The Pain is Gone
It seems like it's been far longer than just 4 1/2 months since we watched our beloved '08 Cubs be rode out of the playoffs like rented mules at the hands of the Man Ram infused Dodgers. I remember the countless posts and replies to posts from most BCBers declaring the end of their Cub fandom. Moving on to other passions.
After all last season was the one. It was an even 100 years. We were atop of the NL Central most of the season. Leading in most categories for the NL. Nothing was going to stand in our way. It was World Champs and we could taste it as easy as a Red Hot and an Old Style sitting in the sun drenched bleachers in the afternoon.
And then came the tensions of game one, falling behind. The Curse? No stop that. Don't jinx these guys and then the eventual collapse, which I won't make you live through again.
But here we sit in Late February; spring training is underway and we have the promise of a new season. Some offseason roster moves have plugged some holes and we are going to spend the next 30 + days tweaking the line up and the pitching staff.
And suddenly I realize that the awful pain that I felt last fall is all gone. The anidote is the anicipation of winning it all this year. Remembering the feeling of watching a walk off homer that clinched the sweep of the Brewers. The 1, 2, 3 punch out by closer (insert Cub closer here) to beat the Red Birds in their own stadium yet again. And knowing that we'll be seeing that all again and more in just a few short weeks. And I wondered if I was in good company? It's almost baseball season again folks. The pain is gone. The promise is now. Go Cubs!
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Time cures
And really…would I rather be paying attention to basketball or gearing up for spring training? It’s almost an insult to ask it.
Time to start thinking of warm weather….
i'm a baseball fan
and illini basketball. needless to say, i need baseball to humor me. one to two basketball games a week, plus the six nations rugby tournament just doesn’t fill my time like baseball can.
There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner
by laidbackliam on Feb 18, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm ready to sing Go Cubs Go.
"Booze, broads, and bullshit. If you got all that, what else do you need?" Harry Caray
by CubbieintheSouth on Feb 24, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
+1
But it did remind me of the terrible postseason.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 18, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
Rec'd
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
I agree.
It hurt, and bad. But time has a way of putting that behind, and we look forward to another year of the sport and the team we all love.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
What makes it horrible, Al...
…is when I think back to all of the gameday and fan posts that stated “Buckle your seatbelts – something magical is happening that hasn’t happened in generations…”
Not trying to say anything more than when I think of all of the hopeless optimism that we had on BCB – it still hurts a little.
"Just win tonight" - derv
Sigh.
Yeah, I know. Maybe I should just not say stuff like that this year.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
i feel that you should say what you want to say
you’re not jinxing anything. there isn’t a goat curse, bartman didn’t do anything, etc etc.
that said, my bowling team tonight said i “cursed” the team because i wore a white W shirt tonight, and when i took off my liverpool jersey, we all just started throwing like crap. got into a cubs/sox debacle (can’t call it a discussion), needless to say i got flustered, and heard WAY too much about 2005.
There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner
by laidbackliam on Feb 20, 2009 2:01 AM CST up reply actions
I think you were simply
putting out there what the majority of us were feeling during those incredibly awesome days. No matter how badly the post season ended, it was one hell of a regular season and there isn’t anyone or anything that can take that away.
When there is no baseball, entertain yourself for hours with www.wikianswers.com. I asked, "Do you feel like we do?" It actually answered, "Bored? Yes." Ha!
by love the ivy on Feb 21, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
That is so true.
Excellent point. It’s easy to lose sight of what an great regular season it was. I know that this is a bottom line world and if you don’t win it all then it can be assumed that you haven’t acomplished much of anything, but you’re right. We had a great regular season. Now let’s have another and then just finish it right this time.
I'll admit it...
I cried after we lost because for six months invested my heart, my soul, my time and a helluva lot of energy only to be let down. I cried because I want my family to see a WS because they sure deserve it the same goes for # 10. I’ll never give the Cubs up no matter how much they break my heart because I know when they do win it all it’s going to be the greatest celebration ever. I’ll tell you it will probably happen when we least expect it. Something like a 2003 minus all the drama at the end and the Cubs come out WS Champs. Can’t wait for this season. Born a Cubs fan, live a Cubs fan, die a Cubs fan, Go Cubs!
Someday we'll go all the way.
by Cubbinstrongsince86 on Feb 18, 2009 7:53 PM CST reply actions
Last year was...
definitely taxing, but the anticipation of a new spring, season has a way of curing all. Nicely put…
You ARE freaking out MAN!
And ?
this what baseball is to every team that does not win the WS every year.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Pain
Last year was the most crushing. 2003 was bad, but not as bad as last year. I really thought we would do it last year. But you are right, time to move on to a new season. Why can’t this be the year? I can’t find a reason.
That's shitastic!
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Feb 18, 2009 8:37 PM CST reply actions
1984 was worse
we were close, ’93 was just as bad…just as close….
we were done after game 2 last year
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Agree
After the diasterous 2nd inning in Game 2 last year, you are right, we were finished. We had no chance of winning 2 games in Chavez.
That's shitastic!
by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Feb 18, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not gonna lie.....
to me, last postseason stll seems like yesterday…..time will tell how long into the season it’ll take to feel a lot longer…. just gotta be honest.
2003 was disappointing, however, easier to forget because of the Great hope it gave us for 2004….. same as 1984…. both only to be crushed with other disappointments
Last yr was so tough because the team was pretty much maxed out with regard to payroll/talent and had proved everything in the regular season, only to completely fold again in 3 straight, almost worse than the performance in 2007…which makes the optimism for this year very tough to buy…. sorry, I;m a lifer, but nothing’s really been done to make this look any more a winner (or loser) than last year…
Anyone that bailed after last year
wasn’t a true Cub fan. They were posers. Visitors, seat fillers. The people that countdown to opening day, check BCB every 30 minutes or so, and play manager and put together the perfect Cub lineup (Soriano hitting 6th) are the real Cub fans.
We bleed Cubbie blue, even if this doesn’t turn out to be “the year”.
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Feb 18, 2009 9:42 PM CST reply actions
i never bailed .. but boy did I hurt like heck ..
Frankly, I didn’t want to really wear or see anything related to the Cubs for a good while. My emotional breakers finally snapped and I shorted out on anything related to them. I kind of posted off and on here through the winter, but I’m with Luis, this past meltdown was an epic fail that made even the polar opposites 2006 and 2007 almost pale in comparison.
I didn’t wear a single Cubs – related piece of sportwear for two months .. only in mid January have I started breaking out the stuff. None of my T’s have come out of storage, but I think I’ll probably have to do that in a week or so for wearing to the Y ..
Spring is a time of renewal for Cub fans, a balm that washes away the aches of their dying summer dreams that bled to death in the cold fall nights. Thank God for another day, another opportunity to enjoy the Cubs. And I am glad to be one of the most faithful and loyal fan base in all of sports. Before long, I’ll wear my jerseys and T’s and caps and going to see Double A ball an hour or so drive away and hopefully find money and time to see the Cubs soon enough somewhere ..
Yep .. mark me bleeding Cubbie blue .. give me that blue kool aid and read my LIPS .. or my signature ..
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
I still have a difficult time thinking and talking about last year.
Which means that I can spend all my time thinking and talking about this year!
Go Cubs!
IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!
by Cubfansince1957 on Feb 18, 2009 11:03 PM CST reply actions
Well, officially, my pain is gone
I purchased a few games worth of tickets at the HoHoKam ticket office the other day. I am ready for the season to begin and cannot wait to hear “Go Cubs Go” again!
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
I'll never get over last year
That was the best Cubs team I’ve ever seen. They were absolute bone crushers, I still can’t believe they got bounced like that. Jimmy frickin Edmonds was a Chicago Cub!!!
2008 Chicago Cubs: A busted pipe
From Texas, alive and well...
I swiftly put away all my Cubs shirts(vowing not to put them back in my closet)sulked around for two months, did’nt watch any other playoff games, I would’nt even talk about my disappointment. One day I decided to type in ol’BCB, there ya’ll were with the Peavy,Roberts, etc. talk.. The taste is going away from last year, I can smell the green grass, see the ivy turning, looking forward to seeing Gameboard, Fonzie, Ramy, and my man “D” put it all together this year. We can do it!! I want to thank Al, he is just another reason we are Cubs nation. I think I’ll go dig those shirts out.
ernie81
I loved listening to all the yapping
going on about how these diehards were going to just dump the team and never follow them again or come back; yeah right.
If anyone could disassociate themselves from the Cubs that easy it’s simple; they’re not diehards. In fact I’d consider them not even fans. Casual fan? No such thing. Fan is short for fanatic. You can’t be a casual fanatic; contradictory words.
After 2003, there was this clown like friend of mine – unfortunately he’s even a colleague working for the same company but a different location than me here in the ChiTown area – who swore off the Cubs at the time. He was ‘converting’ to a fan of the team 9 miles south.
So I figure this past season I’d check him out on his fandom of his ‘new’ team. It’s a joke, a complete joke. He knows squat about that team and still knows quite a bit about the Cubs especially the goings-on the past 5 seasons.
So if you’re a fan, especially a diehard fan, you are that fan for life. Maybe even in the afterlife. That I’d like to believe because then when the Cubs do win the WS I can look to the heavens and tell my dad, grand dad and great grand dad our Cubbies finally did it.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
Winter helps baseball
The months of blowing snow and icy breezes are the perfect time to lick your wounds. After 3 months now of cold and snow, just the though of an empty green field in Arizona fills me with a warmth and excitement that could overcome any heartbreak from last year. In the cold of December and January, last season seems so far away. In the cold of February, the new season’s hope seems incredibly close.
Was it us?
I know I will feel different as the 09 season unfolds, but sitting here in Feb it hard to envision the 09 team being as endearing as the 08 team.
But there is one aspect to the playoff disaster that I still can’t shake, and that is reaction (a better put lack of reaction) of the fans at the game to what was happening on the field. The silence. The feeling the crowd had given up. It was like there was no hope left (of all things Cub fans are about eternal hope). I actually felt the LA crowd was far more supportive than the Wrigley crowd (sure they were up 2-0 so it was easier, but an LA crowd ? more supportive than a Wrigley crowd? — that was something I would never have predicted).
I cannot stand the national media protrayal of a curse, especially the billy goat thing which is just dumb. But, something was going on that night of Game 1. Was it us?
Boston Red Sox
Bill Simmons, an espn.com writer and fervent Red Sox fan, has commented on this. He despised the bogus talk of the curse of the Bambino, just like many of us despise talk of Cubs curses. However, having attended many games at Fenway, he believed deeply that the crowd, which was so eager for things to go right but seemingly waiting to panic when even little things went wrong, affected the team greatly. When the playoffs came around, once one little mistake was made, the crowd woud tighten up, which in turn caused the players to feel added pressure and start to choke.
People can say that the crowd doesn’t matter, but I don’t buy it. Players talk all the time about getting pumped up by a roaring crowd. I think any player would also be adversely affected by the morgue-like atmosphere that developed at Wrigley during last year’s playoffs.
Yeah, 30,000 - 40,000 can certainly affect the mood
Trouble is, that’s a hard mentality to change. Spoon fed by the media for years, people believe nonsense like that. Hell, someone (Josh, I think) posted an article last fall completely debunking the “curse”, anyway.
It helps when the crowd doesn’t buy into it. The team can’t, either — including dugout blessings.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Feb 19, 2009 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
I think that's the point of Lou's "Cubbie Swagger"
Come to the park everyday expecting to win, and to shut out the “curses” and all that.
Unfortunately, the dugout blessing occurred, which was uncalled for. Hopefully, this mix of players has the right mentality to overcome the inherent tension that sets in when trying to win for the first time in 100 years.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Feb 19, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
And I do think...
… the crowd at game 1 last year, was strangely silent for a playoff crowd. It felt — strange. Not a playoff atmosphere. Almost everyone I know who was there commented on this.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Feb 19, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was there, too, and it was odd.
Very little energy – even after DeRosa’s homer. And after Loney’s grand slam, IIRC, they played “Someday We’ll Go All the Way” between innings. That’s a great way to get the crowd going…
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
by Bill Potter on Feb 19, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Thus adding fuel to the fire
of my thoughts about that song and the questionable timing of its popularity
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Feb 19, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
I think if it was more upbeat things would have been fine
The Dropkick Murphy’s made sure that “Tessie” came out before the Red Sox won. They gave it a backstory, and with its aggressive Irish-rock sound, it caught on.
The Vedder song, while decent, was a little more dirge-ish, in my opinion, and certainly not appropriate for play after James Loney dropped a grand slam in the 5th inning of Game 1.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
+10
I still can’t bring myself to listen to it.
"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09
I'm 100% with you on that
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Feb 19, 2009 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
You didn't need to be there
you could tell through the tv that the atmosphere was strange. I don’t think the fans’ behavior is related to the curse. Rather, everyone is so used to losing and has pinned so much hope on this one season that in the back of their minds they are expecting to lose and just waiting for the other shoe to drop. When any little thing goes wrong, the life is sucked out of the crowd.
... but why?
The expectation is that Wrigley would be the shinning example of fanatical support. It is if 40,000 fans choked. Of course it is not the stupid curse thing, but I can’t believe players didn’t notice, I think I remeber Lou saying he noticed, and if they noticed it at the very least whatever positive spark a fanbase can provide to team had the opposite effect that night.
I watched some of the replay of the '08 World Series...
…on the MLB Network recently and couldn’t help but notice how loud and unified Phillies fans were. For example, they were all over Evan Longoria every time he came to the plate. Now, I realize there is a degree of obnoxiousness there, but it was impossible to ignore the atmosphere they created.
"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09
As odd as it may sound
I think some of it is that the organization doesn’t know how to get the crowd fired up.
Most of us, myself included, probably feel that we don’t need a scoreboard message saying, “NOISE”, but sometimes they go too far the other way — playing down-tempo songs when the team takes the field, not playing any rally music in big spots, etc.
Side note: “Let’s go Cub-bies” has got to go . . . the much more assertive, “Let’s go Cubs!” is a lot bettter.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Feb 19, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
It wasn't the organization's fault.
There was a huge playoff atmosphere at both game 6 and game 7 of the NLCS in 2003 (and at other playoff games at Wrigley).
Even the atmosphere at game 3 in 2007 was better than game 1 last year. It was just weird.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Al - might I suggest...
…that around or just before the start of this season, you re-post up all of the summary topics you posted after our elimination somewhere in a sidebar on BCB?
I think there were excellent topics discussed, points made, and suggestions on how to avoid this mishap from happening again that would be beneficial to keep front and center.
We may think we have very little or no influence on what the Cubs do or how they do it, but I think we (the fans) have more influence then we might think.
It sure wouldn’t hurt.
"Just win tonight" - derv
I could do that, definitely.
I think I’ll not repost the “How I’d build the 2009 Cubs” since none of the things I mentioned actually happened.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I don't think that it was the organization's fault
I"m saying they don’t know how to counter it. Semantics, perhaps, but it’s not the same thing.
Game 7 in 2003? Really? Didn’t seem like that watching on television — seemed like everyone had a sense of dread.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Feb 20, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
When Wood hit the HR in game 7...
… that’s about the loudest I’ve ever heard Wrigley Field. The atmosphere was definitely there, at least at that point.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Was most of the game like that?
Seemed like the first inning wasn’t — and then, once they fell behind again . . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Feb 20, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
That day was kind of a blur.
I think the atmosphere did improve as the game went on. In any case, it was still better than game 1 last year.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
i completely agree
I was not at the game, but it was easy to notice this on TV. I was outraged. It seemed like the only people who were there were business people who only cared about their customer they brought along. I cant describe how pissed off I was cause i knew if i was there, I wouldnt have been anything near silent.
"I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying" - Michael Jordan, the one and only...
That's a convenient and popular explanation
But I doubt it’s accurate. Game 1 tickets went to “business people”, but game 2 went to “regular folks”?
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Feb 23, 2009 5:34 AM CST up reply actions
Don't know if it's leftover from October
but at 42, I’ve never felt as unemotional about the start of the year. There was so much about last year’s team that was just right. Solid starting pitching, shutdown end of the bullpen, and the best term I heard was a “relentless” offense. It was the best Cub team I’ve seen in terms of wanting to step on the other team’s neck. Up by three in the sixth? Ok, lets score four more and leave no doubt.
I don’t know what this year’s team can do to inspire more confidence doing into the postseason that I had last year. I expect this year’s team to be very good, but I’m having a hard time getting excited about it.
"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin
I felt that way, too
Last Friday, a Chicago radio station was doing one of those hokey “A to Z” playlists, and I happened to turn it on when they were playing “Go Cubs Go”. I was more interested in the fact that spring training had started after that.
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Feb 19, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
I remember my brother calling me
as the Cubs were imploding in game 1 of the playoffs and asking, “If they blow this, how are we ever going to be able to get excited about the regular season again?”. Good question.
As for me, I’ve learned, as I’ve gotten older, to keep my expectations in check, esp. when it comes to the Cubs. I cried in 1984, I was numbed in ’03…now I try to take it more as it comes; hope for the best, plan for the worst, etc.
I’ll root for them…my moods, sadly, will often be regulated by how well did (or didn’t do) that day.
But I’ll reserve feelings of pain for the more important aspects of life.
by bluekoolaide on Feb 19, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Well put
At least we get some benefit from aging . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Feb 19, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm so excited for the Regular Season...
That I didn’t renew MLB Extra Innings.
I just don’t feel that the wins are going to mean as much and the losses will hurt even more. So ill just live and die when they are on wgn/espn/fox.
Its a funny story actually.
Honestly, I feel the same as you
I felt a teensie more excited when I drove over to HHK to get my tickets and walk around the stadium, but I am no where near as pumped as I was last year. I mean, everyone I would run into here in AZ that saw me with me wearing my Cubs hat would say “This is the year” or “We’re gonna do it” This off season has been very quiet out here.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
The pain is gone...
…but the scar remains. I feel more grounded, more realistic this year. I’m just looking forward to seeing the season unfold – whatever happens, happens. There is no magic. There is, simply, good baseball and bad baseball (which some degree of luck does play a part in, but a small degree).
It’s obviously very hard not to expect the Cubs to do well, given the talent on their roster and the relatively stagnant state of the rest of the division. But I’m not going to get impressed until I have a reason to be. And should they make the postseason again, well, my guard will most definitely be up.
"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09
How long will that attitude last, till game #2?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Feb 19, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'm trying to make a deal with myself...
…to drop some or all of my ridiculous superstitions during the season, but the negotiations have been hampered by ill-will and bickering on both sides.
"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09
Shoot
I am still crying over ’69. Maybe because of being young it has lingered with me to this day. Next worse was ’84. I mean we take a two game lead and come up empty.
In the ’03 season, same as ’84, take the lead and nothing. The past two post seasons have been hard, but to me, not as bad as the others listed.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
Rec'd
I think last year would have been tougher if, say, we had gotten FOUR outs from a World Series and not made it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I think
the toughest part of last year was we were the odd on favorites to win it all. Going into any of the other seasons I pointed out, the Cubs were not the favorite to this extent. This coupled with the ’08 team winning as many games as they did, does make it harder to understand or accept that they folded like they did.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
What if we win over 100 games in the reg season?
Heck that’s better than last year. I can see a lot of guards going down.
agreed
I was born in Chicago…..1952 and have been bleedin cubbie blue ever since. Last year was a big blow but I agree with Al, it could have been a lot worse! But it’s spring now and hope springs eternal.. GO Cubs GO. I’ll be watching every game.
We'll be all right if we can just get back on the expressway.
by GreeleyCubFan on Feb 19, 2009 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
For me
that would have been easier to take because when you get to the final 4 or 2 teams, anyone can win it all. Getting swept out with ease by the Bums was a huge letdown. IIRC after the Loney 4 bagger, we never got a lead the rest of the series. That is simply shocking, based on that team’s ability to pound the baseball.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
I agree wild bill
While the pain of ’69 lessens as we get older it still hurts. The other losses hurt too but nothing like ’69 and as you said, and I agree, being young has a lot to do with it.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Feb 19, 2009 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I believe
In earnest I started to follow the Cubs in the mid 60’s. As we all know, they had not been very good for a very long time. But after ’67 & ’68 fans could see this team starting to become a good team.
So when 1969 rolled around and they started so strong, it was like the first time as a Cubs fan you felt the joy of winning. You soaked it in. Nothing was going to stop Jenkins, Williams and the million dollar infield. The crash that was to occur I was not prepared for.
Being a youngster of 12 the heartbreak was just enormous. The world revolved around those Cubbies. But age makes us wiser (well for some of us), and you realize that we can not control many things in our lives, certainly not the outcome of baseball.
So with each set back, we accept it and move forward. And once again we have another season on the horizon. And once again we hope that this will be the year.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Feb 19, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
69
was the worst for me.
We'll be all right if we can just get back on the expressway.
by GreeleyCubFan on Feb 20, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
TWSS
Too. easy.
"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09
exxxcccellent
When there is no baseball, entertain yourself for hours with www.wikianswers.com. I asked, "Do you feel like we do?" It actually answered, "Bored? Yes." Ha!
by love the ivy on Feb 21, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
"It breaks your heart, it is designed to break your heart."
I don’t need to quote the rest of it. You all know it, and Al uses it at the close of every season. But its so true. For some of us, last year was the most painful of them all. I wasn’t around for ’69 and all the other dissapointments were bad, but as someone else said last year you could just taste it. It was right there.
Afterwards, I never said I would no longer be a fan, but I really questioned the “investment” of time, energy, and emotion into this passion.
It took a few weeks, maybe even a month for the pain to subside, but eventually I started checking the regular sites for daily news and eventually found myself sucked right back into it 100%. Second only to my family, I love this game and I love this team. Can’t wait to see the newly remoldled ’09 Cubs take the field.
Lets play ball!
"Cub fans like to think of things in catastrophic terms." - Crane Kenney
Time wounds all heels. I turned the page long ago on
last season, there’s no use in dwelling on that debacle. That’s the beauty of baseball, hope springs eternal. Just like the coming spring, our hopes for a new season with new memories awaits. I’m not bitter, disappointed, but certainly not bitter. I love this game and this club too much to dwell on what might have been.
In the words of Eppie Laloosh “You throw the ball, you hit the ball, you catch the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and sometimes it rains.” Let’s play ball!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Feb 19, 2009 1:24 PM CST reply actions
Last year hurt incredibly bad
because it was the closest I’d ever followed the team. First time I had cable since 2004, first time at a dayjob that allowed me to follow all the day games with you lovely lot. And the first time I truly lived and breathed Cubs baseball for half a year, and literally would plan my personal life around it.
Buddy: What are we doing today?
Me: I don’t know what you’re doing, but I’m watching the Cubs game.
And while I didn’t swear off the team, things like coming to this very site in October and November hurt quite a bit.
But the past is the past, and Cubs baseball is all about looking forward. They say it’s always darkest before dawn. Well, friends, get ready for one hell of a sunrise.
Go Cubs Go
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Here's the intro (and link) to a fanpost I made last fall
…where I tried to capture the changing emotional state of BCB by just listing the titles of all the other fanposts made after we were swept.
BCB Emotional Evolution – From Omega to Alpha
by ballhawk on Oct 25, 2008 7:53 PM CDT
Didn’t take long. Within minutes of the last out of the Cubs 2008 season, the first fanpost came. And in the days that followed, a deluge of emotional outpouring came forth. Whenever I came into BCB, I always glanced to the fanpost list on the right side, just to see who was the latest to vent their spleen online. After awhile, I noticed the tenor had changed a bit – though acceptance had started to set in, rage was still in vogue. And of course, there was no shortage of thoughts on what to do for next year. I found it interesting every now and then to just scroll through the fanpost titles, oldest to newest, and essentially get a read on the emotional state of BCB.
Now that most of us appear to be on the road to recovery (though there are probably a few that haven’t even begun to pack), I thought I’d share this with everyone. Below I’ve consolidated all the fanpost titles in paragraph format, starting with the first one after Game 3 of the Dodgers series (Omega) and ending with the last one just before the first pitch of Game 1 of the World Series (Alpha). As much as possible, I tried to keep the titles as is – capitalization, grammar, misspellings and all. And just for reference and perspective, I included Al’s main page posts (in bold), but left out the game threads – not much emotion there. 202 titles in total (I think). Pull up a couch, a note pad, and a good cigar and let the pyscho-analyzing begin!
And just to whet your masochistic appetite… “Catharsis” was the first title and “So… I really tried.” was the last. Take a gander and see if you can find yours…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
that was a scream of a post, Ballsy ..
.. and one painfully, agonizedly on target one at that .. I didn’t even have to click on the link to remember that post. Your snapshots were the consummate Polaroids done for a Nation in shock … or shlock ..
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!
by cubnational on Feb 19, 2009 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that was an inspired idea.
I almost wish I’d written a hysterical, dejected, woe-is-me, “f**k this I’m outta here” Fanpost just to see my title up there.
"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09
Pain always...
…goes away with time. My hope is that this core group will be motivated by the dissappointments of 07 and 08 and frankly get a little pissed off about it. If they make the playoffs again in 09, time will only tell whether this particular club can find the right edge and get over the hump.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
It'll be real interesting, because...
… while, as you say, there is a “core group” that had the disappointments of 07 and 08, Jim Hendry spent this offseason getting rid of quite a number of last year’s players.
This really is almost an entirely new team — there are likely to be as many as nine players on the 25-man roster on April 6 who weren’t there last October.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Haha, for me, nothing can compare to 2003
Obviously, the pain of 2003 was far worse, but that year really changed me. After that year I was almost immune to that “pain.” Sure, I would feel crappy for a about a week, but then I remind myself it could be worse (again, 2003). I’m not saying that I am neglecting the Cubs downfall of 2008, but unlike most fans I don’t let the Cubs downfall of 08 bring me down.
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agreed 2003 was the worst being so close.5 outs away will be chiseled on my tombstone. the last 2 yrs while of course dissapointing were just bad baseball.the team got scared.life goes on.if the players can move forward then so should we.
Last Year
To me, being pissed in October and hopeful in April is what being a Cub fan is all about. Every year we hold out hope that this will be the year, and every year (at least in my lifetime) we are disappointed. The problem last year was that the media hype told us that we HAD to win because we had the best record, the best pitching, etc etc. Those of us who were Cubs fans before 2008 knew that basically we had the same roster as the year before (2007), and we all remember how well THAT one turned out. Actually, didn’t it end the exact same way? Thought so.
So this year I will be ponying up my $12 per month for the Direct TV sports pak so I can watch every Cubs game. I will be cheering for the Cubs every chance I get.
But I’m not holding my breath.
Check it to Pancakes! Pancakes!
Two sides to it for me.
On one hand, it’s extremely unusual for the Cubs to have been either in the playoffs or contenders until nearly the end in six of the last ten seasons (1998, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2008). That is a trend that few generations before us have witnessed. I frankly feel pretty positive about that, because it tells me that I’m not cheering for some sad-sack also-ran franchise that will always wilt before September, much less October.
On the other hand, if you look at the sequence of recent heartbreak, it gets a bit nastier. 2003 was the creme de la creme of disappointment, followed the next year by an even more disgusting meltdown. The next year, the hated Sox won it all, and the year after that, we were the worst team in the NL. The next two years were thrilling regular seasons, followed by complete duds of a postseason.
Unlike the economy, I don’t think it will get worse before it gets better. The way I see it, it can’t get much worse for us than it already has. Here’s to brighter days ahead…Go Cubs!
"I've got an idea...an idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about." ~Peter Griffin
Right.
The last time the Cubs had contending teams that long was from 1927-38. Yes, that’s right — the ’27 team was in 1st place much of the year before fading and finishing 4th; in 1928 they finished 4 games out; in 1930 they finished 2 games out, and in 1937 they finished 3 games out.
Those teams could have won 3 or 4 more than the 4 pennants they did win.
We’re on the cusp, I think, of just such an era. We just have to get past that first round of the playoffs.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I felt last year that
if we win the first round, we wouldn’t be stopped, the juggernaut would just keep a rollin’. Woulda coulda shoulda is all I can say.
"WGN, Channel 9 Cubs Baseball, Excitingly, Importantly, Dramatically Yours." - Jack Brickhouse
See My Signature
I look forward to the season ….and dread the playoffs.
I love watching the Cubs during the season and dread watching them in the playoffs.
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i,d rather finish last than make the playoffs and lose. thats what i was told by a tiger fan.congratulations detroit.you have to get to the show to get a chance.heres hoping we get there again.i,ll risk the hurt
Wow
That’s unbelieveably bitter. I’ll risk the emotional lows, as much as they hurt, for the highs that come first.
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 2, 2009 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
I'll believe it when I see it
That’s my philosophy after last year’s playoff debacle. Life is too short (season too long) to be watching the Cubs everyday on the MLB ticket.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
What are you doing daver? Quoting from the Tim McCarver intuitively obvious
cliche book?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 3, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
You've been quiet lately . . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 3, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
Just kind of laying low. There hasn't been much to talk about on the posts these days. I'm
saving it for the regular season. I’m holding my breath trying to will Michigan into the big dance. It looks kind of bleak, but there’s always hope.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 3, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Good. I'm expecting a review of "War and Peace" on my desk by tomorrow.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 3, 2009 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
War = bad, Peace = good
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 3, 2009 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks, I knew I could depend on a UW alumnus to deliver a succinct review of a classic.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 4, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
No problem. Big1T1en guys have to stick together.
And, since we clearly can’t count, we’d better be able to read . . . .
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Mar 4, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Y'know, not many people know that...
…the original title of “War and Peace” was “War: What Is It Good For?”
HUH – GOOD GOD!
My sig line is out for jury duty.
Absolutely nothing! Say it again!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 4, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I'll keep up
I live and die with each pitch, so it’s imperative I don’t watch too many games. It’s not healthy.
"I'm not so mean. I wouldn't ever go out to hurt anybody deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something." - Dick Butkus
great thread .. Al, you oughta leave this one somewhere at the top
at least the first month or so to remind us how far the Cubs and the fans following them have come.
Me, the old Mexican bard in me comes out ..
We can see clearly now, the pain is gone
We can see all of the obstacles in our way
Gonna let the dark clouds pass us by
Gonna be a bright, bright Cubs kind of Day ..
Look all around, there’s nothing but Blue sky
Look straight ahead, Bleed Cubbie Blue skyyyyy yyyyyyy yyyyyyy yyyyyy yyyyyyyy yyyyyyyy
Looking forward to the Cubs – White Sux dustup tonight .. play ball!
Well, Next Year is here .. and Jack's century's gotta end some time .. GO CUBBIES!

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