 2009 11:36 AM CST reply actions

Looks a lot crappier when the top guy really isn't on the team

Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.

by nji232 on Nov 16, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions

On a team that features...

Lee, Ramirez and Soriano, this system thinks that the highest HR total will be 26?

Goodbye, credibility.

by kanderber on Nov 16, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions

Yes because the credibility of a complex, well-supported system of projection should be entirely based on 3 data points

I’m also not sure why you think that’s totally out of line for 3 players who have averaged 26, 23 and 27 home runs respectively over the last 3 seasons.

by Wreckard on Nov 16, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions

+1

by madcow256 on Nov 16, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions

What about Granderson ?

Granderson hit 30 homeruns last year

by CUBFANINAZ on Nov 16, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions

You can look those up...

….here. Granderson is toward the bottom of the list.

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by daver on Nov 17, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions

I couldn't quite figure that out, until I realized...

… that list is sorted by position. If it had been sorted the same way the 2010 Cub list that was posted here was, Granderson would have been ranked 2nd, right behind Miguel Cabrera.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 17, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions

I just noticed that Pujols' projected R/150 is higher than the top 3 Cubs combined

Youch.

by Wreckard on Nov 16, 2009 11:59 AM CST reply actions

I haven't looked, but...

… I’m guessing that number for Pujols is probably higher than the top 3 combined for most teams.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 16, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions

Yeah, I'm more pointing out how amazing Pujols is than saying anything about the Cubs there.

There aren’t very many players on any team with R/150’s over 30, let alone 50 like he has. Only Mauer really comes close.

by Wreckard on Nov 16, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions

so they think Lee's 2009 was a fluke?

I think the projections for Derrek and Aramis are too low.

by elgato on Nov 16, 2009 12:14 PM CST reply actions

Where's Reed Johnson?

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Nov 16, 2009 12:34 PM CST reply actions

Free agents are listed via a link at the bottom

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by cubzfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions

Aaron Miles

3 hr & 25 rbis, what a joke.

by Cubsfan Waveland on Nov 16, 2009 12:38 PM CST reply actions

perhaps

that was a typo… and that is their projection for the rest of his career. Though that would still be a pretty aggressive prediction.

by fsuapollo on Nov 16, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions

One comparison for Soriano

When Jason Bay played through a knee injury, his OPS+ dropped from around 120 to @85. He had his knee cleaned out after the season, and went right back to a few more years of 120. Soriano dropped from a recent average of closer to 110 OPS+, also to the mid-80s. After a similar procedure, I think he will bounce back to the 110 range again, probably power-heavy batting in the sixth spot.

Fontenot (fon-te-no): Cajun for "scrappy"

by cubzfan on Nov 16, 2009 2:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs