And So it Begins with Bradley
Looks like his injury will most likely keep him out until the weekend, at least that is what Jim Hendry hopes:
"He's going to miss some games, we knew that," Hendry told WGN radio following Monday's home opener, which was played in the chill and mist at the Friendly Confines. "He's a very strong guy, very tightly muscular from the lower half down. He's going to have some pulls and strains ... we're hoping to minimize the damage and get him back out there as soon as we can."
The rest of the article can be found here: http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=286464&src=152. I don't like this and this was definitely predictable. Combined with the flu epidimec and this, I have a bad feeling about Bradley's tenure..
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Think it's over-reacting
Look again at what Lou said, it’s something they knew was going to occur from time to time.
Aches and strains are a part of the game,unless you are Cal Ripkin the odds are that once in a while you will sit out due to minor creaks and groans.
While I want Bradley out there for 162 games I’m being realistic that it won’t happen but at the same time I won’t agonize unless it’s a major tear or a broken bone or something else devastating
If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.
by carolinacub on Apr 15, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I see your point
But if he has a major injury, especially a broken bone, then we’ll all be saying, “Well, it was a freak play/accident/thing.” So if we can’t bitch when it’s a minor pull, and we certainly won’t bitch if it’s major, when can we bitch? I don’t know about all you, but I need my bitchin’ time/space. Just ask my wife. It’s one of the reasons she’s stated in not wanting to watch more Cub games with me. I’m trying to keep it down this season though, for her sake.
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by Kegler on Apr 15, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Yeah we all need some time to bitch once in a while. Speaking of wives mine asked the other day how many more games was I going to watch and how much longer before the season is over.
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by carolinacub on Apr 15, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
You’re in for a long summer….
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by carmen_fanzone on Apr 15, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
man ain't that the truth
If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.
by carolinacub on Apr 15, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Lucky One
My wife actually will be watching the games when I’m at work. She gives me updates. She’ll even listen in on the XM radio if it’s not on WGN. I guess I picked right.
by portlandcubfan on Apr 16, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not surprising
I don’t see how most of them don’t come down with something. Playing this game in the 30 degree range must really really suck.
by Kornchex on Apr 15, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is unfortunate
but I think the Cubs should be careful with this one. Putting Bradley out there too soon will only threaten a more serious injury. What is more, the weather is not the best in Chicago right now (it’s still cold and wet after the last two days), which only increases the risk of a more severe injury. Give Bradley his 5 days and we can have “fun” watching The Hoff chase balls around right field (the latter portion of this sentence is sarcasm).
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by gwood on Apr 15, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually
As long as Kosuke is hitting I think he should be in right and Johnson in center when Bradley is out.
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by cubstoseriesby100 on Apr 15, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. He was signed
as an alternative to Dome.
IF the dude can still give us obp of .375+, we can tread water nicely, imo.
by The E-Man on Apr 15, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could have had Dunn who would give you a decent OPB, decent BA but 40 HR
n/t
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by Chanman25 on Apr 15, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and no
fielding ability whatsoever.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 15, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milton isn't too hot out there either, considering he DH'd all of last season
I support the guy, but I just did not care for the signing. You know Dunn would have given you 150 games, barring a freak injury.
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by Chanman25 on Apr 15, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably.
But it would have been Dunn. I just don’t know. I like Milton Bradley a lot, and I hope he plays 120+ games.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 15, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think an interesting question to answer is:
Does an extra twenty to thirty games of Dunn make him more valuable to a team than a player like Bradley…or does Dunn short comings make those extra 20-30 games a wash or worse. Plus, can your team absorb the loss of Bradley for those 20-30 games and still make the playoffs. The Cubs are probably such a team…you just hope that he is healthy come playoff time since that is really where you are banking on him being more valuable than a player of Dunn’s ability.
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by TheRiot Police on Apr 15, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
get over it, already.
what’s dunn is dunn.
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by derv on Apr 15, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
-1
Report to U.S. Cellular Field for your punishment.
by dr stabbingworth on Apr 16, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I prefer Kosuke in right and Reed in CF, but Lou has an infatuation with Hoff’s bat and based on last night’s offensive output by the Cubbies, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hoff in today’s lineup.
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by gwood on Apr 16, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DING DING DING
it was announced Hoff starts in RF today
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by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 16, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slightly positive comment.
He didn’t embarrass himself.
On the other hand, he went 0-for-4.
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by Al on Apr 16, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he didnt run into the wall
so thats a plus
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by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 16, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he missed the cut-off man
at least once.
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by drewishdrewid on Apr 16, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he looked...serviceable.
Still wish Lou wouldn’t put him out there.
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by dat cubfan daver on Apr 17, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well at least you don't make any pretense about it
In case there was any doubt you’d made up your mind about Bradley before he’d even donned a Cubs uniform you’re already calling the contract a failure because of an injury so minor it isn’t even going to land him on the DL.
by Wreckard on Apr 15, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we knew this when the injury happened...
… that he’d miss much of the week until it got warmer. So far he’s missed 1.5 games with it. If he doesn’t play till Saturday, I’m not concerned.
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by Al on Apr 15, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not concerned either
but I still say… porcelain doll.
Milton "Porcelain Doll" Bradley.
by Emelie on Apr 15, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong player, when referring to 'porcelain.'
You must be referring to Mark Prior.
Bradley w/Texas last year: 22 HR , 77 RBI, .321 BA, .436 OBP in 126 games
Prior with Chicago 2006 — 9 games.
Prior with Chicago 2007 – 0 games.
Prior with San Diego 2008 — 0 games
Prior with San Diego 2009 — 0 games.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Apr 15, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Prior make the Pads?
I think I remember seeing something stating he was retiring, or am I making that up?
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by derv on Apr 15, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about the former #22
OK, you have a point. But #21 with the team now if far more important to the former #22.
Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.
by blackhawk24 on Apr 16, 2009 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
with the weather conditions, rest him healthy or hurting. this is the weather that concerned me for him
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by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 15, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would imagine...
that if this were October, he would be playing. No harm in sitting out right now. We knew what the Cubs were getting into when they signed him.
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by Ross on Apr 15, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Aramis was out...
as well. We are all forgetting he got scratched because of some back pains. If he doesn’t play today or he misses the upcoming week I think that should be more of a panic button situation than with Bradley. We would essentially be putting the bat of Aaron Miles in place of A-Ram which in its own self is quite comical.
by Treebs on Apr 15, 2009 11:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jumping to a bit of a conclusion there...
….there’s been no talk of Aramis missing more than Monday’s game.
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by carmen_fanzone on Apr 15, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops...LOL
didn’t know he was out today, too. Mea Culpa.
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by carmen_fanzone on Apr 15, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twittermeyer
says Soto is back in the lineup.
And yes, Rami is out of the game again. Why no panicking about that?
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by drewishdrewid on Apr 15, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i think we signed bradley for one reason...
…and that is to get production in october. now i obviously don’t think we can assume a playoff berth—cubs history is too painful to assume anything—and i think the nl central is, as usual, underrated. however, i’d much rather see the staff take an overly conservative route with this guy now and get his bat in there in the postseason.
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by billmurrayforowner on Apr 15, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we signed Bradley
because he’s a terrific player.
by leothelip on Apr 15, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is why we have 4 starting OFers on the roster
Fukudome
Soriano
Bradley
Johnson
and Gathright on the bench
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by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 15, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Game Thread
hello all, the game thread isn’t on the front page yet, but can be found here
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by gwood on Apr 15, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it is safe to say
that Milton has a nice long history of being hurt. SO to think that he was going to be in 130 games is unrealistic. If gets 100 starts in the OF we will be lucky. This is MILTON BRADLEY, his whole career has been the DL.
No alarm for Ramierz because he has not spent a lot of time on the DL. Unfortunately the Cubs do not really have an adequate backup at 3rd, Oh thats right we signed Aaron Miles
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by Grockcubs on Apr 15, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I expect
we’ll see Fonty at third again, with Miles at second.
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by drewishdrewid on Apr 15, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
130 games might be optimistic...
…but it’s not unrealistic. 150 games? That’s unrealistic. Remember Soriano’s first spate of leg injuries in ’07? He still played in 135 games. If managed properly, Bradley could see 130 to 135. Sure, it could be lower. But, IMHO, saying “100 tops” is far too pessimistic.
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by dat cubfan daver on Apr 15, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, but, its 4/15
Tell me WHY there should be any optimism this late in the season?!?!?!?!?!
The Cardinals are keeping up with the cubs and there are only 155 more games to play. Oh, the humanity… (or, for Conan fans, oh, the huge manatee.)
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on Apr 15, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
VROOM VROOM PARTY SCHARTER!
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by drewishdrewid on Apr 15, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good grief
Milton Bradley is a HUMONGOUS addition to the Cubs. Yet we have the "I told you so, I told you so !!! " contingent claiming he is a porcelein doll and will prove a horrendous addition. Good grief.
Nagging injuries are a part of a game. It is why good teams like the Cubs have quality depth in the form of Reed Johnson and Joey Gathright.
Bradley is 10 times more complete and important a ballplayer than Adam Friggin Dunn. And a lot better economic value too.
by BLou on Apr 15, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Only if he stays relatively healthy...
There’s no debate that, if he’s able to play 120 games per regular season (and he’s available in the playoffs), he’s a great addition to the team. Only a handful of people would suggest otherwise, and those people are simply hung up on his behavioral history.
But talent is not, nor has it ever been the issue with Bradley. It’s simply whether or not he can stay on the field. He has struggled mightily to do so throughout his career. For that reason, I’m not sure one should logically say that he’s unequivocally a huge addition to the team. He MAY be a huge addition if he stays relatively healthy. But it’s a very realistic possibility (moreso than just about any other player) that he won’t stay healthy.
I don’t think it’s appropriate to jump to “doom and gloom” or “I told you so” based on this one (hopefully minor) injury. But unless you’re completely in denial, the injury should at least raise the caution flag again.
by SouthernCub on Apr 15, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Very well put, Southern ... rec'd
Milton "Porcelain Doll" Bradley.
by Emelie on Apr 15, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, very reasonably stated.
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by dat cubfan daver on Apr 16, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Dan Bernstein would say
October doesn’t care about this.
I want this team loaded for bear come October.
I’d rather even lose a game because they are sitting than lose either for an extra week because they were rushed back or worse.
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by cubstoseriesby100 on Apr 15, 2009 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was among the...
…most vocally disheartened when this team signed Bradley, and I remain convinced it will ultimately prove to be a bad signing.
HOWEVER – this “injury” is a molehill, not a mountain. It is not an indicator of any more serious injury, nor is there any sign that Milton suffers from anything more than a boo-boo right now.
Milton Bradley is at least a 20-million-dollar man for our Cubbies right now, and we need him healthy and productive. We need him on the field, producing; and if that means questionably high numbers of days off for minor injuries, so be it. Better a week off for a boo-boo than 6-8 weeks (or longer) for something much worse.
He’s collecting checks from the Cubs, so I’m pulling for him. I’d rather he be handled with kid gloves than collecting checks as a spectator on the DL.
Sit him till he’s ready. Maybe a little break will even help shake-up his slump and get him raking. Right now, he’s “our guy,” and I want to see him 100% and putting up gawdy numbers.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Apr 15, 2009 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He WILL miss some games
Soto is back today and hopefully Rammy will be soon. As long as we can keep him off the DL, I’ll be happy.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 15, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Over 162 games even tough guys get strains, sore arms, muscle pulls..."
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by Clutch16 on Apr 15, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soto was out
before Bradley. Rami was out just after.
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by drewishdrewid on Apr 15, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're all overpaid useless prima donnas.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 15, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
send them all packing
trade them to the Netherlands
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by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 15, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for Curlers.
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by drewishdrewid on Apr 15, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
milton will be hurt
but when healthy, you call him
mr. obp
the pink hat guy is my father
by joeschmitt on Apr 15, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back
Of course Bradley wasn’t going to play 162 games. You’d have to think that any player has a chance of injuring something in the cool weather this month.
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by berselius on Apr 15, 2009 6:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So you call me out because I'm posting news
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by Chanman25 on Apr 15, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the issue isn't
so much that people are concerned with the severity of this particular injury. It’s more so that people are unimpressed by it, and by that I mean many will be quick to call Milton a sally, and, well, there’s plenty of evidence to back such an assertion. For all of Gameboard’s talk of giving 110% every day when other guys only offer fractions of effort, he certainly seems to suffer flu-like symptoms and strains more than most. Now, like everyone—I hope—I am certainly rooting for MB. You only have to watch a few ab’s to realize he is gifted up there. I understand we want him healthy for a potential postseason, but to have his infamously, suspiciously brittle body already start to fulfill the prophecy on such a relatively mundane play this early in the season…well, people are going to be upset. And they may tend to expect more of it.
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by TheTruth11 on Apr 15, 2009 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Bradley
doesn’t decide when he plays. He tells the staff how he feels, and Lou decides if he plays.
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by drewishdrewid on Apr 15, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point.
But if every player told their manager every time they had a tight hamstring, there’d be no one left to take the field. Compare a guy like DLee with Bradley.
Not saying, just saying…
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by TheTruth11 on Apr 15, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand
how much does Lee help us when he’s injured? Or Soriano? Remember when he came back from the DL the first time last year? He rejected the AAA rehab spot, came out and cost us at least two games.
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by drewishdrewid on Apr 15, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
agreed, rec'd
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by Chanman25 on Apr 15, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whether or not the Bradley signing was worthwhile can't be judged until the
last out on the last day.
If he misses 150 games, the Cubs make the playoffs and he goes 6 for 15 in the first playoff series with some walks, and the team advances, it was worth it.
If the sky falls with every Gameboard muscle tweak and day off, this is going to be a very long season.
Let’s face it, Milton Bradley is not an everyday player. Let’s judge him on his season ending stats coupled with his playoff stats and go from there. Further, as long as Dome is producing, Bradley will be missed even less.
Deep breaths all.
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by N Oakley on Apr 16, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley suspended 2 games for incident w/ump, will appeal, per ESPN
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