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BCB 101: An Overview Of Posting And Commenting

Last November I put up this post about FanPosts and FanShots, to try to explain the difference between them, and give some hints about what makes for a good post of each type, and what they are for.

Recently, though, I've noticed a spate of duplicate posts (last night, we had the third post about Nomar Garciaparra in the last three weeks), and so I thought it was time for a longer post giving much more detail about this site, how to post here, what constitutes good formatting, etc., especially with the first spring training game tomorrow, which will once again ramp up participation here.

Thanks to my colleagues at South Side Sox, Lookout Landing and Red Reporter, from whose outstanding guides I have borrowed much of what you see here and adapted to our community and what have become the norms here.

Many of you have been around since BCB was created in February 2005 and went through The Great Migration to the new platform last March. For those of you who are new, or still not quite acclimated to the system, this post is meant to be a guide to new members and a refresher course for power users. First, for new BCB'ers, take a look at the basic SB*Nation Welcome Guide. After that, read below for a more in-depth guide and specific expectations for Bleed Cubbie Blue.

BCB is NOT a message board. It isn't a talk radio call-in show. The headline at the top of the page reads "A Chicago Cubs Fan Community Since February 9, 2005", and that's the most concise way I can describe this site. BCB itself is a blog, one which has built a community feel to it over the last 4 years. And unlike some blogs that talk at you, BCB offers FanPosts and FanShots where you can drive the conversation.

Follow me after the jump for an extended guide into FanPosts, FanShots and commenting.

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FanShots

FanShots are quick posts, links, images or videos from around the internet -- it's not just for photos, as at least one person here mentioned to me; there are several different types of things you can put in a FanShot.

When Should You Post a FanShot?

  • Whenever you find a link, a quote, a video, a photo, around the internet that you think your fellow BCB'ers will enjoy.
  • When you don't have any commentary to add other than your link, video, photo or quote.
  • When you can't meet the 75 word minimum for a FanPost

How Do You Post a FanShot?

1. Click "New FanShot" -- Seems simple, right? While logged in, visit any page of BCB and click the handy "New FanShot" button. Enter the link or pic URL in the proper place.

2. Use the FanShot Bookmarklet -- Clicking and dragging the "Share on SB*Nation" button (which you can find here at the top of the FanShot section, right underneath the top ad bar; just click "FANSHOTS" on the front page to get there) to your bookmarks bar (the area under your address bar in your browser) will allow you to post to BCB quickly and easily while browsing the internet.

Once you have a "Share on SB*Nation" button in your browser, you have one-click posting of FanShots at your fingertips. Clicking the button will bring up a dialog box that looks like this:

FanShot dialogue box

Just select the type of FanShot you wish to post, apply the proper tags (more later) and hit publish (that "Front Page" check box is for me as the site admin, to put it on the front page if I choose -- you've seen the blue box posts on the front page; those are FanShots that I've posted).

FanPosts

FanPosts are just like front page stories, except they're written by you, the BCB reader. You can help keep the best FanPosts on the list longer by recommending them using the "Rec" link at the bottom of the post. Four recommendations puts a FanPost on the rec list.

What makes a good FanPost?

  • Make It Substantial. When I say "substantial", I don't mean it has to be a dissertation or manifesto. But if you see the dreaded 75 word warning, it's either time to put some more thought into your FanPost or start over. If your post contains something like this:
    words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words words

    ... then it's probably better as a FanShot.

  • Make It Relevant. Your FanPost should relate to the Cubs or baseball in some way. If you want to talk about the Bulls or the Bears or the Blackhawks there are sites on SB*Nation for that. If you want to do nothing more than post a link to your site, you're probably a spammer, and should expect your FanPost to be swiftly removed. If all you want to do is post a link to a news story or other online article or page, try a FanShot.

    I don't want to completely discourage Off-Topic FanPosting, particularly during the offseason when many of us are thinking football or hockey. But if you're new and if you haven't made a FanPost before, your FanPost on tennis probably isn't going to be received very well. If you do make an Off-Topic post (meaning, specifically, that it is not related to the Cubs or baseball), please put OT: in front of your post.

    Off-topic conversations happen all the time at BCB. In some threads, half the comments wind up being off-topic. Some other SB*Nation sites have a Daily Link Dump FanPost or some other form of daily off-topic conversation. I'm not against starting something like that on BCB, but nobody has taken the lead. If anyone would like to do that -- it would involve finding 10 or 15 relevant links each morning and making a FanPost -- feel free to do so.

  • Make It Timely. This is something I feel very strongly about. If the link you're posting is a day or two old, chances are it's been posted once or twice before either in the comments or FanShots (more later). Check to see if it's been posted before. Please use the search function (located at the upper right of the front page) to see if your topic has been covered in the last few days. If it has, your thoughts on that topic can and should be posted as a comment on the original post.

    If you do have some breaking news, post away. Even though I try, there's no way I can be the first to hear/read/see every piece of breaking Cubs news. That's where you can help. See above, though; if there's a Cubs trade or signing and you think that you are absolutely, positively the first one to hear about it, please take a look at the post list first; someone else may have beat you to it.

  • Make It Coherent. You are much more likely to get someone to read your post if you follow some very simple rules:

    ● Use proper spelling. You're not sending a text message. There's no need 4 U 2 use "time saving" abbreviations which only lessen the value of your post. It's like writing a position paper in crayon.

    ● Use punctuation. You wouldn't stand up and attempt to give a speech in one breath, and you shouldn't try to make your FanPost one big sentence that never ends.

    ● Use multiple paragraphs. There is something about reading text on the internet that makes reading a large block of text unpleasant and occasionally difficult. The ENTER key can be your friend in comments. In posts, use the "P" button to make paragraphs; highlight the text you want in a paragraph and hit "P"; it will put the proper opening and closing tags there.

    ● Use proper formatting. You'd be amazed how much better your piece will be received if it's formatted properly. If I'm greeted by a wall of text in your FanPost, I'm probably not going to make it all the way through. Break it up. Make it more than one paragraph. Use the 'B' and 'I' buttons for bold and italic text, respectively.

The tech team at SB*Nation has built a powerful WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) editor, which I can't tell you much about because I usually use the HTML editor (which is the default box you get if you're making a FanPost). However, if you know how to format using Microsoft Word, you can make a perfectly formatted FanPost here at BCB.

● Start by opening Word.
● Write your post completely in Word, making all your formatting adjustments there.
● Highlight and Copy your work.
● Click New FanPost
● Click the "Paste From Word" icon (upper right icon in the WYSIWYG editor)
● Paste your content into the dialog box.

Give it a Descriptive Headline -- "Question" may, in fact, be what you are posting, a question you want us to consider; but that doesn't exactly inform us what the topic is about. Your headline should be informative, above all else, with bonus points for creativity.

Examples:

Poor Headline: Orlando Hudson (this is an actual FanPost headline from last weekend)
Good Headline: Should The Cubs Have Gone After Orlando Hudson?

Poor Headline: Nomar Garciaparra (this is an actual FanPost headline from yesterday)
Good Headline: Bringing Nomar Back: Pros & Cons

Poor Headline: What Do You Guys Make of This? (this is an actual FanPost headline from last week)
Good Headline: Brian Roberts And Jake Peavy: I Want 'Em. Do You?

Stylistically, I have chosen to have all my headlines begin each word with a capital letter. You don't have to do that, but if you do, you'll match the site style and -- well, it'd make me happier.

Tagging

Tagging dialogue box

To the right of the text area in both FanPosts and FanShots you'll find the area for tagging your posts, as shown in the illustration above. Tagging is important because it helps your content show up in searches and in dynamically-rendered content areas, such as on a player page or in the new "More from Bleed Cubbie Blue" box at the bottom of each post. It helps increase your post's exposure.

Tagging is simple. Just type the topics of your post into the area cleverly labeled "tags." Use commas to separate tags, as shown above. If you type a tag that's already been used at BCB, it'll begin to autocomplete.

Players and Teams have their own dedicated area, which will help link your posts to the proper Player and Team Pages. These fields also auto complete, just begin typing the player's name and it should fill in, as shown above; I typed "carlos marm" and Carlos Marmol's name appeared. When this happens, just click on the name and it'll stick with the post.

If you want to have a poll with your post -- click "Attach Poll". The options that come up are self-explanatory; just remember to save your poll when you're done. The "Attach Event" option allows you to tie your post to a specific game. Clicking the "Attach Event" button will bring up a box that lists the Cubs' past and future games -- click the drop-down box to select "completed", "upcoming" or "in progress". Clicking the Add button will make sure you post appears on the page for that specific game.

Commenting

The basic layout of BCB is pretty simple: three colums, with links to various items on the left and and right sides and the primary site content down the middle. In the middle will be news items, Game Threads, game recaps, and other fun stuff like, well, this post.

One thing you may find in an article on the front page is a link that says "Continue reading this post" at the end. Be sure to click that to get to the remainder of the post (as you did with this one). If that link is not there, just click the "Comments" link to start reading the comments.

Navigating Comments

Right before the actual comments, you'll see this:

Comment options

Display lets you change the view of the comments from Expanded (subjects and text) to Collapsed (just subjects are visible).

Checking the Auto-refresh box will toggle on and off the auto-refresh feature in the comments section. When checked on, new comments added to the thread will magically appear with a little note popping up in the corner with the name of the poster who made the latest comment.

Below those two boxes you'll see keyboard commands for navigating a thread. They work as follows:

  • c - using the c key will take you to the first unread comment in the thread. This key does not mark a comment as read. Unread comments show up highlighted in light yellow.
  • x - using the x key will mark the current comment with focus as read. This is how I typically navigate the comments, using c and x in tandem.
  • z - the z key will combine the actions of c and x. One note of caution: often, if a new comment is added above the comment currently with focus (the one you're on), using z or x will actually mark that comment as read before you've read it. I suggest that whenever you see a new comment box pop up in the corner, pushing the c-button before hitting z or x to make sure you don't mark comments above your current point as read.
  • r - to reply to the current comment with focus, simply press the r key and a reply box will appear. Please try to use the r key (or click "reply") when you are responding to a specific comment; this helps keep a conversation properly threaded.

Reading Comments

When you get into the comments section, you'll see:

The subject line - the bolded area is the subject line. Clicking the subject will collapse the text below it down; click a second time to bring the text back.

Username/avatar - you can click the commenter's username or their avatar on the far right of the screen and it will take you to that person's SB*Nation profile page.

Date/time - after the username is the date/time of the comment. This is also where you will find a link for that specific comment. If you want to refer to a comment in another place, copy the link from the date of the comment and use that URL for your reference.

up - the up link only appears for comments that are a reply to another comment. Clicking up will take you to the "parent" comment to which the current comment is a reply. This is particularly useful in a long thread with many replies to a single comment.

reply - use this link to reply to that comment. Your response will be indented one level and put below the comment you reply to in order based on when responses happened.

actions - this is a special link that allows you to recommend or flag a post. When you click actions, two more links should become visible, labeled Flag and Rec:

The Flag link should be used if you find something offensive or if the commenter is being a troll or posting spam. I hope it won't be necessary to use this button too much. If you Flag a comment, nothing will be visible to you or others, but I will see it in red.

The Rec link allows you to recognize a post that you find particularly informative, useful or that you think others would like to see. At the end of the commenter's line, you'll see a rec count (e.g. 2 Recs). If a comment gets three recommendations, it will turn green and get a big asterisk (not steroid-induced) in front of it.

Posting Comments

When it comes time for you to finally say something within a thread, you can do so via the comment box. This box is the bottom of every thread, or if you'd like to respond to a specific comment, it will magically appear when you click the reply link. As noted above, it would really help if you'd click the "reply" link if you are replying to a specific comment; this will help organize the comments in each post by thread and show each "conversation" as it develops.

Posting Images, Videos And Links In Threads

If you want to post a link in a thread, don't just copy/paste the link into the posting box. Instead, first highlight the text you want to be linkable, and then click the icon at the top of the box that looks like a link. Doing that will call up a dialogue box that looks like this:

Put links here!

Then, copy/paste the URL into the box. If, say, you have highlighted text that says "Click here to go to cubs.com", and then enter "http://www.cubs.com" into the dialogue box, you will get a clickable link that looks like this (don't put the quote marks in the box or your highlighted text):

Click here to go to cubs.com

NOTE! Please check the "Open in new window" check box, so that your links don't navigate away from your post.

For videos, if you find a YouTube video that you want to post in a thread or post (as opposed to a FanShot, where you can post it directly, using the Video tab), find the EMBED code on the YouTube page. It should look something like this:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_VmwOAnKVFA&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_VmwOAnKVFA&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

Paste the above code into your post and you'll get the following video:

About posting images, I know that many of you already post images in posts and game threads. Some of these are baseball-related, of players, and some aren't. Images can greatly enhance your post and add to the information and/or enjoyment that others get. I ask only that you follow a few simple rules:

Keep images small. When I say "small" I don't necessarily mean the physical size of the image (although smaller is generally better); I mean the file size of the image you are posting. Large file size images can slow down threads, especially game threads. I ask for people to keep images in game threads to a minimum.

Keep images clean. They need to be SFW. Just as I don't want profanity on BCB, I don't want images that you wouldn't want to be seen viewing at work, or around your kids.

Thanks for reading this long and detailed post. If you can put some of these suggestions into your own posts and comments, they'll look better and you're more likely to get many more people reading them.

Now let's play ball!

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Just an opinion.....

99.9 % of the time if a Cub related story breaks its posted by one of the many members here within the matter of minutes. If you read a story that’s Cub related take a second to look at the date and time the story was created. If its over 10-15 minutes old “most” of the time its already been posted. Now if your like me and wanna talk about a story and the thread is already way long, I would suggest posting an overflow thread and linking the original poster’s post and continuing the discussion. Again this is all just my opinion I don’t run anything.

I dont care who the new owner is as long as he/she/them come equipped with a Jake Peavy and a Joe Beimel!!!

by cubsluver22 on Feb 24, 2009 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

Overflow threads are fine if the original one gets too long.

If you do that, please mark it as such (Title, for example: “Jake Peavy Overflow Thread”)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Comments in the sections?

As a relatively new BCB member (but oldtimer on Cub fandom scale) I find the clarifications above very helpful.

However, I would like to point out there are several archived sections on BCB that have been closed off to addtional comments. I’m not sure if this is a system/space limitation thing, or an intentional decision by Al. But, to me it is frustrating. As a newcomer, I would love to add a comment or three to the 100 best Cubs section (how the hell does Ron Cey belong?), or add my perspective about a couple of the top HRs in Cub history that I saw in person. I realize that most of you had this conversation, in some cases, two or three years ago, but if we could add comments and have them show as new, then you could decide on your own whether you wanted to dive back in or not.

by BatCubFan on Feb 25, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

The comments close on posts after 21 days.

Yes, I can open them again… but that would involve a lot of work, and I’m not sure how many people would really want to do this.

We often get into discussions on Cubs history especially during the offseason. You can join in then.

Is there anyone else who feels old (as in a couple years) posts should be open to comments?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 25, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

One thing you should mention

is behavior. not often, but it does happen where someone does not agree with another and the response is way out if line, instead of showing respect and being cordial with each other. no one is goind to agree 100% of the time, but there is no need to rip into people IMO.

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 24, 2009 9:29 AM CST reply actions  

Correct.

That comes under “community guidelines” rather than this, which was more a guide to posting nuts & bolts.

But it doesn’t hurt to remind people to be nice to each other.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

My feeling as well.....

((**))

If you had to choose just one characteristic that would get you through life, choose a sense of humor.

by Clutche on Feb 24, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Is that symbol supposed to be John Lennon?

"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09

by daver on Feb 24, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

You are kidding....

right?

If you had to choose just one characteristic that would get you through life, choose a sense of humor.

by Clutche on Feb 24, 2009 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

It does look a bit like the cover of the Imagine album

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Feb 24, 2009 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Dat's what I'm sayin'.

"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09

by daver on Feb 24, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

So what is it then?

"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09

by daver on Feb 24, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Barry Bonds and ARod talking in the batting cage

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Feb 24, 2009 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahhhh, now I see it.

"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09

by daver on Feb 24, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Learn somethin’ new every day.

Didn’t know about writing in Word first, always forget about tagging, and the c/x/z commands can be tricky. I’ve always used “z” button, but the biggest problem with that is when I’m reading (for instance) comment #40, and someone replies to comment #20, if I hit the “z” button to try to “read” that comment, it marks it as read without actually moving my screen upwards to that comment #20 reply. I’ll try to use c/x now instead to prevent that from happening.

As far as images go, we can get a bit crazy during game threads—but that’s half the fun in my opinion. I like the images when the something happens in the game…as long as they are small enough not to “clog” the thread. Do we want to share the BCB Flickr account for sharing some images we typically use? Who controls that, dig ben?

Thanks Al!

Dan

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Feb 24, 2009 9:31 AM CST reply actions  

Might as well share the Flickr group

It’s a good source for images that often pop up in comments, from the Sarcasm signs to Milton.

Here’s the link.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Feb 24, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Very nice, Al...

Is there a way you can make this post a permanent “sticky” for easy reference? (Like permanantly make it a recommended fanpost so it appears up top forever?)

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Feb 24, 2009 9:32 AM CST reply actions  

I'll put it on the right sidebar under "BCB Specials" in a couple days.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Cool. Thanks!

I always have to go back and look at those image/video posting instructions….

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Feb 24, 2009 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent post, Al

I even learned something! Just to clarify on the issue of image posting, what sizes do you consider big and small? You may want to add that to the text so we’ll know what ballpark (heh) to keep them in.

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Feb 24, 2009 9:33 AM CST reply actions  

I think...

… if you can keep images under a file size of about 100Kb, we should be OK.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

25-50 KB is standard for web sites

72 dpi

JPG quality = 30

There are many free image resizing/reducing tools.

Paint.net is one of them. Get it here.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Feb 24, 2009 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks.

As I said, the smaller the better.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

This is great fla

confess I didn’t know they existed.

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Feb 24, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

and reducing does not lose quality

when posting to the web

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Feb 24, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Seashore or GIMP? I don't use a Mac, but have heard of these

Seashore

or

GNU Image Manipulation Program

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Feb 24, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks much

Downloaded both. Couldn’t get GIMP installed but got Seashore loaded up. Looks pretty cool. Probably beyond my complete comprehension but should be able to figure parts of it out.

Look out, SWL… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Feb 24, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Let me know how Seashore works for you

so that I may recommend it to others (or not).

I’ve heard lots of good stuff about it, but I’m not a Mac user.

I use Photoshop and Paint.net on my Windows PC.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Feb 25, 2009 8:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Good post

I’m tired of seeing thousands of Peavy, Roberts, Nomar, etc. articles.

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Feb 24, 2009 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

If you like one, then just recommend it so that it can be up top..

I do think the number of people it takes to recommend a post should go down from 4 to 3, though..

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Feb 24, 2009 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually...

… I’d like to see people recommend posts more often, if they see posts they like and think are worth discussing for extended periods on the rec list.

There are hundreds of people commenting here… it shouldn’t be too hard to get 4 recs for a well-thought-out post.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

or dont know you can do it.

I had no clue until one of my comments turned Green (not from greenies) and I had to ask why it did.

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 24, 2009 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Well..

…. hopefully, this post explained all that a bit better so you can do those things.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

i figured it out

at that point, but i am sure tis helps to explain it to others

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Feb 24, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent!

Al, this is very well done. I skimmed some parts and will return when I need the specific reference — like tagging.

I would add this one tiny thing:

It is true that if you are posting something a half-hour old you are NOT the first person to post it.

It is EQUALLY true, however, that we only need one person to point it out to the original poster. And frankly, if it offends you so much, just stay out of the thread and let Al handle it.

I get that it’s annoying to see double and even triple-posts. However, one would think the offenders had committed actual physical harm, given the goofy reactions.

At the end of the day, it is annoying, but certainly not the end of the world, when you see two posts on the same topic. Like my man Darwin said, the stronger one will win out anyway.

Thank you on the poor/good headline bit. That was very much needed as well.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Feb 24, 2009 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

I would like to see a big off-topic fanpost made every day

But I know I would never pay attention in class or get anything done at work.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Feb 24, 2009 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

This is a good idea

I wish more people used common sense. If your topic is not likely to garner more than 50 responses it should probably be a fanshot. If you’re just going to ask for everyone’s opinion it should probably be a fanshot. If you’re just going to throw out some blurb from the internet or radio, it should probably be a fanshot. I think a good majority of these aforementioned fanshots could probably all be combined into one OT topic of the day Post.

Now, if your post should garner more than 50 responses it will likely be “Rec’d” enough to make it stand out to all readers for days if not weeks to come, so it won’t get lost in the shuffle.

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by tony412 on Feb 24, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Al, you've made an old newspaper man smile

Who’d have thought I’d see someone try to explain how to write a good headline? Nicely done.

Where is Mick Kelleher when we need him?

by 3744nsheffield on Feb 24, 2009 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

I smile when Al uses the term "below the fold"

In advertising, I’ve used the term “above the fold” probably too often.

This is an old newspaper term referring to the upper half of the front page of a newspaper, folded up so that only the top half of the front page is visible.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Feb 24, 2009 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Use. The. Search. Function.

Funny Pics / Search, Not New Thread

"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09

by daver on Feb 24, 2009 10:36 AM CST reply actions  

All new Fanposts should be approved by Al Yellon first

Use the Fanshot function to post “breaking news” and the obligatory update on Jake Peavy, Brian Roberts, etc.

by BLou on Feb 24, 2009 10:55 AM CST reply actions  

Approve each NEWLY created Fanpost discussion thread

Seriously, and the title header should be DESCRIPTIVE of the subject matter.

by BLou on Feb 24, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

No, I don't need to do that.

I just would like everyone who posts here to follow the simple rules in thi post.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I just thought of something

Most of the non search using, one liner, repeat, careless posters on here probably won’t take the time to read through this post to learn how to not continue to do what they’re doing.

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by tony412 on Feb 24, 2009 11:13 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah, I had the same thought myself.

Then again, if we can get through to at least one nonsearching, one-line typing, topic repeating, ad hominem hurling poster, perhaps our efforts will have been worth it.

"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09

by daver on Feb 24, 2009 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

Al, in cases like this, would it be appropriate to just post a link back to this post instead of commenting on it?

"I'm a Cubs fan. I'm very, very patient." -- from a Shoe cartoon.

by No Southern Belle on Feb 24, 2009 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, I think that would be an excellent idea.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha, I'll remember that.

"You've got to earn winning your division. We won more games than anybody in the National League last year, and we're going to have a target on our back, so we've got to be ready.'' - Lou Piniella, 2/17/09

by daver on Feb 25, 2009 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Is this where I post my entry for the caption contest?

The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.

by sanantonecub on Feb 24, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply actions  

Highly recommend bookmarklet for FanShots

Warning, this is addictive.
The bookmarklet resides in your toolbar. If you find a story you like, you can click on it and immediately post it to BCB (or other blogs on SBN if it relates to something else).

A couple of tips. By default if you just click it, it will go the the link option in the FanShot. You can also highlight text on a page, click on the bookmarklet, and it will put the highlighted text in the box for you and put you on the quote part of the fanshot page. You can do the same with an image or a video. You can have an image posted to a FanShot on BCB in literally seconds.

Here’s an image

And here’s a quote from Al right above this…

I run SLCDunk, the Utah Jazz blog for SBN and use these all the time. Just make sure if you’re posting between multiple blogs you pick the correct one from the drop-down list as it saves your last one. I’ve posted multiple Jazz-related items on BCB by mistake.

by Basketball John on Feb 24, 2009 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

If you don't like a subject...

… you’re are not mandated to post on it.

Often times things here are redundant but sometimes they’re rehashed from several weeks or months ago. Invariably people will post that they’re sick of the topic or debate. Ya know what… you’re free to move onto the next subject. For those who are sick of Pete Rose, Steroids, Sammy Sosa, etc, save your editorials on the subject matter. Yes, if something has been posted fairly recently then it need not be done so again. But there are people who aren’t here 24/7 and they may wish to bring up something that has been posted within the last calendar year. If you’re tired of the subject, feel free to debate another topic.

by dmlichte on Feb 24, 2009 3:09 PM CST reply actions  

Sure, if something was posted several months or a year ago...

… it can be revisited.

It’s the repetitious posts from a day or two before that’s the issue.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Simple solution

Anytime a new fanpost is posted in, it goes to the top of the list, rather than the list being based on the date it was started.

by kanderber on Feb 24, 2009 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

That'd have to be a feature request to SBN.

You’re welcome to send it to support (at) sbnation (dot) com

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 24, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

You kinda have that already

Just click on the FanPosts link on the main page and you’ll go to a list of all the FanPosts. Several tabs – each with a different sort. Default seems to be the second one – “Recently Active” – which I think is what you’re asking for.

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by ballhawk on Feb 24, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Am I the only one that cannot navigate thru this thread using Z,C, or X?

It works in all other threads.

"Every team will win 60 games, every team will lose 60 games, it's what the team does in the other 42 games that decides the season."

by flachimesa on Feb 24, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions  

+Z

"Who's Bob Brenly? The guy that used to be the manager for Arizona?" ~ Alfonso Guilleard Soriano

by JohnM on Feb 25, 2009 3:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was actually having occasional problems with this.

Not sure why that’s happening. You can mark comments as read by reloading the page.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Feb 25, 2009 4:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Every now and then it seems like the servers don’t keep track of read/unread for me.

by ol Pete on Feb 25, 2009 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Good God this is one long post.

I could summarize this in one sentence:

Use the software, or get flamed.

by NittanyCub on Feb 25, 2009 10:19 AM CST reply actions  

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