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Cubs Minor League Wrap -- April 10

We're two days in to the minor league season this year and after today, every Cub affiliate's record stands at 1-1.

Here's my first attempt to post these things directly to the front page.  You can apparently do a lot of cool things when Al gives you the power (mwah, ha, ha), but for right now, I'm going to concentrate on not messing everything up.  Hopefully, I'll be able to integrate the cool stuff into the minor league wraps later.

Oh, I changed my avatar to the logo for the Boise Hawks for now.  I was thinking the old baseball card of Mordecai Brown was a little confusing.

About 30 of you think it's worth your while to get MLW updates on Twitter.  If you follow me there, you'll get the big story about 45 minutes to an hour before they get posted on the front page.  I won't plug this again for a while, but if you want the headlines early, they are at http://twitter.com/Cubsminorswrap.

I love my one-year old daughter.  She brings books for me to read to her.  As I'm typing this, the book she wants me to read to her is Baseball Prospectus 2009. Good girl!  Just don't rip it.

And away we go!

Iowa Cubs


The Iowa Cubs derailed the Round Rock Express, 6-2.

The experiment to move Jose Ascanio into the rotation got off to a great start today as Ascanio threw four shutout innings,  He allowed only two singles, didn't walk a batter and struck out four.  Of course he didn't get the win because of the silly "must throw five innings" rule, so J.R. Mathes, who allowed two runs over two innings, was rewarded with the victory.

Jeff Stevens, Chad Fox and Kevin Hart each threw a scoreless inning of relief.

First baseman Jake Fox hit a two-run home run in the fifth inning.  Fox was 2 for 3 with a walk and four RBI.  Shortstop Andres Blanco was 2 for 4 with a double and an RBI. Catcher Chris Robinson was 2 for 3 with a run scored.

Nate Spears played third base tonight and went 2 for 5 with a run scored and an RBI.  I really like the Cubs giving Spears a chance at third base.  If he can handle the position, he really could be insurance in case of an injury to Ramirez.

Tennessee Smokies

Tony Thomas pounded out eleven total bases tonight as the Smokies snuffed out the Jacksonville Suns, 10-3.

Thomas was the story tonight as he picked up where he left off in the Florida State League playoffs last year, when he was MVP.  Thomas was 4 for 5 with two home runs and a double. Thomas scored four times and batted five in.

Shortstop Darwin Barney also homered.  He was 2 for 3 with two RBI.  First baseman Blake Lalli was 2 for 5 with a run scored.  Matt Camp was 2 for 4 with an RBI.

Hung-Wen Chen got the win today with a solid start.  He pitched 5.1 innings and allowed only two runs on six hits and a walk.  He struck out five, which is really good for Chen, who normally doesn't strike out a lot of batters.

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Daytona Cubs

The Daytona Cubs edged the Brevard County Manatees, 7-6.

Marcos Mateo was pulled from the game after throwing two scoreless innings. He had allowed only one hit to that point and hadn't walked a batter.  He struck out one.  I have no idea why Mateo was pulled--I tried to listen to the game over the internet to get an explanation but couldn't get the feed to work.  So I don't know if this was planned or whether there was some kind of injury.  Hopefully, we'll know tomorrow, but an injury to Mateo would not be good.

Australian Ryan Searle then came into the game and threw three shutout innings of relief.  Unfortunately, manager Buddy Bailey sent him out for a fourth inning (which indicates to me the pulling of Mateo wasn't planned) and Searle got hit pretty hard.  So his overall line was pretty ugly:  3.1 innings pitched with five runs allowed.  Three of the runs were earned.  Searle didn't walk or strike out a batter.

Chicagoan David Cales threw the last 1.2 innings of the game and picked up the win.  Cales allowed one hit and struck out one Manatee.

Perhaps people will be saying soon that the Cubs were too conservative pushing shortstop Starlin Castro up only three levels.  Tonight Castro singled in his first two at bats before Brevard County finally got him out his third and final time up.  Actually, they'd gotten him out once earlier with a caught stealing.

First baseman Jovan Rosa hit two doubles in a 2 for 4 night.  Rosa scored once and knocked two in. Second baseman Nate Samson was 1 for 3 with a walk, a double and two RBI.  He negated a lot of that by getting caught stealing twice.

Peoria Chiefs

Last night the Chiefs were the only team to win.  Tonight they were the only team to lose as the Chiefs fell to the Kane County Cougars, 3-2,

Chris Carpenter wasn't as successful as his namesake for the Cardinal was, but he had a solid start nonetheless.  Carpenter threw five innings and allowed two runs on five hits.  Carpenter showed some nice control by striking out six and walking only one.

Chris Huseby got the loss in relief.  He gave up a run in and inning of relief.  Huseby allowed two hits, didn't walk anyone and struck out one.

DH Josh Harrison was 3 for 4 with a double and a run scored.

Because someone is going to ask, Josh Vitters got his first hit of the year in a 1 for 4 night.  It was an RBI single in the sixth inning.

 

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Nice recap...

Even if the Twitter thing is abbreviated, that’s the point. I just signed up for it and this was the first thing I chose to follow. Thanks Josh!

by Dayton Cubbie on Apr 11, 2009 1:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Chiefs Notes

As I’ve posted elsewhere, I went to tonight’s Chiefs game and took notes. There’s a short version of this over on Sickels’ blog, but here are my longer notes…

-As always, I had a ball at O’Brien Park. The atmosphere is great and very family-friendly. Considering that I paid $5 for a ticket and got seats two rows behind home plate, I really cannot complain about the accommodations. If you ever get the chance, I really encourage you to take the trip down to Peoria to catch a game.

-That out of the way, today’s game was not very friendly weather-wise. It was 50 degrees when I got to the park and the temperatures dipped down into the low 40s as the night went on. There was also a swirling wind that didn’t exactly help matters, either. The grass and warning track appeared to be slick from rain earlier in the day, as there were a few stumbles and slips in the outfield.

-Considering it’s early in the season and the weather was cold and windy, this was not the best of days to evaluate talent.

Anyways, onto my game notes…

-Chris Carpenter looked pretty good. The radar gun wasn’t working in the early going and I wasn’t in the mood to harass anyone in the stands about their readings, but when the gun got back up, Carpenter was working in the low 90s. He was regularly hitting 92/93 in the 5th inning, which was nice to see. His breaking pitch (I think slider?) had very nice late break on it and his change had some good action. His change had nice action and he used it periodically. He started hanging his secondary stuff in the 4th and 5th innings and the Cougars made him pay for it. However, he worked around it and made the most of what he had. I remember hearing he has trouble with command/control on occasion, but he looked pretty sharp tonight with some clean mechanics.

-What in the heck happened to Huseby? The guy was working in the 80s when he came out of the pen. Maybe the Cubs are trying to build up his arm strength for later in the season when he’ll be starting, but considering how much the Cubs forked over to sign him when they drafted him, this is not what I expected to see at this point in his career. He didn’t have any control problems, but that’s about the only good thing I can say about him.

-The 0 BBs for the Chiefs is noticeable, but in fairness to them, the Cougars’ pitchers were doing a solid job of working the strike zone tonight. Plus, they had plenty of hittable pitches for the Chiefs tonight.

-With Josh Vitters…there’s not a whole lot I can really say about him from tonight’s game. There was one ball hit his way the entire night and that particular ball was a tough play for any 3B (low and hard grounder to his left that got under him as he laid out for it). His ABs looked fine and his swing was pretty nice, but he didn’t do anything particularly noteworthy. The one thing I did like was that he made a conscious effort to use all fields, even if he only got one hit out of it.

-I see both sides of the argument with Ryan Flaherty sticking at SS. On the one hand, the guy looks kind of awkward at SS. On the other hand, he did a good job out there tonight defensively. He handled the routine plays and made some fairly nice plays tonight. I still don’t think he’ll stick at SS, but I understand why the Cubs want to see if he can stick there.

-Nelson Perez is the kind of talent that excites me and yet worries me. His double was a frozen rope down the opposite field line. He has a cannon of an arm that has fairly good accuracy. However, he had an AB where he saw a steady diet of breaking balls and looked completely lost against them as he flailed away. I can definitely see why his walk numbers last season were not so good.

-Junior Lake looked alright. His error was on a bad hop on a ball that froze him. Much like Perez, his double was a frozen rope down the opposite field line. He made some decent plays at 2B, although it was pretty clear that he still has some work to do in terms of getting comfortable with his position. He had a scary moment during the game when a shallow pop fly was hit out his way. He seemed to have waved off CF Tony Campana and made the catch, but for whatever reason, Campana dove head-first for the ball and took out Lake’s legs. Thankfully, both of them got back on their feet quickly afterward.

-Josh Harrison has the potential to be one of those mighty mite types of guys. Standing next to guys like Flaherty, Perez, and Lake (all 6’2 and over), he looked like a midget. However, Harrison did a very good job at the plate tonight, laying down a beautiful bunt single and splitting a gap. He also was a nuisance on the basepaths and seemed to have pretty good instincts out there.

by Outshined_One on Apr 11, 2009 1:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Excellent stuff, O_O

Hope you enjoyed yourself.

I know Carpenter threw a slider before, but I was under the impression that his main breaking pitch was a curveball now. For his collegiate career, his command/control was okay. He had some issues, but I took it as a short sample and wasn’t really concerned with it. I think, if his changeup has improved, and if he is more consistent with it, that will help limit his walk rate. His fast/curve combo isn’t that far behind the 1-2 punches of Cashner/Jackson. Carpenter gave up 2 of his hits to lefties, I think. O_O, could you tell/remember if he was more methodic (for lack of a better term) with lefties?

On Huseby – if his control is fine, that’s the first step. High 80’s velocity is something that is passable for now. Prior to his “mental” issues last year that AzPhil reported on, he was, IIRC, typically in the low 90’s. Now, I wasn’t there, and I’m just taking a guess, but I wonder if the weather was a factor, which could account for the velo difference.

I don’t think Flaherty will stick at short, but I had a discussion with someone last year who suggested that he might be able to be, basically, Theriot-level defensively That said, I still think he gets moved, sooner than later, which could accelerate his progression up the ladder (and with Vitters glove looking better, 2nd base still seems the most likely spot).

I’ll stay excited for Nelson … but I definitely understand your concern. That said, considering the system is so void of the big time power talent, I’m hoping he’ll get Ryan Harvey type rope. It’s quite telling, although not surprising, that the Cubs have him in RF over Kyler Burke, which says a lot about Perez’s arm.

I forgot who it was, but someone said Lake had more natural talent than Castro, particularly on the offensive side. He’s got some pop in that bat, though, and I’m very intrigued. I believe BA said his defensive issues was a matter of consistency, implying he had the talent to adjust.

What’s your perspective on Harrison’s speed? IIRC, Harrison was viewed as a good baseball player, good instincts, but average speed. He reminds me a tad of Mike Fontenot, as he’s got some pop in the bat. The biggest problem for Harrison? Finding AB time, as Lake/Flaherty/Vitters have the infield covered, with Campana in CF.

by toonsterwu on Apr 11, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

RE

Frankly, I wouldn’t be surprised if Carpenter was throwing a curve. The velocity and movement on his breaking pitch seemed to be more slider-like than curve-like, especially since he was getting some nice low and away action against RH hitters, but my angle was not particularly ideal to make that evaluation. As for how he approached lefties, it didn’t seem like he substantially changed his approach, although my memory may be fuzzy on that.

One thing I forgot to mention from the game was that Perez and Burke both had opportunities for plays at the plate. Both showcased very good arms. Perez got his in well enough that the runner held at third, although it was a touch off target. Burke’s throw had the distance and speed, but he missed his target and Flores had a lot of trouble trying to corral it. Both throws were quite impressive.

Harrison has above average speed. He wasn’t a burner, but he’s fast enough to be a threat on the base paths. The guy was pretty smart once he got on base, to boot. He knew how to pick his spots.

by Outshined_One on Apr 11, 2009 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good report and thanks

Your comments mesh with what I saw in Boise last year. At least for the players that were in Boise. I don’t think Flaherty is as bad at SS as some would have you believe, but I do agree he’s probably going to have to move.

As far as whether Carpenter throws a slider or a curve, I’ve long since believed that it’s kind of a silly distinction. While there is definitely a difference between a Barry Zito 12-6 curveball and a Steve Carlton hard slider, in the end, they’re all breaking balls and breaking balls are like dogs. There’s a difference between a hound and a terrier, but in the end they all have the same DNA and can mate with each other.

I don’t think this is better illustrated than by when Sports Illustrated took a poll of AL managers in 2000 and they voted Pedro Martinez as having the best slider in the AL. Martinez said “I’m flattered, but I don’t throw a slider.” There’s a range in the middle where they’re so similar that it really doesn’t matter what you call it, because even a group of experts can’t tell the difference.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 11, 2009 4:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

harrison

good baserunning instincts

i thought this was a cubs blog :)

by tim815 on Apr 11, 2009 5:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

My other thoughts on the three games

I wish they had gameday for all 4 levels. I was following AA/AAA all night, and it was sort of interesting. Of course, it’d be nice if they had the pitch f/x stuff for it. I’ll try to keep this brief, but no promises Archie. I just type as I go.

Oops – meant to say Harrison would have problems finding defensive time, not AB time.

Daytona -

Odd game. It was an excellent pitcher’s duel, with former top prospect Mark Rogers trying to work his way back and containing Daytona, but then the bullpens came in and the gates opened. The most exciting note of the night had to be Starlin Castro. At the very least, he’s not overmatched. Very enthused about the start, although being realistic on expectations.

Marwin Gonzalez got another start. Again, I’m not saying he will definitely breakout, but this kid has tools. He had a SB tonight. Now, he faces offensive and defensive questions – he started in LF tonight, which should be more of an indication on the Cubs trying to find a spot for him than anything on Nate Samson, who I do like. As for Samson, I do like him, and I had a conversation with someone last year who suggested Samson had a bit more pop in his bat. If that shows, he’ll raise his value a lot more (and become similar to, say, Nate Spears).

I was very pleased to see Jovan Rosa get going. I know I’m higher on him than most. Sweet stroke, good pop in the bat. Whether that current gap power translates to more real power will be the big offensive question, considering his future is likely at first.

Dylan Johnston sort of gets lost by the wayside. It’s not that I have expectations, but paying an occasional eye to him is still worth it, IMO. His ARL is fine. He hasn’t had a hit yet, but the two walks were a nice sight. Marquez Smith got the start at 3rd and went 1/3 with a double and a walk. Like Dylan, he’s worth paying some occasional attention to, although with Vitters behind him, if Vitters pans out, Marquez will be moved around again.

I’ll be curious on reports on Mateo’s changeup. He’ll need that to be more consistent to increase his K rate and challenge lefties. I’ll also be curious if there are reports on Searle. He’s an intriguing arm, particularly since he was productive last year, but the BA report (bad body/makeup) was one that stood out. It could be that he simply got tired and get tagged by a solid lineup, but it is interesting that he fell apart after the error.

Tennessee -

They are facing a solid Marlins AA squad, with top prospect Logan Morrison, and tonight, they faced an intriguing, solid arm in Sean West. Now, West has good stuff, but the consistency on the secondary outings isn’t there yet, and his mechanics still need work, so he can get tagged, as he did tonight. If there’s one Cub I have a personal desire to see succeed, it’s Hung-Wen Chen, and he had a solid outing tonight. He’s sort of a poor man’s Esmailin Caridad – if Hung-Wen could get some more juice on the fastball, then he’d hold some intrigue as an end of the rotation possibility. The Suns were able to work him early, though, so he only lasted 5.1. Not that I had any expectations on Vince Perkins, but he still hasn’t harnessed his abilities as he walked 3.

Thomas came alive, showing what he could do if he ever put it together. If he shows more discipline, he has the ability to be a truly solid player that offers some pop and speed. 4/5 with 2 homers and a double speaks for itself, so I’ll note things I liked. In the 3rd inning, he struck out, but, after he fell behind 0-2, he battled back and forced Sean West to throw 8 pitches, showing patience on two borderline pitches. That’s a good sign. In the 7th, he took 3 pitches from Chris Leroux before finding one he could handle. In the 8th, against Jay Buente, he fouled the first pitch off, took 2 balls, missed on a good pitch before fouling back another pitch in the same location, took a ball, and then took advantage of the 7th pitch for a double, a pitch that was located where he previously missed. Again, just gameday, but man, those are excellent signs for Tony Thomas’ bat.

Lalli went 2/5 tonight. I’m higher on Lalli than most, and in this case, ARL, while a concern, isn’t a big issue yet for me, as it’s only his 3rd year as a pro. I recognize that Lalli is a bit limited and isn’t likely to be a starter. But he just seems like a gamer that can find a role, and I really think his bat can play in the upper levels. If Castillo gets bumped to AAA at some point, don’t be surprised if he gets time behind the plate again. He’s not horrible, but he is below average.

It’s good to see Clevenger behind the plate. The BA ranking really piqued my curiosity, considering BA is largely based off organizational sources. The bats were alive today, but the fact that we only got 1 walk also caught my attention. Matt Camp’s solid day is nice, and his defensive versatility catches attention, but offensively, he’s in that “scrappy” mold as well.

Iowa -

Very intrigued with Ascanio’s start. I’ll be curious how his slider was. With that fast/change combo, a solid slider makes him an intriguing talent. That said, i’m still of the belief that this is aimed more at stretching him out and working his secondary offerings, akin to what they did with Kevin Hart last year. That said, after an early bump, he hit a solid rhythm.

Let’s see, what else caught my eye. Jeff Stevens worked himself into a jam with a HBP and a walk, then proceeded to strike out the top of the order. Bogusevic has some big league bench potential, and so does Manzella. Brad Snyder struck out twice again. To be honest, I’d rather see Doug Deeds or Jason Dubois in there, although Snyder offers defensive value. But I wasn’t a big fan of the two hit or miss OF additions this year in Snyder and Robnett. Fox had an excellent 2/3 day, but what I really liked was the walk in the 3rd, where there were some pitches right off the plate that he didn’t offer at. Spears was solid, but for him to force his way onto a 40 man and stick, he’ll need to show some pop with that bat, to go along with his defensive versatility. That said, I still think he could be Aaron Miles-ish right now (which was what bothered me about the Miles signing).

by toonsterwu on Apr 11, 2009 2:40 AM CDT reply actions  

There's no mention

of anything being wrong with Mateo in the Daytona Beach paper. There’s no mention of him at all. He’s probably fine.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 11, 2009 4:02 AM CDT reply actions  

It's good to see Tony Thomas has his bat again

I saw him play in the HWL this winter and wasn’t very impressed with him, but then again I was expecting the playoff Thomas, also it was tough for him to get regular time due to the other middle infielders that were there.

Derrick Rose-2009 ROTY Tyrus Thomas-2009 MIP...hope I'm at least half right

by CHCOWNTHECENTRAL on Apr 11, 2009 4:46 AM CDT reply actions  

He's streaky

I’m hoping that this is a sign of actual improvement and not one of his famous hot streaks.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 11, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'd get a real kick out of

in about 3 or four years,

seeing an infield/battery of

zambrano/marshall
hoffpauir
theriot
castro
vitters
soto/castillo

for a game, not necessarily as an everyday lineup.

at least our system is starting to produce. yeah, i’ll be interested in the june draft.

by tim815 on Apr 11, 2009 6:28 AM CDT reply actions  

It won't be that bad

I could see

Soto C
Ramirez 1b (yes…)
Fontenot 2b (I mean who knows?)
Barney SS (I ope he makes it just because of his name)
Vitters 3B

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Apr 11, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

the lineup i mentioned was

all homegrown.

we couldn’t do that before

if we would, it would ‘look like pittsburgh.’

by tim815 on Apr 11, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heck, I'm hoping for, in 2012

C Geovany Soto
1st Jovan Rosa
2nd Ryan Flaherty
SS Starlin Castro
3rd Josh Vitters

by toonsterwu on Apr 11, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

ok with me

you know more about it than i do.

but i thought we were trading flaherty, rosa, and jay jackson to get a closer.

or was vitters involved as well.

j/k

by tim815 on Apr 11, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about Ascaino

As the closer?

"Check the magic of a winning season and there are always reasons beyond the talent." Ned Colleti

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 11, 2009 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Been tried

He pitched well there early in the season last year, but after his demotion from Chicago, they returned him to the closer role at Iowa and he was bad.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 11, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

his future is likely in the pen

but closer? Probably not, although it’s not out of the question. First, we have a few arms that would be ranked higher than him. 2nd, he still has some secondary work. But I’ll be very surprised if this move to a starter is something that the Cubs are invested in as a permanent move. I still think it’s more likely that it is simply that they want him to work on his command/control of all his pitches. Of course, if he does so well to force them to change their mind, who knows, but that’s unlikely. I’m also under the impression that he had some personal stuff to deal with in 2008, but I don’t recall what it is at this moment in time (or maybe my memory is slipping me).

by toonsterwu on Apr 11, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very intrigued about today

We’ve got Caridad starting in AAA, Coleman in AA, I think McDaniel in High A, and Archer in Low A … all 4 are intriguing arms.

by toonsterwu on Apr 11, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

so far so good for the ones playing

Dan McDaniel has gotten off to a solid start, shutting Brevard through 3. I’m very, very supremely pleased that they gave McDaniel a rotation gig. I’d really love to see if we have a power arm here that can start, as he has the arsenal. Rosa/Marwin Gonzalez/Russ Canzler have gotten hits in Daytona so far, with Rosa getting the RBI.

Coleman got himself in trouble in the 3rd, giving up 1 run. He K’d the first guy, then back to back singles, another K, but then a walk. The next guy hit a single, which led to one run (although he got out of the inning when a runner was gunned down at home). Camp, Wright, Lalli, Adduci, Barney all have hits so far.

Peoria has just gotten underway. Archer got through the first with 2 K’s and 1 walk. Interestingly, Ryan Flaherty is playing 3rd, with Harrison at 2nd. Good for Harrison – he needs time to hone his defensive skills, rather than being the DH. Lake is at short.

Here’s hoping they keep it up.

by toonsterwu on Apr 11, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

crap

I hope Rosa didn’t get hurt. Marquez Smith is in at 3rd.

by toonsterwu on Apr 11, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man, that was as exciting as following a box score can get for

a minor league game. Daytona held off Brevard County, 4-0. One of my favorite Cubs prospects, Dan McDaniel, went 6 strong, getting 3 K’s, giving up 1 hit and 1 walk. Just an awesome start for the kid. Vento, Sasser, Muyco each pitched a shutout inning. McDaniel’s a solid power arm who throws a deep arsenal of 4 pitches. He was excellent as a closer last year, and he got jumped this year and they are working him as a starter. Here’s a kid who, if you really projected him out (as a starter), has at least 2/3 type potential (assuming he develops) if not better.

After a hiccup of an inning in the 3rd, Casey Coleman finished 5 innings of 1 run ball, getting 6 K’s, giving up 5 hits and a walk. Just another awesome start. A lot of people have missed him due to Jay Jackson’s rise, but Casey’s a quality arm that still has some upside due to his history. They are up 6-1 in the bottom of the 9th. Lalli went 2/4 with a double and a homer. He gets bashed due to ARL, but I truly believe his bat can play for the upper levels, and I think the ARL critique is a bit ridiculous as he is at AA in his 3rd year of pro ball. His margin of error is smaller, that’s for sure, but ARL shouldn’t be the end all and be all just yet.

Yes, I know, early in the year, but these are two intriguing, but somewhat underhyped, arms.

by toonsterwu on Apr 11, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looking forward to the I-Cubs home opener on the 17th.

Hopefully the weather will cooperate.

I left my clever sig line in my other pants.

by znohitter on Apr 11, 2009 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

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