Sort of OT-John Seibels A-Rod Conspiracy Theory
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 9, 2009 4:16 PM CDT
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PrintI was listening to ESPN radio last night, as I do every night, and John Seibel put out a conspiracy theory on A-Rods injury. He pointed out that A-Rod will miss 6-9 weeks. An average major league baseball team plays 6 games a week. 6*9=54. The punishment for a first offense of steroids is 50 games. He thinks that major league baseball asked him to fake it so they don't get crap from fans for suspending A-Rod. I think this is possible, but doubtful, due to the fact that he probably would've faked it after the WBC, so he could play in it, but that's just me. What's your opinion on this?
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I’ve heard the Michael Jordan got banned from basketball for betting, and that’s why he retired. But how would he be able to come back later?
"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti
by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 9, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
If you believe this...
… and I don’t, you could see the “retirement” as a suspension, not a ban.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
the Jordan one I have some insight on
and he was on a two year suspension, and asked to return early due to loses in revenue from the sponsors pulling out of the NBA.
If ARod was suspended for 50 games and this is how they played it out, ST does not count towards your suspension.
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
You forgot
the black helicopters, Hue Hollins, Osama bin Laden and Col. Sanders.
They all fit in somehow.
Your insight would be better if the bottom of a beer bottle wasn’t clouding it.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
my insight comes from Wilson Sporting Goods
and their reasoning behind NOT making a Jordan baseball glove while he was playing AA ball. I happened to work there and asked more than one person regarding it.
next time ask instead of assume
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Yes, of course...
A sporting goods company would choose NOT to make money over honoring the dictum of a commissioner.
So now Wilson Sporting Goods is part of the conspiracy! I think Nixon’s clone fits in too!
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Hmmm.
Ever think the company might have been told not to do something, and had to do so to honor a contract they had with a league?
You are operating with incomplete information. In this case I’d tend to believe the person who actually worked for the company.
And based on the original post, it’s not a “store” he worked for, it’s Wilson Sporting Goods. You know, the actual manufacturer.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
No, I don't...
Nike had Jordan baseball stuff all over and they are FAR more connected with the NBA.
Unless Cubbie-Tim has the CEO of Wilson in his Fave Five, I’m going to assume he talked to, at best, a middle manager.
Jordan’s father had just been murdered. He had played basketball for almost two years straight because of the Olympics. His head was nowhere.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
Unless...
… you were in Michael Jordan’s head, you don’t know the definitive answer to this, either.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
agreed
but the only questions it poses to me to this date still, is why would Wilson not make a glove with MJ when they had a contract with him, and lose out on how much additional revenue from sales?
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
success in baseball
would not have stopped the sales of a baseball glove with his name on it
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Then they would have made it anyway.
It is nonsense to think a sporting goods manufacturer holds secrets the rest of America isn’t privy to.
Free Ronny Cedeno
maybe, maybe not
we do not know any contractual stipulations, and MJ may have not approved of one due to a suspension, who knows for sure……..none of us posting here that is all i know.
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
And no one in the media
has ever uncovered it. Apparently, janitors at Wilson knew about it, but no one sold the story for $100k to some newspaper.
Nothing to see here folks, move on.
MJ approved Nike’s stuff. the NBA didn’t stop Nike.
Moreover, Jordan NEVER stopped gambling. He gambled during his baseball days. He gambled when he came back. He gambles now.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
I have never seen anyone
so persistant in wanting to argue every point of anything I ever post. I could post that the sky is blue, and you would find a way to argue it.
and it is not just me, you do it to others Worf.
All i did was post what I was told, and NO i was not a janitor. And what does Nike shoes, and clothing have to do with Wilson basebal gloves? Ahh NOTHING!. They are apples and oranges.
The ONLY reason I see some truth in what I was told, is because I was told of his return aprox 60 days prior to the date of his return, otherwise I would be with you calling b.s. on this. You will never believe me, and that is just fine, I really do not care what you think anymore Worf, since it is always an objective response to everything posted (or so it seems)..
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Well if you'd stop posting nonsense
Then I wouldn’t disagree with you. Sounds like a you problem.
Nike is VERY relevant because of the assertion that David Stern muscled Wilson around because of a contract. The fact is, Nike is much more intertwined with the NBA and had much more to lose by angering Stern. Yet they cheerfully put out product.
And I hate to break it to you, but the notion that Jordan would return was not a Wilson Sporting Goods coffee room secret. The baseball lockout meant minor leaguers were going to be called up as scabs and Jordan wasn’t going to do that.
It was just a case of when.
There is no such thing as an ugly female breast
I am sure that you one day will learn to understand
what I say, instead of making your own opinions based off what I am not stating to be fact.
I have said time and time again this is what I was told, not once stating it to be 100% fact, and that there were things that pointed to possible truth.
and I am sure that IF this was fact, more than jsut Wilson knew, and NBA would have the power to shut them up at that time, and with any secret, people do talk, and eventually it gets out. To most any rumor, there is a hint of truth.
Now go ahead and reqrite this again, to how you wish to misuse my post.
Do you really wake up each morning with piss in your cereal, and look for ways to irritate others?
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
forgive me
for stating what I was told as part of a conversation in regards to the topic at hand.
but i guess you should consider not speculating that i am right or wrong since that is the exact same (your opinion is no different, no better and no worse than my stating what I was informed and what has helped me to make a personal opinion of the topic).
WTF is wrong with some people, causing them to believe that their opinions are the only ones that matter
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
wat?
I have no idea what your response means so I’ll spell it out. Worf is a troll. You keep replying to him. Stop replying to him.
by dr stabbingworth on Mar 11, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought you were
joiing Worf against me, my bad. forgive me.
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
No
I appreciate your contributions.
by dr stabbingworth on Mar 11, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
i never said it was written in stone as 100% given
but it does make sense.
Worf, if I may ask, do you wake up each morning and someone has pissed on your cereal, so you come here in a vile mood looking for the cereal pisser, and in the process act like a jack ass to people, instead of showing any respect in conversation? Just curious
and i have Sprint, no fave five, sorry to burst your bubble again
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
by Cubbie-Tim on Mar 10, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
mid 90's how many Nike baseball items were there?
Wilson had a contract with Jordan as well at that time
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
to nitpick..
I would counter that Nike is/was FAR more connected with Jordan than the NBA specifically. They even have an entire sub-division based solely on the jumpman brand and sign guys specifically for that.
Geez...
For something that would have absolutely shook the Sports world and made who ever broke the story an incredibly rich person, this is just impossible to believe. Something this classified gets repeatedly leaked down to the employee level? If it was true then middle managers wouldn’t even know.
Free Ronny Cedeno
as i have said
i am not saying it is correct, this is just what i was told.
the only reason i believe there is a shred of truth to it, was the fact that two months before he was back, I was told which date he was returning, and that was prior to the “retirement” being ended and MJ returning to practice.
crazier things have happened, so who knows.
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Wilson is not a sporting goods store
they make equipment, like baseball gloves
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
Far Fetched...
But I could see a sleaze like Bud do this. However your point about it being after the WBC would make Bud’s WBC look bad because the “best player in baseball” is not out for 6 to 9 weeks after playing in the tournament. People would speculate if the WBC caused the injury.
Boy, I wish Richard Hofstadter had written
“The Paranoid Style in American Sports Reporting.”
More and more of this kind of nutty stuff is creeping into the media, both in sports and elsewhere.
Well my theory is that
It is NOT a cyst at all but a HICKIE from Madonna which is why it is all so mysterious. However it may take a lot more than 6-9 weeks to recover from the surgery , that woman has POWERFUL lips.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
I guess we'll just have to see how many games he misses
do to his injury. If its 50, that might make it a little more suspect.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
but it would need to be 50 regular season games
ST games do not count in a suspension
"I like coconuts, you can break them open and they smell like ladies lying in the sun" Widespread Panic
You're not buying this crap, are you?
If Selig wanted to suspend him, he’d suspend him. An arbitrator would overturn it, but the press would lionize him for “taking a stand”
Selig gets nothing but crap for not suspending him. Why would he “secretly suspend” him, which would baseball his gate attraction without Selig getting any credit for getting tough on steroids. On top of that, why would ARod go along with this? Why in the world would he agree to a “secret suspension”? With a real suspension, he’d have a union fighting for him and even if suspended, he’d get the good will of having done his time for the crime. Under this scenario, ARod gets nothing.
If he misses 50 games, it’s because of something called “coincidence.”
by Josh Timmers on Mar 9, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, I do enjoy a good conspiracy theory
but never usually believe them. I just its fun to fuel the paranoid mind.
"Prince Fielder Dies Of Inside-The-Park Homerun" - The Onion
Because this way he gets to "serve" a "suspension"...
… which would be for testing positive within the last year.
Which he said he didn’t do. People already are looking at his explanation with a jaundiced eye, thinking he’s not telling the whole truth.
A suspension would pretty much destroy his reputation for good.
I’m not saying I totally buy the “secret suspension” theory, but it IS plausible.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
But if they're "suspending" him
what would be the point? He’s still getting paid and his “reputation,” such as it is, would remain intact. If Bud Selig wanted to sweep a positive drug test under the rug, he wouldn’t have to concoct some sort of silly injury. He’d just sweep it under the rug. A secret suspension wouldn’t exactly be teaching ARod a lesson, unless Bud thinks the lesson Rodriguez needs to learn is that he’s bigger than the game and too important to suspend.
On top of that, who would have to be in on it? For one, his surgeon, Dr. Marc Philippon, would have to lie and say he performed a surgery he didn’t. Phiippon is a leading orthopedic surgeon who, at least according to his clinic’s website, has operated on Greg Norman, Peter Jacobsen, Mario Lemieux, Priest Holmes and Luis Castillo. Why in the world would he jeopardize his career and reputation to participate in a sham? I’m sure he’s already rich. Does Bud Selig know about that hooker in Reno he killed?
I know you aren’t buying this, but it doesn’t make sense on any level. If it were a movie plot, no one would buy it.
The conspiracy theory that the Cubs are intentionally throwing playoff series because Bud Selig has decided that the “Billy Goat Curse” is good for baseball is more believable.
by Josh Timmers on Mar 10, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Your point is taken.
As I said, I wasn’t saying I was buying it, just playing devils advocate.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
rec'd
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Yeah, and where does Don Fehr fit into this equation?
Was he on vacation when the “suspension” was agreed to?
wasnt his idea
I heard this and i belive he said it was more of Jay Reynolds (espn radio sportscenter update guy) who brought up the idea during a meeting.
Reminds me of "Broadcast News"
when Holly Hunter’s character says, “Another thing I can’t stand is when White House reporters bullshit with each other after a briefing and then one of them has a theory and the other quotes it in his story as ‘White House sources say’…”
This seems like baseless conjecture and speculation to me.
(But I love that movie, though.)
"I've got an idea...an idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about." ~Peter Griffin
by Goodie1969 on Mar 9, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL...
that sounds about right. I’ve never seen the movie but yur thoughts is probably spot on.
by RMRZisMYmanCRUSH on Mar 9, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't believe the hype
Life is a crazy game of poker
Really?
n/t
"I don't know, I think the Bears should just defer so they don't have to put their offense out there to start" -Tony Kornhesier
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