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Sweet Swingin' Soriano Gives Cubs 6-5 Win Over Brewers

You'll excuse me for borrowing the nickname of my favorite childhood Cub -- Billy Williams -- for Alfonso Soriano's single swing last night that turned what could have been a real ugly loss into a 6-5 win over the Brewers instead.

The value of hits like that cannot be overstated. This recap was going to be pretty snarky -- had the homer not been hit, not only would the Cubs have gone down to their third one-run loss of the season, but it would have been because the bullpen couldn't stop walking people. Angel Guzman and Neal Cotts walked the bases loaded and though Aaron Heilman eventually retired the side, it wasn't until after he allowed two of those runs to score on a J. J. Hardy single, making the score 5-3 Brewers. Not only that, but after having loaded the bases with nobody out in the 7th, Micah Hoffpauir, with a chance to be a hero, struck out on three pitches and looked bad doing it. (Yes, I know. It's one at-bat. But that's exactly the situation Hoffpauir is going to have to do well with if he's going to fill his role on this team.) The Cubs did score one run in the inning, but could have had three or four.

This was after the Cubs had fought back to erase a 3-1 deficit. Carlos Zambrano didn't pitch too badly, but the Cubs did nothing with Dave Bush, a guy they usually hit hard. The only Cub who did much off Bush was Kosuke Fukudome, who doubled and homered. While it's way too early to say Fukudome has "figured it out", he's looked pretty good in the season's first five games (except for the opener). "Keep up the good work" would be my advice to Dome.

There were many, many more Cubs fans in audible evidence on the TV broadcast last night than there were on Friday and they were especially loud after Sori's homer, and again in the bottom of the ninth when Carlos Marmol slipped a gorgeous slider past Prince Fielder for strike three to end it. Lou Piniella had told Marmol, and the media, that Carlos would get some save opportunities even after he anointed Kevin Gregg closer, and last night was the perfect time to do that -- Gregg threw more than one inning on Friday, and not very well. Lou elaborates:

"[Kevin] Gregg is still our closer," Piniella said. "I can't get them both up [in the bullpen]. I said that the other night in Houston. I can't afford to get them both up, because I lose [both of] them. We got Marmol up just in case we tied or went ahead, and that was the end of it.

"I said when the season started there will be opportunities for both of them, but believe me, tomorrow, if we get into a similar situation, Gregg will be the closer."

As long as Gregg doesn't have meltdowns like he did on Friday, the Cubs will have two good pitchers they can go to in the late innings.

Here's a final note on Friday's game from Bruce Miles:

Had a chance to talk with both Ryan Theriot and bench coach Alan Trammell today about the last play of yesterday's game, when Theriot just missed throwing out Rickie Weeks at the plate. I'll have both discussions in tomorrow's paper (and online), but Theriot said there was no way to get a double play. Trammell agreed, saying second baseman Mike Fontenot would have been wiped out by the baserunner, Corey Hart.

I completely agree. Theriot's only play was home -- and Weeks is a good and fast baserunner. They just barely missed getting him. Here's more on this play from Bruce.

So instead of being in a position where they have to win tonight just to salvage one game against their I-94 rivals, the Cubs can win their second straight road series with a victory; Ryan Dempster will face Jeff Suppan. If any BCB'ers will be at Miller Park tonight, I'll be in section 225, behind third base.

It's a little too early to call this a momentum-changer; but it's definitely one of the games that, presuming the Cubs do go on to the 2009 postseason, you could look back on this fall and say, "That one really meant something."

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Good post

I was going crazy after Soriano hit that HR. I think he’s poised to have a monster season. I’m excited!

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by Chanman25 on Apr 12, 2009 7:03 AM CDT reply actions  

It is a good post and Al, I enjoy your game raps more than the professional news

A few things: Soriano is hitting well and continues to amaze me that after the game gets going is essentially a clean up hitter as the batting order flips.

Fukudome and Ramirez are hitting while Lee and Bradley are struggling.

Fontenot continues to hit consistently as is his double play mate Theriot. I heard that Theriot is using a lighter bat allowing him to pull the ball more.

As for Theriot—-okay he made the right decision but still he has to make the throw, that is his defensive weakness…

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Apr 12, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Game raps?

You mean I have to do them in rap now?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes you do

this should be entertaining is nothing else

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta think about this some more.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

why not post them in binary?

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol!

I think a video of Al rapping his post would be by far preferential.

Ryan. Theriot. Sucks.

by Emelie on Apr 12, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

rapping up the thread as i smiled ear to ear

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Apr 12, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry wrong pic

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Apr 12, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I liked the shredder pic better.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 13, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

can he do it in parody like Weird Al?

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice to wake up to a win this am.

It certainly looked ugly for most of the game as you noted Al. Couldn’t stay through the late innings, so it was good to see they persevered. Now let’s take the rubber game today and get ready for the damp home opener tomorrow!

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by Zeke on Apr 12, 2009 7:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice ending to a game

that had Cotts pitch again (meh), and still had our #3 and #4 hitters going through a famine of hits.

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Apr 12, 2009 7:23 AM CDT reply actions  

BTW, Muskrat in cubs.com also headlines Sori's "Sweet" Swing.

Does she read BCB also, or did someone decide that this morning everyone has to talk about Sori’s “sweet” swing?

"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.

by zevkalman on Apr 12, 2009 7:25 AM CDT reply actions  

It was a sweet swing.

I had decided to use that headline last night… just didn’t have time to post till this morning.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

But . . .But . . . But

only left-handers can be described as having a “sweet swing.” It’s in the baseball cliché handbook!

by Josh Timmers on Apr 12, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Breaking clichés with my bare hands!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

love him or hate him...

it’s what I’ve always thought about Alex Rodriguez. Watching AROD, Junior and Edgar “Better get in the HOF” Martinez batting back-to-back-to-back was the best part of living in Seattle during the late 90s summers. Three of the best swings ever in the same lineup… and Randy Johnson to go with it… sigh!

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by jameslcrockett on Apr 12, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I went to bed halfway through...

Angry at Zambrano, wondering where our offense was, and tired since it was about 2am. I woke up to exactly what I wanted – heroics. Win today and we take the series and the road trip!

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by sanantonecub on Apr 12, 2009 7:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Told you you'd wake up to a surprise!

:-)

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 12, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano is seeing the ball well early.

Both Kosuke and Soriano are attacking the ball early in the count, often on the first pitch. It’s almost like the word around the league is “Get yourself ahead in the count, because they’ll lay off everything or swing at anything after that.” Nice to see the Cubs, at least some of them, have adjusted their approach.

"May the sun never set on American baseball." ~Harry Truman

by Goodie1969 on Apr 12, 2009 7:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Kosuke is attacking early...Soriano is just being Soriano

Soriano always swings early. So the question is, has the league forgotten to throw him a curveball in the dirt or is he just making better contact with the first good pitch instead of swinging and missing. Don’t forget, his homer in Houston came on the heels of three strikeouts in his first three at bats.

Kosuke on the other hand, you are correct about. He is getting after the first pitch and has potentially set the league up to give him good first pitches thinking he’ll take them.

by khill33 on Apr 12, 2009 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then he will have to adjust after they stop doing that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

Because that’s what got him last year. They adjusted to him and he was cooked. Early on, I don’t see where this season is going to be any different, sadly.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 12, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess that's true about Soriano

but his second homer against Houston was on an 0-2 count, so that one’s on the pitcher for being idiot enough to be anywhere near the strike zone with that pitch. Then again, it was LaTroy Hawkins, so that makes more sense.

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by Goodie1969 on Apr 12, 2009 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's also done a good job of laying off bad pitches so far

this year. here’s hoping that continues.

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by buckmulligan on Apr 12, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sori hit an opposite field HR

in his last Arizona Spring Training game, and that impressed me. He’s pretty much a pull hitter and he bombed that bad boy with ease. Maybe this is the year that Sutcliffe is prediciting! So far, it looks like he’s seeing the ball very well at the plate.

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by BigJohnAZ on Apr 12, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bullpen

I wouldn’t have thought the bullpen would be such an issue. With three or four guys conceivably vying for the fifth starter spot, you would have thought the middle relief would be full of guys that could throw solid. Even Marshall didn’t look great his first time out. The walks are going to kill Lou. He was going ballistic in the dugout during the first Brewer game.

by khill33 on Apr 12, 2009 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

He was going ballistic last night, too....

…I can’t recall the last time a manager sent the pitching coach out for a pitching change because he was so pissed.

Cotts made the right move entering the dugout the opposite end of where Lou was.

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by carmen_fanzone on Apr 12, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not a good outing by Guzman

He needs to be better. I love what I’m seeing from Heilman though, he’s been great. On Fukudome, don’t forget, he was just as good at the beginning of last year, so I’m not sold on him just yet. Happy Easter to all, let’s take the series tonight!

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 12, 2009 8:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Hey Al read the box score from Yahoo!

Al & others reading this might want a chuckle this am. Read Yahoo’s box score from the Cubs/ Brewers game. In the 8th inning A. Ramirez homered to the catcher. Who is the proofreader? Dang that catcher is quick! He ran all the way out to left field to try and catch the ball, LOL

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by LarryCubFan on Apr 12, 2009 8:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I was watching ESPN Gameday last night

And it said the same thing. It took me a few seconds to realize that a run scored, though, and figured that “homer to catcher” was just a mistake. That’s interesting that Yahoo’s box score has it, while ESPN’s Gameday had it as well. I wonder if Yahoo gets their data from ESPN?

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by Sobenergy on Apr 12, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Noted that too

I saw that too. Many times they will also say “Batter hit ball to shortstop” not the persons name but Batter.

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by puckishcubsfan on Apr 12, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, there isn't.

MLB.com has scorers in every press box. I know this because I was once asked to be one.

Don’t know about the other companies.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

MVP! MVP! what? no good? too early?

haha it would be sweet to see fonzie edge pujols for that mvp award

by xene on Apr 12, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Tonight's game is on ESPN. 2nd time in a week.

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by dtpollitt on Apr 12, 2009 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

And next Sunday night will make it three times in two weeks.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Over on the Bizarro BCB

the game thread was pretty good last night. I especially enjoyed this comment:

Soriano puts the fear of a hurricane in me when a strike is thrown to him.

"May the sun never set on American baseball." ~Harry Truman

by Goodie1969 on Apr 12, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

That was good...

…. they also whined a lot, some blaming the umps and “cheap” home runs. One guy even called Soriano’s homer cheap. Whatever…….

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 12, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

They have their share of idiots

and so do we. But anyone who called the Soriano homer “cheap” is king of the idiots, unless he was joking.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 12, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty good to hear an opposing fan say that....

but I feel the same way about Braun and Fielder, so I guess we’re even. And Weeks, Hart, and Hardy are no picnic either. No doubt that after losing Sabathia and Sheets the Brewers have their work cut out for them. But with that offense, they can beat you on any given day, and anyone who takes them lightly is making a mistake.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Apr 12, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

analyzing Z's performance

I would say he actually did not have very good stuff last night. In the first four innings, his pitches seemed flat and his location was a bit off. Thus, hitters were able to foul off his out pitches and run deep counts. It seemed that Z finally had good stuff in that last couple of innings as his arm tired and his pitches started to break sharper.

It was a gutsy performance by Z to be able to go 6 and keep his team in the game when he clearly did not have his best stuff. A less mature Z would have lost his focus last night as the batters kept fouling off his pitches. I was proud of Z for hanging in there on a night where his stuff was clearly B-/C+ stuff.

This is the kind of Z we will need if we are going to get 18-20 wins from him in 2009. A very encouraging night as it relates to Z.

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by LAcarl519 on Apr 12, 2009 9:12 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

I think Z's performance last night

also reflected Geo’s absence. Geo is so good at getting Z to settle down early on. I kept thinking about how different his performance would have been with the advantage of Geo catching and trotting out to the mound.

Ryan. Theriot. Sucks.

by Emelie on Apr 12, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

A few times he seemed peeved with Koyie.

by sactown on Apr 12, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Totally agree.

Without having his best stuff, (at least in the first few innings) he hung in there and gave the team a chance to win. That’s what a quality starter has to do even on nights where he is a little off. He looked absolutely dominant in the sixth to the point where I was actually asking “could we possibly get one more inning out of him” even though I knew he was close to 120 pitches. All’s well that ends well, I guess, but that seventh inning was so ugly I told my girlfriend I was still going to be pissed even if the Cubs ended up winning this game. Which was not true, of course, but I sure felt that way at the time.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Apr 12, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

TOO UPSET TO SLEEP.....

So I stayed up and yes it was a very sweet swing …..The problem in the bullpen has to be taken care of . I would assume after their performance last night some action was in order . ESPN has the coverage tonight will we have to hear about the 101 years, the goat, the 69 team ect ?? Go Cubs …

by cubs north on Apr 12, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions  

What's the over/under on Cotts staying?

I thought Piniella wanted to kill him, sending Rothschild out to get him instead of doing it himself. There was a lot of tension inthe dugout during that inning.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 12, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions  

While Cotts did not pitch

well, I think Lou was pissed at his whole bullpen at that point, not just Cotts in particular when he sent Rothschild out to pull Cotts from the game.

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by gwood on Apr 12, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Jason Waddell throws well at Iowa...

… Cotts may not last long. Waddell’s more of a traditional LOOGY than Cotts, anyway.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think that's the first option?

I wonder what options Lou sees. Does he, for example, see making Marshall a reliever and Heilman a starter as a viable option at this point in the season?

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on Apr 12, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why would you do that before Marshall's even had a start?

No, I don’t think Lou’s looking at that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

You would do it if you are sick of Cotts and think the Cubs have to have a LH reliever who can get LH bats out.

I’d be less surprised to see Marshall left in the ’pen than to see Waddell up already.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on Apr 12, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it makes more sense to recall Waddell.

But it’s still too early after only 5 games to give up on Cotts.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that it's too early on Cotts

but Lou makes up his mind quickly.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on Apr 12, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

but its not just 5 games

Its a career of really bad stats. Cotts has one good year under his belt, the year that the Sox won the series. Every other year he has not put up great numbers.

by dmlichte on Apr 12, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Soriano

So that’s why they hired the guy…

As for me, what I thought were “flu-like symptoms” were actually flu-like symptoms. Had to go lie down in the 6th, and listen to P&R instead of watching. Last time I listened to a Cubs game on WGN was in 2006, and I was yapping with my brother in the car, so I must have missed all of Ronnie’s background muttering – that stuff’s hilarious!

As always, I was glad to hear Rami keeping us in the game after the Brewers proved they could hit with men on after we proved the opposite. I would have been even happier to hear Sori’s game-winner, but for a power failure and subsequent battery drain before the 9th.

Not great, but good stuff nonetheless, and lest we forget, the Cubs are perfect on national TV this year…

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by Clutch16 on Apr 12, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

150% better

(Minor) Fever is gone, and my gut seems happier, too. Thanks for the concern :)

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by Clutch16 on Apr 12, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't see to many other options.

 Call up Shark? Every team is looking for bullpen help. Cubs are going to have to deal with the bullpen ( at least for now) from within. Maybe later in the season trade(s) can be made, but for now we all are going to have to deal with what we got.

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by Grockcubs on Apr 12, 2009 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Exactly.

If we can wait long enough, there’ll be a solid left available at the trade deadline. I’m hoping for Scott Downs.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on Apr 12, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Somebody please...

tell D. Lee the season has started.

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by chr15 on Apr 12, 2009 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

He did

not look good at the plate last night. His swing looks more herky jerky than usual and he is getting under a lot of balls.

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by gwood on Apr 12, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lee will hit

and so will Bradley. Get Soto back in the lineup, and the Cubs will score runs.
 This issue with this team will be the bullpen.

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by Grockcubs on Apr 12, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing it's probably not the case, but

perhaps he’s getting under more because he’s trying to avoid grounding out as much. In other words, maybe he’s made an adjustment to his swing that is taking a bit to get used to. At any rate, I’d rather have fly outs than ground outs.

by CubsWin!Oregon on Apr 12, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice win.

The more I see of Lou the less I like him. I think Gregg was a downgrade at closer for the Cubs, but if you are committed to him wouldn’t the right decision be to run him right out there again last night? I’d be 100% behind Lou deciding to believe in him instead what appears to be the panicky knee jerk reaction. The better way would be to let Gregg redeem himself last night and then use Marmol today because Gregg went 2 days in a row v. “The guy’s in my doghouse.”

It’s no wonder this team chokes with Lou managing, maybe Santoswoddenleg posts are much closer to reality then we know?

If there’s any positive it could be that if Lee is still hitting .100 in June then Lou won’t hesitate to bench him.

by DudeVf11 on Apr 12, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Gregg

had pitched more than one inning the night before which is probably why Gregg wasn’t out there.

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by gwood on Apr 12, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am more inclined to believe that Lou was sending a message to Gregg and that message was NOT...

…“I care about your arm.”

I think he’s already shown that he doesn’t back off on using pitchers until it’s clear to him that the load has rendered them ineffective.

by DudeVf11 on Apr 12, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its game 5

If Lou’s made up his mind 100% about anyone, we’re in trouble.

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 12, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

cubs

great win last night.this bullpen is gonna kill us unless these guys figure things out.glad to see gaudin gone as he would have just added to the mess.i think marmol will end up the closer.lou will have to admit he was wrong sooner or later

by NOMAR on Apr 12, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't think Lou was wrong with the closer decision

Marmol is a strike out pitcher and should pitch in high leverage situations irrespective of the inning. Yesterday was an example with the brewers heart of the order up.

by cubsnlinux on Apr 12, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Recd

People who think that the closer situation is such an easy decision to go with Marmol have to let us know who is going to replace Marmol in the 7th/8th inning “save” situations.

by dmlichte on Apr 12, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

does not matter who saves if there is no bridge to a save situation

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by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

great post

great comeback win

and Theriot on Friday, if you watch the replay, he was also with his back to 2B so he would have needed to reel around and throw a perfect strike to Font, so I agree, go to Home and see what happens

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Back from Milwaukee

Went to the game last night and sat in 224, great seats to enjoy the game but lousy perspective on the strikezone. I went with a few Cub fan friends and we enjoy tailgating before the game.

Anyhow… last night’s game was good to win but in reality, it was one swing from being VERY similar to Friday’s loss. From an offensive standpoint, the Cubs should have gone into the late innings with a decent sized lead. Bush gave the team fits the first go ‘round but the second time through they started getting some decent swings and the third time through they were pounding him. A big at-bat came in the 6th… with Fukudome on 3rd and no outs Lee scalded a ball that was snared by the third baseman. Fukudome never ended up scoring but if that ball gets through Lee is on 2nd and the Cubs could have scored several runs. Lee did what he needed to do there but lined out, however in the second half of this game the Cubs had ample opportunities to score and failed to, and as much as people want to chide Aaron Miles for his at bat on Friday, saying it should’ve been Hoffpauir (and raking Lou through the coals), Hoffpauir failed in the same capacity yesterday.

I do want to take a second to discuss Milton Bradley’s approach at the plate. Its great to see him take a lot of pitches early in the count. He’s working the opponent and getting great 3-0, 3-1 counts. The problem is what he’s doing in those counts… absolutely nothing. I can’t tell if he doesn’t want to take walks or what, but frankly he seems to have a great eye until he’s up in the count, then he’s hitting a lazy pop-up to the right fielder. Maybe this is overly critical but Bradley has frustrated me the last few games. Pitchers are going to learn that if they fall behind him, they can nibble around the zone and he’ll offer.

The pen was truely frustrating yesterday and I postulated with my group, after Cotts and Guzman that one of them may be gone come the home opener at Wrigley. Perhaps the Cubs winning may have revealed Lou’s itch to make a change but we know when things bad happen and players do not produce, Lou does not stand for it. I still would not be surprised to see Cotts sent packing, even if it means no lefty on the team for now.

Anyhow, it was a fun win to watch, but for 8 innings the Cubs did not seem to care that the game was going on. Hopefully this game will lite a fire under them but for most of the game it was looking like yet another game that the Cubs were going to lose that they could have handily won.

by dmlichte on Apr 12, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Just like last year...

Even if individual games (like Friday) are frustrating, the important thing is to keep winning each series…

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by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 12, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I think given the competition in comedy central

the important thing is to maintain a .500 record on the road and beat up on teams you are supposed to beat.

The most important thing is to reduce/eliminate your mental mistakes as the season progresses like TOOTBLANS, one hoppers to home plate from DP depth etc etc.

by cubsnlinux on Apr 12, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

just win 2 or 3 and we are fine

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by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our bullpen sure hasn't been anything to brag about so far...

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by SackMan on Apr 12, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Confession time

My reaction to last October’s disaster was a serious loss of interest in baseball in general and the Cubs in particular. (I don’t think I spent more than 15 minutes watching the World Series for example.) Things are a little better this spring, but I’m not back yet. I had the same pattern about yesterday’s game as I did during the last two playoffs: watch for a little while, things go bad, turn off the tv, work for a while, surf to yahoo, wait a bit and put the tv back on. I saw Soriano’s home run and Marmol’s brilliant work in the 9th and even after watching the post-game, the emotional content of this game is that it was a close loss. It did not “feel” like a victory. I wish I could have enjoyed it more.

by BruceR on Apr 12, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

seems they wanted to lose it more

would Hoffman had made that save?

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Derek and Milton so far have been struggling...

It’s too early to come up with a conclusion now, but I’d give it another week before trying to shake up the lineup. I would think about trying to switch Milton and Aramis in the lineup first thinking that it might help Lee feel comfortable again batting in front of Ramirez.

by aznsensation on Apr 12, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

MB will hit...

He’s doing everything he needs to do. It’s not like he’s having bad at bats. Conversely, he looks great at the plate. Lee on the other hand looks awful.

by kanderber on Apr 12, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you are being a bit selective in your eveluation of Lee. He has hit some pop-ups,

bu he has hits some balls on the nose. The ball he hit to Bill Hall yesterday was a bullet, he was just unlucky. The important thing is to make good contact and sing at good pitche. The hits will eventually fall in.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 12, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think I am...

He’s had, what, 20-25 at bats now? Of course he’s hit some balls hard. Pretty much every regular player in the league has done so through that many at bats. But Lee still swings at crap, and watches very hitable pitches sail into the catcher’s mitt — the same thing he did last year. I’m a fan of his, but I fear that he’s drastically fading off at this point in his career.

by kanderber on Apr 12, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every hitter does that when their timing is slightly off and they aren't seeing the ball well. I'm just

not as sure as you are that his skills are on a steep decline yet.

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by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 12, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping that line drive he hit....

with Fukudome on third is a sign that he’s getting his timing down the getting more comfortable. We need him to produce with RISP, and other than the RBI single he had in Houston and that line drive last night, his at-bats with guys on have been horrific. I’m going with his track record, though, which says he’s going to hit. Bradley too.

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by ctcoff99 on Apr 12, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee will hit eventually

but I am not sure if he is a #3 hitter anymore. If he is slotted as a #3 hitter then people expect him to produce like a #3 hitter and there lies the mismatch in expectations and reality.

by cubsnlinux on Apr 12, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bradley

I am going to disagree on Bradley. He has worked the count but far too often, once he’s ahead in the count, he pops up a bad pitch. Bradley is not taking advantage of the great counts that he’s working.

by dmlichte on Apr 12, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's having solid ABs

walking a lot and seems to have his eye locked in.

I think the hits will follow.

The shortest distance between two points is under construction.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 12, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can tell Lou has rubbed off on me through the tv

Yesterday was frustrating because we cannot throw a damn strike. The bullpen has to throw the ball in the strikezone. Don’t be afraid of strikes Cubs bullpen.

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by nji232 on Apr 12, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Micah

I think this point needs emphasis. Micah came up last night with 0 outs and the bases loaded. This was pinch-hitting 101 and he failed. I sat there during the mound visit and knew what the pitching coach was saying – “You don’t need to throw anything in the strike zone to get him out.” Maybe I’ll be wrong like I was wrong about Fontenot last year, but it sure seems to me like Micah’s not cut out for pinch-hitting.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on Apr 12, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Exactly.

Rec’d.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

Those people who were chastising Piniella for going with Miles over Hoffpauir, saying that it was a clear choice are suddenly silent today.

by dmlichte on Apr 12, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miles over Hoffpauir is a bad decision...

every single time. Aaron Miles is not good at baseball. The only logical reason I can see for using him over Hoff would be speed — to avoid a DP. But in that case, Gathright would be the better option.

by kanderber on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you're going to have a designated PH

and you’re going to yank your best reliever to PH… why aren’t you using your PH?

That continues to make no sense to me. I’m no Hoff fan. I don’t think he IS a PH… but Lou gave him the roster spot for a reason and if not PH, than I don’t know why.

The shortest distance between two points is under construction.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

It makes no sense to me.

Hoffpauir rakes when he plays every day, in spring training or in Iowa. He doesn’t seem suited to hitting off the bench 3-4 times a week. Why does Lou insist in putting him in a role he’s not good for?

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

he is a hitter when palying consistant, when seeing one AB a game or two works against his skill set

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by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this has been discussed over and over around here

Pinch hitting requires a lot of experience and a very good eye. A good pinch hitter should also be able to hit according to the situation.

There is no doubt that Hoff will produce if given consistent at bats as a starter but it remains to been seen if he can adjust to PH duties.

by cubsnlinux on Apr 12, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was going to say the same thing

if he’s a starter, he rakes. As an aside, at least he didn’t hit into a DP. With the bases juiced, a K is more preferable than the DP, even if it scores a run. If it’s the bottom of the 9th, fine, but you have a big inning potentially and can put the game away if you get a couple hits. It’s still early and we’ll have to see how this whole thing plays out with Hoff.

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by BigJohnAZ on Apr 12, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Point is, of course....

… that he can’t start on this team. So, he either has to adjust to the bench role, be traded, or fail.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are so right

Filling the shoes of a D Ward is unrealistic

by Employee22 on Apr 12, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still think Trammel

is covering Theriot’s ass on that double play. If Theriot gets that ball and immediately shuffles it to 2B… I think they get the double play. Because Theriot dithered and hesitated, he felt like he had to go home.

Sigh. I know. I need to let it go.

The shortest distance between two points is under construction.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 12, 2009 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

You are entitled to think girl...

Happy Easter.

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by Jimmyeatworld on Apr 12, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

Watch the replay. He didn’t dither. Weeks is fast. Theriot was moving AWAY from the play. Even if he gets the force, Braun beats the relay and Weeks scores.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not so sure.

would’ve been close, but i think they could’ve turned it.

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by buckmulligan on Apr 12, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

So do I

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 12, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go watch the replay again.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough play either way...

but logic says that he should’ve went for two. Hell, he was in double play position for a reason. The infielders weren’t in there.

by kanderber on Apr 12, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the link.

Replay of game-ending play on Friday.

Theriot is 3/4 of the way to 3B and turned away from 2B when he gets the ball. There’s no way they double up Braun, who runs well. His only play was home.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better view.

This is a screen cap from the above video. Look where Theriot is and what direction he is facing; he has just picked up the ball. There’s no way you turn a DP on a play like this.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Al

if he tries for a DP, everyone rips him for NOT going home. Its the catch 22

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe so.

Look where Weeks is in that photo, only 1/4 of the way down the line. A good throw probably gets him.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyway....

… it’s done. Let’s build on last night’s win. Off to Milwaukee!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right decision, wrong result

I don’t think they would have turned the DP. Theriot took a shot to at least save the game and it did not work out.

(Feces) happens.

The Cubs have a terrific offense and the Brewers a terrible bullpen (again). The Cubs will continue to exploit that major weakness of the Brewers and the Cubs will be fine.

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by DrCrawdad on Apr 12, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree he made the right decision

going home. I am just talking for the over all thoughts here. No matter what decision he made, people would rip him for it. He could have got the out at home, and the next pitch drives the run in, and guess what happens. People say he should have turned two instead. No win situation, and IMO he made the right choice of where to throw the ball.

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still think he could've made a strong throw to second

and TRIED to go for 2.

Everyone seems shocked he went home, if it were that obvious I doubt Ramierz would’ve thrown his hands up like that… but whatever.

I just hope if the situation happens again, Theriot at least tries to go for two.

The shortest distance between two points is under construction.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 12, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Ramirez's gesture...

… was for the call at the plate, not for the decision to throw home.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 12, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cotts is reminding me of Jeff Fassero

when he was unable to get anyone out

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by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

sigh :(

sad seeing Kerry Wood pitch for the Indians now..

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Apr 12, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait, since when was Michael Barrett a Blue Jay?

and Kerry Wood dealing, 3 strikeouts in a perfect ninth, sigh…

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Apr 12, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Turns out he is a pretty good closer

Don’t know if jim hendry knew that

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by nji232 on Apr 12, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish we paid the money for him

but what can we do now but wait for two more years…

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Apr 12, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

More than that. He's not coming back.

For better or worse, time to move on.

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by Shanghai Badger on Apr 12, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding

I love Kerry but damn.

The shortest distance between two points is under construction.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 12, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Much more important tweet from Gordo
to throws before game, 60 percent strength. Says shoulder feels normal, says he can play Mon, start Wed.

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by nji232 on Apr 12, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep

time for everyone to come in off the ledge.

Or just jump. :-P

The shortest distance between two points is under construction.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 12, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

can they jump in from the ledge?

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 12, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gordo is trying out?!?!?!?!?

geez didn’t know we were that bad on relief pitchers with 60 percent pitchers…

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Apr 12, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

PHing

After reading the debate on Hoff as a PH, I got to thinking…

When young players are inserted as PHers, they should choke up on the bat and concentrate on making contact. Then, after having success and getting the knack of pinch-hitting, go back to holding the bat at the bottom of the barrel.

by CaliCub on Apr 12, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions  

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