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by SoN of a GuN on Dec 24, 2009 10:20 AM CST
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ok so i just saw that Capps is goinfg to the Nationals. Are the Cubs going to make any deals this off season to make the dang team better. Is it me or do I not see any production from front office in attempting anything.
do they really think that they are going to get anywhere with our current bunch of giveruppers. We need to get another hot bat or a middle relief. I am still not convinced that Marmol is going to get the job done but i sincerely hope so.
I understand that getting rid of Bradley was priority but I mean come on. We missed out on a good number of free agents that we could have worked with. There would have been nothing wrong with moving players around in the field.
Coco Crisp was missed.....We could have even reaquired Pierre. Why not go after Jason Bay or Matt Holiday.
I heard a reporter say that the Cubs have gone after the big names in the past and recently. Well we should continue that trend and try and get one of these big shots left since we have already missed out on quite a few.
I know im dreaming to get the Bay or Holiday but it is the Holidays.......
Hey Hendry.....Wake up dude.
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I'm a little foggy on cold medicine right now.
It’s a little disorienting, but it sure helps. Maybe I’ll feel well enough to make something for lunch pretty soon.
On second thought, maybe I’ll just read a book by the fireplace. Yeah, that’s probably more likely. SpikeHD is running the original Star Wars trilogy right now, I guess that looks pretty good, too. Oh wait, Coachella Music Festival highlights on Palladia! Oh damn, Fischerspooner? Back to Star Wars then…
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I love those guys. Math Geeks make a rock band!
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
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"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
The Cubs may not have gotten Crisp,
but it is a stretch to say he will be missed. Better to make no deal than a bad deal wouldn’t you say?
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 24, 2009 10:58 AM CST reply actions
Capps, Crisp, Pierre.
Are you sure Jim Hendry is the one who needs to wake up?
(Actually, Capps may have been a decent addition to the bullpen, but it’s not like we missed out on all that much.)
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
I did like his use of the word "dang".
You don’t see that much any more.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Well Gosh Darn
Jimmney, if that what you flippin wanted, well schucks let me just throw these dodo words at ya
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
by Ditkavsworld
oh rats!
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
Crud
the kids at the school i teach at have been using that one quite a bit lately, cracks me up.
by circuitclout on Dec 24, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
gee willikers, that sounds like a hoot!
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
great googlie mooglie
this is some tally waggin tomfoolery
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Great Scott!
Just had to throw that in there
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Capps was the only one of those three
that I thought might actually help the team, but I am not mourning the fact that he chose to go elsewhere.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 24, 2009 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
In today's paper
Beane is quoted as saying he likes the four OFs he has in house right now. Crisp will play CF, Sweeney in RF, Davis in LF, with Hairston backing them up. He sees Crisp and Davis at the top of the order, so it looks like Beane is not looking to deal Davis anytime soon as some here speculated he might after getting Crisp. .
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 24, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Doesn't Stan count as an acquistion?
Looks like he can catch. I think he could play Centerfield. No fear of the brick wall for Stan.
Jason Bay?
tell me its a joke.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
No he could play CF
Sheshya, and maybe monkey’s will fly out my butt.
That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.
by Ditkavsworld
You don't think Jason Bay could nelp this team?
I mean he is no MB but come on.
Stick him in RF and move Dome to CF. He has got to be a better fielder than Soriano, I might be…
But they don’t have the money for him. We will be stuck with crap like Marlon Byrd.
you burn soriano for being an awful defensemen
but want to put bay in RF?
hahah
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
You think Sori is a good LF?
We need some offense on this team. How much good pitching must continue to go to waste. Bay is a better OF than Soriano-leave Bay in LF then. Soriano can go to right….That’s right he can’t handle it.
Bay has been pretty clutch, besides ARam we don’t have much of that.
I would deal with the defense to get him.
What is your solution? Marlon Byrd?
im quite positive i never said i thought soriano was a good LF
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Bay makes Soriano look like a gold glover
stay far away from Bay
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
You are nuts-but good to see you are still following me around when you said you were not anymore.
You and Drew think Sori is a good fielder……WOW!
never said Sorinao is a good fielder
i said Bay makes him look good.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
good thing we dont construct a team on what you think
with your inability to understand common stats, hell you cant ever properly quote someone let alone understand such things
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
there you go again
putting words in people’s mouths.
Forget all that other stuff. I gotta believe.
by drewishdrewid on Dec 24, 2009 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Try reading what he actually posted before popping off
He never said or even implied Soriano is a good LF, but he did imply (correctly) that Bay would be a bad RF. He’s a bad LF so it is logical to assume he would be worse in RF. An outfield with Soriano and Bay in the corners is a defensive nightmare. Is the picture getting any clearer for you now?
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 24, 2009 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
The picture I am looking needs some offense added to it.
Did you enjoy all the games we scored 2 runs or less last year? Bay isn’t that bad.
Plus his bat would make up for it.
Is that clear enough for you?
Who do you want in the OF?
I hope you are all thrilled watching Byrd try to play CF next year.
an outfield consisting of soriano fukudome in center, and bay would make the nationals feel good about their outfield defense
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
it would make Ausitn School for the Blind and Deaf
feel good about their outfield defense
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
How has the lack of offense been addressed this offseason so far?
As far as the Nats go, I would much rather have had Dunn out in RF than Bradley last year.
I don’t care what his defense was.
Still waiting to hear your big plan to fix the Cubs. Tim
Byrd, Ankiel, Pods, a trade? What, is it?
You have smart ass things to say about other peoples post but have no ideas of your own. Let’s hear it?
You too Christos, What would you do?
Or maybe you guys think the team is good as it is. That we scored plenty of runs last year.
Which one can actually answer the question. My guess not Tim, he has a hard time with direct questions.
when did i say i think the team is good as it is?
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
JC its a lost cause
he rewords and misqpotes people to make arguments. You are #4 he has decided to do this with, so I welcome you to the club
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
do you guys have punch and waffles?
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
i believe SWL will provide those
once he has joined us
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
i thought he brought soup
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
that too
he is cool like that
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Agreed
responding to TJ11 is a waste of time.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 26, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
I said maybe you think, try to read carefully.
Good job on telling your plan, I was wrong, Tim was the one who barely attempted to answer. You couldn’t. I had higher hopes for you.
Oh, well…..
im on the "ride out the bad contracts" boat
so i guess my plan would be to send soto and zambrano to the fat farm and get a competent short term CF. if soto soriano and ramirez are healthy and in shape, that is a whole lot better than overpaying for a scrub like marlon byrd
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
Thats pretty good, I agree with most of that.
I would like to see some kind of minor signing to help the bullpen and OF situation.
i have said time and time again
we are in a waiting patttern this season. too many large contracts now biting us in the ass. Byrd is an upgrade, but what is he asking? I say hold tight, maybe sign Byrd and lets see what is available as the season goes on.
regarding answering you, each time i do you misquote it and change what the initial point of the conversation was until you get to a point where you can have an answer you agree with.
Drew is the third person you have done this crap with, and now you are starting on Christos, a trend that you might wish to think about
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Tim you are the one following me around
So if I am such a pain why do you do it? If BLou is such an ass why cry about it all the time.
You can’t help yourself, thats why.
I hope you keep doing it though. I would miss you if you stopped….
i guess replying to what you asked is following you?
you truly have a unique way of understanding english and such. you grasp nothing, and seem content on showing ignorance over common sense, but that just makes you what you are i guess.
i answer your question and somehow you skip over my answer to throw out an insult, kudos.
and i guess having a conversation here is impossible since you look for ways to insult or engage into an internet argument which is a waste of time.
and am I wrong pointing out that Drew is the third person you have decided to do this to, and JC is #4 now?
You continue to want to defend BLou, someone who needs no one to defend him, but you feel the need to, good luck with that. Even BLou would agree that you hanging from his jock strap as you seem to be trying to is a shameful thing.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Hey, you two.
It’s Christmas. Have a little “good will toward men”, wiilya?
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
i try Al
but his constant misquoting, and blatant attempts to continue to do so over and over needs to stop. I talk Cubs and he twists my words, and has done so now to four posters here. DOnt know what else to say Al.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
push away from the computer maybe?
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Dec 28, 2009 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
and I hardly see Coco Crisp as a player that "will be missed"
where is your logic with that one?
Not so many whene it's just Centerfielders
That’s why I’d rather get a left-handed hitting 2B. At least there are 2 options there.
But I could see the Cubs not wanting to add a middle infielder, expecting Starlin Castro sometime in 2010.
by RiskyBusiness on Dec 24, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
While you were snoozing
The Cubs signed many contracts with back loaded salaries. The team was also sold and their new owner has noted they really don’t have that much payroll flexibility this year.
We have gone after the big names recently.....
and look how thats worked out…….we are strangling ourselves with all those big, long, backloaded deals. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ricketts quietly is going to reject the option of giving out long or big contracts right now and wait a few years until some of these backloaded deals come of the books to give the team financial flexibility to build a team the way ricketts wants to do it.
Big Names have gone after the Cubs
More than a couple of players have indicated they wanted to play for the Cubs – Ivan Rodriguez, Thome. I think that’s because they knew the Cubs would pay top dollar, or over market prices. Plus handing out longer deals than other teams didn’t make the Cubs an unattractive employer either.
by RiskyBusiness on Dec 24, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Put me in the camp that is glad
we didnt get Capps Crisp or any of those other clowns… People with 5 ERA’s dont exactly strike me as must have pickups.
The one intriguing name out there is Jose Valverde.. But i am also in the camp that wants to never spend a dime on relievers.
I also am becoming more and more intrigued by Johnny Damon
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
damon can barely play LF
not to mention his agent is a soulless demon
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
Damon would be of more help with his bat than his glove no doubt
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
FWIW
Damon ranks high in active leaders for hits, stolen bases, triples and runs. But his glove is not what it once was with Oakland or even Boston.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I can't stand Valverde's victory celebrations
Even if he was wearing a Cubs uniform I’d find it obnoxious!
i like his abilities
but hate how he celebrates as often as he does. anyone know what he is asking?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
10mil +
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by jesus christos on Dec 24, 2009 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
no thanks then
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
if it gets down to the $8M range...
I expect the Cubs to shift gears and become very interested. I still think they’d like to make some sort of big-name FA signing (ideally before the Cubs Convention), if nothing else then to help wash away any leftover Bradley residue still hanging around.
Of course you don’t sign FA’s just to make a splash – or at least you shouldn’t. But if it can help your team AND happens to be a big splash, so much the better. Obviously Bay or Holliday would be big splashes but besides being out of our price range, corner OF isn’t an area where we have a lot of flexibility.
Valverde or Tejada would fit the bill – IF the price is right. The other possibility might be a long shot, but we’re rumored to be a darkhorse candidate in the Aroldis Chapman sweepstakes. I’d be very very happy if that happened.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Its not going to happen but Holliday would be an awesome pickup.
Of course some people on here would cry that we already have Soriano.
I like how he gets do his victory celebrations though
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 26, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
where would you suggest the Cubs play Damon???
The Cubs need a RF and or a CF, that pretty much excludes defensive basket cases like Bay and the not so intriguing Damon.
I always turn to the sports section first. The sports page records people's accomplishments; the front page has nothing but man's failures.
~Earl Warren
by lookingdeadred on Dec 26, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
How bout a new owner?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
how about a new GM
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Dec 28, 2009 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe wait
Seems last years remaining free agents came cheaper as time went by . As time gets closer to springtraining maybe some asking prices will drop . I have read a few free agents asking prices have already dropped . Seems like a dull off season so far for the Cubs .. Still hoping and waiting ..
Don't look now
I think you’ll see DeRosa’s demands go down and the Cubs will make a move for him. Just a guess though
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
Well, one thing is for sure.
The longer teams in general — not just the Cubs — wait to sign free agents, the bigger the chance that asking prices go down, not just for DeRosa but for all free agents.
Just as last year, Jim Hendry could have gotten a better RF cheaper by waiting, the same thing may be true this year in finding a CF.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
But is there a FA CF out there that's the equivalent of an Abreu?
As far as I’m concerned, Cameron was that guy – and obviously waiting out the market didn’t work there.
Now, the only FA CFs left are guys like Byrd, Ankiel, Pods, and Winn. If Hendry signs one of them for an Abreu-like $5M, somehow I don’t think we’ll be saying “man, what a bargain that was” at the end of 2010 – it’d be more like fair meh-ket value. I think the price would have to be around $2M to qualify as a bargain.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
+1
Al I think we missed out on Cameron. Byrd is just not the same caliber and away from Arlington he will struggle. I don’t like this. I think you have to look into trade options
"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher
I think the trade options were always better this year, anyway.
Cameron was a good fielder, but a high-K, low-BA, hitter who is getting old. Byrd has had a couple of good seasons, but has the kind of track record that implies FA disappointment, and is also not that young. Podsednik’s record just screams, “Run away!”
Granderson was the best CF acquisition so far this offseason and Cabrera may be the second. There may be other decent trade options out there.
I'd suggest looking beyond batting average.
Mike Cameron is an amazingly consistent offensive player who’s apparently been able to hang on to his defensive prowess in centerfield despite his age. I agree that Granderson was the best CF available, but I’d put Cameron at No. 2 without hesitation.
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
there were more choices in right field last year
we’re down to the bottom of the barrel, if you’re talking about free agents
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Dec 28, 2009 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
MLB trade rumors
Has DeRosa going to the Giants 2/12 million .. Not signed yet
would not have minded bringing him back for that money
but I’ve grown very accustomed to seeing players that could have helped us sign extremely sensible deals……with other teams
I guess I'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers
by Nunyabidness on Dec 28, 2009 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
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