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MESA, Arizona -- If you thought you saw me scamper out of the way of Torii Hunter's two-run homer in the fourth inning on today's MLB Network telecast of the game, you were correct. The ball smashed onto our blanket, woke up Jessica who was napping, made a scuff on my scorecard (I wish I had a scanner here so I could show you!), clanged off the back fence, and into the hand of my friend Jim McArdle (plug coming: check out his new book "Living The Dream"), who promptly whipped it back on the field. (Wish we had a throwback ball with us.)

That was the highlight of an otherwise dreary 8-4 Cubs loss to the Angels. Sean Marshall wasn't sharp from the first batter, Chone Figgins, who reached on a wild pitch after a dropped third strike. Marshall then walked Howie Kendrick, but later got out of the inning and threw better until the fourth, when he faced nine batters, eight of whom reached base, seven of those on hits. All of the hits were hit hard, too.

Now, any pitcher is entitled to a bad outing, and Marshall has been so good this spring that I'm willing to write this one off, especially since I think the Angels are the best team in the American League (they've been playing like it all spring, too, with a major-league-best 24-6 record so far). After Marshall left, David Patton came in and gave up hits to the first two batters he faced, allowing two runs to score (charged to Marshall), but then settled down and retired the next five hitters he faced in order. In fact, the Cubs bullpen did a fine job today, throwing 5.2 innings, allowing four hits and striking out eight. Even Luis Vizcaino managed a scoreless inning with two K's, although he also walked two and let go a wild pitch.

Micah Hoffpauir smacked his sixth homer of the spring; he now has 26 RBI in 34 games, which puts him past Josh Hamilton for the major league spring training lead. Derrek Lee had three hits today, including two hard-hit doubles, raising his spring average to .314. Still worried about D-Lee? I'm not. Kosuke Fukudome singled in the first inning and then promptly got picked off -- not good. Then he tripled to deep center field in his third at-bat; that makes him 4-for-15 (.267) in four spring games, with two of the hits being for extra bases. Still too early to write him off, I think, but he'd better toss away the Ronny Cedeno Baseball Handbook he's apparently been using the last couple of days.

The elusive Kevin Gregg at last made another appearance in a major league spring game after a week's "sabbatical", and showed no sign of rust: he struck out the side in his single inning of work. There is still no decision about the last two spots in the bullpen; I maintain that the best possible solution would be to find a taker for Chad Gaudin's contract. That way, Jeff Samardzija could be sent to Iowa and Angel Guzman and Patton would have the last two spots in the pen. Barring that, perhaps the Cubs can make a deal with the Rockies to keep Patton and send him to Iowa, because I think he has a good arm and would be a useful bullpen arm, if not now, then later.

Today's smallish crowd of 9,165 brought the season total to 195,172, breaking the spring training record of 193,993 the Cubs set in 2005. With one game to go the spring average is 10,843.

Before the game I got a tour of the press facilities at HoHoKam courtesy of Tim Sheridan, the PA announcer who maintains "Boys of Spring", a complete compendium of information about the Cubs' long tenure in Arizona (the Cubs' 31 consecutive seasons in Mesa is the longest active such streak in the Cactus League; the Giants' 29 straight years in Scottsdale is second). Tim began as the PA announcer in 1984 and has been in the booth there continuously since 1989. The facilities there are as good as most major-league parks for writers; there are also several private suites that are as nice as the skyboxes at Wrigley Field.

The face to match the voice!
Tim Sheridan, the voice of HoHoKam Park. Photo by Al

And yet, the Cubs still are looking to upgrade. Mostly, the Cubs are seeking a better facility for their minor leaguers than they have at Fitch Park. I'll have a lot more to say about the Cubs' future in Arizona in a post I'll have up after the spring season is over.

In the meantime, there are four more "practice" games to be held, two here in the Valley and two in New York City. Tomorrow, Carlos Zambrano makes his final spring training start against A's lefthander Dallas Braden.

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al, you've seen patton throw

if we’re up three heading into the seventh,

would you be comfy in the seventh with

patton
guzman
either
neither

by tim815 on Mar 31, 2009 7:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Either, I think.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 31, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT question...

Does anyone know when Comcast will have MLB Network HD for the Chicago area? Thanks!

Every time I see the name David Patton, I keep on thinking of David Kelton for some reason. Remember that guy? Yet another prospect that fizzled away.

by cubfanwill on Mar 31, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

MLB Network HD is supposed to be soon....

… I think they actually sent out a channel number sometime in the last couple weeks, but I can’t recall what it is. In any case, it should be soon, if not by Opening Day.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 31, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

regarding kelton and patton

one couldn’t hit a big league curve

the other may be approaching having one

by tim815 on Mar 31, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read

Channel 233. It ‘officially’ launches mid-May, but they begin broadcasting it tomorrow (April 1). I have no idea what the difference between the official launch and tomorrow is, but there it is.

by WittyUserName on Mar 31, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry I missed this, but what's with Gregg's "sabbatical"?

Did he leave camp or what? Is there something to this?

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Mar 31, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No, I was being sarcastic.

He hadn’t pitched in a major league game in a week, since last Tuesday. Couldn’t figure out why. Glad to see him back.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 31, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Angels as the best team in the AL?

What are the Yankees, Red Sox, and Rays, chopped liver? Anaheim is a flawed team that will desparately miss Teixiera

Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog

by berselius on Mar 31, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I think the Angels have the best offense in the AL.

Their pitching, that may be another story.

And yes, the Yankees, Red Sox and Rays are good teams, no question. All of them have flaws somewhere. So do the Cubs.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 31, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you head over to RLYW

Based on an averages of all of the major projection systems, the angels have the 7th best offense in the AL (behind NY, BOS, TB, CLE, DET, and BAL), and it is barely even the best in their (weak) division. Their pitching is the best in their division but not as good as the three-headed monster of the AL East. It’s too bad we can’t have a playoff of BOS, TB, NYY, and CLE, since they are easily the best 4 teams in the AL

l link

Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog

by berselius on Mar 31, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Angels' weak division...

…is why I wasn’t surprised at all when they went out in the first round despite having won 100 games. IMO, 97 wins in the AL East, is by far more impressive than 100 wins in the AL West.

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on Mar 31, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're probably good enough to win the division

but the Angels really don’t impress me. The OF of Abreu, Hunter, and Vlad is solid, but getting more than a bit long in the tooth.

John Lackey’s injury concerns seem somewhat serious and Joe Saunders is nothing more than a mid-to-back-end roto type who had some serious luck for a spell last year. If Weaver and Lackey make 25 healthy, effective starts each, the rotation should be pretty good. I don’t see that happening though.

Fuentes is a big question mark at the end of the pen. The infield is very unimpressive. Chone Figgins SLG’d .318 last year (OPS+ of 82). That’s .318. Yikes. Mike Napoli raked in limited play last year and Howie Kendrick still has upside, though he has yet to prove he can stay anywhere close to healthy.

They should win a weak AL West, but let us not count out Beane’s troop. The A’s should be much improved.

http://thegettinplace.blogspot.com/

by TheTruth11 on Mar 31, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Fuentes "a big question mark at the end of the pen"?

30 saves and an ERA below 3 isn’t to shappy.

"I always tell the truth -- Even when I lie"

by calicubfan on Mar 31, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuentes has had some injury troubles this spring

Not to mention the fact that he was demoted from the closer role in Colorado in 2007 before reclaiming it last summer

Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog

by berselius on Mar 31, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

What he said.

http://thegettinplace.blogspot.com/

by TheTruth11 on Mar 31, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is interesting how things change (this is from an Angel fan).

Going into ST, our worries focused on an offense that had been generally anemic over the last few years.
Now, the offense seems to be jelling, while the pitching is questionable. (NOTE: Yes, it was my post on Halo Haven, but the comment by Zu Long links to some impressive ST offensive numbers). Life is like a box of chocolates…

One way or the other, best of luck to the Cubs in 2009. I hope the Angels meet you in the 2009 World Series.

by sothball on Mar 31, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ST stats are worthless

as far as I am concerned. Aside from sample size issues, it’s a completely different ballgame as far as how the players (pitchers especially) play the game.

Some people have 3 layers, like pie. Blog Blog Blog

by berselius on Mar 31, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree on the overall "value" of ST stats.

As my dad would say, “Spring training stats aren’t worth a bucket of warm spit”. Never wanted to test the premise…

However, the spring success may (though not necessarily) provide a harbinger of regular season achievement. I have traveled to Phoenix the last 7-8 Springs, and I have not seen the Angels hit the ball as they have this year….nothing less than remarkable.
But hell, I don’t know if this will hold for the regular season. They may end up again as a good pitching/mild hitting club.
Regardless (again), best of luck to the Cubs in 2009.

by sothball on Apr 1, 2009 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there are those reports

of velocity problems, which also seem to not so coincidentally link with his 9.53 Spring ERA. Plus he’s had his issues in the closer role before. I’m not saying he hasn’t been a solid pen arm at times, but as far as the ninth is concerned, he has lost the job before.

http://thegettinplace.blogspot.com/

by TheTruth11 on Mar 31, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They may be flawed

But the Angles can beat any team in the central or east most of the time and in any playoff format. Mike Scioscia is a different cat.

by Employee22 on Mar 31, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What scares me

is that I remember when the Cubs trained in Scottsdale.

by Josh77 on Mar 31, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So do I.

They did so until 1978.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 31, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also remember

when the Cubs AAA team was in Wichita, which makes sense since that was until 1980, two years after the move to Mesa. But the Cubs don’t change these things very often.

by Josh77 on Mar 31, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Wichita isn't Triple-A any more.

Their team is now in the Double-A Texas League. (Don’t ask me why a team in Kansas is in the Texas League.)

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 1, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wichita is my home town...

Dump the AA crap and bring the Cubs back!

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Apr 1, 2009 2:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wichita Team Moved

The Wichita Wranglers, the AA affiliate of the Royals, moved to Springdale, Arkansas, before the 2008 season. They are now known as the Northwest Arkansas Naturals in the Texas League.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Apr 1, 2009 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Witcita team name

Josh77 and Al probably remember: the Arrows.

by thermal54 on Apr 1, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...

… it was the Aeros, to honor the aviation industry in the Wichita area.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 1, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right again. I knew there was something wrong with my spelling. And, it’s “W-I-C-H-T-A.”

Boeing makes a lot of their fuselages in Witchita. Cessna, Beech, and Airbus are there, too.

by thermal54 on Apr 1, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope I never have to spell that Kansas town in a spelling bee.

by thermal54 on Apr 1, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wichita Wingnuts

I do see that Wichita has a team called the Wingnuts in the independent American Association. That’s not to be confused with the AAA American Association that disbanded after the 1997 season.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Apr 1, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wichita Aeros=Buffalo Bisons

The Aeros moved to Buffalo and became the Bisons in the International League before the 1985 season. I remember the Wichita Aeros as the AAA affiliate of the Expos in 1982 and 1983, when the Memphis Chicks were Montreal’s AA affiliate in the Southern League.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Apr 1, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoever

Is responsible for our baserunning should be fired!!! Our baserunning is horrible again this year. We can’t keep beating ourselves with little league fundamental mistakes.

I didn't get the players I wanted in the offseason!! Hopefully I get what I want in the Regular Season---The World Series Trophy!! Go Cubbies!!

by cubsluver22 on Mar 31, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

is there a team stat

for ‘most times picked off’?

we’d be top 3 in it prolly

by tim815 on Mar 31, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fukudome in the 1st

He actually got back on the base, then slipped off. Between one foot popping off of 1st and the other landing on, he got tagged.

by dmlichte on Mar 31, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that still a base running error?

Over sliding the base isn’t a good thing.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Mar 31, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, the Dome pickoff appeared to be a freak accident.

He was back on the bag in plenty of time. His cleats just slipped off the bag. Maybe it was a new base or something.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 1, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jessica napping in the 4th inning...

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Mar 31, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

....LOL.....

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Mar 31, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...surely there must be a story there...

Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team

by carmen_fanzone on Mar 31, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No story other than a nap.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 31, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Backstory

After the game in Surprise yesterday, Jessica and I went to visit a mutual friend and we were up past midnight, which is 3AM NY time. I just keep her out too late, that’s all (I could’ve used a nap this afternoon myself).

by azjazzman on Mar 31, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was NOT napping

I was laying down with my head covered with a newspaper. It was REALLY hot in the direct sun and I was taking a breather. Had I been sitting up I most likely would have gotten the damn ball as it just rolled right where I was. Jim should not have thrown it back. Please tell me MLB Network did not show someone with a newspaper over their head.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 1, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

After all that time I spent with McArdle last year showing him the ballhawk ropes for his book...

…this is how he repays me – by throwing back the REAL ball??? ;-)

Al – you get a pass because everyone knows about your passion for scorecards. I’d treasure that scuff if I were you – truly a red badge of courage. Can’t wait to see the scan.

And Jessica? Taking a nap – really? Well, I was going to make some remark about how you should be in the doggie-house for this, but then I realized that would be cruel pun-ishment. So instead, we’ll go with the ol’ standby, -1000 BCB points.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 31, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I do treasure that scuff.

If I had brought my glove, I’d have caught the ball.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 31, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patton and Marshall

Seems like we got a league of generals here..

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 31, 2009 9:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

we do have a lot of historical names

David Patton – General Patton (WWII)
Sean Marshall – General George C. Marshall (WWII)
Theodore Roosevelt Lilly – obviously
Derrek Lee – stretch with Robert E. Lee (Civil War)
Aaron Miles – General Nelson A. Miles (Civil War)
Milton Bradley – General Omar Bradley (WWII)
Koyie Hill – General AP Hill (Civil War)
Kevin Gregg – General John Gregg (Civil War)
Jeff Stevens – General Isaac Stevens (Civil War)

Moral of the story: I officially have waay too much time on my hands

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Mar 31, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure you could find a few Fukudome's

who fought in WWII as well, for the other guys.

Not that I’m encouraging this tomfoolery.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Mar 31, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, no WWII Japanese Generals named Fukudome

closest is a Major General Banzo Fukutomi

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Mar 31, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fernando De Soto

http://www.sonofthesouth.net/revolutionary-war/explorers/fernando-de-soto.htm

does that count?

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 31, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure why not

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Apr 1, 2009 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't forget about Bradley

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Mar 31, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this was discussed in a FanPost but...

anyone know who’s pitching after Harden Sat.?

Bleeding Cubbie Blue since 1985.

by Bricks and Ivy on Mar 31, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Monday: Zambrano
Tuesday: Dempster
Wednesday: Lilly
Friday: Harden
Saturday: Zambrano
Sunday: Dempster
Mon 4/13 (home opener): Lilly

That’s as far as I’ve gotten.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 1, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs can't and won't keep both Patton and Guzman

This was discussed before, but there is no chance in my view that the Cubs keep both Patton and Guzman. This aint’ Pittsburgh Dorothy and we don’t have the luxury of squirreling away a couple developmental projects in that bullpen. If the Cubs want to keep Patton then Hendry needs to engineer a trade with Colorado so the young man can be shipped to High A or Double A where he belongs at this stage of development.

by BLou on Mar 31, 2009 9:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You've made your point about Pittsburgh

about six times now. Why don’t you try coming up with a different argument? Because it’s clear you aren’t going to change anyone’s mind by repeating the same line over and over again.

by Josh77 on Mar 31, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 1, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 1, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good as place as any to bring it up

Throwing the ball back is such a stupid hillbilly tradition.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Mar 31, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And even more ridiculous...

… when it’s not even the ball that gets tossed back on the field.

"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009

by DrCrawdad on Mar 31, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right... what's worse

Keeping an “enemy” ball and being a traitor or substituting another ball and keeping the enemy ball and lying about it.

I’d prefer the traitor to the false patriot any day.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Mar 31, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably so he can bait people into defending it

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 31, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is no defense

Just the statement that “it’s always been done”

That’s not a reason. That’s inertia.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Mar 31, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

see baiting.

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Mar 31, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd really rather not see Worf baiting

"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion

by DTJchris on Mar 31, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

twss

"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 1, 2009 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Ignore the troll

by dr stabbingworth on Apr 1, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but, but, but...

…he mocks us…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 1, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyway,

I think Guzman needs to be packaged in a deal, quickly, since he’s out of options. Patton needs to go north, he’s looked darn good. Guzman may never amount to anything, unless he’s the Juan Cruz of 2012.

(It took what — 6 to 7 years for Cruz to finally become a set-up man?)

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Mar 31, 2009 10:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Question

Does anyone know if this is Pittsburgh?

by redward on Mar 31, 2009 11:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm, if we keep two certain pitchers...

A certain often-banned Cubs fan will state that it is.

What’s bugging me is that people think that we don’t have the ability to test out arms of prospects because we’re in trouble. Incorrect, right now, we’re in the driver’s seat in the central. Anyone who believes otherwise has already jumped off the edge, and there’s no coming back from that idiotic plunge.

I think that the start of a major league season would be the perfect time for us to test out 2 pitchers who MAY or MAY NOT be better than other relievers we have. In fact, I’d rather test out all of our pitchers now, because in 2 months when someone gets injured, we aren’t gonna know who to call up. I’d also rather have us KNOW a player is good and pray that he turns out like David Price when we put him in a postseason game he has no business being in.

So, in closing, everyone who thinks that Patton and Guzman are bad ideas and we will fail if we have them on our team, riddle me this.
Name me one team that has 0 questions in their bullpen. Couldn’t come up with an answer??? It’s because there are none and you are ledge jumpers.

Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field? - Jim Bouton

by Beaushek on Apr 1, 2009 2:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"in the driver's seat"

The Cards are going to be a good team this year, and the Mets, Braves, and Phillies should all be fighting for the wild card.

I agree though, the Cubs could stand to test out a couple arms in the bullpen. Teams will be dumping over-paid relievers later this year anyway.

by dr stabbingworth on Apr 1, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's remember, too...

… that the Cubs gave Carmen Pignatiello a spot on last year’s opening day roster. He pitched in only two games — badly — and was sent back down quickly.

Now, with Patton & Guzman they don’t have that choice, as Patton would have to be waived or traded or returned to the Rockies, and Guzman is out of options. But I do know if they make the team and don’t perform, Lou will find someone else who will.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 1, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you think the rockies would just take guzman?

yeah, i don’t think so either.

There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help......"--Bill Buckner

by laidbackliam on Apr 1, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, they might.

Guzman has a good arm. Teams like that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 1, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good comparison.

At least the Cubs learned the truth about Piggy sooner rather than later.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 1, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks more like Scranton.

Damnit, I think we missed a turn.

"That little kid at second base - he is after a job, isn't he?" ~ Lou Piniella, 3/9/09

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 1, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

The Cards will be the toughest team in the NL Central. I would not be surprised if they stay in the hunt all year. It will take very bit of 95 wins to take the division.

"It's a funny old world. Man's lucky if he gets out of it alive." W.C. Fields

by KedzieKid on Apr 1, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don’t hurry back home, Al. The weather here still sucks big time. If it’s not snowing or raining, it’s 35F and windy.

by thermal54 on Apr 1, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

Thanks for the warning. I’m actually staying in AZ till 4/9 to get some more nice weather.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 1, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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