Roberts-Free Saturday Morning Cubs/MLB Headlines
This one slipped by a couple of days ago, buried in another Carrie Muskat missive from Mesa:
While thinking out loud, Piniella said he'd like to carry 14 position players and 11 pitchers if possible. The team isn't sure how to slot some players -- newcomer Aaron Miles, for example. Piniella wants to see them on the field, and the Cubs will have 39 spring games to evaluate the team.
To which I'd say, HOORAY! Especially in April and May, with 5 off days sprinkled in amongst the season's first 38 games, there's really no reason for a seventh reliever. Rich Harden and Sean Marshall could split the 4th/5th spot in the rotation, resting Harden and leaving Marshall available for long relief when he's not starting. All having a 12th pitcher accomplishes during those early-season dates is to have the guy rust in the pen for ten days and then get hammered when they finally do need him because there's not enough work for him.
Go for it, Lou. Be daring. Now, who's that extra bench player going to be? Maybe someone to be acquired. Maybe one of the nonroster guys -- speaking of which, lefty nonroster guy Bill White failed his physical and was sent home:
To replace him, the Cubs invited non-roster right-hander Brian Schlitter to camp. Schlitter, a Park Ridge neighbor of GM Jim Hendry, is the Class A pitcher the Cubs got from Philadelphia in last summer's Scott Eyre trade.
Also mentioned in the above notes link is Carlos Marmol possibly deciding to skip the WBC. (He'll decide today.) At the rate major leaguers are dropping out (Vernon Wells, top Nats pitching prospect Shairon Martis, and several Yankees are all out), they'll have to make pickup teams. This likely makes Japan the favorite to repeat as WBC champions -- all of their top players will be participating. I'm particularly interested in seeing Yu Darvish pitch; the second he decides to be posted to the USA, teams will be lined up to bid on him.
Of interest in this Jayson Stark column on the Rays and how they might do this year after their stunning 2008, is the chart showing how the last eight teams to jump 21 or more wins from the prior year and make the playoffs. Two of those teams are Cub teams -- the 1997-98 Cubs (+22 wins) and the 2002-03 Cubs (+21 wins). The only one of the group to add to their win total in the year after they made the playoffs was the 2004 Cubs, who won one more game than they did in '03 -- for all the good that did 'em. Most of the rest of that group seriously regressed in playoff year +1, which does not bode well for the Rays, who signed former Cardinals closer Jason Isringhausen to a minor league deal yesterday. (I hadn't realized before reading that article, that Isringhausen is 36. Where does the time go?)
The Oakland A's had plans to move down the East Bay peninsula to Fremont, which might have had them called by the ridiculous moniker "Oakland Athletics of Fremont". Well, not so fast. The A's have "halted" the Fremont plans:A's spokesman Bob Rose confirmed to the Chronicle that the team has halted the process.
"At this time we have decided to no longer pursue the Fremont project," Rose said. "We are regrouping and will have discussions internally about our future options."
Maybe they'll finally figure out a way to move to San Jose, where much of their fanbase lives, and a move that makes the most sense. Of course, in the present economic conditions, getting stadium financing from any entity, public or private, has to be seen as a bit dicey.
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Perhaps Lou has heard BCB screaming.............
………….about the 12 arms, Al. This would be a good way to go, especially early in the season.
"Happiness? A good cigar, a good meal, a good cigar and a good woman - or a bad woman; it depends on how much happiness you can handle." ~ George Burns
I can see using 12 pitchers...
… when you play 20 days in a row in the summer, as often happens. But in April & May? Put that extra bench player on the team.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
ideally the 12th pitcher and 14th position player needs to have option years still available
I could see Hoffpauir being the 14th position player for in essence he is a bat of the bench and can provide a rest for D Lee—-fine. …
…that means a 4th IF’er needs to be acquired as the 13th position player. This I think directly dovetails into Piniella thinking out loud to see what he really has on the field with Miles——defensively. Is Miles a bona fide SS back up, is Fontenot a bona fide 3rd base back up.
versatility and players in their prime will cost the Cubs in trading for I don’t think a middle IF’er like RJohnson will be available—-so who has a reasonable priced SS/2B who might be available for a decent trade value——a pitcher
Therefore looking at the roster with options available let us presume the following: Dempster-Zambrano-Lilly-Harden with Marshall in the swing =5 and Marmol-Gregg-Heilman-Guzman-Vizcaino-Cotts = 6 or 11, leaving Gaudin as the 12th pitcher followed by Hart, Stevens, Ascanio, Samardzija, Patton, Atkins, Berg, Mateo is some varying order.
KEY QUESTION IS WHETHER GAUDIN has option year remaining? If he doesn’t than Gaudin is on the trade block unless the Cubs can unload Vizcaino (prefer —repeat—prefer) thus leaving Hart or Stevens on the natural 12 pitcher swing with the 14th position player.
Going back to the back up at 3B/SS/1B the only FA out there available is Nomar Garciaparra and that has been fully discussed there—-Cabera is an interesting talent out there but with the 1st round value on his shoulders he is over priced—-
An interesting trade possibility might be someone Jeff Blum—-grizzled veteran who again is a switch hitter to boot—-with some real pop against RHP’ers, he can play all infield positions adequately making a reasonable $1.2M he is the answer if Miles can actually play SS to Lou’s satisfaction.
Thus would the Astros take for Blum who is there to platoon with a rookie that is suspect. Of course this might be mute if the Astros are not selling tickets….
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Too bad Oaklnad isn't getting out of that stadium
It looks like a really crappy place to play. That team deserves a stronger fan base.
CARLOS PLEASE DONT PITCH IN THE WBC!!!!
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I think they'll be in San Jose eventually
If they can find a way to push a franchise into Washington against Baltimore’s wishes, they can find a compromise with San Francisco.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
They're going to have to
The sad thing is, 7-8 years ago the A’s could have gotten a state-of-the-art taxpayer funded stadium out of the city of San Jose. Of course the Giants blocked that. Now there is pretty much no chance of that happening, Giants or no.
They may be stuck in Oakland for a while.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 21, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Right.
I dunno about 7-8 years ago. The Giants have been pretty adamant about keeping San Jose their “territory”, even though their new park is farther from San Jose than their old park was.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
What I meant
was that 7-8 years ago, the city of San Jose and Santa Clara County had the money and political will to build a stadium for the Athletics to lure them to San Jose, but the Giants blocked it. Now even if the Giants remove their objections, San Jose and Santa Clara County no longer have the money for such a project.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 21, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly correct.
What purpose the Giants thought they were serving is beyond me. It wouldn’t have cut into their fan base or market at all.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
A lot of Angel Fans....
….. were really hoping the A’s did the Fremont move, especially after enduring so much ridicule over the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim name (LAA). Because, if there were such a move, they’d be the Oakland Athletics of Fremont, or the OAFs.
"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008
I'm guessing...
… that now that the city of Anaheim has dropped its lawsuit, that the Angels will, sometime soon, drop the “of Anaheim” part of the name, at least as soon as they are legally able to do so.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
2016
The Angels lease has an opt-out clause in 2016. It is generally assumed that Moreno will opt out and officially call the team the Los Angeles Angels then. It’s also assumed that he will be looking for a new stadium somewhere in Orange or Los Angeles County then. It seems unlikely that they’ll stay in Anaheim but if they’ll build him a stadium, I assume Moreno will let bygones be bygones.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 21, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
By 2016, maybe we'll see stadiums built again.
Keep in mind that not a single new major league stadium was built in the US between 1923, when Yankee Stadium was constructed, and 1960, when Candlestick Park went up.
I suppose you could count Baltimore, but Memorial Stadium pre-dated the Orioles. Same thing with County Stadium and the Braves in Milwaukee.
Point is, economic conditions prevented stadiums from being built during the Depression and WWII, and the current economic situation probably means that we have seen the last of the stadium building wave of the last 15-20 years.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
plus
an off the top of my head count puts a lot of new stadiums in MLB. Think about it, not too many teams out there who want a new stadium outside of maybe the 2 Florida teams. Don’t think Cubs, Red Sox or Dodgers have plans to move out. White Sox actually have one of the oldest modern era ballparks…
Ask yourself this.
If Nomar is healthy and ready to play, why hasn’t someone signed him already?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Because everyone is tired of the thing with the wristbands?
It’s possible.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 21, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
Was he waiting in line for Cubs tickets too ?
Just kidding. I love the thing with the wristbands. Nervous energy.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Feb 21, 2009 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know Al.
He batted .429 with an .500 OBP in the playoffs last year. I know it was a small sample size but he looked healthy in October.
"Small" sample size?
Try infinitesimally small sample size. 3-for-7 with one walk. If he had seven more AB without a hit, that’d be .214.
That’s so small as to be meaningless.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I think trading for Blum or Macier Izturis is a better option
a little better than Teahan
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Nomar is set to retire
He appears unwilling to move away from Mia Hamm and home in Los Angeles in order to play for a small dollar deal. Which in this market is all he is going to get.
I would be
unwilling to move away from Mia Hamm too
well than they avoided the likes of Madoff and Stanford
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Roberts-Free? I think not...
Saw an old Henry Fonda movie the other day – Mr. Roberts. Good flick, also stars James Cagney and Jack Lemmon.
I hear Jake “The Snake” Roberts is trying to make a wrestling comeback. Maybe he wants a piece of Mickey Rourke…
Oral Roberts takes on the UMKC Kangaroos tonight in a key Summit League matchup.
All you BCBers looking for Miss Right might consider moving to Roberts, Illinois. For ever 100 females age 18 and over, there’s only 82.1 males.
Speaking of Miss Right, or Mrs. Right as the case may be, I leave you with this pretty woman…

p.s. I wanted to use this one but thought it was just a little too big for posting. Definitely first ballot in the Couch Potato Hall of Fame…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
That was no key Summit League matchup
Oral Roberts was 13-3; UMKC was 3-12 or something like that. The Roberts bludgeoned the Kangaroos.
Though, since I get to travel to Oral Roberts University once a year for work, I can tell you that the campus there is interesting, to say the least…
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
yeah, I realized it was a dog of a matchup when I looked at conference standings...
I added the “key” part ‘cause I thought my comment needed a little more ’sex appeal’ to get it noticed… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Izzy is 36
Remember when he broke in with the Mets, it was Izzy, Paul Wilson and someone else??? who were supposed to be their Maddux/Smoltz/Glavine
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Well...
… hindsight tells us that it didn’t work out for the Mets, but Wilson and Pulsipher had tremendous talent, and had their careers derailed by injury.
Isringhausen got hurt, too, but managed to resurrect his career as a closer. He made his ML debut vs. the Cubs as a starter on July 17, 1995, throwing seven innings, allowing two hits and two walks and striking out six. He was 22 years old; it was a very impressive debut.
Wilson’s first appearance vs. the Cubs, his 6th ML start on May 3, 1996, was equally impressive. He threw 8.2 shutout innings, striking out ten… then after a single and IBB in the last of the 9th, Sammy Sosa won the game with a three-run walkoff.
When the careers of guys like this are over, sometimes people forget how bright prospects they were.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Well I guess thats not entirely different than Wood/Prior/Zambrano
One made it as a starter, one is making it as a closer…..so we had 2/3 of relative success where he Mets went 0-3
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
And the Mets got almost no one in exchange, either.
They traded all three of them. In exchange, they got Bubba Trammell, Rick White, Mike Kinkade and Billy Taylor.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
yeah, I never thoughout of the idea that Izzy was a starter
Hard to think about that, huh
#34: You'll be missed!
Speaking of the Oakland A's stadium situation, what's the latest on the Florida Marlins?
They have had more stadium deals blow up then anybody in professional sports. I’ve got to believe in this economic recession we are in that the latest plans the Marlins were talking about have blown up. Is that accurate?
The Oakland A’s need to move. Maybe they should move to Sacramento, or maybe they should move to Salt Lake City or Las Vegas. But they need to move. They are never going to get a new stadium done in northern California and simply don’t have a reliable fan base in Silicon Valley.
At this point...
… moving ANY major league franchise is going to be difficult. Financing for new ballparks is virtually impossible right now, and there isn’t a single city that doesn’t have a ML team currently that has a ML-ready stadium.
Strike that. There’s one — Vancouver. But I can’t see any team wanting to move TO Canada now.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Baseball will be contracting....when that happens moving will be in orde
Two team cities are tough……I can see that NY/Chi/LA with their larger 10M metro populations but the Bay area is only 7M, it is like putting a 2nd team in Philly. It is a wonder if Baltimore and DC will survive even with a 7M population.
The disadvantage for DC or Oakland would be the same as if they put a 2nd team in Philly’s or Boston’s market…..
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
eh, DC area is much different
there is no NL team for Virginians, Carolinians, and Marylanders to go to before the Nats came to town.
#34: You'll be missed!
You keep saying that, but what example is there?
Im not gonna look it up at the moment, nor do I know it off the top of my head, but has baseball ever contracted a team; I know many have gone defunct; but has there ever been a concerted effort headed by the league office to contract teams?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Not since 1900...
… when the NL shrank from 12 teams to 8.
There was talk about contraction before the 2002 labor agreement, but nothing serious.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yeah I recall all the rumors surrounding Minnesota
I dont know, call me naive, I think they’ll weather the storm
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
The Marlins
financing deal fell apart last week after it was considered a done deal. The County board deadlocked on the vote after two commissioners changed their votes and demanded concessions from the Marlins. Right now they are waiting for a fifth commissioner to return from maternity leave to break the tie. If she votes for the bill, it’s on again. Otherwise, it goes back to square one.
There is no way that Sacramento would build a stadium for the Athletics in this economy. I don’t think SLC or Vegas would either. I actually think the A’s would do quite well in San Jose. They’d get a fan base in San Jose if they were the San Jose Athletics. How many hockey fans were there in San Jose before the Sharks moved there? Now they are one of the more successful teams.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 21, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
The A's would do great in San Jose.
But there’s no ballpark or money to build one.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yup
And right now, San Jose only has a single-A ballpark. Raley Field in Sacramento could easily be upgraded to a major league stadium. It would be expensive, but cheaper than building a new park. I see how they could do it—it’s half of a major league park right now.
The SJ Giants field is a typical small California League field that could not be upgraded to a major league park.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 21, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Then it's possible the A's will wind up in Sacramento.
Sacramento is a big enough TV market to support major league baseball — it’s 20th in size, bigger than seven other markets that have teams already.
Guess which one is smallest? Bud’s hometown, Milwaukee. There are seven TV markets larger than Milwaukee that don’t have a major league baseball team.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
The problems with the A's in Sacto
is that there isn’t any money right now to build a stadium. We’re struggling to keep the Kings. Of course there isn’t money anywhere for a new stadium, but San Jose is certainly a wealthier town than Sacramento.
The other issue is the corporate base. Sacramento is a government town and government doesn’t buy naming rights or luxury boxes or even season tickets. There’s only one Fortune 500 company based in Sacramento and it’s a newspaper company, which isn’t exactly a growth industry right now.
The A’s could move to Sacramento if the economy turned around. They wouldn’t be rich, but they could make a go of it. It’s a stronger market than Milwaukee, KC or Cincinnati, probably. But I’m sure the ownership would be loath to leave the much larger and much wealthier Bay Area.
by Josh Timmers on Feb 21, 2009 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
Vegas would do it in a heartbeat
Vegas has been trying for years to get a team. Think of all the revenue the casinos have, plus the transportation links, and the convention centers. It’s not just the local population. They could do all sorts of promotions, come for the weekend, gamble, catch a ball game, and people would flock there. Especially becuase it’s not tied to the "adult’ portion of vegas. It could be billed as a family thing.
I think the gambling thing is going to keep MLB away.
They’re REAL leery about that.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
The Las Vegas Aces?
You could even keep in calling them the A’s.
The gambling issue will be huge – they’d probably have to find a way to take all baseball games off the boards – at the very least the A’s games – which could be problematic.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
I think the legality of it
I think the legality of the gambling issue could be handled, in that they would find a way to legally bet on baseball, but your right the perception will probably keep Vegas off the table for awhile.
Just saying though, Vegas would jump on it in a heartbeat if they thought they had a real chance. Most of the major cities in the mountain west would as well. I know Albuquerque where I live would do whatever it could. We already have the triple A team for the Marlins, and they just built a new ballpark for them a few years ago. There’s a lot of baseball fans out here, it’s just that as a whole, the population’s of the states aren’t huge. NM just passed the 2 million mark, and most of that is in Albuquerque and Santa Fe.
Bottom line I think is this: If the A’s really want to move, and MLB approves it, they’ll have no problems finding a place to play and that will build them a stadium to play in. I don’t know the numbers but I do know that a MLB franchise brings in a lot of money to the local economy, so in this economic state of affairs, cities will do whatever it takes to land those jobs and dollars.
Goodman has been pushing for it for a few years now
I remember hearing about him walking through the baseball winter meetings a year or two ago with showgirls on each arm trying to promote the idea of baseball in Las Vegas.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
The problem is...
… that the cities don’t have the dollars to build ballparks that cost hundreds of millions of dollars right now. MLB teams do bring in money, but numerous studies have shown the job impact isn’t as big as might be thought (a lot of the jobs are relatively low-paying vending jobs), and I think the last thing any government entity is going to do in the current economy is to devote money to building a stadium.
Albuquerque is too small to be a ML city. It’s the 44th TV market (Vegas is 42nd). The smallest MLB TV market is Milwaukee (36th).
Portland makes some sense, as it’s not that close to any other ML city and it’s the 2nd largest TV market without a team (22nd, Sacramento is 20th).
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Well one can always hope....
Just saying, albq might be to small, but the city would be more then willing, and I’ll bet if they wanted to raise money, the people would vote for it. but it’s a business, and if we’re that small a TV market( I honestly thought we were a skoosh higher) then what can you do right? Ah well, life goes on I guess. Personally, I don’t think your going to see any contraction. Baseball is a lot more popular then it was when they were talking contraction in 02, but if I had to put my money on a team to contract or move, it would be Kansas City. How much longer must that team and franchise suffer before someone moves it to where it can be profitable?
Only time will tell if there is going to be significant realignment of teams. but I agree that time isn’t now.
I know the situation looks bleak in Tampa
but does anyone have an update on that stadium??
#34: You'll be missed!
I dont know, the initial designs looked pretty unique though
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
You mean this one, right?
Yeah, it’s pretty cool looking.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
yeah I guess mine didnt work
that is a really cool looking building, and theyre actually good, so it could be an exciting time to be a Rays fan…plus that would have its own McCovey Cove, which could be named after, I dont know, Greg Vaughn?
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
nah, Vaughn's right-handed. This splashdown area in is right field which means a lefty...
…which probably means Fred McGriff. Maybe they call it Crime Dog Harbor? The Fred Sea?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Trouble is the Rays have zero deal in place to build
That stadium is cool, but that stadium is also a pipedream.
why was the Trop built in the first place?
I remember in the pre-Bonds days, the Giants were linked w/ St. Pete
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Originally, the White Sox were supposed to go there in the late 80's...
… which is why they built the place. It opened in 1990.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yankees exhibition game?
any word on ticket availability?
Out with the Old and in with the Nucleus The Tortured Fan Base welcomes our new owner.
Not yet.
Keep checking the Yankees website.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
FYI they just screwed there partial season ticket holders
They kept jacking them around and finally gave them their new take it or leave it location with fewer games on Thursday. Basicaly
bad seats for a lot of money. This from a friend of mine who has them
“I got nervous from the beginning when the Yankees called it a "Relocation” program.
I had visions of the Khmer Rouge sending us off to the countryside.
Which they did. I got to keep my Sunday Plan losing Opening Day and Old Timers Day.
I was moved from my beautiful seats behind home to the the right field corner."
He was already on the third tier up . Real fan friendly.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Feb 21, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
San Antonio
would be a nice spot for an NL team. I say NL cuz then the Cubs would visit a mere 90 miles away from me yearly
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Reason enough to get an MLB team there
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Feb 21, 2009 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
San Antonio...
… too close to Houston and Dallas.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
The NBA... totally different animal.
Plus, they had taken in San Antonio in the ABA merger, and there was a Houston team already. Dallas was the outlier, and Dallas is the largest market of the three, so it’s not surprising the NBA wanted it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Do the Cubs even have pitchers with options to send down?
By my count, the only guy who is actually in the running to make the team (i.e., the presumed 12 pitchers to make the team) that can be sent down to Iowa without being exposed to waivers is Samardzija. I could be wrong.
There are pitchers with options besides spellcheck
but it mostly guys that you would keep , Marshall, Gregg , Vizcaino or guys who may not make it like jose Ascanio, Randy Wells , Kevin Hart. The problem is guys like Cotts & Guzman who are out of options and may not make the team but they have enough arms with options to play around a bit.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Feb 21, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions

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