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Know Your Enemy: Milwaukee Brewers

This week, I'll examine the Cubs' five division rivals, in what I expect to be the order of finish behind the Cubs (yes, like most of you, I am predicting the Cubs will three-peat as NL Central champions). This is also a good time to examine the Brewers, since the Cubs will play them this afternoon at the Crew's home park in Maryvale, west Phoenix.

The Brewers' starting eight, which helped them to a playoff berth last year and 90 wins -- Milwaukee's best win total in 16 years -- returns intact. The Brew Crew's problem is that their starting rotation doesn't, and even though we as Cubs fans have the perception that the Brewers have a powerful offense, all those hitters ranked only third in the NL in home runs and seventh in runs scored.

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We know the hitters well; regardless of what you think of Prince Fielder's physique, the man can hit. However, his .879 OPS didn't even crack the top 10 in the NL, and neither did Ryan Braun's .888 (Aramis Ramirez and Adam Dunn tied for 10th at .898). If the Brewers are going to be contenders instead of pretenders this season, one of those two -- and my guess is that it'll be Braun, who is more accustomed now to left field and ready to enter his prime years at age 25 -- will have to step up and rank in the top 5. Eventually, the Brewers might have to think about moving Fielder (just the mental picture of trying to "move" a man that large is interesting) for some pitching help. The Brewers have some outstanding hitting prospects including Alcides Escobar, Mat Gamel and Lenny Dykstra's son Cutter, so they can probably afford to do this and very well might, maybe even during the 2009 season.

The rest of Milwaukee's offense is solid, though Rickie Weeks has never quite fulfilled the potential that made him the second overall pick in the 2003 draft. He's got good range in the field but has an occasional tendency to make errors at the worst possible time (as he did last July 28 when his throwing error on a potential DP relay allowed the Cubs to tie the first game in that key series, which the Cubs eventually won on their way to a sweep). The Brewers might want to keep an eye on Jason Kendall, who will be 35 in June, has caught almost 1800 games, and had a pretty bad offensive season. Their backup, Mike Rivera, is a decent player and probably deserves more than the 13 starts they gave him a year ago.

That's likely to happen with Ken Macha managing -- one of the worst things from a Cubs point of view to happen to the Brewers was the firing of Ned Yost, whose bizarre decisions may have cost the Crew some victories last year (example: at one point the Brewers were carrying 14 pitchers on their 25-man roster, and without one of them being Brooks Kieschnick, that severely limited their flexibility, as in this bizarre game against the Cardinals where a reliever (David Riske) had to bat and another pitcher (Jeff Suppan) had to pinch-hit because Yost didn't have anyone else available. (The Brewers won anyway, because the Cardinals were just about as short of players.)

It's that pitching staff that may be Milwaukee's undoing this year. We all know what CC Sabathia did for the Brewers after his acquisition and what Ben Sheets did before his arm, apparently, completely disintegrated (he may wind up missing most or all of this year and has yet to sign, though it appears if he does, it will be with the Rangers). That leaves Yovani Gallardo as the Brewers' #1 starter. No question, Gallardo has talent, and the freakish knee injury he suffered last May 1 at Wrigley Field appears to be healed and shouldn't affect his pitching. The problem is, after Gallardo the Brewers have Jeff Suppan. Or, to be more accurate, four Jeff Suppans, because that's essentially what Braden Looper, Dave Bush, Seth McClung and Manny Parra are. None of those pitchers posted an ERA under 4.00 last year, and that's a big comedown from Sabathia and Sheets. Plus, Milwaukee's bullpen strikes fear into no one (except maybe Brewers fans). Trevor Hoffman, the all-time save leader, will close. Hoffman is 41 years old; he did have a fairly effective year last year for the Padres, but who knows when an older pitcher will break down? The rest of the pen (Riske, Carlos Villanueva, Todd Coffey, Jorge Julio, among others) is run-of-the-mill; I could have put almost any four names in there and you'd have about the same bullpen.

Brewers who are having good springs include the ridiculously pesty Craig Counsell; he has a .255 lifetime BA and .254 lifetime BA vs. the Cubs, but it seems like he always gets some sort of key hit against the Cubs despite that silly-looking batting stance. Counsell will be 39 in August and can still back up infield positions capably. Ex-Cub Casey McGehee is hitting .400 with three homers and seven RBI. To which I say: so what? McGehee hit .500 (13-for-26) in 2008 spring training, and .333 in 2007 spring training, and all it got him was 24 September AB with the Cubs (.167, 4-for-24) and his picture on the Cubs' pocket schedule this year (see photo). I suppose McGehee, who can also catch (sort of), might make the Brewers as their 25th man. He is the poor man's Scott McClain. Ex-Pirate Chris Duffy is also having a good spring, hitting .325 (13-for-40, a team-leading 8 RBI) and may make the team as a spare outfielder.

The Brewers are still a good team, but I don't see them winning 90 games again. Mid-80's is a more likely target, and a postseason berth seems out of reach. Ken Macha, though, won two division titles with Oakland A's teams that weren't expected to do as well as they did, and won 88 or more games all four years he was there. He'll get more out of the Brewers in the first month of the season than Ned Yost did in six full years.

Predicted finish: second place, no playoff spot.

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by memphiscub on Mar 16, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Based on that analysis....

…I will predict Cubs win the division by 11 games in the L-column.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Mar 16, 2009 8:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

From your keyboard to Wrigley Field.

That’d be real nice.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 16, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems pretty accurate.

The one thing I will say, I could very easily see Parra making a jump and becoming their #2 starter. He has pretty good stuff, if he can keep the walks down I think he’d make a pretty decent #2 behind Gallardo, who I really like. Even though I tend to agree they should trade Prince, I don’t see it happening this year.

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Mar 16, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There have been some rumors...

… not substantiated, that a Fielder-for-Matt Cain deal would make sense for both the Giants and Brewers.

My guess, though, is that Prince is headed to the AL to be a DH within a couple of years.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 16, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bush isn't bad either. A couple bad outings blew up his ERA,

Eric Gagne DL time: May 23-June 29 Brewers record in that span: 20-9

by NoahJ on Mar 16, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you guys gotta help me

my kid is doing little-league for the first time this year, and the name of his team is… the Milwaukee Brewers.

Do I need to wear my cubs shirts underneath my regular clothes just to keep the bad mojo away?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Before you leave the house

you must face Wrigley and tell the Cubs’ Gods that your cheering for the “Milw” team is strictly your kid’s team and in no way does that action imply cheering for the MLB team 90 miles N. of Chicago.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Mar 16, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

will that be sufficient?

perhaps I should also sacrifice a Goose Island Ale and a Chicago Red Hot before every game.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wear as many Cub clothes as you can to his games.

My son has been on the White Sox and Cardinals for his baseball games. Oh, the shame of it. (Especially the year he was on the White Sox, and the coach was a huge Sox fan and used to diss the Cubs. During a kids’ game.)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 16, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats wrong

the littleleague team should be about teaching the kids and having fun, not dissing a Pro team

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 16, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, but

White Sox fans can’t help them selves…

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaches creed every season is:

Development, fun & safety

Dissing anyone especially at that young age just ends up making kids think its OK to do what NFL and NBA players do.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Mar 16, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Sure, coaches and kids want to win, everyone does. But putting that ahead of the other more important things you mention is just plain wrong.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 16, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Something that can be viewed strictly as a random variable

and you have that kind of crap. And the rest of them wonder why the team has no respect. There’s a reason why.

Don’t feel bad Al. My girls team – which there are no MLB team references – played a few games last season who’s coaches were not afraid of letting people know their alliance, if you know what I mean.

When between [our games’] innings I was checking the Cubs score on my PDA, one of them asked me about the teams’ 9 miles south score and I promptly replied, “who?”

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Mar 16, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may be

an assistant coach. We’ll have to see. Also, when his team plays the Cubs, that might be a bit confusing..

I have, at least, taught him to stop throwing like a girl. Sigh.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do it...

become a coach, that is.

You’ll forever be a changed man for it.

As for throwing like a girl, you should see some of the 12-yr olds I have this season…and not what you may think. 3/4ths of them can gun it and the other 1/4th does OK.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Mar 16, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there are some kids in this league

who appear to throw better than Ryan Theriot, and have a longer range on the ground, too. :D

I do want to coach. They asked I wait till after my first year.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's good too

Plus, in your best Mr. Cub voice you can always say, “the Cubs will shine in two thousand nine”.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Mar 16, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could also say

at the end of every one of Max’s games, “let’s play two!”

Or is it “Lets play two”? :P

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

make sure to refer to the team as

(your neighborhood) Brewers, never incorporating the name Milwaukee with it.

I.E. Naperville Brewers

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 16, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

amazingly

the name of the team is “Milwaukee Brewers”. I don’t know why. So the whole team name is “Westdale Milwaukee Brewers.”

However, I think I’ll adjust it. :P

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's really weird.

In the league my son played in, they were just the “Cubs” or “Cardinals” or “Mariners”. No city name.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 16, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never heard that before

Even my little league in the 70’s had only the nicknames. Ironically my teams names were always an NL team: Cards, Cubs, Dodgers & Phillies.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Mar 16, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, me neither

but that’s what he said on the phone. We’ll see when the uniforms come out.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uh oh... I sense a last-second "Chico's Bail Bonds" unveiling...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 16, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Milwaukee (Avenue) Brewers?

In little league in Oak Park we were named after indian tribes, and later our sponson

I played for Sauk, Shawnee, B&J Sporting Goods

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 16, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find it odd

that they would name a kids’ team the Brewers. Is that subliminal advertising of alcohol to kids? lol

by gizmo6d9 on Mar 16, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as long as it's overt for the coaches

I’m fine with it. :P

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drew...

there is no shame in wanting your kids team to lose. I’ve rooted against my sons teams PLENTY of times.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 16, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you George Steinbrenner?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...

I’m just not up to multiple rounds of playoff games and brutal all-star/travel team schedules and costs. If they lose early…I get my life back.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 16, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah.

This isn’t a traveling team. :D

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do we care what Figgins thinks?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 16, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

is CHONE a stat?

maybe it stands for

Catches
Holding
Only
Nine
Eels

Ryan Theriot OWNS that stat.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally

doesn’t cover eels. :P

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Mar 16, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else notice

that after all these years Counsell has finally changed his batting stance?

http://thegettinplace.blogspot.com/

by TheTruth11 on Mar 16, 2009 11:10 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah but it's spring training - lots of players experiment with weird stuff during spring training

though in this case, Counsell seems to be experimenting with normal stuff… ;-)

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 16, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, in spring training guy will always try stuff out that they've never tried before...

why just a couple days ago, Dusty Baker gave a hitter the “take” sign.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 16, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In response to Counsell not raising the bat as high

Bob Uecker said during a game “Well, he’s another year older, maybe he’s having trouble getting it up”

by grant76 on Mar 16, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Counsell may be declining, but Uecker is as good as always.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 16, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+10 for the Yook.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 16, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He tried that last year too...

… but over time his stance morphed back into that ridiculously high-bat pose before the pitch is delivered. I suspect the same thing will happen again this year.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 17, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Al,

You have kind of a strange sentence:

If the Brewers are going to be contenders instead of pretenders this season, one of those two — and my guess is that it’ll be Braun, more accustomed now to left field and ready to enter his prime years at age 25.

I know what you are trying to say there but you don’t really say it.

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Mar 16, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoops, you're right.

I think it should have said “who is” more accustomed. I’ll fix it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 16, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You maybe haven't had a chance to correct it yet...

Forgive me if I’m harping, and maybe you haven’t had the chance to correct it, but you added the “who is” part, but then forgot to add in the ending to the sentence. As it stands, it still doesn’t specify what “one of those two” is referring to [I’m guessing you were going to say something like either Braun or Fielder will need to do x, y, and z for the Brewers to compete…]

Even so, very much enjoyed the post. Thanks Al!

by CubsWin!Oregon on Mar 16, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ack.

I read it again. You’re right again, I’ll fix it. This time for sure.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 17, 2009 4:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Solid assessment, Al.

I’d be happy to see Milwaukee finish second by five to 10 games if it means they kept the Cards and Reds at bay. I could still see any of the Brewers, Cards or Reds posing a threat if various things fall their way (Dusty Baker sucked into an alternate dimension, for instance) and the Cubs can’t establish early dominance.

I’m a little surprised no Evil BCBers have shown up to dispute your rundown…

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 16, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they agree with most of it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 16, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t agree with most of it, but its opinions. I guess I think of those as things to be read and digested rather than going back and forth attempting to convert whoever you disagree with (especially on a Cubs blog [and given by the big cheese]).

by ol Pete on Mar 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't disagree with the overall conclusion...

… though I do disagree with your thougths on a couple of specific players. I think Parra’s got a chance to make a leap forward, but someone already raised that possibility. Mid-80’s for win totals sounds about right to me, with 82-88 wins being the likely range of possibility. As for the playoffs, I’ll agree that 88 wins isn’t going to win the division, though I think there’s an outside chance it’s good enough for a wild card.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 17, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

… I think referring to anyone other than Jeff Suppan as being his rough equivalent is profoundly uncalled for. :) Bush, Parra and Looper are better than Suppan, as they demonstrated last year and will likely do again this year. I think McClung would do the same were he given the chance, but it looks like he’ll end up in the pen.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 17, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One thing we should keep in mind

is that the Brewers were very competitive with the Cubs before they ever got Sabathia. If you consider Gallardo for Sheets even up, they might not be in any worse spot than last year at this time. The hitters have only gotten one year older and maybe one year better.

by jerry morales rules on Mar 16, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It'll be interesting to see how Gallardo reacts.

Here’s a young kid who’s essentially being asked to carry the team. I would guess that expectations of Parra are a bit lower.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 16, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From BrewCrewBall

 
Al at evil BCB is a dummy
"The problem is, after Gallardo the Brewers have Jeff Suppan. Or, to be more accurate, four Jeff Suppans, because that’s essentially what Braden Looper, Dave Bush, Seth McClung and Manny Parra are."

These kinds of people is what make me “hate” other fans. Sure i like healthy rivalries but some people just make me sigh..

ROSE DRIVES TO THE HOOP...
its like a comb through Vinny's hair.

by Rudey on Mar 17, 2009 1:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Side note

Hard to lump Parra in with their other junk. Parra has quality, TOR (more 2, if not 2/3) type upside,

I’ve said the same thing all winter – IF Gallardo and Parra pitch close to their potential, this is a better team than most people are giving them credit for. IF Gallardo and Parra pitch close to their potential, that might be one of the better one-two tandems out there.

Granted, that’s a big if, and along with that, you’d have to have everything else fit in place, so I agree with Al’s assessment of a mid-80’s possibility. I think I like the Cardinals better, but it’s close. Even if Gallardo and Parra pitch close to their potential, they would need another arm to step up. I think the bullpen will be better than people think, and they certainly have the assets to swing one big deal. That just, too many pieces that need to fall correctly.

by toonsterwu on Mar 20, 2009 5:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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