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Pitching Is King, Part Deux: Cubs 8, Mariners 1

And this time, I mean it: Cubs pitchers were outstanding in today's 8-1 win over the Mariners.

Rich Harden threw two shutout innings, Ryan Dempster followed with three, and Aaron Heilman struck out five in his three innings, and allowed the Mariners' only run. Jose Ascanio finished up; all told, Cubs pitchers struck out nine and walked none, an outstanding performance.

Meanwhile, a lineup that included only three regulars or semi-regulars (Reed Johnson, Mike Fontenot and Ryan Theriot) produced eight runs on 16 hits, with four of those by Doug "Dirty" Deeds, who probably won't have more than a cup o' coffee in the major leagues. Koyie Hill, making a good case for being the backup catcher, also had two hits and raised his meaningless spring training average to .389. (This probably means that he makes the team and hits about .130 during April.) Three Seattle pitchers -- Mark Lowe, Miguel Batista and ten-day Cub Garrett Olson -- gave up all the runs.

Micah Hoffpauir had no hits and two strikeouts today. I blame that on late posting of Erin Andrews photos in the game thread.

The Cubs have their first off day of the spring tomorrow, after playing 15 games in 14 days. Thursday, they will be facing their teammate Kosuke Fukudome and the rest of the Japanese WBC team at Mesa -- and once again, we will not have any audio or video, Gameday will have to suffice. Japan has not announced a starting pitcher; the Cubs will go with Carlos Zambrano.

In the meantime, there is a WBC game going on right now: Netherlands vs. the Dominican Republic, a rematch in which the winner goes to round 2 and the loser goes home. I find myself rooting for the Netherlands, both because they are the underdog and because if the DR is eliminated, Carlos Marmol comes back to Cubs camp, unscathed (he's thrown two good innings, about what he'd have had if he had stayed in camp).

Later this evening, at 9 pm CDT, Cuba faces Australia. Both games are on the MLB Network.

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Jimenez is dominating!

7 Ks through 2 1/3. WOW!

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ubaldo?

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 10, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So is "Dirty" Deeds...

…done? Hopefully he’s dirt-cheap…

by mistersite on Mar 10, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If a player goes down w/ an injury in the WBC...

…is their MLB team still on the hook for their salary?

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 6:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MLB contracts are guaranteed.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 10, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guaranteed as long as players abide...

…by the parameters of the contract, I would think. For instance, Derek Jeter’s contract has all kinds of things he can’t do. It doesn’t seem fair to a club to have to pay a player who hurts himself in the WBC.

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think most teams take out insurance policies on contracts

I think I read the other day that the Yankees have a policy on the A-Rod deal, so they wouldn’t have to pay if he didn’t play due to injury. I THINK thats how it works, but I am far from an expert about that.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Mar 10, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was interesting to read the things he can't do in his contract

I think my fav was he couldnt get plastic surgury. LOL

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 10, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good job

by the Cub pitchers today. Good for Koyie too.

by sue369 on Mar 10, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is an epic game

between NED and DOM.

No, those aren’t 2 people’s names.

Check it out on the MLB network.

Conversation at a Cubs Game
Me "I think it's cool that a lot of Cubs have names that are abbreviations. A-Ram, D-Ro, D-Lee.... how about R-Ther (R-Tear).
Cousin "....that just sounds graphic."

by Beaushek on Mar 10, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice!

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Mar 10, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right.

Terrific game. The Netherlands team is playing well and easy to root for. I’m really enjoying the WBC — far more than I thought I would.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 10, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya

The only story I really remember from last year’s WBC that was even close to Netherlands or Australia was South Africa staying with the USA for a whopping 6 innings.

Conversation at a Cubs Game
Me "I think it's cool that a lot of Cubs have names that are abbreviations. A-Ram, D-Ro, D-Lee.... how about R-Ther (R-Tear).
Cousin "....that just sounds graphic."

by Beaushek on Mar 10, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And by last year...

I mean last tri-year?

Conversation at a Cubs Game
Me "I think it's cool that a lot of Cubs have names that are abbreviations. A-Ram, D-Ro, D-Lee.... how about R-Ther (R-Tear).
Cousin "....that just sounds graphic."

by Beaushek on Mar 10, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pitching is King...

Honesty compels me to say, I love it when the game recap headline says “Pitching is King”.

Hey Lou, we're long overdue.

by deadcatbounce on Mar 10, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WGN

Has anyone heard the WGN radio commercials for the coming season?

They are awesome. WGN does great commercials in general maybe the funniest all time was back in I think 1999 for NU football with the late Randy Walker singing “All 6 home games are at home”

JIXAVERSARY! March 7, 2000 to March 7, 2009. My avatar refers to me participating in the writing challenge and making it~

by cubstoseriesby100 on Mar 10, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man

I REALLY wish dish network had MLB network. I want to watch the WBC.

"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti

by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 10, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm scared to death about the health of a few of the Cubs pitchers

If they all stay healthy we have a sick pitching staff. If our middle relief can be even just above average, this team is going to win a lot of games because of great pitching.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Mar 10, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, what was the deal with the game-threads today?

It was like someone opened up a big can of worf-ass or something. And I’m not just talking about the bad case of Hawkiarrhea – things were going south well before the game started with all the Bradley hating and baiting going on. And a lot of it from folks that don’t normally post like that. I hope this isn’t a sign of things to come for the regular season…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 10, 2009 8:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marmol is warming up in the pen

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

2b off marmol

by daily2b on Mar 10, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Man I want DR to lose...

but I don’t want Marmol to be the one to blow it.

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no doubt

very conflicted

by daily2b on Mar 10, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This should be a good pressure test 4 Marmol

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So much 4 being calm under pressure

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I am a bad Cub fan

I am rooting for The Netherlands

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Mar 10, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Houdini

is on his way

Ramlee Zamfukusoridero

by hiphopgamer26 on Mar 10, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the most excited I've ever been about March Baseball

The WBC is a success

Conversation at a Cubs Game
Me "I think it's cool that a lot of Cubs have names that are abbreviations. A-Ram, D-Ro, D-Lee.... how about R-Ther (R-Tear).
Cousin "....that just sounds graphic."

by Beaushek on Mar 10, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You know some punk reporter will criticize Alou...

…for bringing a Cub reliver in to close the game.

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Darn Walking the weenie whacker.

Go DUTCH

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Mar 10, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT AN INCREDIBLE GAME!!!

Was that OUR CLOSER who just blew that????

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOLY JEEBUS

THE NETHERLANDS DID IT

Conversation at a Cubs Game
Me "I think it's cool that a lot of Cubs have names that are abbreviations. A-Ram, D-Ro, D-Lee.... how about R-Ther (R-Tear).
Cousin "....that just sounds graphic."

by Beaushek on Mar 10, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Marmols coming back to Mesa!!!!!!

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Mar 10, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

marmol is furious

threw his glove around

Ramlee Zamfukusoridero

by hiphopgamer26 on Mar 10, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It would have been the best thing...

If most Americans, like me, could have actually watched the game on TV, instead of watching it on Gameday. Maybe this is why the WBC is much more popular in some other countries. Sure, some games are on ESPN, but I guarantee you that if this was on ESPN, then the ratings for the future WBC games this year would be much higher. Now, when someone mentions how great this game was, all I could say is I watched it on Gameday, even though if it was on a TV station I have, I would have watched it.

"The finish line is just the start of the next race."

by Sobenergy on Mar 10, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry to hear that you don't have the MLB Network.

Maybe it will be replayed on MLB.com for free.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 10, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats crazy

Thats like the US losing in basketball back in 04

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Mar 10, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sort of like a #16 seed beating a #1

in the NCAA basketball tournament (which has never happened).

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 10, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1980 US Hockey team vs Russia

a young team of never will be, vs a true HOF caliber team

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 11, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume somebody mentioned

Kerry pitched a scoreless inning today. I am afraid this is likely to scar Marmol.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Mar 10, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it, theyre different animals entirely

he’ll be juiced up, in the figurative sense, once he steps on the Wrigley mound for his first save as THE closer

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Mar 10, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really

He is going to be the scapegoat of his country. That is not an easy thing to get over.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Mar 10, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has plenty of company

with all of his Dominican teammates.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 10, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marmol looked BAD.

A double, a base hit, and a throwing error. Looks pretty bad!

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, BUT...

…Marmol’s bad pick-off throw allowed the runner @ 1st to go to third.

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he looked like he was not confident

from the first pitch last night.

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 11, 2009 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They got blanked by the Netherlands

until the 11th was it? he’s hardly the scape goat….if anything, its probably Alou

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Mar 10, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

give credit to NED

they out pitched DR for the better part of 20 innings total.

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 11, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That guy Cordemans...

… I wonder why he never got a shot at a major league roster.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 11, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

he survived last May when he was awful. He’ll be fine.

Its not the last big spot Marmol will pitch in.

The shortest distance between two points is under construction.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 10, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think Marmol wishes

he would have stayed in Mesa?

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 10, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many closer points...

….did Gregg just score?

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

goosebumps

incredible win for these guys

by daily2b on Mar 10, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gregg for closer

V.ery D.elusional N.incompoop

Until I think of something better :D

by Rudey on Mar 10, 2009 9:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What a story!

Kingsale on the Netherlands team misjudges a ball that allows the go ahead run score then he scores the winning run for his team. Wow!

This is Marmol getting it out of his system right? right????

by FloridaCubsFan on Mar 10, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

…just, wow.

by 08Cubs on Mar 10, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

unbelievable....

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 10, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

does this ultimately

take something away from the tourney?

by daily2b on Mar 10, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Did George Mason take anything away from the NCAA Tourney when they went to the final four?

Answer: No

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Mar 10, 2009 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lot of firepower

star-appeal gone from the rest of the way…and i don’t watch cbb

by daily2b on Mar 10, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A chance for people to see up and coming players from a country that would otherwise not have a shot

I like the Cinderella story in sports, but I can see your side as well.

"What a great call! Your doing a fantastic job, but people expect me to come out here and be upset. So I'm gonna kick some dirt, you understand?" - Lou Pinella

by Lou In Blue on Mar 10, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as do I

If Netherlands goes any futher, well, that would truly be exciting!

by daily2b on Mar 10, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Cuba trying to top the Astros for worst uniforms ever?

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Umm...

the White Sox uniforms with shorts would like to have a word with you.

by daily2b on Mar 10, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Cuba...

…the 80’s called and they want their jerseys back

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

those are the most modern things in the country.

By a longshot.

by 08Cubs on Mar 10, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont mind the jerseys

as much as the red pants

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 11, 2009 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really wasn't excited about the WBC

but it really is becoming a lot of fun to watch!

by daily2b on Mar 10, 2009 9:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Al must have turned in early.

I hope he T-Voed that DR/Netherlands game

"I never drink water because of the disgusting things fish do in it" -W.C. Fields

by calicubfan on Mar 10, 2009 9:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rerun

I think it will replay in the morning on MLBN.

by 08Cubs on Mar 10, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched the game, then went to sleep.

Will have more to say about it later this morning.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 11, 2009 4:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This doesn't fit anywhere else, so

Once again, the good Dr. Crawdad, who insists Cub fans are obsessed with his team. proves that, at least he is obsessed with the Cubs, if not all Soxie fans.

Linky.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 10, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel an attack comin' on...

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 10, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Lord

The shortest distance between two points is under construction.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 10, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bruce didn't likely write that headline, either.

Most writers don’t write the headlines to their articles — that was probably written by an editor.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 11, 2009 4:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I post a link, and that’s twisting?

You go, girl.

“You are an obsession. Crawdad’s obsession. What do you want him to be? You play ball at Wrigley.”

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You go, gal...
Dr. Crawdad, who insists Cub fans are obsessed with his team

That is an prime example of twisting my words.

I’ve pointed out the hypocrisy of people here who say, “I don’t give a damn about the Sox…” and then have hundreds of posts about the Sox. Or who’ve condemned me for posting here while they post on the SB Nation Sox site. Or people who say, “Cubbie fans are fixated on the Cubbies..” and then that very person lurks at White Sox Interactive!

There you go, gal.

by DrCrawdad on Mar 13, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will admit that the "you go, girl" was unnecessary

I apologize for that — I was a bit squirrley.

For the rest, though, you do seem to focus a lot on that. Which is too bad, because you really do seem to know baseball, and have interesting thoughts. The rest of it obscures that for some, I think.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the apology!

That was very, very cool of you and I respect you for that.

Well, I usually bring that up when someone pounds me for posting here, being a Sox fan and includes those boasts.

I think it’s certainly possible and reasonable for someone to be a fan of one team and follow the other baseball team in town too. I am a fan of the Sox, that’s the team I’m emotionally invested in. However, I (without a blush) admit to following the Cubs. I am a fan of baseball. So, I don’t see why that’s weird to some Cubs and Sox fans.

If I were in NYC, or Detroit or where ever I’d still be a fan of the Sox but I’d follow that local team and wish to discuss that team. And in that arena, if someone pounded the Sox, I’d stick up for my team.

by DrCrawdad on Mar 13, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing wrong with sticking up for your team

And I was sincere with my comment about your baseball knowledge.

People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guess that Marmol blew it for the DR tonight

I’m real happy that he is back with the team, but now I’m worried that this thing will stick in his head.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Mar 10, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Watching the replay on SportsCenter

Wow that Aybar guy really F’d Marmol. When he gets back to camp DLee should tell him not to worry about him doing that stuff. Marmol should never have blown that save, but he got no help from that first baseman.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Mar 10, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want basebal, then there's the Cubs/ Australia game.

OR if you want an upset, then you can watch the Clippers beat the Cavs.
:D

by Nooblet on Mar 10, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Son of a...

>_< I need some sleep.
by “Cubs” I mean Cuba

by Nooblet on Mar 10, 2009 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marmol

I would rather have him lose a game in the WBC than lose one in postseason.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Mar 11, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

1980 US Hockey Team, the Jamaican Bobsled Team, 2003 Marlins, 2009 Arizona Cardinals, 2009 WBC

These are the very reason we watch sports, and put so much effort into a team or sport we love and dedicate so much time and effort to it.

I see so many showing concern to Marmol (and with good reason), pointing to a few plays and/or players on DR for the loss, and almost looking for a way to credit the loss instead of acknowledging the win by NED. Where is the credit to the pitching that handcuffed DR all night, and did so against PR for all but one inning as well?

NED could have easily hung their heads after giving up one run in the 11th, packed their bags, and watched the rest of the WBC from their home. Instead, they went out in the bottom half of the inning, and won the game.

Sure, the loss goes to Marmol, but this is one of those times, where instead of looking at who the loss went to, NED deserves to be praised (even if only for one week of spectacular pitching) for what they have done so far in the WBC against all odds.

A pitching staff led by Cordemans, Stuifbergen and Ponson have shut down an explosive cast of MLB All-Stars between the teams representing PR and DR respectfully. I love seeing that. It shows that the talent worldwide has really stepped up over the past few years, and (unlike American fans, myself included) have taken this tourney a lot more serious than expected.

Honestly, who would have thought that NED would be heading to Miami with two victories over DR? Did anyone think after round one NED would have a team ERA of 1.61 or a team BA of .137 yet moving on? And that would be even lower of an ERA without Michiel van Kanpen and his 27.00 ERA. Talk about living on the arms of a young pitching staff. DR had many chances to score runs, yet was denied by the pitching of NED repeatedly for the better part of 20 total innings of baseball between the two teams.

And how cool is it seeing Bert Blyleven jumping around like a kid again, and seeing him coaching. I believe he is a broadcaster for the Twins (if I am wrong, please correct me) and I would love to see him get into coaching in MLB, maybe similar to Ryno working with the youngsters at AA or AAA level.

Games like this one have changed my views on the WBC. Last go round, the WBC was not as exciting, and was a lot more predictable, this time, there have been some great games, and I am enjoying it. I love upsets like last night, and I look forward to seeing NED continue on in the tourney.

So, yes I am concerned after seeing how Marmol looked last night, and want him to get to Mesa ASAP to have Lou erase that memory, but at the same time, I want to show praise for NED instead of hanging Marmol for this loss. Even Lee Smith, Bruce Sutter, Trevor Hoffman, Goose Gossage, et al blew a save or 50 in their careers. It happens. Before I jump out the window, in fear of our closer, I remind myself that it happens, we have Gregg who can fill that role just fine IMO (if Marmol stumbles), and that NED deserves credit instead of focusing on Marmol or Aybar only.

I tip my hat to those kids, pitching for NED, who showed no concern for the big names they were facing, as they continued to get out after out.

(just my two cents, end rant )

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 11, 2009 8:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well said.

Just one thing… I doubt Bert Blyleven would be interested in starting in coaching now… he’ll be 58 next month, a little old to switch careers. He’s a good broadcaster and is probably just doing this for his country. I’m not surprised he’s so excited.

I agree with you completely about the WBC.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 11, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could this be added to Bert's Hall of Fame resume?

I mean, allowing 4 runs to the Dominican Republic, with that pitching staff? Goodness.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Mar 11, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

Blyleven should be in anyway.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 11, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

was it jsut me, or were others waiting to hear

“DO YOU BELEIVE IN MIRACLES” when the winning run crossed home in the bottom of the 11th?

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by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 11, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why not a roving thing during ST alone

similar toMaddux with SD? I just feel that with all his knowledge, it would be a huge contribution to young kids in any organization, and he is showing that now with his minimal amount of time with this young staff.

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 11, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who knows?

Maybe. The Twins would probably benefit.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 11, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SORRY

if i seemed a little long winded here

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 11, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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