A Winter Meetings Primer
The Baseball Winter Meetings are beginning in Indianapolis on Monday, so as a resident of the Circle City, I figured I'd attempt to give everyone a quick primer on the meetings, which run through Thursday, culminating in the Rule 5 Draft (this does not count as an excuse to rehash the Josh Hamilton discussion, however).
The first question I'm sure most of you are asking is, "Why Indianapolis?" To be honest, I have no idea (ok, I do know, but the story isn't that interesting, to be honest. If you want to know, just ask). It's 21 degrees here as I write this and the long-range forecast does not look much better. The Winter Meetings have not been held this far north since 1966, and I'm sure after spending a December in Indianapolis, the front offices of most teams will be looking forward to the 2010 Winter Meetings in Orlando.
Secondly, I'm sure you are wondering, "Hey, Indianapolis isn't too far away. Is this a good chance to see Lou, Jim and my favorite Cubs' front office personnel?" In actuality, no. The Winter Meetings are closed to the public (genius PR move by MLB there), so unless you feel like stalking a few hotel bars, steak houses and the halls of the Indianapolis Convention Center, then I can't truly recommend the trek to Indianapolis (from Wrigley, it's about 3 hours to downtown Indianapolis, especially on the I-65 Motor Speedway).
Aside from free-agent signings and trades (I wonder if either Chone Figgins or Roy Halladay will be forced to leave their warm-weather homes to come to Indy for a press conference), there is a baseball trade show (closed to the public) and a job fair (you can attend if you want to pay $250 at the door) as well. And while I heard that the Rule 5 Draft will be open to the public (the 83-year old chairman of the Indianapolis Indians indicated it while on radio yesterday), I sincerely doubt that it is.
With this in mind, if you do decide to visit Indianapolis in an attempt to find Jim Hendry at the Marriott and convince him to trade Milton Bradley for a bucket of baseballs, then welcome. Here are a few places to visit, eat and shop while you're in Indy:
First, eateries (in the interest of keeping this baseball-related, I'll attempt to select places where you might see some baseball personnel).
- St. Elmo's - Indianapolis' best and most famous steakhouse, it's been around since 1902. It's pricey, but the bar is a great place to sit and people watch. Plus, the shrimp cocktail is one of the best (and spiciest) in America. This is probably spot number 1 if you want to see baseball people.
- Harry & Izzy's - St. Elmo's sister restaurant is right next door to St. Elmo's. Cheaper prices and a slightly different menu (steakburgers), it also has a lively bar scene that might attract baseball people.
- Mo's - another steakhouse. (Honestly it's what Indianapolis has to offer). It's further from the main hotels than St. Elmo's, which might make it a less-likely spot to find baseball people, but I have a feeling they'll be there.
- Ambrosia Centro - one of a few Italian eateries in downtown Indianapolis. It just opened a month ago, but is based on a highly-successful restaurant on Indianapolis' north side. When the baseball people tire of steak, they might venture here for the dimly-lit atmospher.
- Amici's - the second Italian restaurant on the list; it has been a favorite of media types during the Final Four, so I could see this being one of their go-to spots again.
- The Oceannaire - Probably the best seafood restaurant in town, they fly just about everything in fresh, day-of. For desert, have the Baked Alaska. It's either here or McCormick and Schmick's for solid seafood (unless you want sushi).
- The Old Spaghetti Factory - no, it's not a steakhouse.
- Mikado - Japanese steakhouse. If you want sushi, head here.
- The Ram/Alcatraz Brewing Co./Palomino/P.F. Chang's/Ruth's Chris - The first two options are more of styled-up burgers and their own microbrews; they'll both cheaper than the first four restaurants above, too. The last three are chains, and solid choices, but definitely not where I'd look first to hob-nob with baseball personnel.
Here are some places to grab a drink, either before of after dinner:
- Nicky Blaine's - This is not a restaurant. It's a "cocktail lounge," which means they specialize in martini's and fine cigars. It's smoky (smoking is allowed in bars in Indianapolis, so long as they only allow people over 21 in), but you'll be able to people-watch here; even if you don't see any baseball folks, you'll have fun.
- (Downtown has plenty of bars to choose from; Nicky Blaine's and the Slippery Noodle Inn are probably the most mature bars downtown. As mentioned above, both The Ram and Alcatraz brew their own beer, too.)
- (If you want to venture outside Downtown, head North. More bars and restaurants are that way - bars in Broad Ripple. Higher end restaurants at 82nd and Keystone.)
Now, since you can't actually attend the Meetings, you'll probably need something to do during the day. Circle Center Mall is smack-dab in the middle of downtown, and you can wrap up plenty of Christmas shopping there.
If you want to see some more sporting venues, both Conseco Fieldhouse, home of the mediocre Pacers, and Lucas Oil Stadium are downtown. The Pacers host Portland on Wednesday night (and I assure you that tickets will still be available) if you want to catch some NBA; the Colts are at home on Sunday, Dec. 6, and the 13th, if you want to stay in town. Tickets can be hard to find, but Lucas Oil, along with Conseco, are two of the nicest venues in America to watch their respective sports.
Baseball more your style (of course it is)? Victory Field is in the heart of downtown, too; home of the Indianapolis Indians, it is just west of the Convention Center. The Indians have had several Hall of Famers come through Indianapolis, including Harmon Killebrew and Al Lopez. Walk around the Vic and see why it was once rated as "The Best Minor League Ballpark in America," about eight years ago.
Lastly, head out to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway (you'll need to find a bus schedule or cab; cabs are plentiful, so just take one). Even if you don't like racing, you'll appreciate the scale of IMS - on the last Sunday in May, it turns into the single-largest, single-day spectator event in the world, with somewhere between 250-300,000 people gathering for the Indianapolis 500. It just turned 100, and the centennial 500 is coming up in 2011; before the Pacers, Colts, and everything else rolled into Indianapolis, this was the engine that drove much of the industry in Indianapolis.
Note that Indianapolis does not have a central transportation system, like the El. Buses, taxis and car rentals (or friends in town) are the only way to get outside of downtown Indianapolis. I can't recommend our bus system, but cabs are easy to find, and you generally don't have to call ahead to secure one.
With that, welcome to Indianapolis. Enjoy the Winter Meetings. Enjoy reading writers complain about the cold (and know that their hotels are connected to the Convention Center, so they don't have to go outside, necessarily). And let's hope that Trader Jim was just getting warmed up with the Fox/Miles deal.
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"I want to go to there..."- Liz Lemon
Now only 12,859 on the "Cubs Season Tickets Waiting List"...
by Zeke on Dec 5, 2009 9:52 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Indy over Cali?
Great write-up/info on Indy. I found it interesting that they didn’t pick a warmer location, but I think it’s cool that they move it around.
Listening to Steve Goodman right now and channeling positive vibes for the meetings!
All sorts of Rec'd.
I used to go to Indy every year for F1 and I miss that town. I’d move there in a jiffy.
St. Elmo’s is a very overpriced and mediocre steakhouse, but it’s good people-watching like Trey said. I’d actually just go have a steak at the Ruth’s Chris down the street and then go for drinks to St. Elmo. I was able to stalk F1 drivers and honchos at the hotels downtown, so baseball GMs and managers should be a cakewalk, if you’re into that sort of stuff. Downtown Indy is small and you’re likely to run into people.
I personally don’t think we’re going to hear any big trades this week. It’s just a feeling and I have no insider knowledge. But I’d like to hear some good news regarding the Cubs.
The people-watching at St. Elmo's is world-class.
While I like St. Elmo’s, I would advocate eating at Ruth’s Chris – at the very least you’ll save some cash.
St. Elmo’s has added a bar menu, now – appetizers, and things of that nature, which allows for more people-watching, too.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
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And the Rule V on radio would be hilarious.
“Guy you MAY have heard of”
“Guy you’ve never heard of”
“Pass”
“Pass”
“Pass”
“Guy you’ve never heard of”
“Pass”
“Pass”
“Pass”
“Pass”
“Guy you MAY have heard of”
“Pass”
“Pass”
“Pass”
“Pass”
I went to the Winter Meetings many years ago, at the famed Fontainebleu Hotel in Miami Beach
I think it was in 1991. Obviously the meetings themselves were closed to the public, but you had free rein of the hotel lobby, hallways, and pool/patio areas. I’m pretty sure things have changed since then, access-wise. Anyway, I wasn’t working at the time and my brother lived in Miami, so I went down for a visit and pretty much spent all day in that hotel during the meetings, having a great time.
Bobby Bonilla had just been signed by the Mets. and I remember seeing him in the halls, chasing after his agent, one of the Gilberts I think (Dennis?), apparently agitated because everyone kept asking Gilbert about his other client still with the Pirates (some guy named Bonds) instead of Bonilla. Billy Sample was walking around in shorts, t-shirt and a straw hat. I think he was working for ESPN at the time. Yes, they were a classy network, even back then.
Saw Herzog (how could you miss that white mop?), Himes, Schuerholz and many other execs, a few players, and many media types. Got a lot of autographs and overheard a lot of stuff that I’ve since forgotten. But it was juicy stuff at the time and very cool to (over)hear first-hand.
And if you were in the right place at the right time (which I was a few times), you could find yourself in the midst of an impromptu press-conference. Those were pretty cool – some smarmy-looking agent in front of a few TV cameras and lots of reporters with little recorders (some even had note pads and pens) all around you. I almost felt like asking a question a few times but didn’t have the nerve.
Probably the most fun though was timing an elevator ride just right. You see a few someones interesting walking through the lobby – even better if they were talking – and you’d slip into the elevator just as the doors were closing. Press a button high up and then just stand there doing/saying nothing. I obviously didn’t look like a reporter, so sometimes their conversation would continue. Good stuff…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Good stuff!
I can see it now. Upside down newspapers, “Oh thank you, I will wait for the next elevator, I must tie my shoe.”
There goes one over the fence...a Tru-Link fence.
by truelinkfence on Dec 5, 2009 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
will bradley
be a ray by the end of the week???? i think so.
Yabut, the Fox & Miles thread is still woefully short...
More seriously, have you heard something, know something or is your comment wishful thinking? One way or the other, I hope you are correct.
Well, I never heard it before, but it sounds uncommon nonsense.
- The Mock Turtle, Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll -
No, I have no knowledge.....
… other than what I’ve read, and the fact that the Cubs appear to be determined to move him, sooner rather than later, so they can move on to other needs.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Sure hope so
That way the Cubs know how much money they have for payroll .. Also what player that the Cubs get in return to move or keep
GREAT POST! WOW
I’ll try to get some information of the week on here if I can. My cousin is considered a “local celebrity” in Indianapolis for his optometry business (I know how ridiculous that sounds) and he is meeting many friends he’s treated in the past there. If I hear anything cool I’ll post it. He’s a Cubs and Dodgers fan so he’ll be in the look out for anything related for those two teams.
Your cousin isn't Dr. Ossip by chance, is he?
And yes, he probably would qualify as a “local celebrity” along with Jared (the Subway guy).
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Yes he is
Dr. Ossip is my first cousin. Used to show me his billboard everytime I visited.
I never understood how he’s considered a celebrity there though.
Are you a patient?
I'm not a client, but I know of his practice.
I think he gained notoriety in Indianapolis through some creative advertising by his Broad Ripple practice. He used to have a billboard that displayed giant glasses made out of a collage of objects.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
His practice has been around for a long time
Optometry has run in my family for 60 years. He took over the business from his father. It’s amazing how many people know of it.
A co-worker who went to the Colts game today
called me to say they bumped into Lou waiting for ride outside of the Circle Center Mall, and Lou said something to the effect of that he’s fine, but he’s freezing his ass off.
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by Craig in South Bend on Dec 6, 2009 3:23 PM CST reply actions
Great post.
I’m a little ashamed to say that, despite living in the Chicago area my whole life, I’ve never really seen much of Indiana aside from what’s visible from the skyway. I’ll really have to try and visit sometime.
Catch my act on Twitter as @dat_cubfan_dave.
dang! should've read this before asking my "Why Indy" Question in the main thread
Thanks, Trey! Indy’s got a bit more going on since the last time I was there when it rolled up tight at about 5:45 pm and you didn’t see any action again until about 8:00 am the next morning.
Cubs Supreme in Baseball World.
you were in Indy looking for some action??? Hmmm....
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

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