Bradley for Meche discussions at Winter Meetings

INDIANAPOLIS -- Chicago Cubs and Kansas City Royals personnel got together on Sunday night and had peripheral conversations about possible trade scenarios that could work for the two clubs.

Milton Bradley would be the type of run producer Kansas City would be interested in, while Royals pitcher Gil Meche is someone they would consider trading.

K.C. is looking for a run-producing outfielder and Bradley could fit nicely with the small-market Royals.

Personally I like this idea better than trading for a DH in Burrell.

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Wittenmeyer shoots down that one

but who knows. Anyhow, Wittenmeyer tweeted

“Cubs shoot down report of meeting with KC about Bradley.”

I really don’t think Bradley is a great fit in KC for their roster right now anyways, but heck, if there was any truth to the idea of Bradley for Meche, I’d jump on that.

by toonsterwu on Dec 7, 2009 5:34 PM CST reply actions

I understand many of you hate Phil Rogers, but I thought he two great columns yesterday . . .

he talked about how the Cubs will likely dump Bradley to the Rays because they are convinced that Joe Madden can manage anybody in Major League Baseball. Also, he pointed out that he doesn’t think the Cardinals will resign Holliday or DeRosa, and they essentially destroyed their future last year by trading away their entire farm system for them. They currently rank last in farm systems ahead of only houston. Here are the columns:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-06-cubs-chicago-dec06,0,5063743.story

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-06-rogers-inside-baseball-dec06,0,3824395.column

"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar-tissue." -George F. Will

by In Piniella We Trustiella on Dec 7, 2009 7:21 PM CST reply actions

Hmm.

Would this be the same Cardinal organization that has won 10 World Series, the latest of which was 2006 when they were given up for dead?

Just curious. I’ll never ever ever underestimate the Cardinals. They are a tremendous franchise that has a habit of winning. They may have some issues at hand, but so long as they have Pujols, Carpenter, Wainwright, Duncan and LaRussa they shall remain formidable.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Dec 7, 2009 7:43 PM CST up reply actions

I can't disagree...

…and media types ranking farm systems is always a joke. Sort of like when the Cubs system was ranked so high about 5-6 years ago – how did that work out?

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Dec 7, 2009 8:49 PM CST up reply actions

Hey hey hey.

Lest we forget the names of Hill, Choi, and Patterson. They echo through the walls of Wrigley like Lincoln’s in the White House.

by zam on Dec 8, 2009 2:23 AM CST up reply actions

Always a joke?

No it isn’t. While it doesn’t always work out, there is value is assessing a team’s farm system. Tampa Bay was ranked high for years and they are showing why. Not every prospect works out. Many of the Cubs issues from the early 2000’s also were caused by injuries to pitching prospects like Brownlie, Jones and Guzman. No one can predict that. Other than Pie, there was never a high position prospect. Players like Harvey were never thought of highly across baseall.

by rlpete on Dec 8, 2009 6:21 AM CST up reply actions

I said what I did...

…because I think there is a gap between what the media thinks of a farm system and what the people in the game actually know, or even what they choose to tell the media.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Dec 8, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions

Fair enough . . . but do you think that there's any possibility they don't shell out the big bucks to give Pujols another contract

His runs up two years from now, and I just don’t see him giving them another hometown discount.

"Chicago Cubs fans are ninety percent scar-tissue." -George F. Will

by In Piniella We Trustiella on Dec 7, 2009 11:10 PM CST up reply actions

This screams out to me that Tampa Bay and Texas have told Hendry they no longer have interest in Milton Bradley

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Dec 7, 2009 7:41 PM CST reply actions

How does it do that?

I suspect that Bradley is going to be traded for Burrell, and that Burrell will be a Cub in 2010.

Is that perfect? Far from it. But it’s about the best we can do under the circumstances.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 7, 2009 9:35 PM CST up reply actions

I think your right...

…and although I have no clue where Bradley will go, he will go somewhere and it will be an expensive move for the Cubs.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Dec 7, 2009 10:38 PM CST up reply actions

Expensive in dollars, yes.

It will be worth it. An expensive lesson for Jim Hendry.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al Yellon on Dec 8, 2009 7:31 AM CST up reply actions

So, instead of having

one DH on the team who can’t hit very well (Soriano), we’ll have 2?

When is management going to wake up and realize that it’s time to rebuild? Not all of this money needs to be spent to bring in players demanding high salaries. Build from the ground up.

Like oh, say, the Marlins? They didn’t have 2 World Series titles in 7 years, right? And what did they do shortly after each one, blew it up and started over. Not to mention they always seem to pummel us when we go there…

by zam on Dec 8, 2009 2:26 AM CST up reply actions

one DH on the team who can’t hit very well (Soriano), we’ll have 2?

pretty much, considering how awful soriano was in 07 and 09

wait a minute…

This Chicago Cubs team is currently Aaron free. Keep it that way, please.

by jesus christos on Dec 8, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions

I recall that Meche inked a 5 year $55 million deal originally

That means he must have two years left on the deal. So if we are talking straight-line math then that means $22 million owed. Versus the $20 million owed Milton.

The only way to get rid of Milton is to do a salary swap. Otherwise he is immovable. Meche is this generation’s Scott Sanderson…a high quality arm but who can never seem to keep it together. Seeing how the Cubs have need in the rotation they could do worse than swapping Milton for Meche I believe.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Dec 7, 2009 7:51 PM CST reply actions

i would do this in a heart beat

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Dec 7, 2009 9:52 PM CST reply actions

+1

We get value out of Bradley. This is way better than Castillo or Burrell.

by Don't Fear the Reaper on Dec 8, 2009 10:56 AM CST up reply actions

how about

soto and milton for meche and butler? then we can use dlee as trade bait to fill other gaps on the team and im not a big believer that soto is the real deal

by cubsmania on Dec 8, 2009 12:00 PM CST reply actions

You are assuming

that Lee would accept a trade to another team.

by Don't Fear the Reaper on Dec 8, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions

Also

Who would catch?

by Don't Fear the Reaper on Dec 8, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions

we either fill the gap somehwere in free agency....

or you have to go with koyie hill

by cubsmania on Dec 8, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions

butler is untouchable

This Chicago Cubs team is currently Aaron free. Keep it that way, please.

by jesus christos on Dec 8, 2009 3:54 PM CST up reply actions

may be..

it was more of a fantasy idea since the royals are looking for a catcher and there doesn’t seem to be too much on the market catcher wise. plus I wouldn’t mind getting a young and upcoming 1B and trading lee. Lee’s value is very high right now and I think we could get a good return.

by cubsmania on Dec 8, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions

plus I wouldn’t mind getting a young and upcoming 1B and trading lee. Lee’s value is very high right now and I think we could get a good return.

You do know how cub fans react to trading fan favorites, right?

This Chicago Cubs team is currently Aaron free. Keep it that way, please.

by jesus christos on Dec 8, 2009 4:44 PM CST up reply actions

yep, I know suggesting lee be traded is very unpopular and im likely to get ripped...

but heres why they should trade him now……
1) His value is at a peak right now
2) He is getting older and will probably decline in the near future
3) Its the last year of his deal and it eliminates the cubs from ending up giving him a good 3 year deal after that and watching him fade away in another bad contract.

by cubsmania on Dec 9, 2009 9:18 AM CST up reply actions

I'd make this deal

Gets MB back to the AL where he’ll be less miserable. Meche is okay. No matter what Hendry does were going to wind up with a sow’s ear. He can do all the fancy stitch work he wants, but, it’ll still be a sow’s ear deal to get rid of Bradley.

by Nibbles on Dec 9, 2009 7:37 AM CST reply actions