Tell Me About Ryno
I did a similar post here about Ernie Banks where I noted in the first sentence that I wasn't looking at starting a series. But I'm bored and finals are not what I want to be focused on at the moment.
Al also noted in the Banks post that there are links on the sidebar of the 100 best players in Cubs history. I like those links but I love personal stories too. So that's what I'm looking for. I'm not old enough to remember Ryno or his time in a Cubs jersey and wasn't alive for his best years at Wrigley. So I'm hoping for some insight. I know about the stats and the trophies and the hall of fame. I'm looking for the nostalgia, the "I remember when..." type of stories. They can be ones that happened at the ball park or if you met him outside of the Friendly Confines. But on a gloomy day like today in Chicago, I was thinking I could get some stories that would warm my heart. So please, enlighten me on the man known as Ryno.
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The original #23 Chicago jersey.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
"Original"?
You mean after Jim Tracy wore it, right?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I was thinking more along the lines of "good" players...
…Ryno…Jordan…
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
...Jerry Azumah
…and the man who replaced Jerry… What’s his name?
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
by 14theofleury on Dec 14, 2009 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I grew up watching Sandberg ...
but my family lived in Montana, so seeing him play in person was almost impossible. But in 1994, my dad bought us tickets to see the Cubs in Denver AND in Chicago. Unfortunately, Sandberg retired about a month before the first game.
Two years later, I was in San Diego, and had tickets to a Cubs game at Jack Murphy. Sandberg had returned from retirement, and I figured I would finally get to see him play in person.
But Sandberg was injured, and didn’t start. I was really disappointed. But the game went into extra innings. Sandberg came up as a pinch-hitter in the 15th, and drove in the go-ahead run.
The Cubs’ pen blew the lead in the bottom half, but the Cubs won it in the 16th (sorry, if some of my details are off — it’s been 13 years). But it was pretty cool. The one hit I saw Sandberg get in person nearly won a game.
Professional
quiet, smooth, rarely made a throwing error or for that matter any other errors, was critizied for not diving after balls ( Joe Morgan ), excellent baserunner, pulled the ball, and was to extent screwed by Larry Himes the GM at the time that screwed Maddux .
Just a wonderful player.
In his book
it stated that he did not see eye to eye with Himes over the Maddux contract situation. Sandberg made it know that Maddux was treated poorly.
Along with that and the divorce of his wife he lost the zeal for the game and retired to soon only to come back. Mike Jacksons breaking of his wrist in the spring of 1993 did not help either.
Himes was a jackass and from what I could get the players knew it also. Maybe I was a little strong with “screwed” but lets just say helped Ryno make the retirement call the first time.
The "Sandberg game" of June 23, 1984...
… was one of the greatest regular-season games I have ever attended.
Before that game, Sandberg was seen as a good player, a solid regular, but hardly HoF material. Hitting not one, but two game-tying HR off the man considered the best closer in the game at the time (Bruce Sutter) got him noticed on a national level.
The game itself was electric, and nearly over when Bob Dernier got a break on a close 3-2 pitch that was ruled ball four. Sandberg hit the next pitch into the LF bleachers to tie the game.
We knew we were seeing something special that day.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Better look quick before MLB pulls it from YouTube.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
I just saw it on MLB,
then I saw a game that Mark Fidrych pitched in for the Tigers…..strange guy, I heard a little about him but never saw him. One of the announcers sounded real familiar to me but I’m drawing a blank. Do you know? I think the year was ’76….
A woman's guess is more accurate than a man's certainty.--Rudyard Kipling
by cooliogirl47 on Dec 14, 2009 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
The Bird just passed away here in the last year or two...
…farming accident I believe.
Is there a link?
by TheHawkRules on Dec 14, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Truck repair accident
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mark-fidrych-54-found-dead-beneath-dump-truck-1.1218884
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
by 14theofleury on Dec 14, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
I read that his clothes got caught on a thing (dont know what) that turned and it choked him. A cranking thing or a driving shaft???
A woman's guess is more accurate than a man's certainty.--Rudyard Kipling
by cooliogirl47 on Dec 14, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
after I saw the game I just looked him up online...
the game I saw he beat the Yankees, I think 5-0, in Detroit, and I think it was his rookie year. ( I was getting dressed for work so I was watching off and on) He talked to himself or the ball the whole game, shook players hands when they made a good play…..it was cool. I would have liked to see him in person. The fans loved him.
A woman's guess is more accurate than a man's certainty.--Rudyard Kipling
by cooliogirl47 on Dec 14, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Warner Wolf, Bob Prince, Bob Uecker
That was the announcing crew for that ABC Monday night baseball game. On the telecast, they mentioned that the other ABC game that night was between the Pirates and the Cubs. Like the idiot I am, I wondered if that game was at Wrigley or not. Duh? It was 1976, and there were no lights at Wrigley. It was in Pittsburgh.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
thanks, it had to be Uecker's voice then.
A woman's guess is more accurate than a man's certainty.--Rudyard Kipling
by cooliogirl47 on Dec 15, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
if/when it gets pulled
the homers can be found right here
This Chicago Cubs team is currently Aaron free. Keep it that way, please.
by jesus christos on Dec 14, 2009 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
The funny thing about that game
Dave Owen, who had trouble hitting his way out of a wet paper bag, delivered the game winning pinch hit—a little floater over the infield. It had to be the biggest hit of his career.
by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Dec 14, 2009 2:49 PM CST reply actions
It was almost the ONLY hit of his career.
He had 27 major league hits (in 139 AB) for a .194 BA. The RBI was one of only 16.
Dave was the brother of Spike Owen, who had a 13-year career (mostly for Seattle, Boston and Montreal) and was a decent defensive SS. He was the starting SS for the 1986 Red Sox AL championship team.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
That game will always be my greatest regret as a Cub fan..
…as I turned down a chance to go because I’d been out late the night before and didn’t feel like getting up early to stand in line for bleacher tickets.
To this day the friends of mine who went still like to remind me of my “sound” decision making that day.
by bluekoolaide on Dec 14, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh!
Yeah dude… you ought to feel bad on that one! lol ;O)
by TheHawkRules on Dec 14, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
No doubt
25 years later and it STILL hurts!
by bluekoolaide on Dec 14, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
Dismal SS Hitting in 1984
That trio of Larry Bowa, Tom Veryzer, and Dave Owen was absolutely dreadful hitting the baseball. Defensively, they were okay but not worthy of Gold Glove consideration.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
In my gradeschool days
Ryno was ruling Cubs world. My mom’s maiden name is Sandberg, so I’d tell all the kids at school the he’s my uncle. It made me quite popular… and also a liar.
Dare I give the Cubs my heart again?
by digitalbenjamin on Dec 14, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions
Check out his HOF speech?
it in a fairly recent thread about his promotion.
anyone remeber these quirks?
-him blowing bubbles with bubblegum in the field and at the plate (i don’t think he chewed tabacky.)
-that and the little hop on his right leg he’d do when he’d foul one off or miss.
"Anyone on our team that thinks we are cursed will be moved to a lesser-cursed team"
-Tom Ricketts
Never met him, but...
I watched him play in person and on TV many times.
Classy guy, solid all-around ballplayer, handled second base like he was born there, hit for average and power, just went out and did it, day after day, year after year.
One of the best, if not the best, to ever play the game at second base .
Ryno in Peoria
Ryno was the Chiefs manager for a couple of years and before EVERY home game, he would sign autographs for anyone who lined up. There was always a line. He made sure that it did not interfere with the pregame routines and would stop when he needed to get back to preparing for the game. I heard many stories of people around the area who ran into him when he was out and he was always gracious.
MIlwaukee is Chicago's largest suburb
Another Ryno memory for me...
…was the terrible start he had as a rookie third baseman for the Cubs in 1982. If memory serves, he started the season something like 1 for his first 24. The sportswriters were clamoring for the Cubs to send him to the minors but since, “luckily”, the Cubs were a terrible team in full scale rebuilding mode, they could afford to be a little more patient with Ryno and let him at least try to work though his growing pains on the major league level.
It worked too as he ended up hitting .271, scoring 103 runs and ending up third in the balloting for rookie of the year.
Terrible Aprils
It seemed as if Ryno continued to have bad Aprils even after he established himself as an All-Star second baseman.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
Good point
Sandberg was the classic “slow starter” for most of his career.
by bluekoolaide on Dec 16, 2009 8:15 AM CST up reply actions
Just for the record...
… after the game of April 16, 1982, Sandberg was 1-for-30 — hitting .033/.091/.033, a .124 OPS. He was hitless in his first two AB on April 17 to make him 1-for-32 before getting two hits in that game.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Other than the "Roy Hobbs" game of the week vs STL
I most remember Sandberg for his gracefulness. Grace may have had the name at first, but it was really in spades at second. Ryno had a quiet everyday professionalism about him, a day-in/day-out quality that might be lost on those who only tuned into an occasional game, but he was a joy to those who watched him over the course of a season. I’m sure if he did back flips in the field like Ozzie Smith or arm-pit pumps at bat like Joe Morgan he would have been a first ballet HoFer, but Sandberg was never flamboyant, just steady and unrelenting and almost seemed to have reached perfection in some ways, at least in the field. Sandberg was a quiet-seeming guy, like Robin Yount, both of whom had long, distinguished HoF careers without incident or controversy, a quality I find sadly underappreciated considering how me-fist/look-at-me so many big-name athletes are or have become. Give me Sanberg ranging out to shallow RF on a ground ball and flinging it to an eagerly waiting Grace and making it seem like nothing every day of the week.
Hopefully my next memory of him will be winning a WS as the Cubs manager.
"I'd rather hit home runs you don't have to run as hard." -- Dave Kingman
by BucknerKongCardenal on Dec 14, 2009 11:59 PM CST reply actions
Turning the DP
I always check in but I can’t even remember the last time I posted. But I’ll post for Ryno though. He was a “throw in” in a trade (that sent DeJesus to the Phils) and went “1 for his first 32” as a rookie in ’82. There was definitely pressure to sit him down but the Cubs stayed with him at 3rd and later moved him tom 2nd base.
Everything others have said is true. Professional, solid, consistent, quiet but determined. He was a great offensive 2nd baseman of course, but I loved his defense. He had tremendous range and would get to balls that seemed headed for the outfield…. but he would do it in stride and in position to throw (and every throw was right where Grace wanted it).
I was a Cubs fan in grade school when the ‘69 team broke my heart, but I loved that team. Even at that Ryno is one of my all time favorite Cubs, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 2nd basemen turn a DP pivot and throw as quickly, smoothly, and with a stronger or more accurate throw than Ryno.
That’s what I remember.
Just A Quibble, But...
I thought Robby Thompson with the Giants turned the DP better than Ryno. Ryno was good at it but not as good as Thompson. There’s no question that Ryno was a better all-around defensive second baseman, though. Ryno deserved all of the gold gloves he got.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
Simply the classiest player I ever saw
I also regularly check in but rarely post. That being said, I could not pass up the chance to comment on Ryno. He was my favorite player throughout my childhood and I consider myself lucky to have chosen a player of such great ability and character (I decided in 1982 during the terrible slump that he was going to be my favorite). While he played he was very quiet and professional but I think his real character came through during his Hall of Fame speech. He took a stand on the direction he saw the game going instead of just spouting the usual platitudes. I flew in from Philly to see the game when Ryno’s number was retired and I was so impressed to see him walking through the stands afterwards just thanking people for everything.
What I remember
was his range. He has been criticized about not diving. I remember being in Houston for a game and Sandberg got hurt and was replaced by Tom Veryzer. It was amazing to watch the balls that Sandberg got to and that Veryzer could not.
Sandberg didn’t dive because he didn’t have to. Hey, when you’re as short as Joe Morgan you have to dive for every ball.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)
Sandberg's Range
With apologies to Roberto Alomar, Sandberg had the best range of any second basemen I’ve ever seen. I know some will say Sandberg got to so many balls because of the high grass at Wrigley. I didn’t see the visiting 2B’s get to those same type of balls playing on the same grass at Wrigley. I think Alomar was a slightly better hitter than Ryno, but Ryno was slightly better with the glove than Alomar.
"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray
Remember a game at Wrigley in 1990
My wife and I were passing through town and I got her to go. July, but the wind was blowing in hard and it was really, really cold – hit the concessions for two sweatshirts when all the clothes we had brought weren’t enough (we had been warm in Milwaukee!).
The Cubs won because Sandberg somehow managed to hit two homers. I swear those balls only went out because both were line drives that never got above the windbreak from the bleachers.

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