Saturday In The Park: Cubs vs. White Sox at Glendale, Saturday 3/21, 3:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Mar 21, 2009 11:00 AM CDT
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The Cubs make their second visit to Glendale's new Camelback Ranch this week, this time to take on the crosstown rival White Sox.
Newly anointed fifth starter Sean Marshall will face Mark Buehrle -- which means, given Buehrle's usual work pace, that the game should be a quick one. We are getting to the point in the spring where starters should be going six innings. Meanwhile, don't be surprised if Marshall gets a start against the Astros in the opening series or gets skipped entirely till the first homestand, because Lou and Larry want to start all righthanders against Milwaukee, and also because Rich Harden's first turn could be skipped as a result of his bout with the flu and Lou and Larry wanting to be careful with him.
Still worried about Cactus League attendance? The record attendance at HoHoKam Park, set Wednesday, lasted two days. Yesterday's crowd of 13,162 broke it; the 13-game average is now 10,253. Presuming sellouts in the six remaining dates, the Cubs will set an all-time spring attendance record of (approximately) 211,000 -- granted, with more dates than usual this year, that was probably a foregone conclusion -- and a healthy average of about 11,100.
Other notes: Mike Fontenot, TV sitcom star?
Mike Fontenot will be a special guest on an upcoming episode of "My Boys," the TBS sitcom about a female sportswriter who covers the Cubs.
Fontenot will play himself in the episode, parts of which will be taped Tuesday at HoHoKam Park. Without revealing the plot, Fontenot said one of the male characters on the show makes a play for his girlfriend, who apparently is trying to make Fontenot jealous.
Fontenot, a natural ham, was perfect for the part. He said he has seven lines overall and already has learned them.
"I was on the phone with my girlfriend, then I told my sister. … I was pretty excited about it," he said. "I've been standing in front of the mirror rehearsing."
Derrek Lee won't play today, still resting his sore quad (maybe that's what's been affecting his hitting), but will be back in the lineup on Sunday.
It's official: Pudge is an Astro. Meanwhile, Andruw Jones may opt out of his minor league deal and become a free agent. (No, I don't want him as a Cub.)
The WBC resumes tonight, with one of the two semifinals, Korea vs. Venezuela, 8 pm CDT (TV: ESPN). MLB.com Gameday for Korea/Venezuela. Japan plays the USA in the other semifinal tomorrow, which means that either Ted Lilly or Kosuke Fukudome will be on a team which will be eliminated tomorrow night. Roy Oswalt will pitch against Daisuke Matsuzaka in the USA/Japan semi.
Today's game is televised via CSN Chicago (and MLB.TV) with the Sox announcers. It'll also be on WGN radio with Pat & Ron. Here's today's MLB.com Mediacenter for other games.
MLB.com Gameday for Cubs/White Sox
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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RE: WBC
I think the final will be Korea-Japan. I’m rooting for the U.S., but I think the patient and methodical Japanese have a slight edge. Korea has floored me with their great fundamentals.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
Koskie Retires
According to CST_Cubs tweet. “says the game and career comeback not worth the risk to a normal life with kids, wife, loved ones.”
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
Well, I understand, of course.
I wish he could have played, but he’s doing the right thing under the circumstances. All the best to him and his family.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Boredom
is the first step on the road to relapse. :)
"I've got an idea...an idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about." ~Peter Griffin
just curioue
what is the next excuse for Dlees hitting? So far I have seen
1. Age
2. Wrist
3. Neck
4 (now) sore quad
Derrek Lee won’t play today, still resting his sore quad (maybe that’s what’s been affecting his hitting), but will be back in the lineup on Sunday.
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
curioue = curious
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Sound a lot like the ever changing excuses for a certain Japanese player
Maybe sometimes guys just aren’t good/ or good anymore. DLee has been regressing the last two years. Obviously his 2005 season was the fluke, as players get older they get worse at baseball.
I think DLee will be moved down in the order mid-season, his glove is still nice to have and his bat will be much more attractive if he hits in the 6 or 7 spot.
www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com
Many I cannot believe how far Andruw Jones' has fallen.
That guy used to be M-O-N-E-Y. Strangely enough, BR has his comparable batters through age 31 to be none other than Sammy Sosa.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
It is strange
how fast he fell off the map
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Well, of course....
… Sosa’s best years were after age 29, so that makes sense.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
TWHS?
thats what Hoff said
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
LOL
Of course, Sosa had 206 HR by the time he was 29.
Hoffpauir has two.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
true
Sosa also was learning on the job with some horrible teams as well.
No way Hoff is Sosa, but it had to be said
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
It's not even worth making any such comparison.
Two different players, two very different situations.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I know and agree
but with your saying “Hoff cant do it now cuz he is 29” contradict “Sosa’s best seasons were after he was 29”
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
They do?
How? Sosa was an established major league star at age 29 with over 200 career HR.
How on Earth does that compare to Hoffpauir’s present situation?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
the age factor
and the comments Iahve seen from many about how you cannot get better at 29
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Iahve - I have
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Well, and I'm hesistant to say this because of the debate it may bring...
Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens sure got better after 29.
Conversation at a Cubs Game
Me "I think it's cool that a lot of Cubs have names that are abbreviations. A-Ram, D-Ro, D-Lee.... how about R-Ther (R-Tear).
Cousin "....that just sounds graphic."
for "proven" reasons
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
That's fine, all I'm saying is using Sammy Sosa for your argument
that players can get better after 29 is telling me that you want hoffpauir to gain a ton of muscle in an insanely short amount of time.
There’s definitely a few ways to do that, none of them legal.
Conversation at a Cubs Game
Me "I think it's cool that a lot of Cubs have names that are abbreviations. A-Ram, D-Ro, D-Lee.... how about R-Ther (R-Tear).
Cousin "....that just sounds graphic."
Fontenot can act actually
When we shot the backstage stuff with Dempster and Howry at WWE last year, Fontenot was there too. We used the version without him because it was more PG. He didn’t say anything innapropriate but our wrestler did but he was much better on camera than Howry or Dempster.
Tomorrow at 7 pm CDT.
Also on ESPN.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Well, there's one good reason to watch this game.
It’s in HD.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
I have a reason not to watch
No link yet for MLB.TV coverage, just the WGN Radio audio (which might be easier to handle anyway).
Never Mind
Forced the player window to give me a link. Not widescreen though.
I don't think so.
It’s formatted to fill the 16:9 screen, but the players look slightly distorted, and I can tell you just by looking at the picture that is not 1080i. Looks like they applied some stretching to the 4:3 image, so rather than being displayed properly with sidebars, it gives the illusion of HD. It’s not a very good illusion.
"I've got an idea...an idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about." ~Peter Griffin
how does Fontentot look? That's the ultimate test... ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Even shorter than usual.
And some of Theriot’s scrappiness is not displaying properly, either. :-)
"I've got an idea...an idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about." ~Peter Griffin
wow, lucky us
we got a “he gone”, “chopper, two hopper”, and “can o’ corn” all in the same inning from Uncle Hawkeroo.
"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin
+ ears bleeding
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Just to get the feeling of Camelback ranch
I will heat a towel, light a mango-scented candle, go sit on the deck with a beer in hand and listen to Pat and Ron.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Steve Stone
was just talking about the Cubs trade of Mark DeRosa and said “the cubs traded DeRosa much to OUR dismay.” Anybody catch that? Who does he mean by “our”?
God I love baseball. -Roy Hobbs
AL Central
to be more exact I would bet
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
the AL Central except for Cleveland
to be even more exact… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
and Clevelands previous starting 3B
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
you are right.
I was thinking he slipped and was thinking of himself as a Cub but you are right.
God I love baseball. -Roy Hobbs
For what it's worth, just got back from walking around Wrigley...
…and the new beer garden will NOT be encompassing the Harry Caray statue as some have previously speculated. All the brickwork has been laid and you can see where the brick pattern changes and establishes a ‘boundary’ if you will.
On the east side (closest to the statue and Gate D), the border will pretty much be the same as the railing was for the old patio area. Along Addison, the border is about 16 ft in from the curb. And on the west side, the border is just past the day of game ticket windows. In other words, pretty much the same as what is currently fenced off (imagine that…).
Many of the commemorative bricks around the two trees were uprooted and I suspect will be relocated to some other area around Wrigley. Those uprooted bricks are another clue as to the beer garden’s footprint, because I can’t imagine they would be within an area that the public can’t get to (for free).
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I went by there just now too.
Sorry I missed you — I was there right at 3:30!
You’re right about the statue. I also took a photo of the scoreboard, which is being painted. Will post it in the game recap.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Also on MLB Network
The ’Guide" on my Cox Cable Box in Oklahoma City says the game will be on at 4pm (Tape Delayed). Anybody else see this?
"We do not envy Yankees fans. Who roots for Microsoft to make another billion? We are not like fans of the Diamondbacks or the Marlins, those World Series arrivistes of the Sunbelt. Rooting for such a team is drinking instant coffee....We are serfs in the Kingdom of Cub." -Cubs by Joe Hoppel and Joe Distelheim
sure nuff
you are correct, I see the same here in Austin
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
HD?
You get MLBN in HD? Is the game going to be broadcast that way I wonder
"We do not envy Yankees fans. Who roots for Microsoft to make another billion? We are not like fans of the Diamondbacks or the Marlins, those World Series arrivistes of the Sunbelt. Rooting for such a team is drinking instant coffee....We are serfs in the Kingdom of Cub." -Cubs by Joe Hoppel and Joe Distelheim
no no no
just digital
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
for me digital
I have an older HD TV and have not upgraded my DTV to HD, since I own my equip and have not felt like being out of pocket for the HD equip
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
WOW
what a hook by Marshall there
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Yeah, quite impressive....He's come along...
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
if a game is on WGN or Comcast
will it be blacked out on MLB Network, like it is on ESPN?
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
that answers my question
I am blacked out on MLB Network here on DTV, so it is Hark or bust for me
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
I don't recall ever seeing him hit a shot down the third base line....
weird.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Yahtzee!
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Monopoly!
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
You're a real *mastermind*
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
And I gotta get a "Life"
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Well said
I’m just waiting for the first Derosa comment.
Conversation at a Cubs Game
Me "I think it's cool that a lot of Cubs have names that are abbreviations. A-Ram, D-Ro, D-Lee.... how about R-Ther (R-Tear).
Cousin "....that just sounds graphic."
oh we had those earlier in the week, when DeRo hit a homer for Team USA, but I'm sure there'll be more.
I plan on having a few myself, but seeing as how I’m a Tribe fan, they’ll be happy ones!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I've turned into a Tribe fan when I watch AL baseball because of DeRo, Wood, and...
the fact that my next-door neighbor is from Cleveland, and my great grandparents were from Elyria!
Not that AL baseball is real baseball, but it’s a close approximation….
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Off to work all, go Cubs, go Korea
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? - Jim Bouton
Like chicken.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)
Chickenhawk
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)
haha
I hate listening to the Sox announcers, but am really starting to enjoy hearing the sadness in their voices
Chuck Norris is a Cubs fan...
Make it 9-1
6 runs this inning, all with 2 outs.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
How are they scoring ?
I am on a hotel computer in Syracuse. MLB scoreboard is TOO slow
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
Is it snowing there?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Hits my son. Hits.
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)
Gotta love Harrelson...
The runner is barely thrown out at home to end the inning, after the Cubs open up an eight run lead, and Hawk says “Grab some bench!”
“Why thanks HH, I think I will. Getting tired from all this running the bases and scoring.”
"I've got an idea...an idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about." ~Peter Griffin
can I sit next to Buehrle
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
is ronnie woo-woo there?
I swear I heard a faint ronnie woo-woo chant in the background watching the game.
"Oh baby!" - Len Casper
by #1 iowan cubs fan on Mar 21, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions
I was thinking the same, sadly
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Hey!
Remember, that person is referred to here as “He Who Shall Not Be Named”, or HWSNBN for short.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
if you don't say his name
his power just grows greater al.
There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner
by laidbackliam on Mar 21, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
what happens if you say it three times in a mirror?
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Once is enough to make the mirror break.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Yep
I hear him too…but then it seems now I always here him….in my nightmares…
Chuck Norris is a Cubs fan...
Inky. Cil. Dant and Nultimate
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE! (Now #12,966 on the Cubs season ticket waiting list- UP from 13,031...WHOO HOO!)
Looks like we're showing Ozzie what's what
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
Micah pinch-hitting - not enough time to post an EA pic. Thinking one instead...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
the black-n-white striped sweater one, to be exact...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
your picture + my thoughts = micah walkpauir!!!!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
This is the luckiest kid in the WORLD
Too bad he doesn’t know what to do in this particular situation.
“Um… so do you like dragons??”
rofl! love the body language
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
It's from the spelling bee this year
and apparently very few of the kids knew who she was… and she had to take her 3" heels off because she was towering over the kids… she normally wears them for talking to athletes. Apparently many of the kids would see her and pretty much run away, which she liked bc it’s the opposite of what most athletes do to her… kinda funny story.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/05/erin_andrews_at_the_bee.html
lol! You can just see the bubbles over their heads
too much too soon! I’m not ready I’m not ready…. MOMMY!!!
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
Ha Ha!
“And now let’s go to Erin Andrews, who’s live in the hotel ballroom with an awkward teenager wearing an orange bracelet. Erin…”
"I've got an idea...an idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about." ~Peter Griffin
kid asks
“do you like video games, or dungeon and dragons”
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Wow.
EA is now helping Jake Fox. Will nothing stop her?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
woo hoo! let's make it a mercy game!
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
should be interesting to see if a certain user who shall not be named (due to his prowess with the search function)
will show up later and/or in the recap.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
anybody want to come over and help me pack?
I’m on box 60 and this is getting tired.
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
I heard a rumor you are going to Alaska
where in Alaska? I’ve spent time there a bit….
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
fairbanks ... brrr
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
Nice town. Nice river in the summer. I spent time doing a physics experiment around there...
Delta Junction (about 2 hours away)….
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
great area for scientists to be sure
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
April Fool's Day
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
and thanks for the thought ;-D
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
Did you actually PICK that day? Or is it a personal joke? :-)
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
I actually picked it... go figure. Me and two cats and a umpty hour fight with a plane change
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
IMHO, you'll grow to love Alaska. Really nice and weird people
forced to bundle close together because of the cold "-)
I love the place. Don’t forget NOT to use the word “snow mobiles” or they’ll think you are a foreigner. The word is “snow machine”….
Also, learn to love espresso like I do :-)
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
you've nailed it.
The odds are good but the goods are odd … especially in Fairbanks which has retained more the true Alaskan character than Anchorage… frontier all the way, baby.
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
By the way... click & clack the tappit brothers Tom & Ray
invoked “pounding sand” on their show today. Kid you not. Is that a common phrase??
Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan
Let's hope not.
Friendly note: I could do without the profanity. Thanks.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Stoney likes Fox.
I wonder if Dr. Crawdad will show up now that the score is so lopsided.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
OHMG!
The Sox lost 85-0 in another meaningless ST game! I won’t be able to sleep. Oh, the humanity!
My god the Cubbies are a machine!
This is the year (again)!
The Cubbies have dominated the Sox in every ST game this year!
Sox fans take these ST games so seriously, it’s like it’s their World Series.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
"I'm Bored With Spring Training."
Gee, Kenny, Sorry. You get paid handsomely to watch baseball. Thousands watching don’t have jobs.
What an a-hole.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Mar 21, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions
definitely not room for both
I don’t know if there’s anything saying it has to be hoffpauir over fox, though. Especially since fox can theoretically play a little 3b. as of now miles is the backup there.
"Enough foreplay- let's get crackin'"- Fred Garvin
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