WBC shocker # 2 -Australia creams Mexico
17-7 . Mexico was filled with Major League players and the only player I know from Australia in the MLB is Justin Huber but I don't know if his spot with Padres is secure. Mexico is certainly not the powerhouse that the Dominican Republic, Cuba and Venezuela are supposed to be but I have to think this is going down as a huge upset. Going to be a bad day in Mexico because this was supposed to be the BIG game there opening a new stadium.
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Wow, that is a shocker.
I turned that game off early when it was 6-4 Mexico, figuring it was over.
This WBC is turning out to be quite interesting.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
It's turning out to be......
…..a hell of a lot more interesting than Women’s College Basketball anyway. Plus, I find it much easier to nap during the WBC too.
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Korea also beat Japan 1-0
That was a HUGE stunner for me just because Korea held Japan to no runs. But I guess it’s all better for the US so it’s fine with me.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 9, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Fukudome had one of Japan's six hits, all singles.
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What a thing of beauty
it was to watch!
I was so proud of our lads today, and although many see this series as kind of frivilous, its a big deal for a country where the game is played at only at a very very amatuer like level.
Credit is due for such a huge win over the Mexicans who had so many established major league players.
The Aussie spirit was there in spades today, well done boys.
"Drink,Drugs and shagging models...the rest I wasted." George Best on where his millions went
So, Aussie Cub
Do you think this will cause a growth in baseball in Australia?
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
Id like to say yes....
but honestly i can’t see it.
Nearly 20 years ago we had a professional league played in our summer with single-A prospects and the like getting some extra practice in a league full of young MLB hopefuls,but eventually it died a financial death.
We have some FOX and ESPN games weekly during the season, and although there is some interest, the sporting market in Oz is already crowded, with Aussie Rules, Rugby League,Rugby Union,Cricket and Soccer dominating the scene.
When guys like Lloyd and Nilsson were legit big leaguers it raised my interest, so hopefully some other youngsters will pay attention to what a great game it is.
"Drink,Drugs and shagging models...the rest I wasted." George Best on where his millions went
Congrats to your guys!
I happened to turn on MLB Network last night just in time to see the Aussie’s sixth inning rally. Gutsy stuff – none of the hitters were trying to do too much. Just lacing singles and running aggresively. The Mexican pitcher was throwing some chin music, too. I haven’t gotten too many opportunities to watch the WBC yet, but this was definitely exciting stuff that makes me want to try a little harder.
My sig line is out for jury duty.
Australia
Baseball is growing over there. I have two internet friends over there and their boys play baseball and it’s growing in popularity. In my friend’s generation it was basically that weird american sport kind of like cricket.
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WBC
has been much better the second time around IMO
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
So far, yes.
Upsets and exciting games. Let’s hope at least the latter continues for the rest of the tournament.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
And a three run homer by a "blind catcher"
Sorry people you know I just can’t help myself as I see much of baseball as “six degrees of Greg Maddux”
so here again is a link to one of the great Maddux articles of all time in honor ( or just using the excuse) of the Ben Risinger who played first last night and hit a 3 run dinger to put the game away.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3336514&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
with the rosters we are putting together on the other topic
could you imagine the rosters of the countries 15 or 20 or maybe even 25 years ago?
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
I was surprised to see...
… that there were almost as many major leaguers on the DR roster as on the USA roster.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
what would the teams look like
if the WBC was playing in 1998 or 1988
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Baseball-reference has biographical info
that you can sort by date. So I present to you:
The 1984 World Baseball Classic!
The US team would just look like the All-Star game.
The Dominicans would be mostly major leaugers: guys like Pedro Guerrero, Alfredo Griffin, Cesar Cedeno, Mario Soto, Joaquin Andujar, etc. They wouldn’t be as strong as they are today, but they’d be good. Lots of “good-glove/no-hit” people.
Puerto Rico would probably be stronger back then than they are today. An outfield of Jose Cruz, Sixto Lezcano, Danny Tartabull and Juan Beniquez. Jose Oquendo, Ivan DeJesus and Tony Bernazard up the middle. Carmelo Martinez at first base. Pitching would be more of a problem although they’d have AL MVP Willie Hernandez closing games for them.
If you were an expert in NPB, you could probably put together a team for Team Japan, or you could just track down one of those post-season All-star tours of Japan and see who played. But there weren’t any Japanese in the majors then.
Don’t even ask about Korea. Taiwan would probably be better off sending one of their Little League teams.
Venezuela would have some recognizable names like Tony Armas, Davey Concepcion, Bo Diaz, Luis Salazar and Manny Trillo, but it would have a lot more marginal talents like Gus Polidor, too. Their pitching would be a mess, too. After Luis Leal, they’d be in trouble. Heck, they’d be in trouble with Luis Leal.
Mexico would have a strong pitching staff with Fernando Valenzuela, Teddy Higuera (a top prospect), Salome Barojas and Sid Monge closing games out of the pen. Offensively they’d be more challenged with Jorge Orta, Alex Trevino, and crap.
Panama would have Rod Carew, of course. Toss in Ben Oglivie, Omar Moreno. Rennie Stennet had retired, but was still young enough to play. Juan Berenguer would have a very, very tired arm on the mound.
Canada would be Terry Puhl, Doug Frobel, Fergie Jenkins (just retired),Kirk McCaskill (still in the minors but a top prospect) and whatever ringers or guys out of retirement they could get.
Cuba could still put together a team with old veterans like Tony Perez and Bert Campanaris, combined with young players who had fled Cuba as children like the Cansecos and Rafael Palmeiro. Toss in Barbaro Garbey, who came over in the Mariel Boat Lift in 1980 and you could maybe field a team. This assumes that Reagan and Castro wouldn’t agree to let the regular Cuban National Team compete.
Italy would still have the same ringers. Maybe they’d get Lenny Randle, who was playing professionally in Italy around about then. Bert Blyleven would be very lonely on the Dutch team.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 9, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dutch 1984 team.
How could you forget Win Remmerswaal?
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by Al Yellon on Mar 9, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
just for the last name alone
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
you have MLB talent playing for Cubs
but that would not happen, Cuba was not interested in those who fled playing for thier team, so those you named above would be without a country during the WBC
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Cubs = Cuba
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
This assumes
that the Cuban team would be picked by the Cuban Government, which of course would not permit US based players to play. But Cuba boycotted the 1984 Summer Olympics and as I said, it seems unlikely that Reagan and Castro would come to an agreement to allow the Cuban National Team to play. So this scenario envisions something like what the right-wing Cuban exile community proposed in 2006—that a “Free Cuba” team be picked from among those living in the US.
I kind of thought that was clear.
Nice post...
A fun subject, perfect for a rainy afternoon’s daydream. I guess that the Dutch greats Robert Eenhoorn and Rikkert Faneyte were both a little too young to have made that 1984 team.
My only question is whether, in Holland, they’re calling this event something like the “WHC” for World Honkbal Classic?
"Some people will look at a glass of water and say it's half-empty, while another guy will look at it and say it's half-full. A Cubs fan looks at the same glass and asks, "When's it gonna spill?" - Mike Royko
by LaddieRenfroe on Mar 10, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Too bad
Ed Porray wasn’t alive for this. He’d have the best team to play for based on his place of birth; “Atlantic Ocean.” He’d be sure to start for the Fighting Atlanteans.
They'd have a fun manager, if not a competitive team...

Or would Hopper manage their arch-rivals, the team consisting of players born at sea on the Pacific Ocean?
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by LaddieRenfroe on Mar 10, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions

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