Decisions, Decisions: Cubs vs. Angels at Mesa, Tuesday 3/31, 3:05 CT
by Al Yellon on Mar 31, 2009 1:00 PM CDT
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PrintThe active roster on the Cubs website shows 27 players this morning. There are 13 position players, so those slots have all been completed. There are 14 pitchers, so two of the currently listed hurlers will not make the trip north. On the bubble, I think, would be David Patton (who must make the team or be offered back to the Rockies or waived), Jeff Samardzija, Angel Guzman (out of options) and Chad Gaudin.
What I would like to see is Gaudin traded (good luck, given his poor spring) and Samardzija sent to Iowa to be stretched out to start, with Patton and Guzman making the team. Patton is expected to throw today. Samardzija and Guzman both pitched yesterday, both reasonably well (the runs off them were as a result of Kosuke Fukudome's misplay in CF). Presumably, we will see Kevin Gregg today, as he hasn't pitched in a major league game in a week.
The Angels, who have the best record in either the Cactus or Grapefruit League at 23-6, will send Nick Adenhart, one of their top young pitchers, to face the Cubs today and Brian Fuentes, Scot Shields and Kevin Jepsen will also see action. The Cubs counter with Sean Marshall, who is making his final spring start; the rest of the week will see Carlos Zambrano tomorrow, Ryan Dempster on Thursday, and then Ted Lilly and Rich Harden in New York, before Z starts Monday on Opening Day. (Yes, it's really almost here!)
The Cubs' (and major league) spring training attendance record should fall today; the record of 193,993 was set in 2005 and today's crowd needs to be at least 7,987 to break the mark. Obviously, the larger number of dates this year is the reason for the new record; the average attendance record of 12,125 is in no danger (2009 average: 10,942). Thanks to HoHoKam PA announcer Tim Sheridan for the attendance info, from his site Boys of Spring.
Today's game is available on broadcasts with the Angels announcers, which means we get to hear the wackiness of Rex Hudler again. It's on KLAA radio in the Los Angeles area and on FSN West. The FSN West telecast will also be picked up by MLB Network nationally. You can find these also at the MLB.com Mediacenter.
Discuss amongst yourselves.
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It appears Chad Fox's fantasy camp is finally over.
I received a Gordo tweet a little while ago stating:
Lou and Hendry met this AM: Final pitching decisions to go into weekend. 4 for 2 spots: Samardzija, Gaudin, Patton and Guzman.
I agree with Al. Let’s trade Gaudin, send the Shark to Iowa and roll with the good General and Gooz.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
I'm suprised,
so many people want to get rid of Gaudin, I think I’d much rather take him over Guzman.
why?
he failed to impress last season, and this ST has been even WORSE.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Guzman has more upside, even after all his injuries...
He appears to be healthy for the first time in years to start the season, has gas to spare, and can either start, or preferably slot in the ’pen. Gaudin could help bring something we need from an AL team familiar with him.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's the bullpenn
He had great numbers in Oakland as a starter. I just don’t think he’s cut out to be a reliever. But I do still trust him and I would take him over Guzman because of his Oakland numbers.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
You might want to take a look at his numbers as a starter again.
He started 34 games for the A’s in ’07: 4.42 ERA (95 ERA+), 1.530 WHIP (100 walks in 199.3 innings).
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
You're right
But he did win 11 games. I was actually referring to last years numbers, 5-3 with a 3.59 ERA, and 42 K’s in 62 IP. Plus he’s still only 26.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's not get into wins and losses.
And last season, as a starter, Gaudin went 3-2 with a 3.75 ERA and a 26:10 K:BB in 36 innings. Not bad, actually, but the Cubs aren’t likely to use him as a starter.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Why not?
Move Marshall to the pen and then you have 2 lefties instead of one.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
BECAUSE GAUDIN SUCKS!
Geez. Marshall a good pitcher, who has earned his starting spot. Gaudin, especially after the dumpster, was not very good. Why give him a spot better used by someone else?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Gaudin doesn't stink
Once again, his Oakland numbers.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
How much of that is aided by the fact that McAfee Coliseum
is a pitcher’s park?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Are you sayingqJake Peavy is bad too?
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
No. I'm saying there needs to be an adjustment to account for the park
On of the concerns with Peavy is that his overall numbers would come up because he does play in a dominant pitcher’s park.
Now, I don’t think McAfee Coliseum was the entire reason for Gaudin’s success, but I think it was a factor.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
LOL, yeah, that 1.530 WHIP in '07 looks great.
Or how ’bout that 36:42 K:BB in ’06? Great stuff.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
So?
All that matters is that he stranded them.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
can you guys continue this at the bottom of the thread? ;-)
I keep trying to catch up on all the entries and new ones keep popping up above me…
thx…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Annoying isn't it?
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
wouldn't be so bad if the "z" key really did its job
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
that's an annoying bug
that’s never been fixed.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I've gone to using
shift+c to jump to the bottom of the page, and then using the c key to get to the newest post and using the z key from that point on.
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
Exactly what I do
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
z is the only key that seems to do anything for me.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
the T R L keys are going to be mighty jealous...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Actually, I take it back.
The c function is working now.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
huh.
I’ll have to remember that.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
cool - it's a bit convoluted but it works
how’d you figure that out?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Not too sure
I think I just got lucky once. I was getting really sick of missing new posts that were above my position in the thread because if I pressed the z key, they would just get skipped. So I took some time to figure out a solution, and that is what worked.
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
Oh, he stranded them alright.
He left them right there on base so another A’s pitcher could come in and try to bail him out.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
How about his 1.28 WHIP
In 08?
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about those
I’m talking about his 08 numbers.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That's, like, half a season.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
That's more
Thann Guzmans ever pitched.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Right. I wonder why?
Oh yeah…he’s been injured.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
I know
but the point is, Gaudin has a bigger sample size, injuries or not.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
but that's what we're using
to suggest that Guzman has a higher upside. We KNOW what we get with Gaudin, and it’s not good.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
It was in Oakland
And Gaudin is still young. Even younger than Guzman.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
he played here
you know. I remember. He’d go out there, and leave runners on base for Howry or Marmol.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone has a bad stretch
He started out great, remember.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Right.
And that sample size reveals him to be a journeyman, slightly below league average (per ERA+) pitcher. Those of us on Guzman’s side would rather gamble on Angel’s potential upside, that’s all.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
And in 2009 Spring Training
Gaudin’s WHIP (walks plus hits per 1 inning pitched) is 2.14.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at his career splits...
he’s great in Oakland and Petco….
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
As I tried to say above
With the scatter-shot schedule to begin the season, that’s almost assuredly what will happen. Marshall probably won’t see his first start until April 25th.
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
Marshall isn't a LOOGY (neither is Cotts)...
…so the lack of lefthandedness in the bullpen really doesn’t bother me. Sean has earned his spot as a starter. Given Gaudin’s overall numbers, I wouldn’t even consider starting him over Sean.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Looking at Gaudin's numbers over the course of his career....
…I’m just not sold on the guy. True, he was pitching very well for Oakland last season before he was traded to the Cubs, but his numbers in other years are all over the map – and not in a good way.
Meanwhile, I still believe that Angel Guzman has good stuff. I just think he has confidence issues, which may spring from the inconsistent playing time he’s had to endure because of his injury woes. I’m gambling that if he can settle in as a reliever, he can finally show some of that talent.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
FWIW, Guzman did look sharp yesterday
Both of his breaking balls consistently fooled Kansas City hitters over his 1.1 innings. The one quibble I had yesterday was his throwing over to first to hold the runners – it seemed like he got a tad preoccupied with it.
Still, he’s looking better, and if the Cubs can find a way to keep him on the roster, I think he has the physical tools to really emerge as a key bullpen component during the season.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Agree on Gaudin. I keep seeing post about
his past numbers, but he has yet to have a solid performance where I feel confident about him. He just seems to have never gotten off the ground with the Cubs. I hope they settle on Guzman. I think his body is ready to let him pitch and a few good outings could send him off.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
naturally it also depends on the roles each would serve
Gaudin is essentially a long reliever and Guzman now is a short middle reliever.
Going with 12 pitchers diminishes the need for a long reliever
Gaudin appears to be lock and load and loaded
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Loaded for what?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
loaded enough
to run into a dumpster.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
gosh that only took one post
loaded into the cannon to be shot to another venue
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
He's
at least shown he can play at the major league level, I dont remember the last time I had any hope for Guzman.
As mentioned, Guzman's problem has been injuries.
Like Kerry Wood, Angel may be able to avoid those troubles pitching out the pen instead of trying to be a starter.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
I'm with you daver...
Patience and hope will be a Cubs fan best friend this year.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Also,
I think I’d like to see what Guzman can bring in a trade, I mean if Gaudin is as bad as everyone thinks, I dont thing they would get anything useful for him for him.
Yabbut is moving Guzman because he can bring more a reason to keep Gaudin on the
roster? If he is going to pitch like he has since his arrival, I don’t want him on the roster. Sometimes the best move is not to make a trade.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs lineup for today
Per Muskat Ramblings:
Alfonso Soriano, LF
Kosuke Fukudome, CF
Derrek Lee, 1B
Micah Hoffpauir, RF
Aramis Ramirez, 3B
Mike Fontenot, 2B
Geovany Soto, C
Ryan Theriot, SS
Sean Marshall, P
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Good line-up...
Except for Hoff in the OF. It is ST though, so it can’t really hurt. Good to see Dome in the #2 hole, where he will see more fastballs, and also be able to use his plate discipline to the team advantage. Go Cubs Go.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
Why is Hoff in the lineup at OF? He has proven that he can hit, why not just put Joey out there? Hoff looks so much more comfortable at first. At this point, I don’t think his OF defense is going to improve much, so why force it?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Presumably because
Hoff will (unfortunately) get time in the outfield during the season. Might as well give him practice in games that don’t count.
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
I think that's a stretch. If you are forced to use Hoff in the OF to get his bat
in the lineup, then it will come back to bite you. I love his bat, but hate his play in the outfield.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here.
I’m at peace with Hoffpauir’s place on the roster. He’s earned it. In fact, I’d like to see him to spell DLee at first once a week or so. But, with five outfielders on the roster already, keep him on the bench or in the infield.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Lou
seems to love Hoff’s bat enough to play him in right field in order to give Bradley some days off, while not hurting the offensive production as much. Don’t get me wrong, I would much rather see Gathright or Reed in right when Bradley needs a day off, but Lou seems to be enamored enough with Hoff’s bat to harm the team’s defense.
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
Seems to be another one of his blind spots.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Hoffpauir will doubtful see the outfield when the games count
I think Hoffpauir in the outfield today is a case of Lou trying to get him as many at bats as possible.
I hope you are right
but I fear Lou will seize the opportunity to get both DLee’s and Hoff’s bat in the lineup when Bradley needs a day off. unfortunately that means Hoff plays in right.
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
I'd rather see Hoffpauir begin to prepare for a pinch-hitting role
He’s gotten plenty of at bats this spring, and with a week to go, it would be prudent for him to begin mentally and physically preparing to move to a pinch-hitting role, as that will be his primary role this season.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
We have to keep Patton
Either offer Colorado something to send him to the minors or leave him on the roster. If you aren’t going to keep Patton after what he’s shown, there is no point in even drafting a Rule 5 player.
Samardzija goes down to Iowa to stretch out and start. That solves one spot. My best guess is that Gaudin comes up with an “injury” in the next couple of days. Otherwise, unless you can make a deal for him, just release him. The trade was for Harden, not Gaudin. There are lots of players of equal ability to Gaudin out there.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 31, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if Colorado would have interest in Gaudin
That would kill two birds with one stone.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
After what he has shown, would you?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt it
Unless we pay Gaudin’s salary. They don’t want to take a contract back. They’d want a prospect.
Besides, that wouldn’t make much sense from our standpoint. We only need to kill one bird because the Shark can go down to Iowa. If we ship Gaudin out to Colorado, then we have the roster spot to keep Patton and we wouldn’t need to offer anything to Colorado. Makes more sense to just release Gaudin.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 31, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
How realistic, do ya think,
is it for that Gaudin “mystery injury” scenario to play out? Is that a common practice among MLB teams around cut-time? Cuz I would love for this situation to unfold as you speculated/hoped it might.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark
by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Mar 31, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I seem to remember
the Cubs pulling it a few times in years past.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 31, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Gaudin could conceivably file a grievance
If Gaudin wants to stay (or knows he can’t catch on with another team if released), then he could accept the “mystery injury.” However, if he doesn’t feel that he is injured, he could file a grievance in order to force the Cubs to put him on the active roster, trade him, or release him.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Ok
I was wondering what kind of say-so Chad would have in the whole matter.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark
by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Keep Patton AND Guzman???
This is the Cubs, not the Pirates or the Marlins. We are trying to make the playoffs. So we are going to allocate not one but two valuable bullpen spots to what can best be described to projects?!? On a pitching staff that has three starters in Lilly, Harden and Marshall who aren’t known for pitching long into games. And then out of the other side of mouths we will hear howling screams of disapproval on how much Carlos Marmol is used.
If the Cubs like Patton, then the Cubs need to swing a deal with Colorado to enable them to send him to the minors. If it weren’t for Patton being a Rule V pickup he would have never even sniffed Mesa this spring. Getting carried away with his performance in spring training games is very foolish, no matter what his promise and upside down the road might be.
Guzman is an enigmatic injury-plagued reliever who can’t get it done. Its just that simple. You can only fool yourself for so long and keep saying this kid has a big arm. At some point the bait needs to be cut. If he had options left, then he most definitely would already be assigned to Iowa.
Keep Gaudin and cross fingers. Scour the waiver wire for another serviceable option for the last bullpen spot. And pray like hell that the arms down in Des Moines are ready and able to help out this bullpen at some stage in the season.
Give the outrage a rest will ya Chicken Little?
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
The early part of the schedule
Is dictating that we really only need 4 starters to start. What happens to your equation when Marshall is your long relief for Harden/Lilly?
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
you would have cut Woody
before last year, wouldn’t you.
if the arms we send to Iowa are the arms you say aren’t ready for what we need now, why will they be any better later in the season? After all, AAA is for dregs like Pie and Murton.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong. Gaudin sucks. The guy can't miss a bat. You say their nit the Pirates or the
Marlin, but you advocate keeping a guy who has shown absolutely no ability to get anyone out? Move Patton or Guzman, but don’t pin your hopes on Gaudin suddenly finding it somehow.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
But
its not much different than pinning your hopes on Guzman suddenly finding it. I guess I just don’t think either decision would be too bad.
Guzman has a bigger upside. Either one is a gamble, I just feel that going
with Guzman is a smarter bet.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The waiver wire isn't likely to yield anything better than...
…Rule V-type guys and enigmantic injury-plagued relievers. Let’s just roll with the ones we’ve got and make adjustments as possible/necessary.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
What exactly has Gaudin done to prove that he deserves that $2 million?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
He’s a journeyman, nothing more.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
They could go that route, too.
It all depends on whether Gaudin’s horrible performance both during spring training and toward the end of last season has placed his effectiveness in doubt in the eyes of Lou Piniella.
At this point, I’d rather gamble on Guzman’s good stuff.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
If Guzman is really as you say
then you just release him.
And I don’t know why you think Gaudin is worth keeping. What has he shown in his major league career that shows that he’s anything more than a replaceable journeyman?
by Josh Timmers on Mar 31, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Precisely WHAT has Angel Guzman shown that makes people excited about him being a piece of a bullpen situation that is otherwise dubious and is expected to get a heavy workout? Angel Guzman is Roberto Novoa only with more injuries.
Only you would make a comparison like that. Picking a pitcher
who eternally sucked to compare to Guzman doesn’t make your case any stronger.
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
because
current performance shows Gaudin to be pretty crappy, and potential upside is in favor of Guzman.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Just like "potential upside" on Felix PIe, right??
The same Pie who is batting .197 in Baltimore camp and is being beat out for a roster spot by Louis Montanez.
didn't this already get disproven?
Pie is going to get plenty of starts in Baltimore. Certainly, he’ll get better treatment then he ever got in Chicago.
It’s like if a ball-player doesn’t spring, full formed, from the forehead of Pete Rose, you can’t possibly think that it’s worth it to take a flyer on him.
And I LOVE how you constantly worry about how Harden isn’t known for going ate in games when last year, you wanted him to father your children.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Rich Harden is an ace caliber pitcher pal
Felix Pie? He isn’t going to make the Baltimore 25 man roster by all accounts. Montanez and Luke Scott are going to be playing in left field. But hey, feel free to keep defending the great Felix Pie and how Lou Piniella destroyed the 24 year old bust.
Rich Harden didn't look like an "ace calibar pitcher" in his lone playoff appearance last year pal.
This isn’t Pittsburgh. We need players that can perform under the pressure cooker of the playoffs.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
It'll be tough for Montanez to beat out Pie
Now that Montanez has been optioned to Norfolk. And Luke Scott is going to DH most days.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
400+ at-bats
Despite an inconsistent showing in camp, Pie is expected to get 400-plus at-bats as Baltimore’s primary left fielder.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-28-rogers-baseball-mar28,0,7239024.column
400+ at bats! in a SINGLE SEASON!
If Rich Harden were an ace-caliber pitcher, “PAL”, he’d go longer than 5 innings on a regular basis.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Guzman
has had potential for a long time now, I just don’t see him fulfilling it. And I don’t think Gaudin’s current performance will stay the same. He’s obviously not as bad as he’s shown this spring.
is he as bad
as he showed last year?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
only when he came to the cubs, otherwise his first half was pretty good. I’d take my chances with a guy that has shown he can succeed.
Again, go look at his 2003-2007 numbers.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Chad Gaudin has pitched 449 innings at the major league level.
Angel Guzman has pitched 96 innings at the major league level.
The point here is, when you look really hard at Gaudin’s numbers, you can see what you’re probably getting. Guzman has a much smaller sample but much greater potential.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
But he hasn't shown any flashes of goodness
Gaudin has. And I say this once again, GAUDIN IS YOUNGER.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
what are these flashes? I don’t really remember Gaudin coming in last year at any point and really impressing.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Not with the Cubs
With Oakland.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember a couple games against the brewers..
.. where he got Braun looking a couple times and he looked real good
Yeah, we have seen flashes of goodness.
Guzman put together a stretch of good outings as a reliever in ‘07. He had a couple good outings as a starter in ’06. He’s been injured. And age isn’t the same factor for pitchers as it is for position players. Pitchers often develop later.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Gaudin has a bigger sample size
Gaudin has had more than “a stretch of good outings”. He had a nice half season with Oakland last year.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I've seen enough of Guzman to take a pass on his future potential
This guy has been living off the potential label for years. And he has never delivered. He needed to seize opportunity this spring and failed. Therefore I’m inclined to go with Gaudin. In Gaudin I know what the good and bad is. “IF” he can get his act together then he is a proven rubber arm inning-eater out of the pen.
I'm really glad you're not the GM
we’d have David Eckstein on the team, because we know what his good and bad are.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He impressed in 2007...
before he got injured. I don’t know, I think I’d rather have Guzman’s upside.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
That's a little like saying
that because the bankers brought in record profits from 2000-2008, we should expect them to do so now.
Gaudin came to the Cubs, and didn’t seem to bring ANYTHING with him.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
The point is
He’s shown that he’s a good pitcher. Guzman hasn’t.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Using the term "good" a bit subjectively there, aren't you?
"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray
Fine
Decent. Happy? Gaudin is also younger. It just makes no sense to take Guzman over him.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
tell me
because I really don’t remember. Were you in favor of Maddux coming back to the cubs in the second half of last year?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you intentionally ignoring the point that's been made several times over?
Guzman has been injured.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Just like Kerry Wood didn't have it anymore?
He’s not injured now. He had (IIRC) TJ surgery. He’s recovered from it. As long as he limits his IP, he’ll be fine.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
The Padres seem to think so.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Prior and Woody’s situations aren’t comparable. And there’s sufficient evidence that Prior ISN’T recovered…
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
you’re almost deliberately ignoring Guzman’s potential.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Im not ignoring it,
I know he once had potential, I just dont think he does anymore. And Gaudin is like 2 years younger than Guzman, so I’d rather take Gaudin’s potential.
We've seen Gaudin's capabilities.
We haven’t seen Guzman’s.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, you appear to have misread something there.
We haven’t seen Guzman’s capabilities in as large a sample as we have Gaudin. So we can’t say that Gaudin is better.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
continue
to disagree.
Guzman’s upsides are better.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
performance isn't a function of age
especially when it comes to pitchers. Gaudin is younger than Maddux; woud you say Gaudin is a better pitcher?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
did I stutter?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
you just said that Gaudin was better than Guzman
in part because he’s younger.
Gaudin is younger than a whole LOT of pitchers. Is he better than all of them too?
We know what we get with Gaudin, and it’s a bag of suck. Guzman has a much greater POTENTIAL. You’d think that a team looking to achieve HIGHER than last year’s bar would go for more POTENTIAL.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
we're soooooooooooooooo
close to this edge —→
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Mar 31, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I fancy myself a pretty edgy guy.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
I'm edgy like a very, very, very, very, very, very sharp razor.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
I hope we don't go
I haz blurg: hotbeans.wordpress.com
by digitalbenjamin on Mar 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I just weep
At how good that kids was at 22 years. To think the Cubs could have him, Z, Harden, Dempster, and Lilly. That’s 3 aces, and 2 #2 starters.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, at the end of the day...
…whether it’s Guzman or Gaudin (or Patton), none of these guys is a silver bullet for what ails the Cubs bullpen.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
*ahem*
His first 10 appearances in a Cubs uniform:
W L ERA G IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO
2 1 1.54 10 11.2 8 3 2 1 0 1 13
K/IP of 1.16, WHIP of .803 and 13Ks vs. 1BB
I wouldn’t call that nothing. Of course, then the dumpster happened, and things fell off a cliff.
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
fair enough
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the key here
is that we know what we have with Gaudin, a journeyman reliever with little upside. Guzman has shown really good stuff, but his opportunity to excel at the major league level has been cut short by injury. If Guzman can avoid another injury (as he should pitching out of the bullpen), he will be better than Gaudin.
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
Guzman hasn't shown anything
Good or bad. He’s been injured. You take the chance with someone who has upside. With Gaudin, you’re getting someone who you know is going to be mediocre at best. With Guzman, you get someone who might be worse, but at least has a chance to help the team.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 31, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
This isn't Pittsburgh
This is Chicago, and we are trying once again to make the playoffs. Cubs don’t have the luxury of squirreling away a couple projects on a 25 man roster.
How bout we focus on "winning" in the playoffs instead of just "making" them?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
Are you arrogant enough to sit here at the end of March and say the Cubs already have made the 2009 playoffs?
Are you stupid enough to not understand what I just said?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
No
He’s saying that the cubs have made the playoffs the last 2 years, so if they made them again and didn’t go anywhere again, it wouldn’t be successful. Their eyes are on the world series.
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 31, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
u r smrt.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
we don't have the luxury
of using players that we know aren’t up to snuff.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
We only use players who use...
…whole leaf tobacco.
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
But if the Cubs resort to the waiver wire...
…they’ll be doing just that – squirreling away a project they hope will turn out to be better than Guzman.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Oh
But they have the luxury of squirreling away a mediocre journeyman like Gaudin?
This isn’t Pittsburgh. The Cubs don’t have the luxury of keeping Gaudin.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 31, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
And I’d add another thing Guzman has shown: scouting reports. IIRC, at one point, scouts cited Guzman has having better pure stuff than Carlos Zambrano. Angel just hasn’t been able to stay healthy. Again, if he can settle into his role as a bullpen guy, he’ll be just fine – and likely better than Chad Gaudin.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Ahem.
On a pitching staff that has three starters in Lilly, Harden and Marshall who aren’t known for pitching long into games.
All 3 of these guys average about 6 innings per start. Jake Peavy averages about 6.3.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
BTW Cubs attendance down 9.98% from the record on game average
Makes sense in light of the economic climate. like to know the other teams in the Cactus League to compare…
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
also makes sense...
in light of the increased supply of spring training tickets. There were more games. Not saying that the economy wasn’t a factor, however I’d put money on the fact that had this been a normal spring tickets would not have been down that much.
that is why I wanted to see the other games
the thing is like always it is a combination of things.
One could try to remove the early extra games and compare the same set of games and dates to get a better idea. The thing about average gate is that it usually should not deviate that much even with extra dates, 10% is 10% though.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
Last week of ST here we come!!!
Hopefully this means the last of the snow is gone as well…
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 2:05 PM CDT reply actions
Marmol needs arm insurance from Lloyds of London
Because I’ve got to tell you, if you guys want a bullpen to include as its membership David Patton, Angel Guzman, Neal Cotts, Aaron Heilman and Luis Vizcaino to go along with three starting pitchers in Ted Lilly, Rich Harden and Sean Marshall who don’t pitch particularly deep into ballgames then expect Carlos Marmol to lead the league in appearances and bullpen innings pitched.
All of you who endorse Patton and Guzman in this bullpen has better not be the same names screaming at Lou Piniella when he throws Marmol out on the mound a bajillion times out of necessity.
I suppose that Gaudin is the elixer that will cure this illness?
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Mar 31, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Guadin is Bob Howry reduex.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Howry
was actually a good pitcher for the cubs for a few years, and he’s bound to come back from an awful year.
he was a good pitcher for us in '06 and '07
But I think he’s done. The guy’s been around for a long time.
at 35?
Doubtful.
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet he's worse
when you depend on a mid 90s fastball on the outside corner and hit 35… velocity becomes more like low 90s high 80s.
I think he’s done.
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I concur
He’ll be worse!! He’s a nice guy but throws nothing but 90 mph fastballs over the plate. He is meat to any good hitter. He’s nothing but a middlin middle reliever that never could make it as a closer.
"He can't hit, he can't field, he can't run—all he can do is beat you."
And that is likely still better than banking on Angel Guzman or putting a David Patton into the fire
Bob Howry DID serve an important role in 2008 because he DID take the ball and DID give his team bullpen innings. Granted, he often stunk. But don’t underestimate the innings he ate. Nobody was able to step up and do the role job that Howry did. I’ll take my chances on the “proven” Gaudin fulfilling such a role much more than I will a Single A pitcher in Patton who has chance of being destroyed more than helped by being in the bigs too soon. And Guzman too.
So just as long as they "eat" the innings...
it’s ok with you if they also take juicy steaming dumps on the mound while they do it?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
SWL - are you feeling okay?
it’s not like you to use such descriptive words when a simple picture would do…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I would rather
fill the role that Howry played (crappy innings eater) with someone who could actually get batters out. I have more faith in Guzman than Gaudin.
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
unbelieveable
your rewriting of history knows no bounds.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Because I’ve got to tell you
It really is like a compulsion with you, yes.
All of you who endorse Patton and Guzman in this bullpen has better not be the same names screaming at Lou Piniella when he throws Marmol out on the mound a bajillion times out of necessity.
Or what?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
dangit
foiled by the reply button! CURSE YOU, MEGATRON!!!!!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
So how's the weather down south here?
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Chillier than it has any right to be
“Out like a lamb” my fanny…
"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
It certainly
isn’t raining comments like it is further north.
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
Wait'll the game begins.
A hurricane is going to sweep through here.
Aw crap, the game IS about to begin.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
You're right, gotta
get the media center up and running
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
Why is there no
live box score for today’s game?
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
Oh yeah, you're right. No idea.
I’ve got the audio running now. Sounds like Marshall’s in a spot of trouble.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
why isn't the mlb.tv link active yet?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
MLB's Webmaster is too busy with the Guzman vs. Gaudin debate.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Nice
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
by 14theofleury on Mar 31, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I have been pulling my hair out...
…I thought I was doing something wrong… I’m glad (but not too glad) someone else is having trouble.
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
by 14theofleury on Mar 31, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Angels announcers
talking about the Cubs lack of intensity during base running drills, compared to the Angels
“the cubs players don’t wear their helmets, the players just look like they are going through the motions”
Marshall K’s Hunter to end the inning. 1-0 Angels
Kosuke singles up the middle.
Take that downtown…AND PRINT IT!!!!
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Prolly happened
cuz the Cubs don’t wear their helmets during base running drills.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." ~Alvin Dark
by DamonBerryhillsMitt on Mar 31, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
They show no passion for the drill.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Make sure you have safe search turned on when you google that phrase. Yowsa!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
And he gets picked off first.
I think I’m just going to focus on my work here.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
sigh.
at least it’s not a mistake he’s likely to make a lot.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Dome
reaches out and gets one basehit. Then gets picked off of fist when slipping off the base on a throw to 1st by the catcher
Naturally, DLee immediately singles.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
haz anyone got a working link to the mlb.tv broadcast?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
I refreshed the mlb.com home page about five times...
…and the link never showed up.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
it's not active for me either
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yet the ad stating the game will be available today...
…is still on the right side of the media center page, cursing me.
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
by 14theofleury on Mar 31, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
this seems
different from before… can’t put my finger on it…
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Marshall strikes out...
…Cubs-utility-infielder-to-never-be Maicer Izturis.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
The General better make the team!
SWL you have to put his pic on General Patton’s photo if he does!
#34: You'll be missed!
I didn't understand the connection, but I liked Shanghai's photo much better
of course, probably not so much if Patton’s head goes on Berry’s body…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
nope, got that part (duh...)
The other day Shangai posted a Halle Berry pic right in response to a General Patton pic. The connection went right over my head, but given the lovely outfit Halle was wearing, I didn’t see a need to ask questions then…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Ladies and gentlemen...Sean Christopher Marshall!
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
he's got a twin brother too, perhaps sign him??!!
Marshall is one of my favorite players, being that he’s from my hometown. Plus, I got his autograph when he was a rookie while at a game in DC. Met his pap and twin bro too, so I want him to do very well!
#34: You'll be missed!
Oh yeah.
I wonder what’s become of his twin brother – he was a minor league pitcher at some point recently. That’s cool you met Sean. I’ve always been a fan, too.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
yeah, though I almost got Lee's autograph first
I was in the stands at the dugout. He came RIGHT over to my area, so I decided to roll the ball to him to make it sure got there. It didn’t because it turned. By the time I got the ball back he was gone. He did say, “man that was weak!” jokingly!
But I was able to rush over to Marshall near the bullpen area, snag his autograph. I could tell it was him because of his length and he was hugging someone from the stands that looked like his pap, so It was a success! Didn’t say much to him, but I wish I did.
#34: You'll be missed!
HE IS THE LAW!
Oooh…we need a picture of Sean Marshall’s body with Judge Dredd’s head.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Mar 31, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh oh, one of the Angel radio guys is taking a break. Cue the outrage...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Could be worse
As happened in Fort Lauderdale over the weekend, when the announcers left.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
They should have let some fans call the game.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
That would have been fun.
Kind of like when they let little kids introduce the batter coming to the plate.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Seeing Abreu at the plate reminds me
Did we ever settle the Free Agent Tracker Contest?
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Can't remember.
I don’t think so.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Might be time to wrap that one up.
Check results here.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Guys, I can't seem to get Gameday to work
Sorry to disturb your Gaudin v. Guzman arguments, but can anybody tell me the score? Thanks.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
you need to spend the $ for MLB.TV so you can watch the games...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I meant just the Flash PxP thingy
It’s been weird since yesterday and it’s not opening today.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
shocking.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
yes!
we are REALLY getting close to the season!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
So maybe those Angels announcers were on to something
when they said the Cubs were a little lazy in their pregame baserunning.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Yeah, really. Who's laughing now?
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
He was just trying to make Dome feel better.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Somewhere in Arizona...
…ONEDEC is lighting another cigar and laughing oh so softly to himself… ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
It's because
he didn’t wear his helmet during the base running drills before the game
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
The Mariners/Indians game link on mlb.tv just went live
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions
if you open that feed and go to the "today's games" at the top...you can get to the cubs game.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Torii Hunter.
Yeah, whatever.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
tell you what - I didn't need the radio guys to tell me that was smoked.
I loved hearing just the crack of the bat. Wish the announcers would take their time coming back from between innings all the time.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
nothing in the world is quite like that sound
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Help me out kiddo...
What’s the inning, score, etc… you know all the fun stuff!
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Tori Hunter solo HR
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions
Morales doubles
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by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
Where do you reside SWL?
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
San Diego
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap...
I just went to SD for the 1st time this past Sat. Saw an old buddy of my friend that lives down there, and saw his roommate’s band AGAVE at the Tiki! Small world.
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Izturis singles.
Runners on 1st and 3rd.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Marshall looing like Rich Hill...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions
Injured?
Or ineffective?
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
by 14theofleury on Mar 31, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, this is turning into a meltdown.
3-0, runners at second and third. No outs.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Hope
I hope your being sarcastic. Reacting this way to a bad spring outing.
My friend had his heart transplant on 3/21. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 31, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Or...
Is he wearing an Orioles uniform?
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
by 14theofleury on Mar 31, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
he walked the bases loaded
and still hasn’t recorded an out.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
One bad game
One bad game means he’s turning into Rich Hill. Right.
My friend had his heart transplant on 3/21. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 31, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
remember its swl
he who is never serious.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
The difference between BCb and other sites is when we do this the regulars are being goofy. The other sites they are completely serious.
My friend had his heart transplant on 3/21. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Update anyone?
Inning, score, etc…
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Top 4
no outs, bases loaded, 3 runs in. 3-0 Angels.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks babe!
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
C'mon triple play!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions
Marshall is just setting this Angels team up for the WS game 5 that he's going to start.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
That's more likely
That’s more likely thn him becominganother Rich Hill.
My friend had his heart transplant on 3/21. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 31, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would he start game five?
Everyone else injured? Or are they going to play the World Series in consecutive days for once?
Censorship of anything, at any time, in any place, on whatever pretense, has always been and will always be the last resort of the boob and the bigot.
—Eugene O’Neill
by 14theofleury on Mar 31, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You think after Dempster walks another 6 in Game 1 Lou will let him start Game 5?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Or more likely
or more likely Dempster will have a good game 1 and Marshall will be in the pen for the series.
My friend had his heart transplant on 3/21. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 31, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
think we walk 5 again and win?
only if we’re playing Dusty.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Apparently the first out is the hardest to record
what on earth is up sean!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:05 PM CDT reply actions
Gaudin could've have gotten out of this inning by now.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions
think guzman could've?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
He'd have thrown his
favorite dumpster at the Angels by now.
"It's the fans that need spring training. You gotta get 'em interested. Wake 'em up and let 'em know that their season is coming, the good times are gonna roll." ~ Harry Caray
I'm glad I'm not watching this.
At least he got an out.
Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.
I've got the mlb.tv feed running now.
Sadly enough.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Al informs me via Twitter that Patton is warming up.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Obviously the Marshall Plan didn't work out as intended so The General has to come clean it up
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Bad foreign policy forces military action.
Oh, sorry, no politics.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
just wait until we pick up Infante as a backup infielder
Then we could have General Omar Bradley on the field!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
So anyone watching
could you tell what was up in that 4th inning? Marshall seemed to be doing okay in the early innings… was he missing by as much as gameday made it seem?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions
The problem was he wasn't missing.
They were hitting everything he threw up there.
Now Patton isn’t doing much better. Maybe the Angels are just hot today.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Sucks
glad the game means nothing.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Soto must be mad at the pitching staff and telling the batters what's coming.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
It's his last start for a while
So he’ll have time to work the kinks out.
I love to play baseball. I'm a baseball player. I've always been a baseball player. I'm still a baseball player. That's who I am. - Ryne Sandberg
Crap, first day I'm trying to actually follow a full game...
and Gameday won’t come up on my computer, anybody got a feed for audio, or gameday like deal?
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
I think it's my processor...
too slow, but it should still get gameday I think.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
don't know
gameday is running decently for me. its slow but thats b/c its ST.
what browser are you using?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Firefox or Safari...
I think it’s my flash player, I’m upgrading now…
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
hope that works
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
There's that General Patton curve ball. Very nice.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
The inning that would never end
yes it goes on and on my friend
some people started watching it not knowing what it was
and they’ll be watching it forever because!!!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions
Finally over.
Patton settled down pretty nicely. But let’s not put him on the team because, y’know, he’s never pitched above A ball and stuff.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
he's never been above single A?
For reals?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I keep hearing.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
he probably never played second base either
does that mean he knows nothing about baseball?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
And he’s 29 YEARS OLD! (poking fun at self here)
My friend had his heart transplant on 3/21. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 31, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The other day I was resting and watching TV and I couldn’t remember who was the third puppet after Lamb Chop and Hush Puppie. I actually got out of bed turned on my computer and googled it, I need help.
My friend had his heart transplant on 3/21. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 31, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
thats just sad
how is your friend doing after his transplant? everything going okay?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Doing well
Doing well. Just talked to my brother who talked to him this morning.
He’s been best friends with my brother since our moms were hospital roommates when they were born.
They were each others best man and he’s Godfather to my brother’s oldest.
My friend had his heart transplant on 3/21. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers.
by puckishcubsfan on Mar 31, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Good to hear
:-)
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Its Marshall!
anyone else want to join in strangling this Angels televsion guy? He called Sean Marshall Sean Gallagher about 20 times.
The first time I thought I just misheard
but now I am ready to strangle him too
by madeindetroit on Mar 31, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Dome routine fly ball to left for the first out.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions
D. LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Two-bagger.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Well I just keep thinking, only a few short more days
six days, just six days…
#34: You'll be missed!
I presume the lineup for opening day will go as followed:
Soriano LF
Fukudome CF
Lee 1b
Bradley RF
Ramirez 3B
Fontenot 2b
Soto C
Theriot SS
Zambrano P
#34: You'll be missed!
I could go for that
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Dome needs to see fastballs!
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Soto is more of a threat than Lee is
and I could very easily swap the two, but given the tenure Lee has…
#34: You'll be missed!
unless we're facing a lefty
Has Oswalt been announced as OD starter?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Wandy and Hampton are listed as 2 and 3 in their rotation
both are lefties.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
it'll be an early test to see if LBR really is the primary 2B or if it's a platoon
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
me too...then when we trade him I can whine and cry about it.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
and have some kind of elaborate breakdown
when he kills us in ST?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
exactly, LBR is just not an everyday guy...
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
missed the sarcasm...
messing with my settings, and I’m back for the first time in 6 months…
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Hoffpauir FO9.
I was trying to log in to Flickr at the time.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Rami gets the baby bears on the board!
woohoo!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions
Updating my flash player did the trick.
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
cool
good to know for the next time my gameday goes all wonky.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Bases juiced for Theriot.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
time for a weak one to the right side...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, it would been better if it escaped the infield!
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Give the guy a break....
the infield is like 100 feet deep!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
HA LOL...
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
You called it.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
At least Patton doesn't have to come out
Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.
Vaughn?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm telling you, if MLB had half a brain...
…they’d offer another version of Gameday Audio with no announcers – just the sounds of the game and the PA guy.
Call it Gameday Old School.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
i love that you get that in the commerical breaks
all the chatter and the PA voices and the warmup pitches. Its very nifty.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
sadly....that would be over 3/8ths more than they currently have.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd go for that.
I once joked that XM Radio should have a “sounds of baseball” channel that just played ambient noise from a baseball game. The crowd, the vendors, the occasional crack of the bat. It would make nice background listening here at work.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
there was a cable company many years ago in North Carolina I think
that broadcasted a fish tank 24/7 on one of their surplus channels.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
My cats would like that.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
dish network has the nasa channel
which seems to just be a fixed camera in space. its bizarre and i love space.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
is the decaying spam website still up and running?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
the what?
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
there used to be a website, or maybe a webcam would be more accurate
displaying nothing but a plate of SPAM. you know, the kind you eat. Well, maybe not you and certainly not me, but some people….
Anyway, it had been up for years, and its sole purpose seemed to be to show the natural decomposition of SPAM. And scary to say, it wasn’t decomposing very fast…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Never heard of that
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
keep that to yerself
You know the used car salesman will try to steal it… develop it yerself & make some cash!
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
yikes, Marshall's stats look putrid now
good thing this game didn’t come earlier..
#34: You'll be missed!
But he's younger than Zambrano.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
and he's been above A ball!
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Back in the clubhouse, Aaron Heilman punches a locker.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
as long as its not a catcher
lord knows we’d never hear the end of that.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
daver, who was the guy that was always on the last two years
then moved to Santa Barbara & started doing minor league games?
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, um...northsider, I think?
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
that's the guy,
where’s he been, haven’t seen him in a long time…
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
good one.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
he left bcb
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
why?
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't find the comment
but he got tired of some of the stuff that went on here and split.
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess he's too busy doing "real" baseball analysis...
…to hang with us peons.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
makes sense...
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by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen...GENERAL PATTON!
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Consider it done
No way he isnt making this team. No way.
He's in like flynn.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
my best friend is albino
and i think she’s got more color on her face than his gameday picture.
wow is he pale!
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
heh, who would have thought Patton would have made the team at the beginning of spring training?
#34: You'll be missed!
I think he deserves a shot at this point
Hes been nothing short of great…especially compared to his competition
He kind of reminds me of
Les Lancaster. The way he’s staying with the team and all.
Greg Maddux could put a baseball through a Life Saver if you asked him. ~ Joe Morgan
by Sioux City Cubs Fan on Mar 31, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of Fully K, Al informs me that he's warming up.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Holy Crap
Dome with a triple? Did that really just happen?
Oh, it happened.
I guess the Iowa Cubs have a lot to look forward to.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Not gonna happen daver...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I was too lazy to post sarcasm indicator...
…but I certainly hope not.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
I'm out of practice after being away and now living in paradise.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
So you're the one Eddie Money gave his other ticket too...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
You're in the jungle, baby!!!
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Yes, it did...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Lee with his 2nd double today.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:41 PM CDT reply actions
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions
What did Hoff do?
My computer froze up.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
so did he after being distracted by SWL's picture...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Hm, maybe photoshopped EA pics don't work.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
That's not shopped.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude....
if was going to shop of pic of her with her mouth open and tongue out….don’t you think there would be something else in the pic to make the composition of the said picture a little more awesome that that one?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I must admit...
…I was surprised to not see a guy in a bunny suit or some sort of strange half repitillian/half mammalian woodland creature.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
evidently that pose...
tongue out and thumb, forefinger, and pinkie extended, is a popular one with the kids these days. Not sure what it means – perhaps someone here with teenage kids can do some research?
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Well, whatever it is, it's highly inappropriate!
Harumph!
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
get off my lawn!
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
weak grounder to 1B
The shortest distance between two points is under construction.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
she looks tasty!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
grounded out weakly to the pitcher
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
gotta go charge the laptop battery, back later ya'll...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
later jimmy
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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Mar 31, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Now that's a shocking development.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
are you positive it's not?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Fully K works out of jam.
Middle 6, 8-3 Angels
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Make that 8-2.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Do the words "total pwnage" mean anything to you?
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Mmmm, not exactly.
But he bailed out Sean Marshall, and then came back to pitch another scoreless inning.
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
Bid deal...
Angel Guzman could have done that.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
and guzman has been injured
and with the org for a decade
I think you have your Generals mixed up - it was MacArthur that came back...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Well, Patton hit the wounded soldier, so...
Patton broke the boom box?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
Spoiler alert: The Germans lose.
Later!
"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09
just read this and commit it to memory...
and you’ll pass with flying colors.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That is perhaps the best history lesson ever.
Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? - Jim Bouton
Crappy laptop battery...
Need a new one for this old IBook! Now let’s get some runs.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
Always a baseball reference, always...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Rally time!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions
Let's get some runs!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
It is spring training, but I would like to see a win...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
That picture of Erin with her tongue out will haunt me until my dying day.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
more haunting...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
That's slightly on the creepy side.
Or did I say kinky?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
That's ill...
Have you ever been to the Tiki? From what I understand it’s not far from Petco…
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
never been. I'm not too much into the club/concert scene
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
gotcha...
Me neither, it was just a lark that we happened into town when they were playing, and got to see some live music. When I was young I was into the concert scene, but not much anymore.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
If BCB were of the catholic persuasion...
…your penance for posting that comes out to about 10 hail marys and at least 5 our fathers.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I guess I'll just have to live with the guilt instead.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Here comes the Hoff!
Let’s hope all the Hoff love can get us a long one…
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
Hoff HR
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions
It was the Hoff love that did it!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
here's a chance to rid yourself of all that guilt - howsabout a nice celebratory pic for the Hoff!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 31, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, that's the Hoff I want to see!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
to love and to serve the Cubs!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's safe to say the shields have sustained heavy damage...
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
This thread is so slow.........
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
I have no access to the game at all
so I’m just waiting on updates from any of you guys.
Plus, I have nothing of substance to contribute (no news there).
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
It's 8-4 Angels, one out, top of the 9th.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Mar 31, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Two outs now...
The the Cubs come back to the plate…
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
Time for a 9th inning rally...
Let’s get some runs!!!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
Come on Theriot, let's get it started!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
down go the Cubs.
I guess it all starts with the “alert” base-running.
Let’s leave that crap in AZ
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
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