Two more potential free agents for the Cubs

by Mulhollandmania on Dec 3, 2009 7:59 PM CST

I've been bringing up names here and there for the Cubs, and these are my next two...

What does everyone think of Coco Crisp or Endy Chavez? Both are CF's and play phenomenal defense. Neither is that great a hitter, but they're no Aaron Miles, either. Chavez bats lefty and Crisp is a switch hitter. They also are both speedy baserunners. Personally, I prefer Chavez, but what does BCB think? Are they worthwhile? Out of our price range? Perfect???

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Coco Crisp is an average at best center fielder who is best suited for left field. And there are holes to his offensive game. If he came cheap on a one year deal I wouldn’t object, but otherwise no.

Endy Chavez is a 5th outfielder type. Whoopie.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Dec 3, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions

We agree, for once.

We already have this type of player in Sam Fuld. No need to go to free agency and bottom feed.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 3, 2009 8:19 PM CST up reply actions

+1

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Dec 3, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions

Make It Green

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Dec 4, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions

His +1?

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by daver on Dec 7, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions

The only good thing about crisp is his name

This Chicago Cubs team is currently Aaron free. Keep it that way, please.

by jesus christos on Dec 3, 2009 8:29 PM CST reply actions

Remember in 2008 when he charged the mound?

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Dec 4, 2009 9:03 AM CST up reply actions

That was awesome

by Southside Steve on Dec 4, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions

That too..

This Chicago Cubs team is currently Aaron free. Keep it that way, please.

by jesus christos on Dec 4, 2009 4:15 PM CST up reply actions

Plus, going from "Milton Bradley" to "Coco Crisp"...?

C’mon, let us not tempt fate.

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by daver on Dec 4, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions

daver, i spit up on my monitor

don’t do that again

Blue mountains high .. Blue valleys low
I don't know which way we will go ..
One summer dream .. one summer dream ..

coda

ELO, 1975

by cubnational on Dec 4, 2009 7:31 PM CST up reply actions

Hope it didn't short circuit!

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by daver on Dec 7, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions

Nicely Done!!

That’s not true!!! WHY THE F*CK WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU AHOLE!! Ok maybe your right but you gotta give a little something here for it to work. I don’t know what I’m going to do this is the worst thing I’ve ever read, this day could not get any worse. Fine, F*ck it, you’re right.

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by gaclaudy on Dec 4, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions

Thanks!

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by daver on Dec 7, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions

Chavez is coming off of a serious knee injury.

IIRC, he tore his ACL early last season. While repairing torn ACLs has become fairly routine for orthopedic surgeons, Chavez will be entering his age 32 season and speed is his main asset.

While I think he is a better player than Sam Fuld, neither are everyday CFs and there is no sense paying more than the ML minimum for Chavez rather than just keeping Fuld.

Crisp is a good defensive CF, though his throwing arm is good only in comparison with Juan Pierre’s. (And that was before shoulder surgery.) His OBP skills leave a lot to be desired and he has no power. We might as well trade Gameboard for Pierre.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Dec 3, 2009 9:17 PM CST reply actions

Crisp is not a good defensive center fielder

He is average at best out there. Don’t believe me then go ask Terry Francona and the Boston Red Sox who got to the point where they could no longer take Crisp playing center, even before the arrival of Jacob Ellsbury happened.

Crisp needs to play left field. And for the reasons you stated he has shortcomings to his offensive game that make wanting him a dubious proposition.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Dec 3, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions

Crisp's defensive statistics have really been all over the board.

He was extremely good in 2007, then really bad in 2008. Last year in limited time, he looked like he was back to ’07 form. Injuries may be a factor here.

Is he traded yet?

by DGU on Dec 3, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions

I wouldn't want either

I think the Cubs should seriously look at Ben Sheets and Brett Myers. Both guys are bull dogs. I know I hated seeing Sheets face the Cubs because I knew it would be 7 shutout innings. Both would come relatively cheap and could have a large upside

by Yerf on Dec 4, 2009 10:03 AM CST reply actions

I would love for the cubs to get sheets on a one-year incentive type deal....

He has take over a year to heal up and get healthy…and when healthy he is a dominate pitcher. I think its a gamble well worth taking

by cubsmania on Dec 4, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions

Heavens to mergatroid

So the Cubs should get rid of the toxic Milton Bradley and then turn around and add wife-beater Bret Myers?!?!

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Dec 4, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions

Figgins to the M's??

4yrs/35 Million??? Terrible deal!!!

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Dec 4, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply actions

The Mariners have lots of money.

Let them waste $9m a year on Figgins. He ain’t that good.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 4, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions

I don't get it

They have absolutely no power!

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Dec 4, 2009 9:18 PM CST up reply actions

4 yrs/36 Million

With a vesting option that could make the deal worth 45 million is what I just read! WOW WOW WOW!

I would sleep with Blou if it meant the Cubs would win a WS. by Doggie Stalker on Aug 22, 2009 4:11 PM EDT

by cubsluver22 on Dec 4, 2009 9:21 PM CST up reply actions

That's ridiculous!

He’s a nice player, but wow, indeed.

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by Shanghai Badger on Dec 4, 2009 9:27 PM CST up reply actions

Also linked to Harden...

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by Musicdude10 on Dec 4, 2009 10:06 PM CST up reply actions