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Apparently they've reached an agreement. I really wanted Dunn, I wonder what the $$ looks like here.

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Good.

The last thing the Cubs need is another OF who makes Sori look like a gold-glover.

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by DeRoMyHero on Feb 11, 2009 2:16 PM CST reply actions  

It's a nice signing for them

Considering Abreu’s deal, I’d guess that the AAV is probably in that 5-8 range, perhaps with some incentives.

I imagine that this signals a Manny and Dodgers signing moving enough that Dunn thought his chances in LA were next to none.

The Nats lineup looks alright, but their SP is bad, and the pen needs work. Their system doesn’t have many top flight arms, with Zimmerman/Detwiler/McGeary as the top 3. Of course, come this summer, they could be adding one Stephen Strasburg (and with the Crow pick, perhaps another arm). But their lineup looks something like

C – Jesus Flores
1st – Adam Dunn or Josh Willingham – Much as they might like and hope Nick Johnson turns around, I doubt they are depending on it.
2nd – ?
SS – Cristian Guzman
3rd – Ryan Zimmerman
RF – Elijah Dukes
CF – Lastings Milledge
LF – Dunn or Willingham

That leaves out Kearns, Wily Mo Pena, and Nick Johnson. Kearns contract probably precludes a trade. Rumors have them linked with possibly looking at Orlando Hudson, but they are better off holding onto their 2nd round pick.

by toonsterwu on Feb 11, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions  

Don't they have Belliard for 2B?

I know they do have 8 M for Kearns to sit the bench.

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by DGU on Feb 11, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats not that bad

Milledge and Dukes have a ton of upside

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Feb 11, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Good signing. Looking forward to seeing the $$

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by fischisgod on Feb 11, 2009 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

+1

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by timlacy on Feb 11, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

it's good to get him out of the division

I don’t know the numbers, but Dunn always seems to hammer the Cubs when I’m watching. We would have seen a lot more of him if he signed with Houston.

by elgato on Feb 11, 2009 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

He did hammer the Cubs

to the tune of .260/.398/1.012 in 109 games. He had 38 HR and 67 RBI, to boot.

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by Bill Potter on Feb 11, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, me too.

Although it would’ve been fun watching the ‘Stros try to cope with having Carlos Lee and Adam Dunn playing trying to play outfield defense, it wouldn’t have been fun facing a lineup with El Caballo, Dunn and Berkman – and Tejada, assuming he’s not in the slammer.

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by daver on Feb 11, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Tejada's sentencing comes down March 26

Think Orlando Cabrera’s agent will have contacted the Astros by then?

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by Bill Potter on Feb 11, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think they have any money to spend.

Otherwise, they wouldn’t have non-tendered Ty Wigginton.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Feb 11, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Say Tejada gets jail time (which is doubtful)

they could attempt to void his contract and free up money if they really needed a shortstop to fill Miggy’s shoes.

But I would agree, they are strapped for cash, severely limiting their options.

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by Bill Potter on Feb 11, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm guessing Dunn plays 1B for them, as they already have a ton of OF.

That’s probably a good deal. They got themselves a name player who can hit HR. He’ll sell some tickets for them.

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by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

Much better option than Tex for anyone other than the Yankees. Nice deal for them.

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by tony412 on Feb 11, 2009 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

AND

he’ll be a FA when Lee’s contract is up….just sayin…

by jbertram on Feb 11, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

That's cold.

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by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2009 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

+14 points for me in the free agent pick 'em contest.

Good to see Jim Bowden still hangs on to his former Reds.

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by Bill Potter on Feb 11, 2009 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

Actually, Bowden did sign Reese

On May 24, 2008. Doesn’t look like Pokey played a game, though.

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by Bill Potter on Feb 11, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Good for the 'Nats.

Their team just got a little more interesting. I’ll admit it: I wanted Dunn. I was willing to roll the dice on his right field defense to get his 40 home runs, but I’m not terribly disappointed things have worked out the way they have.

Must be kind of a bummer for Dunn, though. He goes from one perennial noncontender to another.

We are a fever ... we are a fever ... we ain't born typical.

by daver on Feb 11, 2009 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

He did have those 3 glorious months in Arizona, though...

when they gave away their playoff spot to LA.

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by Bill Potter on Feb 11, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Twist the knife in a little deeper, whydon'tcha.

We are a fever ... we are a fever ... we ain't born typical.

by daver on Feb 11, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

it hurt to type

I didn’t want to refer the City of Angels National League baseball team, and just thinking about Dunn’s time with the Snakes reminded me of a simpler time when we were all concerned about Webb, Haren, et al…

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by Bill Potter on Feb 11, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I was a proponent of Dunn, too

But I’ve come around to Bradley. Obviously, the big question is health, but if Milton doesn’t stay healthy (or, healthy enough) then his deal is less than Dunn’s.

And, anyway, I think Bradley is a better bet playing right in Wrigley. But I could be wrong.

by elgato on Feb 11, 2009 2:52 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

I feel the same way you do.

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by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Bradley is a plus outfielder, while Dunn is absolutely dreadful

I think the decision for the Cubs came down to that. And overall, Bradley is a more versatile and dynamic offensive player. I understand that chicks dig the long ball and that Dunn can get on base, but he also strikes out a prodigious rate and that is about the last thing this often dysfunctional Cubbie lineup needed. We have a better shot to beat good pitchers with Bradley in the lineup versus Dunn. I’m absolutely convinced of that.

by BLou on Feb 11, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Best thing to do is sign for 2 years.

The economy should be in better shape 2 years from now and the DLee will be a free agent in 2 years. :D

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by CubFaninCA on Feb 11, 2009 3:04 PM CST reply actions  

Poor Adam Dunn

It is clear he was trying like hell not to wind up a Washington National. But in the end the market was such that he was reduced to zero other options. I am VERY surprised the San Francisco Giants didn’t sign him. Giants have the pitching to contend right now, but what they desperately need is another couple bats until some of their glitzy youngsters in the minors are ready.

by BLou on Feb 11, 2009 3:24 PM CST reply actions  

P.S.

I’ll be rooting for the Nationals and Dunn. The much maligned Jim Bowden knows what he is doing better than a lot of people give him credit. I’m not saying he is great, but he is better than most think and does seem to be operating under a plan.

by BLou on Feb 11, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Fangraphs disagrees with you.

Check out this article, just posted, which rips Bowden pretty good.

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by daver on Feb 11, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

jim bowden

is horrible!

I dont care who the new owner is as long as he/she/them come equipped with a Jake Peavy and a Joe Beimel!!!

by cubsluver22 on Feb 11, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

You're high...

Or Bowden is. Putting aside the fact that Bowden decided to bid against himself on Dunn for a moment, it makes the Willingham trade and Young extension look all the more ridiculous. Dunn won’t look terrible at first base, and will hit a lot of home runs — although likely less than in his Cincy days. That’s the nicest thing that can be said about the deal. He’s a downgrade defensively, and frankly, not the kind of professional a smart GM would want around a young ball club.

It’s a nowhere, nothing move. It won’t make the team better in the long run, won’t put significantly more butts in the seats in the short run, and forces one to start questioning the GM and his vision, as he can’t seem to stop collecting these DH/1B/LF types with shaky work ethics and professionalism. All it does is allows Bowden to say “we’re trying to improve the team” to suckers.

by Damen Jackson on Feb 12, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly why they signed him.

People will buy tickets to see Dunn.

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by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2009 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

yup

For all the games I’ve been to see where the Cubs play the Nats, I’ve honestly not cared about a single player besides Soriano in 2006 when he was a Nat. Other than that, you get a treat to see the wonderful players such as Elijah Dukes, Jesus Flores, and Ronnie Belliard! They need a pitcher. None of their starters would even compete for a spot in our rotation..

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by Chanman25 on Feb 11, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, John Lannan would.

Lannan’s a good pitcher. I wouldn’t mind seeing him in the Cubs rotation someday.

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by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, he has the potential, but as of right now isn't a true ace

Let’s just say, if Glavine were to sign with him he would be their ace..

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Feb 11, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

No way.

Glavine’s pretty much done. Lannan’s a better pitcher right now than Glavine.

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by Al Yellon on Feb 11, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed...

I caught a few of his starts last year, and came away very impressed. Lannan is a real talent.

by Damen Jackson on Feb 12, 2009 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

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