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Weeeeeee!!!!!! Troughs survive renovation


While we wait for the flush of MB, the sound of modern flushing will not invade hallowed Wrigley.

Trib reports the troughs will survive any bathroom renovation.

As disgusting as they seem, efficiency has its place and I will nominate a ballpark, stadium, or arena as a place where efficiency is most treasured.  Whether a beer drinker or not, we all wait as long as possible before...

Modern urinals spaced like at the United Center would occupy 4-5 customers over 20 feet of wall space.  Historical pig feed devices like the ones at Wrigley can fit as many manly men in a row as shoulders will fit.

Disgusting? Perhaps. Efficient? Absolutely!!!

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The Cubs also offered no explanation as to why the team has decided not to invest in more modern-day urinal technology — say something along the lines of a “Nano Pint Ultra-Low Consumption Urinal System.”

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 10, 2009 4:47 PM CST reply actions  

This is funny. Anyway, no overhaul of the deposit system should be

done until they determine what the overall renovation plans look like.

Anyway, there are so few rest rooms, just keep the lines moving as I could listen to Pat and Ron at home.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Dec 10, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

many men go pee
they do not wait in long lines
most don’t wash their hands

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 10, 2009 4:51 PM CST reply actions  

Dude, don't you know.

Everybody pees.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Dec 10, 2009 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I green pees

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Dec 10, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

is that a haiku?

"I tried to let Ryan know that [jumping over the dugout railing] was a thing that maybe just athletes should stick to." -- Ted Lilly, 28 July 2009

by CaughtInTheVines on Dec 10, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

the answer is yes
if you count the syllables
you will see it is

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Dec 10, 2009 5:35 PM CST up reply actions  

*golf clap*

"I tried to let Ryan know that [jumping over the dugout railing] was a thing that maybe just athletes should stick to." -- Ted Lilly, 28 July 2009

by CaughtInTheVines on Dec 10, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Old Joke

Two men are taking a leak in public bathroom. One of them, a well dressed man goes to wash his hands after and the other one dressed more casually does not. The swell says to the other man " At Harvard they taught us to wash our hands after we urinated", the other man responds “at CCNY they taught not to pee on our hands”

"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
Me either Jim

by Doggie Stalker on Dec 11, 2009 12:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly -

If you follow the exact procedure, showering in the morning should be good.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Dec 11, 2009 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Love.

The. Troughs.

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Dec 10, 2009 4:52 PM CST reply actions  

I remember...

….the first time I saw those things….I was probably 8 or 9, in ‘69 or ’70, and I couldn’t believe it….it was just so alien to anything I’d seen at home, school, or anywhere. Of course, my friends and I thought they were completely badass. Troughs forever, so that future generations can also be warped at an early age!

"I tried to let Ryan know that [jumping over the dugout railing] was a thing that maybe just athletes should stick to." -- Ted Lilly, 28 July 2009

by CaughtInTheVines on Dec 10, 2009 5:14 PM CST reply actions  

You don't see many troughs anymore

and I can still remember my dad holding me up as I stood on the edge to pee. Good memories, hope they stay forever.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:15 PM CST reply actions  

Don't slip!

I anxiously await the reasonable trading of Milton Bradley.
Dum spiro spero... | Follow me on twitter or else: @andrewjstone.

by AndrewJStone on Dec 10, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Fortunately, my dad held on tight.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson

by tucsoncubsfan on Dec 10, 2009 5:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Dodger Stadium restrooms

still have such ‘facilities.’ I always feel that I’ve returned to Wrigley in those rest rooms.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 11, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Industrial urination is the key

When many must go, efficiency triumphs over appearance. The Indianapolis Motor Speedway uses troughs, too.

by ClarkFan on Dec 12, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

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Historical pig feed devices like the ones at Wrigley can fit as many manly men in a row as shoulders will fit.

I love it.

Hooray for CubsStats.blogspot.com !

by BWoodrum on Dec 10, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions  

Now we just need something equally efficent for twozies!

Not to get too gross here (although, in a post about urinals, whats to lose?), but nothing is more annoying than the rare and random occasion you’ve gotta dook at the field.

One of the benefits of the troughs is they keep people honest… the close proximity is a deterrent to “hanging out”. We need something that’ll get the same rate of turnover going in the stalls… i swear people just hang out in there sometimes.

I anxiously await the reasonable trading of Milton Bradley.
Dum spiro spero... | Follow me on twitter or else: @andrewjstone.

by AndrewJStone on Dec 10, 2009 5:52 PM CST reply actions  

Troughs can cause the opposite effect you describe.

There are many men who take longer to “get going” when there in plain sight (perceived or real). When you go, everyone around you knows you go. If you’re stading there for like 5 seconds and nothing happens, then the mind games start up.

“Oh no….everyone knows I’m not going”……“Ugh….now the guy behind me is wondering what’s taking so long”……..“For crying out loud, I’ve been standing here and each row beside me has come and gone three times”…….“I’m outta here, hopefully I can hold it!”

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Dec 11, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

+1

Not that I know anything about that…..(shifty eyes)

It can be intimidating though. You never really think about pressure to go to the bathroom efficiently until there are a bunch of people waiting for you

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher

by Musicdude10 on Dec 11, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks, you guys.

I probably won’t be able to pee for the rest of the day, now.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 11, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I look down in the direction of my bladder and think

“What are you doing, collecting interest?”

Usually works.

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Dec 11, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Validated by a Psychiatrist

A friend of mine who is a psychiatrist says he hears about “stage fright” at the Wrigley troughs from a patient at least once a week during the summer — no joke. We actually were talking about this at a game, and everyone around us was nodding their heads. It slows down the bathroom line.

by Ryan D on Dec 11, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Never would have guessed.

That being said, i grew up with siblings, lived in a house with 12 people in college, and spent a good portion of my formative years in Iowa doing what would have been called “public urination” if i’d grown up in Chicago, so maybe i’m just wired to pee in front of people.

I anxiously await the reasonable trading of Milton Bradley.
Dum spiro spero... | Follow me on twitter or else: @andrewjstone.

by AndrewJStone on Dec 11, 2009 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

i have never had stage fright with taking a pee

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Dec 11, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

It's the troughs?

I understand some have this condition, but I guess I can’t see how the rest rooms at Wrigley make this any worse than any crowded venue restroom

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Dec 11, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

most urinals

especially those with dividers between the urinals, provide some sort of privacy. If you ain’t going while standing in front of a trough, everyone knows it.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Dec 11, 2009 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

those stalls

are for pooping? i thought they were for smoking cigarettes

"I hate to sound like a broken record, but I guess it's better than sounding like a broken mp3 player because then you would'nt hear anything." - Len Kasper

by JMG1984 on Dec 11, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Hilarious.

I work security at Soldier Field (and Wrigley / US Cellular on occasion, as well as many indoor concert venues that are non-smoking).

One of my favorite punishments for employees who piss me off is to put them on smoker patrol. I personally don’t have a problem with it, and i wish the Chicago sporting venues could just have a smoking area so people didn’t have to sneak around (telling 60,000 people, many of whom are drunk, they can’t smoke for 3 hours is redic), but its pretty hilarious to watch some dude sheepishly emerge from a stall after getting busted for sneaking a Parliament at halftime.

I anxiously await the reasonable trading of Milton Bradley.
Dum spiro spero... | Follow me on twitter or else: @andrewjstone.

by AndrewJStone on Dec 11, 2009 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I plan on doing this

to celebrate!

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by Fukudometer on Dec 10, 2009 6:03 PM CST reply actions  

Is that at Wrigley? doesnt look like it to me.

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on Dec 10, 2009 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not.

Whoever posted that as being at Wrigley is wrong.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 11, 2009 7:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if this report is correct.

If they renovate the rest rooms, new building codes say the troughs have to be replaced.
This is what happened out in the bleacher rest rooms, which now have…individual stalls.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 10, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions  

Wrong!

The original men’s room in the bleachers still has troughs. Only the new men’s room has individual urinals.

If they do the same thing with the other ones — i.e., don’t remove the troughs — they don’t have to replace them.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 11, 2009 7:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Congratulations!

You seem awfully proud to know more about the men’s bathrooms in the bleechers than SDSJM……..

jk

The “Wrong!” just struck me as odd.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Dec 11, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Proud? No.

But I’ve used those men’s rooms… a lot.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 11, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok, my mistake

My last 2 visits to the bleachers I’ve only visited the new facility, obviously.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 11, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

How can you call the trough efficient?

At both Yankee Stadium and the Cell, I can go and come back during a changeover. A trip to the bathroom at Wrigley is half inning odyssey (if you’re lucky). Proof point: Take a trip to both bathrooms in the bleachers, and tell me you’ll ever go to the trough side again.

I swear there is some intangible that connects Mayor Daley, the Wrigley troughs, and the El — three things that are empirically horrible by the standard of any other city, but yet somehow trumpeted as wonderful by Chicagoans.

by Ryan D on Dec 10, 2009 10:19 PM CST reply actions  

They are by square footage.

If they redo the grandstand in a major upgrade to the facility and have room to expand the footprint of the rest rooms, I assume they’ll eliminate the troughs. If the Cubs took the existing facilities, tore out the toughs and installed urinals to Chicago code on spacing and whatever, the lines would go all the way back to your seat.

at daver's request, Let's frontload this B**ch!

by N Oakley on Dec 11, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

A fair point....

… if there is code around spacing of urinals. Is there?? At the old Yankee Stadium the urinals were right on top of each other, and the line cruised.

I am officially laughing to myself that this thread is going on!

by Ryan D on Dec 11, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

They must do that, per new building codes

and long, long lines are a hallmark of the new Petco Park due to modern building codes, with big crowds. Honestly, the lines in the old Wrigley facilities are actually shorter and move faster.

I think those who have been to Soldier Field should agree. The 19th century rest rooms had shorter lines, but one could catch strange diseases.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 11, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

hahah, I love those

remember watching a video on youtube about a guy bodysurfing across one. glad they r stayinhq

Wrigley Bound in the Summer of 2010

by Chanman25 on Dec 11, 2009 8:55 AM CST reply actions  

About that YouTube video.

Though it SAYS it’s a Wrigley trough, it’s not.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 11, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

aww..looks like I have to go do it then myself

see yall at wrigley!

Wrigley Bound in the Summer of 2010

by Chanman25 on Dec 11, 2009 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll bring the camera phone

"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Dec 11, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I once was explaining to my wife the troughs at Wrigley

and she asked me with a completely straight face “don’t you end up getting splashed on by the guy across from you?” I had to further explain that the troughs are against the wall, hence no “dueling”.

"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin

by davidalanu on Dec 11, 2009 10:25 AM CST reply actions  

Oh man

Makes me wonder what my misses thinks when I try to explain stuff…

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Dec 11, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

If she's anything like my wife,

she just hears Charlie Brown’s teacher. Whaa waaa waaa waaa waa waaa…

"Dad gum right this games gonna be played under protest. . . I guarantee this is gonna be one protest that's upheld." --Hawk Harrelson, 6/24/07

by RynoHoF on Dec 11, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

hahahahah

thats the funniest thing i’ve heard all day

"I hate to sound like a broken record, but I guess it's better than sounding like a broken mp3 player because then you would'nt hear anything." - Len Kasper

by JMG1984 on Dec 11, 2009 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Dueling - Sounds like a hit from the early 70s

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Dec 12, 2009 5:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Dueling - Sounds like a hit from the early 70s

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Dec 12, 2009 5:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

IPhone fail - sorry about the duel reply

Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -

by eths on Dec 12, 2009 5:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I pictured them the same way from what my husband said.

Good to hear you are not facing each other although it still sounds gross. I won’t mind waiting in a line for a stall so much after reading this.

"Fasten those seatbelts"-Pat Hughes

by katie casey on Dec 13, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

my first

trough experience was at old Soldier Field when I was 9. there was a guy standing next to me with one of those Bear earflap hats. He had half-eaten hot dog hanging out of his mouth, a beer in one hand, and his member in the other. I remember thinking “so that’s what multi-tasking is” and also “how can that hot dog taste good? it smells like crap in here!”

"I hate to sound like a broken record, but I guess it's better than sounding like a broken mp3 player because then you would'nt hear anything." - Len Kasper

by JMG1984 on Dec 11, 2009 2:55 PM CST reply actions  

lol

"I hate to sound like a broken record, but I guess it's better than sounding like a broken mp3 player because then you would'nt hear anything." - Len Kasper

by JMG1984 on Dec 13, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

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