Little Nuances: Cubs 20, Athletics 5

Ryan Dempster delivers a pitch at Phoenix Muni, Monday, March 23, 2009; photo by Al
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PHOENIX, Arizona -- "Whap!"
That was the sound I heard, sitting with my friend Dave behind the Cubs dugout, as Neal Cotts came into the dugout after being removed following giving up four hits and a walk and being charged with three runs in a ninth-inning throwaway appearance in the Cubs' 20-5 blowout of the A's, which, coincidentally, ended at 4:40 pm -- twenty to five. (Traffic was messed up both getting in to this game, due to a serious car accident in Scottsdale, and out, because of rush hour, and I had to make a stop, which is why this recap is delayed.)
These are the things you don't see on TV or get out of Gameday or even a pitch-by-pitch description of the game. The little things, perhaps unnoticed by many, that define who major league baseball players are. Even in a meaningless spring game the Cubs were leading by 18 runs going into the inning, Cotts was mad at himself for getting pounded. Who knows whether he just didn't have his command or was working on something that just didn't work -- whatever the case, you could tell that Cotts cared about failing. And that's as it should be. I know that Cotts is one of the hardest workers on the team and often runs around the park after even spring games. Dave said that Cotts has thrown very well this spring, so hopefully today was an aberration.
It was about the only thing that didn't work for the Cubs today; they pounded out 24 hits, including four from Paul Bako, who didn't even start the game. Bako and Derrek Lee homered; Lee hit the ball with authority in his first four at-bats and looked much better at the plate than he has at any time this spring. That's a very good sign. Ryan Theriot also had three hits and hit the ball solidly. And Micah Hoffpauir had two doubles and made an outstanding diving catch in right field. Yes, really. (Of course, he'd probably dive for the same ball 99 more times and not catch it.) For today, I was impressed with what I saw from Micah. He does seem to have a more level swing than he had last year, and if he can improve his plate discipline... well then, maybe I'll wind up being wrong about him.
Ryan Dempster looked solid, as I twittered during the game, but almost as soon as I had done that, he started losing his command. Removed before finishing the fifth inning, he struck out six, but I don't think either he or Lou was happy with his final inning. Kevin Gregg and Aaron Heilman also threw today; Gregg didn't have his best stuff in relief of Dempster, but got out of his inning, and Heilman gave up a pair of singles and a run-scoring sac fly in his inning of work.
It was just nice to get to see real baseball today, despite the fact that the game ran an unsightly three hours and thirty-six minutes, perhaps expected in a game that featured 35 hits, nine walks, three hit batters and a Jake Fox error that allowed Matt Holliday to reach base in the second inning, before Dempster induced Jack Hannahan to hit into a nicely-turned inning-ending double play. Phoenix Muni is a throwback field with no grass berm, so I sat behind first base (where the photo above was taken) until my friend Brian called and said I could come sit over by Dave behind the dugout. More throwback: no scanners for the tickets, they actually ripped the ticket, which I haven't had happen in about four years, and so I have an actual ticket "stub" from today's game.
Rumors heard: Luis Vizcaino, who threw a decent inning today, is still on the block and perhaps today's outing will induce a scout from some team or another to file a positive report and acquire him. David Patton, who didn't have command today but pitched a scoreless inning anyway, has a real chance to break camp with the team, and if he doesn't, he will get claimed on waivers by either the Nationals or Padres and make someone's major league roster.
Tomorrow, Chad Gaudin, another pitcher who has to produce to make the roster, will get the start against Colorado's Franklin Morales. Other Rockies pitchers at Mesa tomorrow will include right-handers Manuel Corpas and Ryan Speier and lefties Alan Embree, Greg Smith and our old buddy Glendon Rusch.
The WBC championship game is about to begin as I write this, about 6:30 pm MST (8:30 pm CDT, ESPN) -- so here is MLB.com Gameday for Japan/Korea, and we have already learned that Kosuke Fukudome will not start for Japan tonight.
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Fukudome
hasnt looked very good in the WBC and is being pulled from the starting roster again. I really hope he can come around for regular season :(
ROSE DRIVES TO THE HOOP...
its like a comb through Vinny's hair.
It's not looking like it right now
I’d be interested to see what changes he’s made, or how he’s worked in the offseason to get better.
I really don’t want him to become the most expensive Cubs mistake ever (at least as far as I can remember. And I have a bad memory)
by chitownhawkeye on Mar 23, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah turns out he isn't good at baseball right now
Maybe he pulls out of his funk, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
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meh, I could care less about the WBC now
Its rediculous when the best players in your country don’t play, but I know this argument as been beaten to death enough already..
#34: You'll be missed!
You mean Japan is putting their best line-up on the field to win the game?
SHOCKING!!!!!!
Hey, it's a new century!
Derek Lee was 2-5
I really want him to turn it around. I am a little worried but not too much. As long as he hits his 20 homers and 300+ average I’ll be happy with him this year. And on Cotts, he needs to be really good this year, because he’ll probably be the only lefty in the pen. That’s personally why I want Gaudin in the rotation.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 23, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions
Of the two outs Lee put in play...
… both were hit with authority. He had four good AB today.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
First time all Spring
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Patton
David Patton, who didn’t have command today but pitched a scoreless inning anyway, has a real chance to break camp with the team, and if he doesn’t, he will get claimed on waivers by either the Nationals or Padres and make someone’s major league roster.
I am 95% sure that this is not what happens. Patton was selected in the Rule V Draft and therefore will be offered back to the Rockies. Waivers would only play if Patton is out of options, which he isn’t because he was not on the Rockies 40-man roster, which exposed him to the draft.
I think we discussed this last year.
As I recall, a rule 5 player has to first go through waivers and then is returned to their original team. If the player is claimed by another team on waivers, he is still subject to the rule 5 restrictions (meaning he has to stay on the 25 man roster for the entire year for the team to keep him).
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Mar 23, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Correct.
This is what happened to Tim Lahey last year. He was waived and claimed by the Phillies, who put him on their 25-man roster to start the season. He did not stick with the Phillies and wound up with his original team, the Twins, in their minor league system.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
FWIW, I heard Bruce Levine on ESPN radio in the car yesterday...
…and he confirmed Al’s suggestion that Patton may really have a chance to head north with the team. Levine said scouts were raving about Patton’s curve ball, and that Rothschild (or perhaps Lou) described Patton has having brass cajones.
IIRC, Levine also mentioned that scouts from several teams were taking serious looks at Chad Gaudin.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Both of those points are good news.
Patton didn’t have his command yesterday; I’d like to see him throw again, though.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Random thoughts:
I’m glad to see Lee hit the cover off the ball. He’s our starting 1B, a starter, a leader, and one of the most important players on the team. I’m glad to see him have a great game after a few days off and being sore.
I simply cannot stand not getting real tickets. I went to most all of the KU basketball games last year—when they won the championship—and would have loved to have something framed. Instead, I have my stupid student ID, and that’s it. Swiping IDs is not the same as keeping ticket stubs so I can prove to my grandchildren I was there. Argh.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
by dtpollitt on Mar 23, 2009 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
if you take the print out to the box office
they can print you a regular ticket. i have had this done before.
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Good idea. Haven't thought of that.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
i did it with tix
for Spurs/Bulls and Stors/Cubs about an hour or so before the game. Neven been told no.
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Frame your Student ID
in a case with a photo of the team after they won the title (on the court or something, cutting down the nets, etc…) and also with some sort of print out of the NCAA Bracket….That could be pretty sweet…
Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow
by PurpleLineToWrigley on Mar 24, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Selig on with Morgan & Miller & Phillips during ESPN WBC broadcast.
My head might explode.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Remember guys
mute button can be your friend. :)
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 23, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Just out of curiosity, Al...
How did Nomar look? Is he back in shape or just waiting to get hurt? I saw in the box score he’s hitting .467 or something ridiculous number… any thoughts on him this year?
Forgot to mention Nomar.
He looks like he’s running with concrete blocks on his ankles. But he can still hit a little, and his fielding looked fine. Nomar was 7-for-15 (.467) before today, pretty small sample size. Now he’s 8-for-18 (.444).
Incidentally, I forgot to mention that Dana Eveland, who started today for Oakland and got pounded for five runs in four innings, is their #1 starter. They are in big trouble.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Can't Gallagher move up?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Gallagher's not a #1.
He’s their #2. Like I said, they’re in trouble.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
They won 75 games last year...same as the Royals.
I think their troubles started long before Eveland. Signing Giambi, for instance.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
What happened to dome?
After watching like 5+ of these WBC games every single Japanese hitter looks better then Dome…did we see something that wasnt there?
ROSE DRIVES TO THE HOOP...
its like a comb through Vinny's hair.
We weren't the only ones.
There were several other teams after him, including the Padres and White Sox.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Apparently we have a game on our hands.
With the USA out, I wish I really cared a bit more about this WBC. Not really anymore.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
It's been a great game
Both teams play fantastic defense, and have great pitchers that keep the ball down. MLB teams could learn a lot from these two teams, who will do anything to win, with the name on the front of the jersey meaning more than the one on the back.
Japan blew a bunch of chances to score, but are still hanging on, with Darvish coming in in the 9th – this guy gives me a boner.
Too bad he’s said he would rather retire than play in MLB. Although, he would just end up with the Red Sox anyway, so it’s probably a good thing!
I don’t care if the best players were there for the US, these two countries are the class of this tournament.
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Mar 23, 2009 11:53 PM CDT reply actions
I think Darvish
will eventually come over to MLB. He’s very concerned with his image and I am guessing that was the right thing for him to say at that point in his career. I think I remember reading a story about him apologizing on TV for being caught smoking a cigarette….
I was thinking the same
he has looked good
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Instead of the whole WBC next time
How about Japan and Korea just play a 7 game series on US soil. I honestly don’t think another country beside Cuba can compete with them.
www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com
2 on 1 out bottom 9 Japan 3 Korea 2
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
And...for some fun:
Visit the North Korea website. Looks like it was made by my 6th grade class with GeoCities.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
4. Can I work in North Korea as a teacher/interpreter/(other)?
No.
1. Can I get a signed photograph from Leader Kim Jong IL?
The KFA Shop is offering this article. Please visit the following webpage:
http://www.korea-dpr.com/catalog2
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The "brief" history
of Kim Jong Il is 160 pages long in Adobe.
by jerry morales rules on Mar 24, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
3-3 now
Whole new ballgame.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Great game!
I haven’t followed the WBC very closely, but this game has been terrific. 1000x better than any meaningless spring training game.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
Pitch selection always up for debate
but look how Darvish finished off the last guy…getting ahead with high 90’s gas on the outer edge, then going to the slider to end it. Seemed to fall in love with his slider the previous few batters, including the walk, and it cost him.
Oh well…off to bed. Enjoy the rest of the game everyone!
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Mar 24, 2009 12:08 AM CDT reply actions
Micah for Ichiro? Think the M's will do it?
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Last spring, many Cubs fans ...
… would not have traded FukU for Ichiro.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
Ichiro is one of the best players in the game. He's about as untouchable as they come.
He’s 34 but has shown absolutely no sign of slowing down, with 206 hits and 157 games played being his lowest totals, and neither were last year or even the last 3 years. Any team would want him.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I think I would trade any Cub outside of Geo for Ichiro.
I think it’s more than reasonable to think Ichiro will be playing for another 6-8 years.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Also, I cannot believe Ichiro came in EIGHTH in MVP voting in 2004
A record 262 hits and a .372 average. Yet he came in eighth. I attribute this to the 4 players ahead of him in the AL East and East Coast Bias.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Great points
Mix in perhaps a bit of anti-Asian feelings and you’ve got it.
(I’ll never when a coworker chided me about driving a Toyota, “You driving that "Jap” car. We fought them in WWII." I then reminded the taunter that he drove a Volkswagen.)
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
Ugh
I hate people who make taunts like that. What a child. Way to stand up to them, Doc. :-)
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 24, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
He has an outside shot at getting 3000 hits in MLB despite not starting till age 27. He needs 1195 hits; if he averages 200 hits a year, he can do it in six years.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
Ichiro is an all-around great baseball player
Not one a one dimensional slugger who wears a glove for warmth on a cold day. Ichiro is worth the price of a ticket to watch play this great game.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
Great players, like Ichiro, live and breath for times like that.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
And our $48 million dollar man contributes no statistics to the championship game.
Hmm. Crap.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
As Al mentioned...
… several teams wanted FukU. The Cubs stepped up and signed him. That is the gamble with free agents, for any team, and each team has had their flops.
And just because he didn’t play tonight does not mean he won’t contribute this season for the Cubs. (Not sure that makes sense. But FukU may still do well for the Cubs.)
Good night!
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
didnt he turn down larger contracts
to be a Cub
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
I find your
nickname for Fukudome to be offensive. He wants to be called Dome so please use that when referring to him in the future.
by sue369 on Mar 24, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 from me
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I find you...
… nickname for the White Sox ("Sux") to be offensive. The players, management, etc. want to be called the White Sox or simply Sox so please use that when referring to them in the future.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
Potty mouth "sue369"...
… uses THE f-bomb here repeatedly but takes offense at FukU.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
Don't think asking
to refer to a man with a name he prefers to be hypocritical compared to profanity. Two different things.
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 24, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
What's offensive?
- An abbreviation of a players name?
- Changing the name of a historic franchise to an offensive word?
- Frequent usage of the f-bomb & other curse words on this public discussion group?
“sue369” is offended by FukU? Yeah, right. I find that hard to believe from someone who f-bombs so frequently and calls individuals filthy curse words. And if she really is offended by FukU, she needs to look at the rafter in her own eye.
“sue369,” you want me to drop using FukU?
- Then how about you stop dropping f-bombs & your other arsenal of curse words here.
- Then how about you stop using the term “Sux?”
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
I don't go on
Sux sites and use Sux there. I do it here so if you don’t like reading it then feel free to leave. I’ve not cursed at you so I don’t get your concern about me using curse words. Since you seem to feel you have to post on a Cubs blog you could show respect to Fukudome by calling him by the name he prefers, Dome.
Fuku.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
Both of you, knock it off.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
"your"
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
Not a fan of the WBC
but getting a chance to watch guys like Ichiro (whom I never get to watch) is exciting.
Now if I could just fall back asleep the world would be wonderful.
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 24, 2009 12:41 AM CDT reply actions
heilman's performance yesterday
was troubling to me. has he cashed it in for ST and is just going through the motions? or are we seeing signs of his past unhapinness/unsuitability in the set-up role?
I doubt it.
More than likely, he wasn’t hitting his spots and gave up a couple hits. It happens from time to time.
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