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The author makes some solid points.
Hopefully, someone forwards that blogpost to Josh himself.
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by dat cubfan daver on Nov 6, 2009 9:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
We better not have Jeff Francour part two here
As the post says, only Miguel Tejada has really pulled off the “swing at everything and still be somewhat decent” approach. Somebody needs to teach him some plate discipline. It’s what killed Corey Patterson.
Just say no to players named Aaron on the Cubs.
by nji232 on Nov 6, 2009 10:02 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
At least...
… Vitters is only 20 years old and probably at least two years away from the major leagues — so there’s still time to do that, unlike Patterson, who was rushed and resisted coaching.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Nov 6, 2009 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But the same men who continued to promote Patterson despite the flaws not being addressed are still there.
I’d suggest that they might have learned, but then there’s Samardzija . . . .
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
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by Shanghai Badger on Nov 6, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there is nothing wrong with his thinking
the problem lies in being “selective agressive” versus just aggressive. He needs to learn to wait for a better pitch to hit, instead of flailing away at the first strike.
I am worried because the Cubs have not had success teaching this approach to hitters coming through the system. And he seems “anit-walk” in his sentiment—almost like taking a walk is a bad thing.
Age has nothing to do with this change. It’s the willingness on his part and a good instructor to teach him the value of the change. If not, I really have doubts about him getting past AA at any point of his career.
by socalbob on Nov 6, 2009 10:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
They clog the bases, Dude.
And he seems "anit-walk" in his sentiment—almost like taking a walk is a bad thing.
I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Nov 6, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you Aaron Rowand for Bradley folks noticed
He is on the list of guys who walk the least. Hey at least Milton takes pitches and walks.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Nov 6, 2009 11:41 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
true
the Rowand thing is bad for the Cubs
by socalbob on Nov 6, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How?
He’s a good outfielder, good clubhouse guy, and there’s at least a chance he’ll return to his 2007 level.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al on Nov 6, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
offensively he is putrid
that’s why. You are banking on his return to his career year in leaving SFO. He’s not the same hitter as he was in Philly. This is the same as Hendry banking on Fontenot playing to the same level as he did in ‘08. Just isn’t going to happen.
As for the clubhouse, I am tired of how much importance this is given. If teams win, the clubhouse is good. If teams lose or struggle, then we hear the whining about chemistry. Guys don’t need to be buddy-buddy to play good baseball and help the team win. Having Rowand at the expsense of Bradley is not going to make the team better.
I realize this may be the only move Hendry can make as he has to trade MB—he left himself no other options by his reaction to the situation. If you can tell me Soto will put up .280, 20, and 80, Soriano will put up .280, 35, 90, Fontenot/Baker will put up .275, 20, 75, and Rami will post .320, 30, 110, then I can live with Rowand hitting 8th and playing a good CF.
by socalbob on Nov 6, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He has been declining for two years
and look there is a world between Rowand and Milton for clubhouse charactor etc. I don’t want to pay a guy 36 million because he is good in the clubhouse. Either trade Milton to the club willing to pick up the largest amount on the contract ( there are dumpster divers out there who might go 3-5 million) or just (gasp) keep him.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Nov 6, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
how about
we trade Milton Bradley for a player who is of equal value or we just dont trade him at all?
by CalCalender on Nov 6, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Realistically you can't trade him for the value of his contract
but I am not as hell bent as others on dumping him a all costs. Still if you are going to dump him don’t make it WORSE by getting a player who is worse an or has a worse contrat.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim
by Doggie Stalker on Nov 6, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Unpossible.
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
by dat cubfan daver on Nov 6, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats recockulous
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Nov 6, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and there’s at least a chance he’ll return to his 2007 level.
and if he doesnt….
"hey
by jesus christos on Nov 6, 2009 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OF goes from bad to worse
if Hendry trades Bradley for Rowand.
People who don’t care don’t respond, and people who do care do respond. Does that make sense Bronco fans trying to validate the trade?
by propheteer on Nov 7, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wary
when a person tries to interpret what someone else says.
Hopefully, a reporter will have a longer dicussion with Vitters about the subject of walks.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Nov 6, 2009 12:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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