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Chicago Sports Historic Photos: Wrigley Field History

Obviously, these players aren't Cubs. Follow me after the jump to discuss the significance of this photo.

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This photo was taken on the date of the last NFL game played at Wrigley Field, a 35-17 Bears win over the Packers on December 13, 1970. Wrigley Field held the record for hosting the most regular-season NFL games (365) until 2003. Giants Stadium passed it that year, but only because both the Giants and Jets played there. Lambeau Field surpassed the 50 seasons that Wrigley hosted football (1921-70) in 2007.

#51 should be instantly recognizable to you as Hall of Famer Dick Butkus. #11 is quarterback Jack Concannon, who that day threw for 338 yards and four touchdowns. (#67 is lineman George Seals, and the Packers' #29 is defensive back Al Matthews.) Note the "C" on the helmets was plain white -- the orange stripe within the "C" on the Bears helmet logo wasn't added until a couple of years later. In fact, there was a time when Bobby Douglass was the starting QB when the Bears seriously considered changing their helmet color to orange so that Douglass could see his receivers better (he was famous for overthrowing just about everyone).

What's also fascinating about this photo is what you see in the background. Behind the LF catwalk are -- well, what are those? Curtains? Some sort of windscreen? (Doubtful, with the holes in it.) If anyone here attended Bears games in the last few years at Wrigley Field, can you tell us what those were?

Remember, if you want high-quality prints of any of these historic photos, email Leo Bauby at this address.

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I would have absolutely hated

to be hit by Dick Butkus. That’s assuming I lived through the experience!!

by Fonzie2178 on Dec 22, 2009 8:05 AM CST reply actions  

That is a sweet picture!

Butkus just looks like he wants to hurt people every time I see him in picture or film.

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by goodstuff96 on Dec 22, 2009 8:06 AM CST reply actions  

Layout of Football field

I would love to see an overhead photo of the football layout at Wrigley. It would have to be very cramped, because I don’t believe any of the seating is retractable. How were the bleacher seats for football?

by perseman on Dec 22, 2009 9:04 AM CST reply actions  

They put temporary bleachers in right field for football.

It looked like this:

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

ask and ye shall receieve

they used a temporary structure of some sort on the RF side. also, I’ve read that Halas put up a chair at the end of every row to squeeze more people in.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Dec 22, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL

We found the same photo. Also, the end zones were only eight yards long, not ten.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

as cool as it would be

the more I look at Wrigley Field the less I think it’s possible that they will ever be able to do the NU-UI football game there that they were talking about.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Dec 22, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

What they are talking about doing...

… if they do that NU game, is to place the field from home plate to CF, instead of the layout in the photos above.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

right

I remember that. I still don’t know that it would work though. I would think that it would get real tight in the corners of the endzone on the home plate side.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Dec 22, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Probably so.

But it would be the only way to do it and have a legitimate-length football field — as noted above, doing it the way they have it in the photos above would result in end zones that would be too short.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Where did you get that info on the end zones?

The SE corner end zone was cut off because it would run into the baseball visitors dugout. The LF foul line is 355’ (plus accounting for the well) and it looks like most of the South end zone is in baseball foul territory.

Zoom in on the pic. Even though its a bit blurry, it seems to me the end zones are 10 yards deep except for the SE corner.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Dec 22, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't find a link right now.

But I recall reading from many different sources that the Wrigley Field end zones were not regulation size.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I love this picture

My favorite Bear ever. No one can ever replace your childhood sports heroes.

by rlpete on Dec 22, 2009 9:29 AM CST reply actions  

Yes.

We all loved George Seals. :)

by the nth on Dec 22, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

What?

Yours’ wasn’t Jack Concannon like mine?

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Dec 22, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Ed O'Bradovich, FTW!

:-)

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by CaughtInTheVines on Dec 22, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I remember we always used to...

… yell for the Bears to replace whatever QB was sucking at the time, with backup Larry Rakestraw.

I looked it up. Rakestraw played in 12 NFL games in his three-year career.

Great football name, though.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Typo.

13 games. But he still wasn’t very good.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Can we still do that?

It’s not like whatever QB was sucking at the time has changed

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Dec 22, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

It's hard to argue that the Bears would have been any worse...

… if Caleb Hanie had started every game this year.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

This comment would have been better...

… in this fanpost which is actually about that exact topic.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, not really, since the fanpost states that in the first place

So it would just be redundant in there without additional commentary.

;-)

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by Shanghai Badger on Dec 22, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

LOL

True. Still, it doesn’t really belong here.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

A couple of points of interest

My father had a pair season tickets that were actually in a junket of 8 from my “Godfather” who played a couple seasons on the Bears in the late 40’s but got hurt, Halas gave him the tic’s for one season but he had to buy them who got them each successive season. Marv started a sporting goods store where my father was a friend-investor and got the tics through that exchange, store failed but the kept the tickets and bought them as a junket. They were in the RF temporary bleachers, good seats then, 35 yard line (north end). Before the North Shore Line closed one could catch it in Waukegan just before Noon (Express) and be in your seat by 1PM.

You used be able to bring in food and beverages and the junket commissioned a down blanket to cover all those sitting in the section for colder games. The screen on the north end my father recalls was installed to block the wind (AND a few roof toppers watching the game on Waveland).

As for Butkus when the Bears sucked some of the best moments was watching him intimidate and tee off on the center during punting and FG/extra points. He would get a running start trying to anticipate the snap and drive in and under the vulnerable snapper and then lift him up and onto his back. They later changed the rule not allowing this kind of inside play where if you hit a snapper you had to be in a three/four point stance.

During punts Butkus also took homage on the punter often chasing him around the field.

When the Bears moved to Soldier Field my father’s seats suddenly got worse, pushed down to the 15 yrd line where the sight lines and experience was nothing like Wrigley. As a kid at Wrigley I could remember watching Sayers, Buffone, Dick Gordan, and getting a monster Corn Beef on Rye in a bar/restaurant on Addison called the “End Zone”.

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Dec 22, 2009 10:16 AM CST reply actions  

That must be how we got to Cubs games way back when.

We used to live in Waukegan when until I was almost six. Those were the days. Dad had a ‘67 Galaxie two-door sedan, and we’d fly at 85 MPH down the Interstate to Louisville to visit the grandparents. He’d throw a crib mattress back there in case we wanted to snooze, make us pee in beer bottles (PBR or Schlitz in returnables, ’natch), and generally put up with us being royal pains in the buttocks the whole way down. And back. Especially back.

Once a year, we would get to see the Cubs play a weekend doubleheader. I had little recollection what was going on; I was just glad to be there.

Yankees suck.

by Steaming Pile on Dec 22, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey I lived in Waukegan too.

and taking the train was how I got to Wrigley. Only saw a couple of games as a kid. Somehow became more of hardcore fan after moving to MN.

GoCubsGo

by MinnesotaFan on Dec 22, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

This picture of Wrigley also gives you a good view

of the open area that used to be in the right field corner into the 60s. That’s where they used to drag the batting cages after batting practice. If you walked along the main aisle out to the fence by Sheffield, you would just look down into a big cement area with batting cages and grounds crew equipment.

For football, the seats in front of the area were blocked by the temporary bleachers and covered with the tarp. Obviously the temporary stands in right couldn’t be put up up until the Cubs were done playing so any preseason games at Wrigley were played with fans sitting distantly in the right field bleachers. I did that once in ‘66 or ’67. Not a great view to be sure. Especially with the opposing team’s bench between you and the field.

The fact that the Bears couldn’t play a home game until October meant they had to play their first three and sometimes even four games on the road before coming home to Wrigley. In a 14 game schedule that can put you in a hell of a hole. Of course, so could having Bobby Douglass and Larry Rakestraw as your quarterbacks.

by the nth on Dec 22, 2009 10:41 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

That photo was likely taken in 1968 or 1969.

That area was still under construction, as they were turning the RF corner seats so they would face the plate. The area was eventually filled in as it is now, but not until 1970 or so.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

"The fact that the Bears couldn’t play a home game until October"

I’m not nearly the die-hard Cubs fan that a lot of you are, but reading that made me sigh wistfully. I can only imagine what it does to you old-timers…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Dec 22, 2009 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, the postseason wasn't so wacky then

As late as 1968 there was just the regular season and the World Series – so baseball would be done by October 10 or so.

by ChipSet on Dec 22, 2009 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember

going to a Bears game during a December blizzard as a kid. Had standing room tickets behind the grandstand. Froze, but thought I was having fun.

Don’t remember the opponent or whether the Bears won or lost.

Haven’t cared in many years.

by Clark Addison on Dec 22, 2009 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

Great picture

Even Butkus’ teammates had reason to fear him.

“Please don’t hit me for that incompletion!”

"But it doesn't matter what I do, what I choose. I'm what's wrong. This is fate" - Dexter season 4....I mean Lovie season 6.

by propheteer on Dec 22, 2009 11:46 AM CST reply actions  

LOL

Based on the dirt on the uniforms, I’m guessing that photo was taken either at halftime or after the game.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I think those were windscreens -- BECAUSE of the holes...

I’ve hung many professional banners that have ‘slits’ or holes in them to let the breeze pass through…..that’s common practice to keep such banners from ripping in high winds. I think that why the holes are in the tarps.

Of course, knowing the miserly ways of George Halas, perhaps he was making sure there was NO way to see into Wrigley Field to catch the game for free.

The bleachers in RF effectively stopped any rooftop viewing.

But, I believe the tarps ARE windscreens.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 22, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

I've heard that when the Bears played at Wrigley....

they used it for games AND practices. This was obviously before they were based in Lake Forest. How they ever got the field ready for baseball is beyond me, if it was completely destroyed by the end of the football season, then the worst part of winter sets in, and they had to have it ready by April. Had to be a groundskeeping nightmare.

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by ctcoff99 on Dec 22, 2009 12:38 PM CST reply actions  

I remember right field...

… having many dead spots on the grass early in the season, until the Bears moved out.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

And that was because BOTH teams were in front of the erector-set

bleachers built over the RF bleachers. Both teams trudging up and down the sidelines had to screw the grass horribly — and probably they had to support those bleachers into the grass too — digging into RF. (No team bench along the west sideline , because they would have blocked the view of all the box seat patrons. You can clearly see that from the aerial shots.)

Those same bleachers moved to the old Soldier Field when the Bears moved. They should have been condemned, as friends who sat in those bleachers have related to me…..

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 22, 2009 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I sat in those bleachers in 1973.

They were definitely horrible. Eventually they built permanent seats in the north end zone at Soldier Field.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

My brother was born on the same day as this game -

Mom was born in Green Bay so we were raised as Packers fans – for his 39th birthday this year he finally got revenge for the shellacking the Pack took back then

by doofus cubs guy on Dec 22, 2009 12:53 PM CST reply actions  

Look

at the far right upper side. I think that is Ivy Walls.

Trade Doug Deeds to Washington.

by wild bill on Dec 22, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions  

I think if you look at some of the pix that Al has posted lately

 — and some of them are early in various seasons….you can still see the worn-out football damage in LF. I seriously doubt if ANYTHING was done to the field except to cover it when it rained and run a mower over it. Re sodding? Doubtful.

I don’t think field standards were of importance to anybody in that era.

If I recall, the old metal ‘slots’ that the goal posts were fastened to were uncovered during the recent rebuild of the field.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 22, 2009 12:57 PM CST reply actions  

You're correct about the goalpost supports.

They were found near first base.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

That's pretty cool

A useless but fun buried treasure :)

"This next song... it's about the White Sox. It's called: F*** Em'." - Eddie Vedder

by PacificCub on Dec 22, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

The Cubs threw it out.

I’m surprised they didn’t try to auction it off at the Cubs Convention. Could have raised quite a bit of money for Cubs Care.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Or even sent it along to Canton, OH

Maybe they’d want it?

"This next song... it's about the White Sox. It's called: F*** Em'." - Eddie Vedder

by PacificCub on Dec 22, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably so.

Too late now.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 22, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Sometimes it's amazing thinking about the things we keep...

thinking they are valuable and then those things we throw away thinking they aren’t.

One person’s junk is another person’s treasure I guess…

Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...

by Zeke on Dec 23, 2009 6:19 AM CST up reply actions  

you sure they were thrown out?

I thought somebody (or some group/organization) ended up with them. I remember it was pretty big news when the Cubs found them so it seems it’d be kinda hard to just throw them out.

Or maybe all the “news” came out well after the fact?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Dec 23, 2009 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Screens?

Keep the kicks from going onto Waveland?

Years ago there were no nets to stop the footballs from going into the stands. I remember my Dad telling me about the 1940 NFL championship game in DC. He was visiting the East coast and managed to score a ticket to that December game.

When the Bears scored their final TD of the 73-0 blowout, officials asked them to run or throw for the extra point because they were nearly out of footballs due to all the extra point kicks going into the stands.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Dec 22, 2009 1:03 PM CST reply actions  

some of the kicks went out onto Waveland anyway

always fun talking to the old-timer ballhawks about trying to catch extra-points out there. Footballs didn’t make it all the way out to Waveland on a regular basis, but often enough that some guys would hang out there, just in case.

The way they tell the stories, every time there was a touchdown in that end of the field, the guys that were out there would all be thinking the same thing – “C’mon, hurry up. Hurry up and kick the extra point. C’mon, c’mon let’s go!!!”

Reason being is that right after the touchdown, lots of big burly men would come lumbering out of Murphy’s from the left and Bernie’s from the right, and they would converge on Waveland & Kenmore, trying to get there in time for the extra point. And yes, most times, they would be well-lubricated with alcohol. Catching the football was hard enough – but hanging on to it was the real challenge. You had to catch it quick and run like hell.

Sorry I missed all the fun – I didn’t get here until 1990. Would have liked to have seen some of those scrums.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Dec 22, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

To my recollection (and I only saw 2 Bears games at Wrigley)

…all PAT’s and FG’s went sailing onto Waveland, and also into the 1B seating areas. I don’t recall any screens.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Dec 22, 2009 5:57 PM CST reply actions  

sadly I cannot ask my Aunt's father-in-law who passed

since he had played at Wrigley while a Bear and Packer

sure it was a two year career of not a whole lot, but he had the NFL pin, and could honestly say he made it.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Dec 23, 2009 12:03 AM CST reply actions  

So is this 7th photo an homage to "football"'s TD + PAT = 7 points Al?

Seems appropriate.

BTW, I love seeing Dick & Jack again. These were the NFL guys I watched on Sundays (not the Lions).

And for whatever reason, I loved watching games in the late 1960s and early 1970s with Oakland’s George Blanda. I always rooted for him and the Raiders when they played their arch nemesis: the Kansas City Chiefs.

I don’t know why. I couldn’t care less about either team now…

Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...

by Zeke on Dec 23, 2009 6:24 AM CST reply actions  

Blanda started his career with the Bears.

Given the quality of most QB’s after he left, it’s a pretty good argument that they might have won more championships in the ’60s with him.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 23, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't think they would have won any more with Blanda in the 60s.

They just weren’t a very good team. The ‘65 Bears were the best of the lot but put themselves in a hole by losing their first three games. (Those damn road games at the start of the season when they played at Wrigley) Rudy Bukich was their quarterback that year and I think he led the league in passing so it’s hard to see how Blanda would have made too much of a difference that season. They blew their last game of the season to the Vikings (I was at the game – As I recall Minnesota scored three TDs in the fourth quarter) If they had won they would have been 10-4 and I still don’t think that would have been good enough to make the playoffs. (Not as many teams in the playoffs back then)

In ‘68, with the playoffs expanded a bit, the Bears had a chance to squeak in the last day of the season but lost to the Packers. That was the year Sayers was hurt and there’s no way they would have gone anywhere even if they’d made the playoffs and Johnny Unitas was the QB.

by the nth on Dec 23, 2009 12:21 PM CST reply actions  

Point taken.

And then they screwed themselves by going 1-13 in 1969. How? The one team they beat was the Steelers, who also went 1-13. At that time draft ties were broken by coin flip. The Bears lost the flip.

The Steelers drafted some unknown kid QB named Bradshaw.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 23, 2009 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, you're right about the 1965 playoffs.

Only the division winners made the playoffs. The Packers and Colts (then in the “old” NFL) tied at 10-3-1 and played a tiebreaker game. The Bears still would have been short at 10-4.

The Bears lost that Vikings game 24-17 when Bukich threw an interception that was returned for a TD.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 23, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

The irony of those Bear teams in '66, '67 and '68 is that

they had the greatest defensive and offensive players in all of football, and very little else. Talk about a team that got off the bus running – I finally had time to look at some stats. In 1968, the year they had a chance to make the playoffs on the last day of the season, Dick Gordon led the team in receptions with 29! Brian Piccolo was next with 28.

But through the 8+ games that Sayers played, he was averaging over 6 yards per carry. Even Ralph Kurek, who I remember as sucking, was over 4 yards per carry. Piccolo was over 3.5 which given the current state of the Bears, sounds downright wonderful.

by the nth on Dec 24, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

If Sayers hadn't had the knee injuries...

… he’d likely have set all kinds of rushing records.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 24, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

The irony of that is,

For many years, the Packers started every season playing two or three home games before heading on the road, and almost always finished the season playing Los Angeles and San Francisco in the last two weeks of the season.

And, even when the playoffs expanded, not all the best teams got in. In 1967, the first year of the expansion, the Baltimore Colts beat both the Packers and Dallas Cowboys, who played for the NFL Title that year in the “Ice Bowl.” And yet, the Colts didn’t make the playoffs because the Los Angeles Rams finished with the same record, and had the head-to-head tiebreaker.

As if that wasn’t enough, the Colts and Rams both had better records than the Packers and Cowboys. I believe Baltimore and Los Angeles finished 1967 with 12-1-1 records, while Green Bay went 9-4-1 and Dallas went 9-5.

Bound for New York City: January 6-9! Can't wait!

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Dec 24, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

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