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There's not much baseball front office activity on this holiday weekend, so I thought I'd post another bit of history.

A couple of weeks ago in this post, I commented on this Chicago Tribune article from October 30 (finally found an online link!) in which the photo caption read "The grounds crew at Wrigley Field installs new sod for the beginning of the 1962 season". In that photo, the sign on the building on Waveland & Kenmore -- now blocked from view from Wrigley by "temporary" boards -- was for the Ricketts restaurant about a mile from the ballpark.

I had not seen any photos of that building with the Ricketts sign after the 1940's, and that, along with the clothing of the grounds crew, made me think that photo was taken then.

Turns out the Tribune -- surprisingly enough -- was probably correct. After the jump, you'll see the explanation -- and more on this little slice of Cubs history -- courtesy of BCB reader Bill Wasik, who attended many games at Wrigley in the 1950's and 1960's, and who now lives in New Jersey. Before you read that, take a close look at the photo below, taken on April 29, 1961.

Remarkable detail in this photo
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Star-divide

One thing I have noticed in researching these photo essays is that there are almost no photos of Wrigley Field in the 1950's available, either online or in books. The reason for that should be fairly obvious -- it was the Cubs' worst decade, attendance and interest was low, and so who bothered to take or save photos? I'm glad that 1961 photo exists, because that was one of the lowest-attendance years of the entire era (673,057, fifth lowest since 1945); little other photographic evidence of the ballpark and its environs exists from that time, and in it is contained the answer to this mystery. I'll let Bill Wasik explain:

Because you have invited comments on this obscure topic, I can offer my opinion that the Trib¹s photo was taken no earlier than 1960, when the WGN signs first went up on both the turret and alcove, and no later than 1962, which was the last year of the Ricketts sign. By '63, WGN had taken over the entire roof.

Also, I believe the sign in the April 1961 photo was a temporary banner that went up during the Bears season in 1960. This scrim advertised Dan Ward as the Democratic candidate for States Attorney in 1960. Like your neighbor's Christmas lights, it should have been taken down months before -- perhaps the building owner was waiting for Ricketts to pay his 1961 rent. (By the way, in the late 1930's the sign on the alcove roof was for Old Gold cigarettes. Watch "When It Was a Game" vol. 1 on DVD: When Smilin' Stan Hack appears you'll see both Old Gold and Ricketts show up clearly in the background of this early color film.)

While I don't have photos to back up my comments, I do recall spending many pleasant days in the bleachers in the late 50's and early 60's, sometimes standing at the back fence in left field during batting practice and watching Mays, Aaron, Adcock, Cepeda, and especially Frank Howard or Dick Stuart send balls flying across Waveland Avenue toward the old frame house.

Because Wrigley Field was such a dead zone in those days, even small changes were memorable. Ernie's became Ray's. The Fox Head 400 sign in right field went over to Miller High Life. The coal yard on Clark Street was now the site of Henry's Drive-In, while the Sinclair and Standard stations on Sheffield became strictly gameday parking lots. And WGN put up its signs on the old house ­originally with yellow lettering on a dark blue background, and later with the much more familiar red on silver.

That appears to be the definitive answer, and I thank Bill for emailing me with that much detail from a nearly forgotten era in Cubs history. Here's another photo from the 4/29/1961 game which shows -- in the upper left corner of the frame -- the Miller High Life sign that Bill is talking about. Also take note of how people dressed to go to a ballgame in those days. That game was played on a Saturday; attendance was 9,842 and the game-time temperature was 56, not too bad for a day in late April.

There's only one person wearing a Cubs cap
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Very interesting reading Al

and thanks to Bill who added to your article.

All this made me think of the Torco sign that was a big part of the roof top sky line. When did it go up (and down). Probably another article for another day though.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Nov 27, 2009 9:08 AM CST reply actions  

Torco Oil

I may not be right, but for no obvious reason I can remember listening to a game in early 1973 or 1974, and hearing Vince Lloyd announce that there’s a new sponsor this season, Torco Oil, and they have their new sign up along the right field line. I think it was in 1974.

by Lifesize on Nov 27, 2009 9:26 AM CST reply actions  

That sounds about right...

… and it lasted into the mid 1980’s, IIRC.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

FWIW....

… the batter in the photo is Frank Thomas. No, not the White Sox guy — this Frank Thomas. He had decent power — in 1962 he hit 34 HR for the expansion Mets.

About 10 days after this photo was taken, Thomas was traded to the Braves for Mel Roach — a pointless trade for a player who hit .128 for the Cubs in 23 games and then was himself dealt away for a pair of minor leaguers who never made it.

The Cubs made a lot of trades like that in the 1950’s and early 1960’s.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 9:38 AM CST reply actions  

Business Games

My father told me that the in the 60’s they used to call day games “Business Games” or something along those lines. People who leave work early and go straight the ball-park.

While that still happens today I’d like the preface that people usually jut call in sick or take a vacation day to go to a game because you rarely ever see someone dressed up!

Oddly enough the photo is from a game played on a Saturday yet people were still dressed up.

by ak123 on Nov 27, 2009 10:17 AM CST reply actions  

People didn't dress casually in the 60s the way we do now.

You notice there’s only one person in that second photo wearing any sort of team clothing (a cap). And that looks like a teenager. In the 1960’s adults just didn’t wear team clothes — just didn’t happen. People dressed up to “go out”, and going to a ballgame was “an outing”.

It was a different time.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

For details on how to dress "casually" in the early 60s

…and for that matter, the 30’s and 40’s….watch any edition of AMC’s “Mad Men."

In this modern era, we dress like complete slobs in comparison, sadly. There was no industry turning out ‘team gear.’ Outside of some cap vendors outside of Wrigley Field, a pencil, a button, a pennant were about the only things a fan could buy.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Nov 27, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

It's the same for people that fly

Mad Men rules.

I remember only little kids wore baseball caps, unless you played Little League or HS ball and displayed your team colors.

I remember when I first flew to San Diego from O’Hare. I flew with my Uncle and we dressed up to get on the plane. Casual clothes back in the day were slacks, a button-down short sleeved shirt or polo-type and no sneakers for the men. I know that clothing styles are in constant flux and sometimes actually return to earlier styles. I wonder if it was just a factor of the times when club wear and a general acceptance of less than snappy attire was “normal” or is it simply the evolution of clothing/marketing and its emergence into everyday life?

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Nov 27, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's the latter...

… marketing, plus a more casual approach to everyday life.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

True but during the work week

Games during the week back then were called “Business Man’s Special”.

by ak123 on Nov 27, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll take your (and Bill's) word for it that this was taken in 1961, but take a look at the scoreboard...

…towards the bottom, looking through the chair legs from the catwalk in the foreground. Does that number look like 1962 to you? Hard to tell from the picture, but is that part of the Cubs line score? I don’t think so because no numbers before the 1.

Maybe it’s the part of the scoreboard below the Cubs line score? If so any idea what that area was used for back then? Advertising, I presume, but I can’t think of what product might have a year associated it with except for cars and wine. Or maybe something to do with the Bears?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 27, 2009 10:42 AM CST reply actions  

Yes, that's exactly what it says...

… and I have the explanation for that, too.

In 1961, the AL expanded but the NL didn’t. The scoreboard was rebuilt before the 1961 season to accomodate the expanded AL, with the knowledge that the NL was going to add New York and Houston in 1962. That’s precisely what that linescore at the bottom of the NL side reads: “NEW YORK/HOUSTON 1962”

Remember that in those days, the Cub linescore was kept in the MIDDLE of the board, not at the bottom as it is now. You can see this a little better in this photo:

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Note that the Cubs ...

… and White Sox… linescores were both in red, in the middle of the board.

This was kept that way until Tribune Co. took over in 1981.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

why'd they change? I actually like it that way

and what was the deal with those seats in the outfield that weren’t occupied? Seems like they could have easily sold them..

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by Chanman25 on Nov 27, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

That's the hitter's background.

They were closed in 1953 because of complaints from hitters that they couldn’t see the ball coming out of a background of white shirts (probably nearly everyone wore white shirts in those days). The only time anyone has sat there since 1953 was during the 1962 All-Star Game.

It’s where the Batter’s Eye club is now, although that’s a lot smaller than this area — some of the area you see in the photo as blocked-off seating was returned to seating use in the 1980’s (the seats on the left and right edges of the blocked-off area).

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

About the scoreboard...

… here’s a photo that was taken on June 22, 1953 (has to be 1953, because that’s the only year that Milwaukee was in the NL and St. Louis in the AL). The Cubs beat the Dodgers 9-4. When the board was first built the Cub score was on the TOP — when they rebuilt it in 1961, they moved the Cub linescore to the middle. IMO, they should have left it on top.

I love stuff like this.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

More about this game.

The boxscore gives the time of game as 2:14 — this photo is clearly taken right when the game is ending, because they are posting the final score. The clock says 3:45.

Thus, we know that games in 1953 started at 1:30 pm. This game was played on a Monday afternoon and the attendance was 16,708.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Also...

… that’s about the oldest color photo of the scoreboard I have been able to locate.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I see a new book in your future, Al

Wrigley Field scoreboards through the eras and the layout of the field itself, i.e. the basket, the changing of the box seats, the movement of the bullpen mounds, the emergence of the rooftop bleachers, the rooftop signs, etc. lol

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Nov 27, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting idea.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you have a higher res pic of this?

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Nov 27, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, no.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Cool - thanks for the explanation

Was that photo taken from the same game? I was trying to figure out who the batter was.

Scoreboard says #22 and thanks to kasey’s site, I find that Al Heist was #22 in 1961, But he batted RH. So it must be the Dodgers guy. Going through the boxscore from that game, the only LH starters were Maury Wills, Wally Moon and Johnny Podres.

It’s not Wills for obvious reasons – btw, did you know that Wills’ middle name was “Morning”? Interesting… Judging by the stance and the way he’s looking at that pitch go by, I’d guess it was Podres. Sure enough, if I go back to the first photo in this post and zoom in on the scoreboard, now that I know the Cubs linescore was in the middle of the scoreboard, I see “22” in the spot next to Los Angeles.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 27, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, those photos are from the same game.

It has to be Podres batting. Look at the scoreboard in the second photo — it shows three completed innings, thus it would have been the top of the 4th. #22 was batting with two out. The PBP in the boxscore says that Podres made the last out of the top of the 4th.

Mystery solved.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Something that is also unique to that era

Wrigley Field’s ‘dirt’ is…grey. The brownish colored ‘dirt,’ or ‘clay’ didn’t appear until the 80s, I believe. (Another Tribune/Dallas Green change, I’d wager.) Wrigley’s infield always looked ‘darker’ than other ballparks, even on B & W TV’s.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Nov 27, 2009 12:10 PM CST reply actions  

I believe you are correct...

… that the infield dirt was changed in the 1980’s. Even in the ’70s, the infield dirt was that color.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

In general, I love this stuff!

Thanks, Al for digging up these photos and the deciphering of the players and the dates of the pics. This goes hand in hand with the joy of sitting next to someone that is older than me and having them talk about the old days from their perspective, reliving games and situations that happened in their time, as they saw it. I remember sitting in the cheap seats in the Chicago Stadium and I sat next to an Irish gentleman who told stories about the Hawks in the early ’60’s. That kind of stuff is pure gold.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Nov 27, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions  

When I first started sitting regularly in the bleachers...

… in the 1970’s, I fell into a group of people — some of whom still are in my bleacher group — whose “elder” was man we called “Papa Carl”. Carl was retired at the time and used to get in line at 6:30 am to get the first bleacher ticket, in the days when they sold tickets the day of the game only. Then he’d save seats for us.

He had been coming to Wrigley since it opened. He told us stories of seeing Babe Ruth play at Wrigley during the 1932 and 1938 World Series.

That’s a real cool connection to the origins of Wrigley Field and the Cubs of almost 100 years ago.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 27, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow!

I wish I could go back in time and watch baseball in each of its eras, but especially when the Babe and Gehrig played and post WW2 up to expansion/free agency. I love watching MLB TV when they play World Series games from the past.

"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse

by BigJohnAZ on Nov 27, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Following up on the blue marquee sign:

I always remembered it as red, going back to the 1950s. I left Chicago in 1964, and didn’t get back to visit until the late 1970s.

The clue in the photo is that part of the outside wall of Wrigley was painted blue, and the marquee was probably painted blue to match. I don’t recall ever seeing the blue wall, so it was probably done for a few seasons between 1965 and the late 70s.

That’s my guess.

by Clark Addison on Nov 27, 2009 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

We know the marquee was blue in the early 1960's...

… from the photos I’ve posted. The photos showing that outside wall blue are all from after the time when the marquee was painted red — which may have been around 1964 or 1965. They may have gone with a red-white-and-blue color scheme for the 1962 All-Star Game.

But the marquee was definitely NOT red in the 1950’s — I posted photos in the other thread definitively showing that.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 28, 2009 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

bottom of the wall

What’s at the base of the wall in the first photo? Garbage? Birds? Snow?

by raisin1 on Nov 28, 2009 8:22 PM CST reply actions  

Garbage, probably.

Remember, there was no basket back then.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 28, 2009 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I know the basket wasn't installed until later (1970, IIRC) but it sure looks like something is there

If I open up picture and magnify, there is an extremely uniform line about 3 ft below the top of the wall in front of the seating areas where the ivy stops growing. Did they just trim the ivy down to that level so fans wouldn’t reach down and pull at it?

It must have been really thick ivy too as I see at least two white things – beer cups I imagine – stuck on the top of the ivy along that line.

I also notice that ivy goes all the way to the top of the left field wall in front of the catwalk, and then again in center in front of the batter’s eye.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 29, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Where do you live in Jersey, Bill?

I know of a few fans here and there, but I’m always looking to meet others and talk baseball.

"I intend to live forever-- so far, so good." - Steven Wright

by Drunk Cubs Fan on Nov 29, 2009 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

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