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What, Seattle AGAIN?: Cubs vs. Mariners at Peoria, Thursday 3/19, 3:05 CT

For the third time in the last ten days, the Cubs will face the Mariners (and on Sunday, they'll make it four times in 13 days). That's a lot of contact with one team in a short period of time during spring training, especially now when teams sometimes only see each other once or twice in the spring.

Derrek Lee hasn't played for the Cubs in a few days (sore quad), but he may play for the USA this weekend in the semifinals. Kevin Youkilis is out with an ankle sprain and Jim Hendry says he won't stand in D-Lee's way if he is asked to go to Los Angeles.

As discussed in this FanShot, I'd be all in favor of this. Maybe playing in a game that means something would get his bat going. Plus, that would give the Cubs a couple of opportunities to play Corey Koskie at 1B to see if he can handle it. The more versatile Koskie can be, the better his chances of making the team.

No surprises: the Cubs won City Council approval for the third concert this July, and also still have the right to block views from the Lakeview Baseball Club if they don't pay their contractually-obligated 17%:

The rooftop club says it first wants compensation for partially blocked views caused by a JumboTron at the Jan. 1 Winter Classic staged at Wrigley.

The Cubs sued the rooftop club this month over the withheld payment, and the group countersued, seeking to prevent the team from blocking its views on Opening Day.

"We hope it doesn't come to that," said Cubs spokesman Mike Lufrano. "We'd like to resolve it, but at the same time, it isn't fair for them not to pay what every other rooftop owner has agreed to pay."

One more note: Former Cubs coach and manager Whitey Lockman passed away Tuesday at the age of 82.

This afternoon, Aaron Heilman, still in competition for the #5 starter slot, will face Seattle's Gaby Hernandez. Other Cubs scheduled to throw today are Neal Cotts, Chad Fox, Mike Stanton and Randy Wells. You may see Geovany Soto back in the lineup today, too. The Mariners will have a split squad -- they play the Padres tonight in their other game -- so who knows what regulars may or may not appear in this game. There is no radio or TV coverage today, but here is today's MLB.com Mediacenter.

MLB.com Gameday

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Angry Heilman demands end to spring training

Please just play some real baseball already.

by dr stabbingworth on Mar 19, 2009 1:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bruce Levine reported that D-Lee

hadn’t been invited to join Team USA and wouldn’t be joining the team if asked.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 19, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Confirmed by Bruce Miles.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Corey Koskie Day!

Lineup courtesy of Bruce Miles:

Miles, 2B
Spears, SS
Hoffpauir, DH
Fox, 1B
Koskie, 3B
Johnson, RF
Wright, LF
Hill, C
Gathright, CF
Heilman, P

That’s Ty Wright, in case you were wondering. I sure was.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Ghost of Milton Bradley likes this lineup.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley's wife went into labor apparently

which is another reason he’s been out of the lineup.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Mar 19, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems fair. Milt's been laboring most of the Spring...

Bud-da-BOOM. Ching!.

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Mar 19, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is an real legitimate reason to miss a game.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless it's not his...

…in which case it’s an illegitimate reason to miss a game.

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rimshot!

Thank you! We’ll be here all week!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember

Tip your waitress’s.

Greg Maddux could put a baseball through a Life Saver if you asked him. ~ Joe Morgan

by Sioux City Cubs Fan on Mar 19, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tip my waitress's what?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 19, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just the tip. I swear.

(Whaddidja think I was talking about?)

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry, where did Ty Wright come from again?

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wasn't he an existential golfer and

a friend of Danny Noonan?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Mar 19, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was bornnnnn to love you...

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Mar 19, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey!

that was what i started typing, but then i remembered all the licking parts.

by JodyDavis on Mar 19, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ewww

Lacy Underall? That’s not disgusting.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Mar 19, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Serious answer?

Oklahoma State. This is his third season in the Cubs system.

One thing I like about him is that despite being born and raised in Texas, he’s a lifelong Cubs fan.

by Josh77 on Mar 19, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, thanks!

And, yes, I was looking for a serious answer. His name hadn’t made its way onto my radar yet.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seattle's Starting Lineup

Corona, 2B
Cedeno!, SS
Tuiasosopo, 3B
Balentin, CF
LeHair, DH
Shelton, 1B
Morse, LF
Burke, C
Gillies, RF
  Gaby Hernandez, P

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Mar 19, 2009 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

Heilman might be really happy to face that lineup. Are there ANY regulars in that list?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see any.

Seattle has a split-squad today, but sheesh.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Mar 19, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cedeno?

"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 19, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ronny in the two-spot! Boo ya!

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS!

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Mar 19, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was too late to help out Micah with an image

He grounded out to end the inning

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Mar 19, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Better make up for lost time...

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Mar 19, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like the fad of the day

as all outs were groundouts.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 19, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs seem to really be highlighting Hoffpauir's

fielding versatility by putting in the DH role today.

Maybe they are trying to show how well suited he is for an AL team?

"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru

by LAcarl519 on Mar 19, 2009 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So when does the Great Koskie experiment at 1B begin?

Today would have been a perfect opportunity, no?

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 19, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't have hurt.

I mean, he can’t be worse than Adam Dunn. (Yes!) Maybe they want to make sure he can still play third base.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hello

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Mar 19, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

I’ve got MLB’s mobile gametracking thingy running, but it updates so slowly there’s really not much to say. I get so frustrated with Gameday during spring training, I don’t even bother with it anymore.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The looooooonnnng pause

makes me think something bad happened.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 19, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Naw...

…the Gameday dude went for a hot dog.

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Martha really knows her way around a long wiener.

What?

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note the individual behind Martha is wearing a Yanks hat.

That means something. When I figure out what, I’ll let you know.

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's ARod's cousin.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So it's a BOLE dog?

(If it got jacked up on sugar, would it be a hyperbole dog?)

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and hence the phrase "you Yankee dog" was born...

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 19, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

tastes like chicken ;)

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Mar 19, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep. you guys are hardcore

Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan

by Emelie on Mar 19, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mariners scored

1-0

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Mar 19, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

Bot 2 – Chris Shelton singles on a sharp ground ball to left fielder Ty Wright. Wladimir Balentien scores.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gaithright error in CF allowed Balentien to advance to 3rd

after hitting a double

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Mar 19, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that aside...

…Heilman still seems to be pitching fairly well. He ended up striking out the side that inning.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would really like to see

heilman get at least 4 innings today, even if it is against the mariners’ ’b" team

by brian custer on Mar 19, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CHRIS Shelton???

Dang, I figured it was LONNIE Shelton, being Seattle and all…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 19, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This one's for Micah when he comes up

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Mar 19, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Gameday stuck?

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Mar 19, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And, if so, where?

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday just flipped through a bunch of Cubs

Homers by Micah and Fox

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Mar 19, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And those were back-to-back jacks!

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

The EA photos have even more power than we thought.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The magic is retroactive.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone checked

to see if he looks like Smilin’ Bob from the Enzyte commericals when he’s at the plate sometimes?

by JodyDavis on Mar 19, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ErinAndrews_phone

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is EA doing a piece on 29 YEAR OLD ROOKIES?!

I’ll eventually give this up, I swear.

MLBMilestone.com - following the numbers to Cooperstown

by D98 on Mar 19, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Onedec in action.

Last Play: Ronny Cedeno grounds into double play, second baseman Aaron Miles to first baseman Jake Fox. Reegie Corona out at 2nd.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, really.

Maybe I’ll stop by and find out. They were marginally more friendly than Padres fans.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just searched their site for "Cedeno"....

overall they seem to think he’ll win the SS job and they seem glad about it…but they didn’t seem to expect much from him anyway.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I guess Betancourt is pretty horrible defensively.

So maybe Ronny can at least help them out there.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they will be more forgiving in Seattle

when he over slides second on a ball four steal.

"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru

by LAcarl519 on Mar 19, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my, that was a silly play....

can i have a latte frappacino?

by tim815 on Mar 19, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my, that was a silly play....

can i have a latte frappacino?

by tim815 on Mar 19, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another one?

I think you’ve had enough.

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, alright. You didn't have to ask twice. Can't you see I'm busy here?

Man, I hate working at Starbuck’s.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my lasting memory of Onedec...

how sad is that!

"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru

by LAcarl519 on Mar 19, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And in the game,

Nate Spears drives in Aaron Miles from 2nd to make it 7-1 Cubs.

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And Nate Spears

is now hitting .750 this spring. Will the anyone finally take him seriously as a prospect?

by Josh77 on Mar 19, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

beat me to it

glad it was veal that got parmesaned

and not spears getting broccolied

by tim815 on Mar 19, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will! I will!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh.

Top of the fourth: Micah Hoffpauir strikes out swinging.

On the bright side, Aaron Miles doubled and was singled home by Nate Spears.

Middle 4: 7-1 Cubs

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We need more EA photos!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gameday is blocked.

I am curious what Koskie did in his AB(s). Anyone??

God I love baseball. -Roy Hobbs

by muehlman on Mar 19, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow. Spring training IS weird.

What about his second AB?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 19, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A slam dunk to set up the PAT.

And he’s on the green in two.

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he played the field, and that's what was important today.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just like Steve Garvey

Wait, wrong thread.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Mar 19, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heilman must have reached his pitcher count,

as he was relieved by Randy Wells with 2 outs in the 4th inning.

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Mar 19, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And Wells gets the out!

Mike Morse grounds into a force out, fielded by shortstop Nate Spears. Bryan LaHair out at 2nd.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

seems like

a pretty decent outing for aaron

by brian custer on Mar 19, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top 5

Pitcher Change: Chris Seddon replaces Gaby Hernandez. And apparently this Seddon guy has filthy stuff because:

Jake Fox strikes out swinging.

Bobby Scales grounds out, shortstop Ronny Cedeno to first baseman Bryan LaHair. (CEDENO!)

Reed Johnson strikes out swinging.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Koskie update (sort of) from Gordo via Twitter:
Koskie leaves game in third inning. Says not feeling well. Unclear whether related to concussion issues he’s had.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a good sign.

Damn.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet it turns out to be the flu.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 19, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And with one out in the 5th,

Seattle sac flies in a run. 7-2 Cubs.

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Mar 19, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So is Hoff leading all teams ST stats with 17 ribbies? Seems like he should be...

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Mar 19, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Younger?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Mar 19, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

To both questions.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 19, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally meaningless of course....

But that translates to about 127 RBI’s during the season.

by cubsonWGN4ever on Mar 19, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Able to CATCH a baseball and then maybe throw in the right direction ?

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Mar 19, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...getting the hint from Erin Andrews?

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm. No VPL. Is EA going commando?

Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)

by Zeke on Mar 19, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

these are getting put in

 the flickr group page, right?

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 19, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only the ones we caption or alter in some other way.

I’ll add this one, though.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

many, many thanks.

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Mar 19, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs don't score in Top 7 but...

…Aaron Miles hits another double. Nearby, Mike Fontenot sips his pina colada, unimpressed.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 19, 2009 5:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

not so nearby

skip schumacher misplays a grounder in redbird camp

by tim815 on Mar 19, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know Hoffpauir is going to make the team

But I’ll toss the question out there: is there anything Hoffpauir does that is significantly better than what Jake Fox is doing?

I’m biased, but it looks like Fox can hit for power and play multiple positions better than Hoffpauir.

Is the Hoffpauir case really based on left-handed hitting and 80 at bats from last season?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Mar 19, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

EA sends you to your room without dinner

"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru

by LAcarl519 on Mar 19, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox won't hit above .250

in the majors. He can’t make enough contact.

by Josh77 on Mar 19, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But can Hoffpauir do that either?

He has a long swing, just like Fox does. And while I don’t think either one is a permanent solution at first when Lee goes, I could see Fox’s versatility helping out more on this team.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Trey2317 on Mar 19, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fox reminds me a LOT of Adam Dunn

…except he doesn’t take as many walks

by northernsails on Mar 19, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's kind of a big difference, isn't it?

Fox simply doesn’t get on base enough to play a corner position in the major leagues.

by Josh77 on Mar 19, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I think Hoffpauir can hit .270 or so in limited duty.

Their respective PECOTA forecasts:

Fox .233/288/.412
Hoffpauir .261/.327/.489

One’s a major leaguer—albeit not a starter at a corner position, which is all Hoffpauir can play. The other simply isn’t unless he’s the slickest fielding shortstop around, which Fox isn’t.

by Josh77 on Mar 19, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those numbers imply that Hoffpauir will draw some walks.

I have seen no evidence that he can or will do that.

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by Al on Mar 20, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's always drawn them in the minors

except last year, but of course, he hit .362 in the minors last season so he wasn’t taking a lot of pitches.

But in 2006 he drew 53 walks in 393 ABs and in 2007 he drew 24 walks in 310 ABs. Not exactly Kevin Youkilis, but a healthy number.

by Josh77 on Mar 20, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

24 walks in 310 AB is "healthy"?

That translates to 38 walks in a 500-AB season. That’s Soriano-like.

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by Al on Mar 20, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

when it gives you a .365 OBP, yeah, it’s OK.

But I’ll admit, I did the math wrong. I thought it was a little more. Mea Culpa.

But hey, I don’t think Hoffpauir is anything more than a defensively-limited bench player. So it’s not like we have a huge disagreement over his value. I just think he can hit enough off the bench to justify a spot for a while—at least if your other option is Corey Koskie

by Josh77 on Mar 20, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's better at being a 29 YEAR OLD ROOKIE!

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by D98 on Mar 19, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except Fox is 26.

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by Al on Mar 19, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The question is "what does Hoff do better"

And obviously, I’m joking around.

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by D98 on Mar 19, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But with Hoffpauir

We get a fox every game(thread).

Hey, is he related to that other Hoffpauir, Jarrett? I am guessing not.

by JodyDavis on Mar 19, 2009 5:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent point. I do enjoy those photos.

Don’t know about Jarrett Hoffpauir – they were born in different towns, but I don’t know if the Hoffpauir’s moved around.

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by Trey2317 on Mar 19, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's no relation

between Jarrett and Micah Hoffpauir. They just have the same, somewhat unusual, last name.

by Josh77 on Mar 19, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs win, 9-2

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by Trey2317 on Mar 19, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

a real nail biter. enjoyed it

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by LAcarl519 on Mar 19, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW, when is Lou going to send Cotts

out there to pitch a real inning instead of the 9th inning mop up when the AA non-roster guys are in?

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by LAcarl519 on Mar 19, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope Hoffpauir shows patience like Ward did

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by drodd on Mar 20, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There's the major issue.

As I noted above, I have seen no evidence that he can or will do that.

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by Al on Mar 20, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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