forgive Bartman, win playoff games?

years from now if by that time the Cubs have not won the WS, it will because of the curse of Bartman. By that time the goat will have been forgotten.

Honestly, I have never exhibited or shown any kind of frustration with Bartman. I have always felt it was egged on by Alou. His meltdown reflected a fans frustration, but he never should have acted that way.

Can we please stop any Bartman talk although this is rare a Cubs fan bringing it up.

As far as the Alou bashing. While what he did was wrong it was in the heat of the moment.

I blame the Sun Times and other media outlets who printed where he lives more than anything.

because I never blamed him.

he did nothing different than what any other fan would have done if sitting in that same seat, not to mention the other fans whose hands were also reaching for the ball.

I blame Alou more than anyone. He threw a hissy fit, lost composure, and then the team followed his “vet leadership” down.

I blame AGon who muffed a ground ball.

I blame Prior who forgot how to get people out.

I blame Baker, he should have gained control of the situation, calmed Prior down and gotten the team out of the inning by actually managing.

I blame the press, who saw a chance to run with a front page article, and not care about destroying this poor guys life.

I blame his neighbor for giving his information to the press.

I blame the Florida Marlins, who went on to beat the Yankees in the World Series, proving that they were not a fluke.

But hey, that was game 6, we also lost game 7.

What Bartman did not was equal to the treatment he received from any of the following (1) the press, (2) the fans (3) the players.

How can ANYONE feel bad for ARod and defend that he is being treeated harsh, yet be upset and carry on with the Bartman bullshit? There is no one in the history of baseball who lost more with an error than Bartman, who lost his home, lost his job, lost his favorite sports team, lost his privacy. It is a sad story with an unhappy ending for a diehard Cub fan, and I for one wish that all the bullshit that took place, causing Bartman so much hell, was reversed since it was not deserved.

As much as I understand that it wasn’t his fault, I still hate the man and will never forgive him for opening the door for the Marlins. The ‘03 Cubs just helped them through the door. Why post this to bring up these memories? Spring Training is finally here and we don’t have time to waste on dumb topics like this. We need to be looking ahead to a successful 2009 season! In the words of the great Ernie Banks: “We’re gonna shine in 2009!”

amidst all this curse nonsense is this: you watched game two of the NLDS AGAIN?!

Masochist.

The Cubs don’t lose because of curses, fan interference, billygoats, blah, blah, blah.

The Cubs have disappointed because they’ve allowed themselves to be crushed by the weight of expectations and of CONSTANTLY being reminded of the championship drought.

I absolutely believe that if they would win one championship, then the monkey would be of their backs and several more would follow.

There should be a third choice in the poll:

Irrelevant.

Al delete this waste of server space.

Actually all the blame should fall on Rex Grossman who was at the game not too far from Bartman.

Hey he gets blamed for everything for the Bears even when he’s not starting so why not this?

I think the blame should go to Bernie Mac A SOX FAN!

How about blaming Clement for pooping in game 4 of the NLDS so Kerry had to start Game 5 instead of game 1 of the NLCS?

Or Al because if BCB had started before then the combined force of us would have won the game.

And if you watch the tape closely I aint so sure what happend in the play was even Bartman’s fault.

which I didn’t. In fact, I’ve never felt anything worse than pity for the poor kid who just wanted a foul ball and somehow got singled out when there were SEVERAL hands in the picture reaching for the same damned ball.

Games are decided on the field, not in the stands.

Honorable mention to the San Francisco Giants for their epic fail in the NLDS.

    Series shoulda been over in five. We had the Fish down on the ground with our foot on their throats, and should have gone for the kill…(starting Prior on 3 days rest).

    Needless to say, the fish got off, and we all know how that ended.

    As far as the Bartman game, I believe that if Alou turns around and runs back to his outfield position without throwing his “hissy fit” and letting the “here we go again” seed of doubt into everyones mind, we win that game.

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blamed him to begin with. If Gonzo had turned the DP we’d have been out of the inning. If Dusty had gone out to comfort his over-worked pitcher, we’d have been out of the inning. If Dusty had made a God-forsaken pitching change, chances are we’d have been out of the inning.

Bartman’s the scapegoat for the fair-weather fan, if you ask me. There were more important key factors in that miserable eighth inning.

I still feel for the poor guy. Its apparent that even some media haven’t “forgiven” him. Shame that people have to forgive someone for doing absolutely nothing wrong…

came in game 5 in Florida. Close game, Sammy Sosa hitting. Josh Beckett threw one at his head; Sammy hit the ground. I thought, “Watch Sammy hit one now.” He struck out.

That shut up the Cubs fans, who were in the vast majority there. And it shut down the Cubs as well. Beckett went on to win 2-0 and set up the collapse at Wrigley.

Bartman’s fault. We had a game seven…

I can’t believe I wasted 10 mins reading through this — note to self; any further posts with the name Bartman are to be ignored.

This isn’t worth a comment, or a vote.