Juan Gonzalez, Rafael Palmeiro, Ivan Rodriguez. Sheesh.

We live in a forgiving society, particularly when it comes to our sports heroes, and I think he is wise to admit it now so everyone can move on. We’re more likely to forgive those admit their mistakes (Giambi, Pettite) than those that continue to deny wrongdoing despite overwhelming evidence (Bonds, Clemens, Rose).

… but I am tired of these admissions. Funny how the players only admit to using for a very short period of time, but then they realized it wasn’t for them… I don’t believe a single one of them. Arod is admitting only as much as he has to admit. If you believe these guys only used one, twice, just for one season, etc, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

he will get into the hall for this

A bit surprised he came clean so quick….maybe we’ve just come to expect all the B.S. others have tried to use. I like the fact that even his reasoning for taking steroids seems truthful. He felt the pressure of a big contract and needed some help to make sure he wasn’t a bust. Probably the base to why everyone else does it or has done it. No big shocker just glad to finally hear it from someone. Not this I though it was vitamin B or I only tried it twice and I have no true reason why bull crap.

When there is so much money involved in sports nowadays, it’s naive to think players won’t do almost anything to get an edge. I look at baseball like all other sports… they’re entertainment.

I’m glad he admitted it, now it’s time to move on and not beat this dead horse for weeks and weeks in the papers and talk-radio.

of those who failed a test, I want the list out ASAP to clear my name.

Okay you’re baseball player A.

You know you’re on the list so it might come out.

Do you think about coming clean?

… Jose Canseco, who everyone (including me) vilified when his book came out, turns out to have been correct.

couple of thoughts…

1. A-Rod looks realyl upset and he should be his reputation is tarnished.

2. Good for him for coming clean now. He must have learned from pettite and Giambi.

3. Am i the only one who doesnt care about steroids?

4. The reporter should be forced to give up her sources or go to jail. I find nothing more sad and wrong then people leaking sealed stuff. There is a reason this information is sealed and just like the CIA leak the reporter should give up the sources or go to jail.

5. OT- ANyone who watched the grammys last night how messed up was it that they didnt mention the passing of Roi Moore the saxophonist for DMB. Terrible.

RIP Roi

Although this is the best option he chose. By coming clean now, he inevitably won’t suffer the same fate of Roger Clemens, who most people are disgusted by now. I think this goes to show that A-Rod most likely will not be a HOF now.

The thing that gets me is why do these players, who have such great skills and talent, find it necessary to take steroids? Is it for competitive reasons or do they just strive to win all out, no ethics whatsoever?

Multiple players in many other sports are counting their blessings that they are not under the same investigation………………….yet

does the pitchers who threw the HR’s also get one? Their numbers would also be tarnished by the HRs hit.

Opinions? I vote yes.

Same goes for Sosa, Mac, Bonds, Clemens, and others

not one Asian player has been mentioned in all this to my knowledge

Another part of the story said that players Union VP Gene Orza GAVE A-ROD ( and at least two others) A HEADS UP on the 2004 tests. Orza refused to comment on it but did not deny it. If true this not only means A-Rod is lying that he stopped in 2003 ( why else does he need heads up) but that the union is even more involved than thought. I think Orza MUST answer this question and the media needs to go after him hard till he does.

I might give them a break. they had no problem denying it all and them along with their agents wanted more money, which comes from my pocket as a fan.

I am getting tired of the well i had pressure, and i didnot know what i was doing, and i just wanted to perform my best.

point is you did it, you knew it was wrong, when asked about it you lied and now you get caught and its the old i am really sorry, i just did not know what i was doing.

that line of crap is old, come up with something else like…..yep i did it, I knew i did it, i did not think i would get caught…but i am a lier and a cheat so in good faith, i should repay part of contract and redo my current one……or better yet….quit for the integrity of the game…..these people make me sick.

man enough to do it……..then you should be man enough to pay the price….losers

I don’t have any sympathy for players, who lie about taking steroids, get caught, and then admit they took them. If they would just come forward and be honest, I’d forgive them. But not if they lie… So, sorry A-Rod… you a bad guy now.

Oh… i bet he’s all crying now too. Madonna just called him up and broke up with him. He’s her new Jose Canseco.

Always has been, always will be. A real baseball player doesn’t try and slap the ball out of another players glove while running down the first base line. A real baseball player doesn’t yell at an opposing player to distract them from catching a pop up. And a real baseball player doesn’t take PEDs to get an edge.

A-Rod represents the the exact opposite of why we all fell in love with the game when we were kids.

he cheated, broke the law, got caught, so be it. He made his bed, not he has to sleep in it.

MLB baseball needs to do something. I don’t know exactly what but there needs to be some action as to what they are going to do with all of these players that have done steroids.

I might be crazy but I wouldn’t object at all to a new policy.

Something like this:

Zero-tolerance policy. Anyone who has taken steroids in the prior to the 2008 season is let off the hook. From now on, any player found to have used ANY PEDs AFTER the 2008 season is suspended indefinitely for 3 (even more) years. What about lifetime banishment?

I know, it would be a stretch for MLB and the players union to come to some kind of agreement like this but, hey, something needs to be done. I don’t know if all players that have tested positive should have their names released or not.

If players are STILL using steroids, which they are, MLB needs to show that it isn’t the lackadaisical parent whose child is smoking crack after school.

Anyone else feel the way I do? I just feel like something really needs to be done and MLB needs to send a powerful message. Steroids shouldn’t be and CAN’T be the face (evident or not) of Major League Baseball

but I agree with much harsher that current, and I would include that any team with a player who fails a test CANNOT replace the player on the roster that season, or for 50 games, which ever is longer. Make the team play short handed for this.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/sports-general/20090209/Schilling.104/

but that woman looks crazy

Today I wondered if this would help out Pete Rose’s case for the HOF. If you ask me he always had a good case. However now when you consider that his sort of cheating wasn’t nearly as bad as ARod, Clemens, etc, all the sudden he doesn’t look like such a bad guy.

Thoughts?

since he’s been such an honest guy, then Charlie Hustler deserves his place in the HoF .. Period.

There’s a double standard here at work if you’re going to dress down one and damn another. Does it matter how we got to the truth about A-Rod roiding up or Rose gambling down? Whether one told the truth when busted or one lied like a dog for years? Both Rodriguez and Rose have done some pretty unsavory things and both deserve censure. But me thinks because A-Rod’s been viewed as the affable, high and upstanding moral foil to Barroid Bonds’ surly and withdrawn example the past few years he’s going to be cut a lot more slack among baseball fans then he probably deserves.

I’m not saying that grace shouldn’t be extended to him. Not at all. In the end A-Rod’s no different then any other MLB player who’s been caught. He should be disciplined and he deserves whatever fleeting scorn he’ll catch .. and it will fade in time. The outrage comes when you recognize not only his stature in the game but the fact that he’s steadfastly DENIED it for years.

How really is that ANY different then Pete Rose’s own evasion?

With all of the crap that’s flying in the breeze about how widespread juicing apparently is, we’re now at a point in which we see the collective hand wringing get more and more muted. We’re tired of scandal, we’re ready to just “move on”, we’re wanting our national pastime and damn the torpedoes, full spead ahead. The words “ethics” and “moral implications” really mean very little any more, I think.

Mr. Selig, tear down this wall. Put Pete Rose back in the hall!

1) If you are a nascar driver, would you just put any ol’ gas, additive, oil in your car? In an age with weightlifting, off season conditioning, post-creatine and post-andro, would any major league vet take something they hadn’t checked out, much less run past their advisory board of personal trainers and nutritionists?

2) If this was weighing so heavily on him and he just HAS to come clean, do you think he would have come out and said anything if SI had simply reported that 3 of the 5 highest paid players in the game tested positive, or something which could implicate him, but didn’t name him specifically?

2a) So ARod says that he feels all this remorse now and wants to do the right thing and come clean. If Gammons asked, “So if your name hadn’t been leaked, would you have come forward?” what would ARod say?

…MLB would just come out and give all players the chance to come clean about their steroid usage. If they do, then we move on with no punishment. If they don’t, then lie, then get caught later, be completely banned from MLB forever.

I don’t care if everyone used it, it’s still against the law, and still showed kids its OK to cheat, etc… most of these morons have college educations. They realized what they were doing was wrong, yet didn’t care….

If MLB could get the guts to do this, I think America will look back upon Baseball with a respective light. This steroid issue, even if we so want it to be, it won’t be over for some years. Bonds trial, the HOF voting, etc… its going to be around rearing its ugly head.

I watched a good segment of it… if anyone thinks that he’s come clean, they’re watching a different interview than I. He obfuscated and made it seem like he didn’t know he had done anything wrong until last week when Selena Roberts started bothering him… if thats the case than why did he stop using in 2003? The man did not come clean and the interview was a total joke.

The players are wrong but I don’t blame them at all for trying to get a competitive advantage. Where were these owners during all this (1988-2006)? Why didn’t they see a problem? Why didn’ the union step in? Why didn’t the union support the players who were clean and try and clean up the game? Money was going into everybody’s pocket—that is why it never was a problem.
Luckily for all of us, no matter how hard they try, the owners and the union can’t ruin baseball.

HILAROUS

he used the old throw the cousin under the bus routine and Johnny Damon said “it ould have been worse” reporter" like what johnny" "he could have murdered someone.

Johnny Damon brings the lolz

the dealer who he got them from roomed with his cousin while Yanks were on the road, the PED were not legal in the Dominican and was not available over the counter.

Anyone still feel bad for him?

link to story

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2009/02/19/2009-02-19_arods_pal_the_tainted_trainer_steroidlin.html