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2009 SBNation Awards: Manager Of The Year

At the end of the regular season, all the SBN blogs cast their ballots for the same awards given out by the BBWAA. To make the vote comparable to the BBWAA vote, each site was given two votes, and NL blogs voted only for NL teams, AL blogs for AL teams. (And yes, I'm as puzzled as you will be to see a second-place vote for John Russell.) For Manager of the Year, Rookie of the Year, and Cy Young, we voted for the top three and points are given as 5-3-1. For MVP, we voted for the top 10 and points are awarded as follows, 1st through 10th: 14-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1. Ballots were due the day after the regular season ended, so playoff performances and team results have no bearing on this voting.

As has been the case the last three years, I gave the second BCB ballot to Mike, who draws all the cartoons here. Today, I present the SBN Managers of the Year; after the jump you'll find the results for both the AL and NL balloting, and here are the two BCB ballots:

Al: 1) Jim Tracy 2) Tony LaRussa 3) Bruce Bochy Mike: 1) Jim Tracy 2) Tony LaRussa 3) Charlie Manuel

The schedule for the rest of the week is:

Tuesday 11/10: Rookie of the Year Wednesday 11/11: Cy Young Award Thursday 11/12: MVP

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National League

Rk Manager Team 1st 2nd 3rd Pts
1 Jim Tracy Colorado Rockies 24 1 2 125
2 Tony LaRussa St. Louis Cardinals 3 7 10 46
3 Fredi Gonzalez Florida Marlins 2 6 5 33
4 Joe Torre Los Angeles Dodgers - 9 2 29
5 Charlie Manuel Philadelphia Phillies - 3 5 14
6 Bruce Bochy San Francisco Giants 1 1 1 9
7 Bobby Cox Atlanta Braves - 1 4 7
8 Bud Black San Diego Padres - 1 1 4
9 John Russell Pittsburgh Pirates - 1 - 3

American League

Rk Manager Team 1st 2nd 3rd Pts
1 Mike Scioscia Los Angeles Angels 9 8 3 72
2 Ron Gardenhire Minnesota Twins 9 5 1 61
3 Don Wakamatsu Seattle Mariners 6 3 8 47
4 Joe Girardi New York Yankees 2 4 2 24
5 Ron Washington Texas Rangers 1 4 4 21
6 Terry Francona Boston Red Sox 1 1 3 11
7 Jim Leyland Detroit Tigers - 2 4 10
8 Joe Maddon Tampa Bay Rays - 1 1 4
9 Ozzie Guillen Chicago White Sox - - 1 1
10 Trey Hillman Kansas City Royals - - 1 1

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That AL ballot is a joke. Girardi 4th for doing what, exactly? Leading the pre-season favorites and the richest team in MLB to the playoffs? Gardenhire should be first, but Scioscia is a fine replacement.

"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks

by dtpollitt on Nov 9, 2009 8:23 AM CST reply actions  

Hmm. Jim Tracy. Isn't he the guy Pittsburgh ran out of town?

Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...

by Zeke on Nov 9, 2009 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

Funny how that happens.

I believe both Joe Torre and Terry Francona were ran out of town by their respsective teams and they then went to the win multiple World Series Championships.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Nov 9, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

So Dusty's next!

Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...

by Zeke on Nov 9, 2009 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

quick

someone run ryno out of town and then invite him back!

"hey

by jesus christos on Nov 9, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting...

…you don’t think it had anything to do with the players they had, do you?

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Nov 9, 2009 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Jim Riggleman should get a vote for watching every Nats game...

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Nov 9, 2009 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

Seriously?

Bud Black? John Russell?

Ridiculous.

by kanderber on Nov 9, 2009 12:18 PM CST reply actions  

OT: Stats help

Sorry to hijack this thread a little, but I’m looking for a little guidance. If I’m looking to pull up numbers on a specific position, what is my best bet for going about that? I’m trying to look at 2009 stats/rankings (both offense and defense) for Centerfielders around all of baseball. I took a quick look at MLB.com & Baseball Reference, but nothing jumped out at me. Maybe I’m missing it. Thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Nov 9, 2009 2:39 PM CST reply actions  

Surprisingly enough, espn.com might have what you're looking for

Give this link a look-see:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding/_/position/cf/order/true

Just remember to apply a counter-hype deflation factor of at least .85 on any Red Sox or Yankee player… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 9, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the help!

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Nov 10, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

mlbtraderumors:

A very interesting idea is being reported by Ken Rosenthal: a three-way deal, with Milton Bradley going to the Blue Jays, Luis Castillo to the Cubs, and Lyle Overbay to the Mets. Rosenthal said “The teams indeed have discussed the framework of such a deal, though not in direct fashion, according to major-league sources.”

by Andronicus on Nov 9, 2009 6:53 PM CST reply actions  

Well.....there's a short-term leadoff bat for the Cubs in that deal.

.387 OBP
20 SB

But still looking for that big LH bat Lou wants (and frankly, is needed).

"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."

by The Jade Scorpion on Nov 9, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

ADAM LIND!!!!!

:D

Aqui viene el Toro Venezolano, Carlos Zambrano, a batear...el lanzamiento...A LO PROFUNDOOO...NOO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOO...DIGALE QUE NO A ESA PELOTA!! GANAN LOS CACHORROS DE CHICAGO!!

by Azul Cachorro on Nov 9, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

sorry - the only place Adam Lind is moving to is about 45 feet to his left

If Toronto does trade Overbay, supposedly Lind will move over and play first.

But wait a sec… we may be in the market for a 1st baseman in 2011… Hmm… maybe the new Toronto GM is laying the groundwork for a future deal?

IT"S PRE-HAPPENING!!!??!!?!?!?!!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 9, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions  

well, duh....

…it’s called a “platoon”!

sheesh… have to explain everything to you young whippersnappers…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 9, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

That's interesting.

Hm. I’d guess we’d have to pay approximately the difference between Bradley and Castillo’s salaries to do that deal… I think that puts it roughly in the same class as the Rowand idea, maybe with a little less downside (Castillo has 2 years left, Rowand 3; Rowand has had injury problems and a penchant for running into fences) and probably less upside (Rowand is a couple years younger, has been a good hitter in the past).

by aldimond on Nov 9, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not interested in Castillo.

And I don’t think the Jays are really interested in Bradley, either.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

These awards...

…are very fleeting to say the least.

If I recall, didn’t Hurdle win the year the Rockies made the WS? There are a lot of good managers who rarely sniff these awards, and there are also some mediocre ones who win them.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Nov 9, 2009 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

Only in the Italian League

I'm singing, "GO CUBS GO! GO CUBS GO!" -- DrCrawdad on Jun 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! -- Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Nov 10, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Fra-Gil-E! (clap clap clapclapclap)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Nov 10, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

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