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Gone With The Wind: Cubs 3, Giants 5

SCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- Now here's a first -- a Cactus League game ended early because of high winds.

The Cubs lost to the Giants 5-3, breaking a six-game spring winning streak, in a game where the game-time wind was clocked at 27 MPH (sustained) and it must have been gusting up to 45+ MPH. When I got into my car after it was all over the temperature gauge there read 63 degrees, but it felt a lot colder than that. The crowd, a sellout of 11,999 (with many Cub fans very audible), had thinned out to maybe 2,000 by the fourth or fifth inning -- the wind was picking up tremendous amounts of dust, visibly blowing the players' uniforms around and making good baseball play nearly impossible.

So it's really not easy to judge anyone's performance tonight. Barry Zito struck out the side in the first inning and for a while, seemed to have that old 12-to-6 curveball that he made famous in Oakland working. But by the third inning, he had allowed a homer to Milton Bradley (a blast into the right-field party deck that would have been a monster shot, wind or no wind, any day), and later, four hits generated two more runs and gave the Cubs a 3-2 lead in the fifth. Zito pitched well -- some of those hits in the fifth probably wouldn't have been so on most other days.

Meanwhile, Sean Marshall, who came into tonight's start with only one walk in 19.1 innings this spring, could not find the strike zone. He issued two walks in the first inning, got out of it, then walked one more in each of the next three innings, helping lead to a pair of Giants runs. His overall line doesn't look too bad (two runs in four innings), but the five walks showed a lack of command. Whether that was due to the terrible weather conditions or something else remains to be seen. Marshall's next outing will be against the Angels in Mesa next Tuesday, a day on which we presume it will be less windy.

Bradley had a nice day, with a single and walk in addition to the homer, and making a good catch in right field. Ordinarily, I wouldn't say that catch would be anything other than routine, but nothing was routine on a day when dust and trash were blowing all over the place. Fred Lewis, the Giants' left fielder, made a nice running grab of a Geovany Soto fly ball in the sixth that appeared to be going over his head.

Carlos Marmol gave up the runs that put the Giants ahead to stay in the fifth inning, hitting Lewis, who was the first batter he faced (this sort of thing is getting a little alarming with Marmol!) and then allowing two solid hits, leading to the two runs. Aaron Heilman wasn't much better, and I confess I didn't see it -- the wind and cold was getting so bad by the middle of the sixth that I left, and arriving back home I was a little surprised to see that they had acknowledged the bad weather by calling the game in the middle of the seventh. That meant that Kevin Hart and Angel Guzman, who were to throw tonight, had their outings postponed until at least tomorrow.

When, we trust, the wind will have died down and the sun will return. Nice to see Jessica tonight, along with her friend who lives here who posts at this site as azjazzman. Until then.

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Never thought I'd hear a guy from Chicago...

…say it’s cold in the desert.

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on Mar 27, 2009 4:30 AM CDT reply actions  

on a horse with no name

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Mar 27, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

Man, it was wind. Even the people from San Francisco left early.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

...for there ain' no one there to give you no pain...

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

La la la la la la, laa laa laa

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Mar 27, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

After nine days in the desert sun, Al's skin began to turn red.........

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 27, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry - two days, two days

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 27, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

...the dog was hot and the Big Gulp was cold...

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

After three days in the desert fun, Al was looking for a nice soft bed.....

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 27, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

after three weeks watching desert runs,

hendry tried to trade angel guzman

i luvs me some musical parody

by tim815 on Mar 27, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

...it felt good to get out of the rain...

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Mar 27, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

In the desert you can remember your name .....

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 27, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

But it wasn't raining!

:-)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

but it did feel good to get out of the wind, I'll bet

even if America didn’t write it…

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Mar 27, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 27, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

blowing winds and the dust

sounds like a few of my kids’ softball games early every spring. Although a balmy 63F would be nice.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Mar 27, 2009 6:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Closer's job

has to go to Gregg. Marmol’s been inconsistant, to say the least, and Gregg still hasn’t given up a run this spring. Dead issue. And if this is the case, I guess I can now start worrying about the 8th inning with Marmol. Maybe this whole slider not working in Arizona has a lot to do with it, I don’t know.

I have nothing funny or creative to write.

by Canadian Cubs Fan on Mar 27, 2009 6:48 AM CDT reply actions  

100% agreed.

I think Marmol will be fine; last night’s conditions were terrible for all the pitchers.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Late night TV

For those that were up that late, the game was carried last night by MLB TV. Brutal conditions for certain. I can’t recall ever seeing the players uniforms whipping in the wind like they did last night.

Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?

by krummy12 on Mar 27, 2009 8:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Network

I meant MLB Network.

Who needs a stinkin' tag line? What are they for anyway?

by krummy12 on Mar 27, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Giants announcers...

were describing the conditions as Candlestick Park-like. Given that both of them played there, I think they’d know.

Too bad they called it, I was hoping for extra innings so you’d get a “Croix de Scottsdale” or something…

by bison on Mar 27, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

It was worse than Candlestick.

I went to Candlestick a few times. Never left a game early there.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

gosh I hope Bradley stays healthy

www.wrigleyexpansion.com

by drodd on Mar 27, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions  

+10

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I liked the one comment

in the 6th (?) about how there must be a bar nearby showing the game since 70% of the fans have left due to weather conditions

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 27, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice

I’m sure the many bars right there in the Scottsdale area were eager to please the early crowds.

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Mar 27, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those announcers were informed and fair

I was really surprised by the Giants call team.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Mar 27, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody know

who those announcers were last night?? Was watching while falling asleep and the color guy’s voice sounded so familiar. Couldn’t keep the eyes open long enough to hear them identify themselves.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Mar 27, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

If it was the Giants announcers...

… that would be Mike Krukow and Duane Kuiper.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the

little that I heard of them last night, they seemed to do a nice job.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Mar 27, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

They are very good. They compliment each other and let the other

guy talk. They made a few good points about the Cubs and their ability to score runs. You can clearly see that the Cub offense show be in full tilt this year, I just hope the pitching holds up.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 27, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Krukow & Kuiper are indeed very good.

And Krukow, having been an ex-Cub, understands a little about what makes the Cubs what they are.

Interesting bit of trivia; Kuiper, who had 3379 major league at bats with the Indians and Giants, hit one major league home run.

It was off Steve Stone on August 29, 1977. And to this day I don’t think Kuiper lets Stone forget that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Mar 27, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

That little tidbit just made my day.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 27, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Joyous fact.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Mar 27, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok

thanks.

"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark

by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Mar 27, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kruk and Kuip...

Duane Kuiper and Mike Krukow.

by bison on Mar 27, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I caught the first five and a half innings of last night's game on MLB Network...

…and, Al, your assessment is spot-on. The conditions were ridiculous. Sean Marshall’s uniform was flapping like a flag at the top of the Sears Willis Tower. And I thought Randy Winn was going to throw out his back catching a few of those pop flies to right.

Zito did look strong in the first inning, but he seemed to struggle as the game went on. He really just doesn’t appear to have much confidence anymore. As the game proceeded, I thought the Cubs did a good job of waiting him out and forcing him to throw a lot of pitches. Kudos to GHH for lining that RBI single after striking out in his first two ABs.

Sean Marshall definitely struggled with his control. But the Giants announcers noted that he really wasn’t missing by much. And, quite franky, I thought Sean should’ve gotten at least one or two of those check swing calls. In any case, as Al said, I’m not sure how accurately you can judge any pitcher’s performance under those weather conditions.

Most of all, however, I want to give a BIG SHOUT OUT to The Game. Maybe I’m getting carried away here, but I thought he put on quite a clinic last night. He showed power, drilling that solo bomb to right where the wind could do it the most good, as well as the ability to go with the pitch (running out an infield single) and to draw the walk. He looked solid in right field, too.

PLUS, we saw a little bit of that Milton Bradley fire when he got thrown out at second to end the top of the fifth (IIRC). I’m not sure whether they showed a replay – I turned off the TV and went to bed at that point. But it was a pretty damn close play and Milton was clearly very pissed off. As long as he doesn’t get kicked out of regular season games for such outbursts, that’s the kind of competitive fire I like to see.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Milton Bradley can flat out rake

We haven’t had a pure hitter like Bradley since perhaps the heyday of Mark Grace. The ball screams off of Bradley’s bat. I only wish Lou would reconsider and put him in the #3 hole with Aramis Ramirez hitting behind him. In fact, this is the lineup I’d really like to see.

1. Soriano – LF
2. Theriot – SS
3. Bradley – RF
4. Ramirez – 3rd
5. Lee – 1st (Lou will never demoted him lower than this)
6. Fontenot – 2nd
7. Soto – Cat
8. Kosuke / Johnson / Gathright – CF

You could persuade me to switch the # 2 and # 8 spots when Johnson is in the lineup.

by BLou on Mar 27, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heaven help us all.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 27, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

The rest of us will form a rebel alliance to stop you.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

And all is right with the world. Welcome home BLou!

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 27, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's quite a campaign slogan.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Mar 27, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I can see the logic in most of that lineup.

My kneejerk reaction is to decry having Theriot in the two-hole but, seeing him hit last night, I must admit that his ability to shoot the ball to the right side does appear to give him an uncanny ability to advance the runner.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Soriano can run effectively

Theriot’s a solid No. 2 hitter given his propensity to hit the ball to the right side – I like the idea of hitting and running with those two at the top of the order.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Mar 27, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

When Sriano is on, they are very few easy outs in that lineup. When Big Z pitches, the oposing pitcher really never gets a break. This offense should score a ton of runs.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 27, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

How many breaking balls away

is Fukodome gonna see batting ahead of the pitcher?? Only problem I have with this lineup.

God I love baseball. -Roy Hobbs

by muehlman on Mar 27, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fukudome

God I love baseball. -Roy Hobbs

by muehlman on Mar 27, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I thought this everytime I saw him get a hit while I was at ST. Geez, he even reached for one that I thought was way out of the zone, and poked it right down the middle. Certainly is a pure hitter.

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Mar 27, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do we got? 6, 7 more weeks of spring training until I care what's going on?

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Remember, spring training is a marathon, not a sprint.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not funny

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Mar 27, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I laughed...in a sick, painful way.

Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

by dtpollitt on Mar 27, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or is it a road race

like this one?

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Mar 27, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, donuts and long-distance running.

Why didn’t I think of that?

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds amazing.

I’d never thought to squish multiple donuts together, either.

FWIW, there’s bar that always passes out beers during the Indianapolis Mini-Marathon around Mile 11. It’s always interesting to see who picks one up – especially when people have no idea they’re getting a cup of beer.

I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg

by Bill Potter on Mar 27, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is Soto doing?

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 27, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions  

He looked pretty good to me last night.

His swing still looks solid – saw him drive a ball up the middle for a single. He’s had only 12 ABs in spring training, but he’s hitting .333/.500/.417, which is very nice. He seems his old self behind the plate, too.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

except for that throw to second that was wide to the right by about 10 feet.

maybe the wind impacted the throw?

It was an inside pitch and Rowand stood his ground, so in fairness, Soto did not have the opportunity to step into his throw. If anything he probably should have just eaten that one and not bothered with the throw.

"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru

by LAcarl519 on Mar 27, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, I must've missed that.

There was also that foul pop off to the first side that Soto and DLee completely lost track of. But, again, the wind really seemed to be messing things up last night.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 27, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes. We had those winds in LA a couple of days earlier.

I am not sure why it took so long (the winds) to get to Phoenix…but it was ugly.

Even my little border collies were getting knocked around and they are pretty low to the ground. :-)

"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru

by LAcarl519 on Mar 27, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

So he looks like he will back to his studly self by opening day?

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 27, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, complete with guyliner.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by daver on Mar 28, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

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