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A Waste Of A Perfectly Beautiful Sunday: Cubs 2, Padres 4

I feel dumber for having listened to the MLB Audio feed from San Diego of today's 4-2 Cubs loss to the Padres, their first loss of the spring, on what the SD announcers described (one of the few things that made sense on the broadcast) as a gorgeous, 81-degree, low-humidity, low-wind day, the kind of day that makes me glad the Cubs train in Arizona instead of Florida. I turned on the MLB Network's telecast of the Red Sox/Twins game earlier in the afternoon, and many of the fans there were huddled up, wearing jackets with hoods. And with a blast of lake-effect snow hitting near-lake areas in Chicago today (those of you away from the lake are saying, "What snow?", but here in the city we got about an inch and a half), feeling warm is the way to go.

Anyway. The Padres radio broadcast -- horrible. Even the presence of former WGN radio announcer Andy Masur can't help the cliched, singsongy presentation. Worse than the announcers were the San Diego local commercials, something we don't normally hear on MLB Audio, sounded like they were made in some small town in Kansas (no offense meant to the fine people of Kansas, just that smalltown radio sounds different than big-city radio) rather than in a major league radio market. They called a crowd of 7,072 "large", although that's over 3,000 short of capacity at Peoria Stadium. Thank heavens it was all over in a snappy 2:16.

Flame away, Padres fans, but your radio team is horrible. They bitched about the Cubs not playing more than a handful of major league starters -- they need to take a look at their own team, which has a shot at losing 100+ again this year.

So was this game, or at least the first inning thereof: the Cubs made two errors, one by Jake Fox (see you in Des Moines, Jake), and one by Ryan Theriot, and by the time it was all done, the Padres had scored three runs. That, as it turned out, was enough to win this game. So Ryan Dempster's first outing wasn't bad -- apart from the errors, he allowed only a single, double and walk, and the double might not have happened if the Cubs had been able to field the ball.

Mike Fontenot continued his hot spring, going 2-for-3 with another double, raising his spring average to .417. Spare parts Doug Deeds and Richie Robnett both drove in runs with outs (Deeds, a groundout, Robnett a sac fly). The rest of the Cub pitching staff held the Padres to five hits and one run (off Justin Berg) over the last six innings.

Oh, some guy named Jake Peavy threw three one-hit innings for the Padres today. Wonder if they'd deal him?

Finally, if you're worried that Carlos Marmol's absence for the WBC will affect his role as closer, Lou told Carlos not to worry:

"It's an honor to represent your country," Piniella said. "He's here competing for a job, and he was a little concerned. I said, 'Lay your fears to rest. We'll let you compete for that job when you get back and we'll make a decision then.' No decision will be made without Marmol being here."

Despite the desires of some here, you knew the Cubs weren't going to go 212-0 this year. A loss had to happen sometime. How about 211-1? Onward to facing the D'backs tomorrow.

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Small town Kansas! Com’on! How bout somewhere like…Wasilla, Alaska? At least the Chiefs traded for Cassel…and KU just smacked the crap outta Mizzou today. There’s some Kansas-positive news for ya, ha! Bill Self is gonna be the Coach of the Year the year after winning the national championship and losing seven players to the draft.

Peavy “looked”—or sounded—pretty good today. This game just felt like “Meh”. I don’t really have anything to add to your summary, not much felt real meaningful from the spring game.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 1, 2009 4:53 PM CST reply actions  

OT:

i HATE bill self.

Go Illini.

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 1, 2009 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

Hate Bill Self because he led the Illini to a #1 seed his first season at Illinois? Or because nearly the entire 2005 team was his recruiting? Or because his 3 year stretch was the best W-L record ever for Illinois and included two Big Ten championships? Or because he left for a better school, a better team, the birthplace of basketball, and proceeded to win a national championship? I’m confused, why do you hate him again?

Oh, and Michigan State just beat Illinois.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 1, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a Badger first and foremost. Bucky will always beat the mythical Jayhawk...

I just happen to be getting my PhD @ KU. It’s great to get the perspective from the Big Ten (I was at Wisconsin when Self left), and now hear about how loyal his fans are down here at Kansas.

I don’t think coaches can openly discuss other coaching positions—either lawfully/contractually or out of simple respect—and Self is no different. As much as Self supposedly “lied” to Illinois about leaving for Kansas, it doesn’t get any worse than Roy Williams leaving KU for UNC. Roy left for the one and only dream job he had had throughout his entire lifetime…and I think Self has now found that same home @ KU. T. Boone Pickens tried to lure Bill to OSU last year after the championship run—and was promptly rewarded 10 years/$30 million. It wasn’t like Self was at Illinois for any good length of time, either. 3 years and he was done. The man grew up in the Big 8/12, and I think it’s almost commonsense that he would leave for that conference at some point. If you had to name the top 4 or 5 greatest college basketball programs, Kansas would be in that list. It would almost be silly for most any coach to turn down such an offer.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 1, 2009 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

i understand why he left

i don’t like that he did. left the team in a lurch. He’s a really good coach, and i’d like to hit him in the face. that’s what it comes down to.

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 1, 2009 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

so wait...

… it wasn’t okay that Bill Self left U of I for KU, but it was okay that Bruce Weber left SIU for U of I?

by dmlichte on Mar 1, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

gotta hate those

catch 22’s. i have to sleep somehow.

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 1, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

BTW, that 2005 Illini team was awesome. I absolutely loved Luther Head, he was awesome. At least we can both agree that we all hate Ohio STate, right?!

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 1, 2009 8:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Luther Head

I think Luther was the one from Des Plaines and they kept saying “Southwest suburbs” during one tournament game. Last time I was in Des Plaines, just today in fact it was in the NW burbs.

Never underestimate the power of a redhead!

by puckishcubsfan on Mar 1, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Wrong!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 1, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

hell yes!

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 1, 2009 11:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't like talking much about Big Ten nowadays,

especially after the horrible performances we showed for the bowl games. How embarrassing for everyone.

by NittanyCub on Mar 1, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

football

has never been my thing. goes back as long as i can remember. just never gotten into it, so i ignore it for the most part.

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 1, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree Nittany.

Big 10 needs to step it up…this has become a rough conference to root for lately, that’s for sure.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 1, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, i saw that.

i hate him because he publicly stated that the illini gig was going to be his last one, then weeks later, was at KU. Hate may be too strong a word, but I root against him and KU in anything they do. I dislike them as much as I dislike the cardinals.

Yes, his team of recruits, that bruce weber led, was fantastic. All of them, almost, a few left as they didn’t fit with bruce, but still. Bruce has come around on his recruiting skills, I think we’re going to be a force for quite some time.

But I value loyalty, especially when you say you’re going to be somewhere for some time.

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 1, 2009 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

you value loyalty?

Then you shouldn’t be a sports fan. Coaches move onto the next best opportunity. Its just how it works. And as I asked in a previous post, was it any more acceptable for Bruce Weber to leave SIU for U or I than it was for Bill Self to leave U or I for Kansas? Its what happens… at least Self left U or I with final four talent.

by dmlichte on Mar 1, 2009 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

that i do.

he made a statement, then went back on it. that’s what i didn’t like.

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 1, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

just letting everyone know

that i’m unofficially ending this OT portion of the thread. it’s taken up more of what was on topic, didn’t mean to hijack the thread.

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 1, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

He's the real reason they went to the '05 finals

We all know that to be the truth. He recruited Weber’s team.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Mar 2, 2009 8:21 AM CST up reply actions  

hey! don't dis Alaska! Know what I mean?!

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Mar 1, 2009 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Hear Hear!

Yeah! We are cubs fans up here too!

"I lof to hit de home ron!"

by Tekboy on Mar 2, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully Lou will take notice of Fontenot

ST means next to nothing, but maybe Lou will keep enough of an eye to realize he is the better option at 2b and should be getting more than 400 AB’s

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Mar 1, 2009 5:05 PM CST reply actions  

Fontenot can't hit lefties.

I’m perfectly happy with him and Miles platooning at 2B.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2009 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Looking at today's boxscore

Both of his doubles were off lefties. Now, I understand it’s spring training, and those pitchers aren’t top-notch, but it’s possible that he’s been working more on hitting lefties. Maybe he hasn’t, and today it was just luck or whatever, but maybe he’s been working hard and improving.

"The finish line is just the start of the next race."

by Sobenergy on Mar 1, 2009 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope that's true.

I like Fontenot a lot — I think the Cubs got a real steal when they got him and he is proving why the Orioles thought he was worth a #1 pick.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He had an .893 OPS against lefties last year

in 20 something ab’s, but when he got the chance, he hit them

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Mar 2, 2009 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

.683 career OPS vs. lefties.

Maybe he’s figured out how to hit them. That would, of course, be a good thing.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2009 3:46 AM CST up reply actions  

The Padres announcers

are so bad that they complained about the Cubs not having Mark DeRosa on the field. I guess no one told them he plays for Cleveland now.

by dfrancon on Mar 1, 2009 5:24 PM CST reply actions  

Are you serious?

How long ago did we trade him to Cleveland again?

Cubs record since April 2004: 4-0

by Vermont Cubs Fan on Mar 1, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Pacific time zone over there

They might have not gotten the news yet

by NittanyCub on Mar 1, 2009 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I've long loathed the SD announcers

I didn’t listen today but I assume that it was Ted Leitner. He love to hear the sound of his own voice. He just plain love talking and talking and talking.

by dmlichte on Mar 1, 2009 5:52 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, it was Leitner...

… along with Andy Masur.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 1, 2009 7:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I couldn't stomach the announcers long enough

to stick through the game. I left around the 5th inning or so. This so makes me appreciate Pat and Ron/Len and Bob.

"Truth does not do as much good in the world as the semblance of truth does evil," - Duc de La Rochefoucauld, Maxims, 64.

by Emelie on Mar 1, 2009 6:10 PM CST reply actions  

Semi related note

Rumor has it on some local blogs that Jesse Rogers left the Score to take Cory Provus’ Cubs job

Never underestimate the power of a redhead!

by puckishcubsfan on Mar 1, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions  

Me as well

The announcers were terrible. I listened to 3 innings. That’s all I could muster.

That's shitastic!

by CUBSfaninYANKEEcountry on Mar 1, 2009 9:18 PM CST reply actions  

Now you know

what we have to put up with in San Diego. Ted Leitner is an opinionated a..hole who thinks he’s the ultimate authority on everything. He constantly talks down to his listeners. No way would he last anywhere besides San Diego, a town which is cursed with some of the worst radio personalities anywhere.

by Clark Addison on Mar 1, 2009 10:50 PM CST reply actions  

Oh he's not that bad.

He makes plenty of jokes at his own expense too. He typically only talks down to the idiots anyway. (Raider fans, etc.)

If you think their broadcast sucks, that’s fine. My question is, wouldn’t you expect it to suck? This team never pays top dollar for anything. Why would they spend any money on their broadcast? By the way, I used to love their TV broadcast. Matt Vasgersian cracks me up.

And of course their commercials sound lame. The fanbase here is probably similar to what the Iowa Cubs have. The vast majority of fans in this town only care about the team when they’re performing. Well, they’re certainly not going to perform this year. Why would you expect any of them to care about Spring Training games?

by Kornchex on Mar 2, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Vasgersian cracks you up?

To each his/her own, but I think he’s awful. Smarmy and self-important. He’s a little better as the host on MLB Network, but as a PBP man, he’s horrendous.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 2, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I was VERY glad when the Cubs missed out on him

And that was before I knew how much I’d enjoy listening to Kasper.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 2, 2009 3:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Padres Announcers are Worst Ever

Let me second that opinion as to the padres announcers being the worst. Leitner is an embarrassment. I hate the way he calls them “My Padres” and goes on and on about how wonderful they are, despite the fact they are one of the worst teams in baseball.

In the middle of a good time, Truth gave me her icy kiss. Look around, you must be joking. All that way, all that way for this? -Oysterband

by Ross on Mar 2, 2009 12:37 AM CST reply actions  

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