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A Cubs f/x exclusive interview with the newest member of the organization, and rotation candidate, Mike Parisi

about 2 years ago Face_tiny Harry Pavlidis 15 comments 1 recs  | 

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It's a good gamble

to add some depth for camp. He has potential end of the rotation type stuff. Actually, he seems somewhat similar to Casey Coleman. At the end of the day, it’s a cheap gamble, and if it doesn’t work, he goes back.

by toonsterwu on Dec 10, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

btw, nice interview

very thorough and good information on your part. I particularly liked your last question about his arm angle. Also, it was nice that he seemed fairly honest about things.

by toonsterwu on Dec 10, 2009 12:24 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks

He was a real pleasure to chat with, quite open and gracious.

He was clearly pumped up about today’s events, it means a lot to him to be picked this way and given a shot.

He was very grateful and spoke highly of Duncan and TLR. Even though they parted ways (for now), he seems to really feel like the Cards gave him the direction that’s led to this opportunity. He didn’t say that directly, but that was what I took away. Hopefully the Cubs can gain the benefits from Duncan’s wisdom this time around!

by Harry Pavlidis on Dec 10, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

He could be tradeable, right?

If someone sees him in camp and likes him, maybe they’d send the Cubs a prospect they could keep, and let the other team worry about keeping him all year.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 10, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I think waivers get mixed in

Not sure about that, in terms of moving his rights to another club. I know you have to waive the guy to get him back to the originating team.

by Harry Pavlidis on Dec 10, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I believe....

… you can trade a Rule 5 guy, but the ACQUIRING team then has to keep him all year on the 25-man, or offer him back to the original team. Isn’t that what happened with Tim Lahey in 2008?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 10, 2009 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

You are correct

You can zap the guy via trade with no restrictions. If waived, the claiming team also gets the Rule 5 obligations.

by Harry Pavlidis on Dec 10, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Great interview, thanks.

I guess my only question would be, given how difficult David Patton’s ’09 season was to get through, would the Cubs seriously considering breaking camp with another Rule 5 guy?

Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.

by daver on Dec 10, 2009 12:29 PM CST reply actions  

my take is

a) even if he we send him back, it’s a cheap gamble, and someone can eat innings in the spring.

b) He does have end of the rotation stuff … I mean … looking at Gorzelanny/Samardzija/Marshall (who seems slated for the pen)/Parisi, and I can see Parisi perhaps beating them out.

c) There is another way to look at it. Say he is our long man (he could start as the 5th starter and move to long man when Lilly comes back, or he could start as the long man). That could allow us to perhaps keep, say, Esmailin Caridad or someone else in AAA as a stretched out arm.

At the end of the day, I think the best way to look at it is, Rule 5 picks that succeed are the exception, so for the price, it’s a cheap gamble. I don’t have high expectations.

by toonsterwu on Dec 10, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd say yes, for two reasons

First, they’ve proven they will go the distance with a guy
Second, Parisi is more polished. Patton has a decent curve (he may leave it up too much) and a good-ish fastball, but he hasn’t rounded out as a complete pitcher. Parisi is further along, still working on things, but the cutter has been a game changer. He comes with a good fastball and curveball, a decent change and now the cutter.

As toonsterwu just said in the next comment down, it’s a low cost gamble. If he has to be waived/sent back, the Cubs are only out 25k and some mound time in Mesa. If it works out, you have a low cost swingman.

by Harry Pavlidis on Dec 10, 2009 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for both your replies.

Definitely no harm in looking. The cutter thing is interesting.

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by daver on Dec 10, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

It's interesting to me for a separate reason

Casey Coleman’s in basically the same boat. Both of them have low 90’s fastball with a 2-seamer’s that sits in the high 80’s (and off visual evidence, Coleman’s 2-seamer also seems more of a tailer than a hard sinker), along with decent change and curve options. Coleman really needed a pitch to force the hitter to adjust, so he started messing around with a cutter/slider that can be classified much in the same way Harry classified Parisi’s – a slutter of sorts.. Parisi picked it up later in his career than Coleman did, and I’ll be fascinated to see how they track and if there’s some similarities.

I guess it’s interesting to me because Larry Rothschild is known as a good slider teacher (unless my brain’s fried, I’m pretty sure of that, though) so it’ll be interesting to compare their developments. That said, I might be the only one fascinated with the fact that Parisi and Coleman have some similar attributes.

Harry makes an excellent point that I was trying to make but it didn’t really come across. If the competition early in the year is Samardzija vs. Parisi, I’d like Parisi’s chances (with Marshall slated for pen and Gorzelanny as a starter). Samardzija is the better raw arm, but Parisi is much further along as a starter (leaving aside the debate as to whether or not Samardzija is even a starter).

That said, I still expect the Cubs to make a cheap SP signing or two. Very disappointed we didn’t do what Boston did and land Boof Bonser.

by toonsterwu on Dec 10, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I generally like the idea

of removing rotation depth from St. Louis and adding it to ours. In a soft NL Central, it could end up being a little move like this that has bigger impacts.

Is he traded yet?

by DGU on Dec 10, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions  

I live in Memphis

and he is a pretty good guy and it is a nice gamble to take he has the potential to pan out.

by Cubsfan Waveland on Dec 10, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

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