OT: Roberto Alomar AIDS Lawsuit
by crw89 on Feb 11, 2009 8:56 AM CST
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Just read this via a link from MLB Trade Rumors. Kind of shocking to say the least, if true, what a dirtbag if he knew all that time.
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by Rudey on Feb 11, 2009 9:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Shocking, if the allegations are true.
IF they are true — and I’m making no accusation here — it would go a long way toward explaining Alomar’s sudden decline in production after 2001, at age 33; he had one of his best years that year, but inexplicably declined the following year after he was traded to the Mets.
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by Al on Feb 11, 2009 9:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's normal though
for players to have a decline in production at age 34. I hate to keep going back to the steroids, but before the 1990s, it was rare for a player to stay productive into his mid-to-late 30’s. Example: look at the way our buddy Joe Morgan declined at age 34.
by Josh77 on Feb 11, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Point on Morgan
After 1977, Morgan had only one good season with the Giants in 1982. To Morgan’s credit, he got a lot of walks to keep his on-base percentage in the neighborhood of .370 during a lot of his post-1977 seasons. 1982 was the only season after 1977 in which his batting average was better than .250. Other than hitting that homer off the Dodgers’ Terry Forster for the Giants in 1982 to knock LA out of the pennant race with Atlanta, he didn’t do anything memorable after 1977.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Feb 11, 2009 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exercise science has changed a lot over the last 20 years
It strikes me as an oversimplification to chalk improved longevity up solely to steroids.
by Wreckard on Feb 11, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
And I shouldn’t have implied that today’s players who don’t decline at 34 are taking them. It is a factor, however. But my main point is that Alomar’s decline at 34 is not uncommon and could be explained by a lot of things having nothing to do with HIV.
by Josh77 on Feb 11, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Older, Productive Players of the Distant Past
There are three that come to mind, a couple of old Braves, Warren Spahn and Hank Aaron, and Ted Williams. They were all extremely productive in their late 30’s. Spahn had some great seasons in his early 40’s. Pre-1980 players generally didn’t take as good as care of themselves as the players of the last thirty years. Maybe, because there was less money to be made in the game way back when, they weren’t motivated to keep themselves in shape to extend their careers for more big league paydays.
"The big possum walks late." - Harry Caray
by memphiscub on Feb 11, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pitchers
are a different beast and their skill set is not as athletic, so I’m not counting guys like Spahn. But Aaron dropped off in his 30’s too, it’s just that it was masked because he moved from a great pitcher’s park (Milwaukee County Stadium) to a great hitters’ park (Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium). He was still a great player though. It’s just that we didn’t realize how great he was when he was younger.
Williams was just a freak.
by Josh77 on Feb 11, 2009 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HIV treatment
HIV treatment drug wise is pretty extensive and debilitating,
Doubtful he had full blown AIDS back then though because it is extremely doubtful he’d be still alive today.
Once it develops into full blown AIDS you don’t have much time left.
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by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
Based on the claims in the article, his health is in pretty bad shape — or at least he has had some really bad bouts. I wonder what he even looks like now, probably needs to stay out of the public eye if he’s all skinny and diseased looking.
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by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 9:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This may be
The absolute weirdest off-season ever.
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by Worf on Feb 11, 2009 9:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+2
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by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 11, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness we're 3 days from Spring Training
hopefully, the weirdness subsides.
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by Trey2317 on Feb 11, 2009 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, TWO days.
Pitchers & catchers report on Friday!
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by Al on Feb 11, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, yes. I need to turn the page on my desk calendar.
I can survive till then.
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by Trey2317 on Feb 11, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
less than two days now!
yay
#34: You'll be missed!
by Chanman25 on Feb 11, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Whats going to happen tomorrow?
Well, I assume the AIDS bit would have to be true. There are a lot of dumb lawyers out there, but I doubt any of them would would be in a lawsuit like this unless they for sure knew they had AIDS.
I wonder how any of this will affect Alomar’s HOF chances? Even if he’s innocent, I wonder peoples view of him will change knowing he has AIDs. I personally don’t think I would have voted him in anyway, but I read a lot of reports where some people said they would. I dunno….
Hope he’s doing OK and is getting the meds he needs.
by TheHawkRules on Feb 11, 2009 10:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well at least
perhaps the ED will keep him from spreading it to others. I know we have to take accusations like this with a grain of salt — but its pretty bad if he has indeed been hiding this from his partners. Yuck.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 10:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
HIV by itself won't hinder what chances he has.
Whether the suit has merit and he acted knowingly may impact, but HIV by itself shouldn’t help or hurt his chances.
by N Oakley on Feb 11, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't...
Your right. It shouldn’t hurt it… but has baseball had to really face this issue before? BTW, I thought he has full blown AIDS and not the HIV virus? Maybe I am wrong though…. Ah, I’m a child of the 80’s, so it’s naturally for me to think of people discriminating against AIDS. People still do it… but I hope your right. I hope it in itself doesn’t hinder his chances.
by TheHawkRules on Feb 11, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As far as HOF
I’m thinking that the Aids thing and the spitting on ump thing will be on people minds for awhile — whether that is right or not is debatable.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's not a rule against spitting or contracting AIDS
Robbie Alomar is a sure fire Hall of Famer despite his lack of other qualities. A better overall 2nd baseman than either Joe Morgan or Ryne Sandberg. In fact, probably the best of all time.
by BLou on Feb 11, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the spitting episdoe is a HUGE mark against him.
That is just wrong. Is it in itself enough to keep him out of the HOF? I don’t think so…
If this lawsuit is proven true, then yes, I think it is enough to keep him out of the HOF. But, he’s innocent until proven guilty.
I wonder also, on the reverse side of things, if it comes out that he was playing with AIDS, could he get sympathy vote?
I think as time progresses, it will be hard to keep the AIDS talk out of Alomar career… UNLESS he comes out and proves that he didn’t have it while he played.
This may not be right, but that’s how the world turns.
by TheHawkRules on Feb 11, 2009 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the spitting thing
would keep him out. If taking a baseball bat to Johnny Roseboro’s head didn’t keep Juan Marichal out, I can’t see the spitting incident keeping Alomar out, even if the BBWAA has decided to appoint itself the guardian of our nation’s morals in recent years. But there is no way you can argue what Alomar did in the spitting incident was even close to what Marichal did.
If he did knowingly infect someone with AIDS, that would probably keep him out.
I don’t think if he had AIDS while playing that it would have any impact on his HOF chances. If he had it, it would have been late in his career.
by Josh77 on Feb 11, 2009 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
But the media can really take that, and spin it to be like how we talk about Ron Santo and him playing with diabetes. (I am NOT comparing the two situations, I’m just thinking about what the media might do) With AIDS, i can easily see how a lot of the media would start writing stories about how Alomar went out, feeling horrible, and gave his all… maybe getting a clutch hit, etc. Even if it is true that he only had it at the end of his career.
As far as I know, no other baseball player has played played with AIDS… especially a player of Alomar’s caliber. So that in itself will be getting the media write about the ordeal, thus creating sympthy, etc…
I hope I am getting my points across. I’m tired and crappy feeling.
by TheHawkRules on Feb 11, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There's Alan Wiggins
who died of complications of AIDS in 1991. We don’t know when the symptoms started, but he played in the 1987 season, so it’s certainly possible he was playing with AIDS. Clearly Wiggins wasn’t going to be considered for the Hall no matter what he did, but it’s an interesting precedent.
by Josh77 on Feb 11, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
Though, no offense to Wiggins… few/if anybody, remembers him. People will be naturally talking about Alomar when he becomes elligable for the HOF. Once they start talking about him, this AIDS issue (if its true), will naturally be one one of the main topics about him, his life, and his career.
Though it may not be right, I just don’t know how the media will not make this a major issue.
by TheHawkRules on Feb 11, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Glenn Burke would be another example.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Feb 11, 2009 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Glenn Burke's last game
was in 1979, before anyone had ever heard of AIDS. He died in 1995. I doubt there was any possibility that he was playing with AIDS.
by Josh77 on Feb 12, 2009 1:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
True.
But he did quit baseball in his “prime” because he admitted he was gay, and that gays didn’t fit in ML clubhouses. He later died of AIDS.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
by DeRoMyHero on Feb 12, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's doubtful
It’s doubtful he had AIDS while playing. He would have passed by now.
He might have been HIV positive but doubt it had developed into AIDS by the time he retired.
People can and have lived a long time now with HIV (look at Magic Johnson since 1991 wasn’t it?) but once it grows into AIDS it’s doubtful someone would be alive 4 years later.
Although the treatment regimen when you have HIV is pretty extensive.
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by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure?
AIDS affects everyone differently. One thing in Alomars favor is that he was a major league athlete. I don’t know about the 4 year thing… maybe. During the 80’s I remember it was like this. But for people who have the $ to spend on medicine, it’s been a whole different ball game over the last 10 or so years.
by TheHawkRules on Feb 11, 2009 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
AIDS and HIV
you’re right people are living longer with AIDS but 4 years is still relatively rare.
Even if healthy when you come down with it.
HIV is different. While this is what AIDS grows out of you can go a very long time with it before getting sick.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree
I’m just saying its not like it won’t be on the minds of some. Based on his abilities sure he is a HOFer, and I am sure that as time goes by — players without the shadow of PEDs hanging over their head will likely be voted in sooner.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WAY MORE OT ( and NOT for the kiddies)
Believe it or not there was a “blind” gossip item in the NY Daily News on Sunday that went something like this
“A famous former athlete’s wife claims in divorce papers that they were "involved” with the family pet". That has me weirded out for the week at least.
It should be also be noted that Dwayne Wade’s wife claimed in divorce papers that he had given her a sexually communicated disease but she has backed down saying it was a “mistake” and she was upset. Not nice.
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Feb 11, 2009 10:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I read the "report"
But it wasn’t Alomar, was it?
I do feel bad for the guy. AIDS is a horrible thing and I don’t wish it upon anybody.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Feb 11, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No not Alomar
He has enough trouble
"I am not ashamed to say I love Greg Maddux" - Jim Hendry
by Doggie Stalker on Feb 11, 2009 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
In keeping with the tone:
Look what Darryl Strawberry has been up to, via NY Daily News.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
by chilango2 on Feb 11, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's pretty catty of her
He must be a real dog
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Feb 11, 2009 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Very disturbing
It just goes to show, yet again, be very careful of hero worshipping professional athletes in today’s modern society. There are a lot of wonderful people in sports, like for example Greg Maddux and Derrek Lee. But there is also many who are varying forms of prima donna, cheats, immoral douchebags, or just plain criminal.
With all due respect to the great Ryne Sandberg, Robbie Alomar is the best 2nd baseman I ever say play the game. He had no peer defensively and was a special hitter as well. What a dirty rotten shame that his life will be cut short by such a horrendous disease.
by BLou on Feb 11, 2009 10:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Slow down there, campers
You can put any damn thing you want in a lawsuit.
He may have AIDS, but we have only this chick’s word that he had unprotected sex with her. Like James Carville once said, you drag $100 through a trailer park and you can find all kinds of stories.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
by Worf on Feb 11, 2009 11:05 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
True
But he is an easy target, and he would have a motive to keep it secret — as would alot of people. Really, this is his own personal business, probably shouldn’t have anything to do with his baseball career. Poor guy in a way, I mean he is one of those forgotten baseball greats.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Also we only have her word she wasn’t sleeping around or was the one to give it to him!
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Well the article does say when she was tested earlier that it was negative — so that would kinda rule out her giving it to him. But, dang talk about a close one…I’d be pretty freaked out kinda like "dodging a bullet’. hehehe
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If he was showing symptoms of full-blown Aids within a year of meeting her
…then, um, I think it’s safe to rule that out.
by Wreckard on Feb 11, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon man
When all else fails you gotta blame the victim! Yeah thats the ticket — She gave it to him!!
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oka
Even with a previous test she could have gotten it from someone during their relationship.
Although female to male transmission is relatively rare.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily
Not necessarily.
Detecting HIV first is key to treatment.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It takes on average 7 years for HIV to turn into AIDS
It can happen more quickly but that’s extremely rare.
by Wreckard on Feb 11, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot depends
A lot depends on when it is caught and treatment started.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
THIS IS MESSED UP!!!!
really messed up. I dont know ho others feel. But i believe that if you know you have the Aidz and/OR HIV and you purposely have unprotected sex without telling your partner, I thik you should get the death penalty. It is such a wrong to commit on another person that there should be no second chances.
If this is true this is worse than steroids or any other past player transgressions. This would make Robbie just short of a murderer. He cant go to the Hall of Fame.
As Eric Cartman would say, “I’m HIV positive about that”
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
by fischisgod on Feb 11, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes... I go to Cartman
for my wisdom
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by Worf on Feb 11, 2009 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
On another note I dont like it that his medical condition was released
I am a strong proponent of privacy
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
by fischisgod on Feb 11, 2009 12:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ITA
ITA.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ITA?
Am i dumb? I cant figure it out
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said"
by fischisgod on Feb 11, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this one causes me great confusement...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Feb 11, 2009 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
International Tennis Association?
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Inflamed Tennis Arm?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al on Feb 11, 2009 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Inflamed Third Arm?
Connected in some way to his ED?
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by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im Takin Andro
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 11, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ITA
ITA means I totally agree.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to get rich
If she doesn’t have HIV or AIDS sorry this is just a get rich quick scheme off someone’s illness.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 1:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Clearly she's just some golddigging ho
Thanks for the stunning insight on this issue.
by Wreckard on Feb 11, 2009 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah
cuz no person in thier right mind would have (at a minimum) a civil case against someone who put thier life in danger by refusing to divulge that they had a life threatening illness.
C’mon everyone knows ALL baseball players are saints — they can’t do bad. And when they do its always the womans fault.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
2 1.2 years
She claims they both were told in January of 2006 and is now suing?
Sorry she is trying to get rich, that’s why she filed the suit.
If it wasn’t about getting rich she would have left him in 2006.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually 3 years
She waited 3 years after they were told he was sick and conveniently after they broke up and the money train is gone she sues him.
If she had filed this in 2006 I would think differently.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
While you sit here and judge the “gold diggin’ ho” she’ll be running to the bank. You make some pretty big judgements based on almost zero facts. First of all we don’t even know the circumstances surrounding the illness. If you read the article you will find that we went to the doctor numerous times and refused an HIV test. In addition, even if he did have the test, its not as though she was actually in the room went the doc broke the news. Why don’t you just hold your fire and brimestone for later when more information on the case comes out — instead of vilifying this women.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"
by StevenABQ on Feb 12, 2009 9:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Guys
Guys without getting gross if one baseball fans thinks twice and doesn’t get AIDS because of this it would be worth all the fuss.
There have probably been quite a few people who thought twice because of Magic Johnson and maybe they’re healthy today because of that.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 1:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well
if we are to believe Alomars story — he was raped at 17 by 2 mexicans — which I guess implies that might be how he contracted it…I guess..????
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait... so now we're saying
He played with HIV all through his career????
I think she just threw the raped by Mexicans stuff in to have some fun with Roberto.
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by Worf on Feb 11, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its pretty out there
to say the least. But as KOW has said, perhaps this will be a lesson to us all to not get raped by mexicans and get aids.
"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make up something good"
by StevenABQ on Feb 11, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, some of us need those lessons, I guess
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by Worf on Feb 11, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My point
The point I was trying to make is maybe seeing someone like him struck with AIDS may make someone think twice before just hooking up with the next person who will hop into bed with them without thinking.
Barbara V. October 14, 1941 - December 19, 2008. A great lady who was a friend to all and like a second mom to her children's friends (she was my best friend's mom)
by cubstoseriesby100 on Feb 11, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I lost all respect
for Alomar as a result of the spitting incident.
Once a punk, always a punk.
by Clark Addison on Feb 11, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don't know the answer
This is a civil suit…but if I’m not mistaken a lot of states have laws against knowingly engaging in sex / infecting your partner without informing them if you have a STD.
Does NY have such a law, and if so, and if this all turns out to be true, would he be charged under that law?
by chitownhawkeye on Feb 11, 2009 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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