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Ryne Sandberg Debuts As Smokies Manager

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Notice the stands

It’s beautiful here in the smokies right now but still a little chilly for us fair weather loving folks.
i can’t wait to get over to the park this year, Just want it a bit warmer

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on Apr 16, 2009 8:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Sandberg the heir apparent?

So, after we win the WS this year, and Lou retires (as I think he would in that circumstance). Does Ryno get the big league spot? They are certainly making him earn his way. I would hope so, I like the fire he seems to have acquired, I thought his HOF speach was spectacular, and think he would be a perfect spokesperson for the club.

by BatCubFan on Apr 16, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's very possible.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him added to the major league coaching staff next year.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 16, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

slightly off-topic, but

Is there a MLB rule on max # of coaches? For example, could you have a bench coach, and an assistant bench coach, or assistant pitching coach?

by BatCubFan on Apr 16, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can have five coaches in uniform.

A sixth can help during pregame, but not be in the dugout during the game (that’s what Ivan DeJesus does).

The Cubs five coaches during the game are Alan Trammell, Matt Sinatro, Mike Quade, Lester Strode and Larry Rothschild.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 16, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what does Ivan do during the game?

Tidy up in the locker room? Update the stat books? Hang out with Pat Hughes during the 5th inning? I smell the need for some quality investigative reporting… by which I mean making something up that sounds good.

by znohitter on Apr 16, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which begs the question

what does Pat Hughes do during the 5th inning?

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 16, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's in the back room

with Daryl Strawberry and Gilbert Grape.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 16, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's five coaches in the dugout

So Strode is in the bullpen and Perry’s in the dugout with Quade, Trammell, Sinatro and Rothschild.

by Seamer on Apr 17, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mailbag

This looks like a question for znohitter. Z?

by One F on Apr 16, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let me just e-mail myself that question...

…huh. Apparently I don’t know. I’ll work on it.

by znohitter on Apr 16, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose one of the present coaches could get a manager's job somewhere.

If not, who would get “booted”?

Sandberg really is earning his shot and I hope he gets a chance. But, that doesn’t mean that someone like Trammel will necessarily be shoved aside.

Slightly OT: Any insight into why Jody Davis’ role changed? The organization seemed to be really high on him.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 16, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trammel

Im surprised nobodys given Trammel another chance.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Apr 16, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

look how long it took Riggleman

whose only downfall was winning in 98 wth a team that over achieved.

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 16, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my ideal world

In my ideal sunshine and lollipops world Lou lasts one more year and Ryno coaches under him next year for one season as some team finally wakes up and hires Trammel.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Apr 16, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still see Girardi coming back some day

If the Yankees don’t make it to the playoffs this year I think he’ll be fired. It could happen

"If I were playing third base and my mother were rounding third with the run that was going to beat us, I'd trip her. Oh, I'd pick her up and brush her off and say, 'Sorry, Mom,' but nobody beats me." ~ Leo Durocher

by Musicdude10 on Apr 17, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One would think he's the heir apparent

There are also 29 other teams and if the Cubs don’t give him the big chair, he could get interest from other places.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 16, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If in three years

The Cubs don’t think he’s ready and some other team does, he’s gone.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 16, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try two...

Lou’s contract ends after 2010. Going into 2011 would be Ryno’s window of opportunity for Clark and Addison. And based on the fact he went from low class-A to double-A makes me think the next stop will be the big city.

You’re right in general though, if Ryno is thrown the suitcase full of cash, he may bolt.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Apr 16, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I could see him waiting a couple of years

If Lou signs an extension and there is an understanding that it’s Ryne’s.

But if they hire someone else, he’s gone.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 16, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

part of me

There’s part of me that wouldn’t mind seeing him get a couple of years experience as a big league manager before he comes here.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Apr 16, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where is Jody Davis? I saw him at Fitch Park-

Is he with I-Cubs? I thought he might be next in line.

"I still don't know what happened"- Fergie Jenkins on '69

by tommy veryzer on Apr 16, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jody Davis is now the minor league catching coordinator.

And yes, that’s considered a demotion.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 16, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm- I thought he was doing a pretty good job

did they demote to focus more on Ryno maybe?

"I still don't know what happened"- Fergie Jenkins on '69

by tommy veryzer on Apr 16, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 16, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Because I thought I had read somewhere (last year) that Davis was ahead of Sandberg on their managerial depth chart.

by bluekoolaide on Apr 16, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was at the time.

But I think Ryno moved ahead of him with his hard work last year.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 16, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jody won a championship in Daytona

No love for Jody

"You just don't know understand how frustrating this is"- Kevin Borseth

by TkGoUWGB on Apr 16, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, I should have read all the comments before posting the question

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 16, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Interesting....

I’ve had Jody as my team manager the last two years at Hundley’s Camp. Two years ago, at dinner one night we all were talking about the prospect of Jody managing the Cubs one day. He was asked about Sandberg and his quick response was a terse “What about him?” He wouldn’t say more than that about Sandberg, but Jody made it clear he wanted the job one day.This year, with his new assignment, he really, really didn’t want to talk about it, but you could tell he was not happy about it at all. Other former platers weren’t so shy about it and were pretty open about the fact they thought Jody got screwed in the deal. For what it’s worth, Davis’s managerial experience, baseball acumen, and overall demeanor as it relates to being a manager are more respected by former players than Sandberg’s. There’s a general feeling got in line and moved ahead as he has because of his name more than anything else. Right or wrong, there was no mistaking that from the guys willing to talk about it.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 17, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh...

Left out some a key word-

For what it’s worth, Davis’s managerial experience, baseball acumen, and overall demeanor as it relates to being a manager are more respected by former players than Sandberg’s. There’s a general feeling Sandberg got in line and moved ahead as he has because of his name more than anything else. Right or wrong, there was no mistaking that from the guys willing to talk about it.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 17, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not what I've heard.

Management felt Sandberg worked harder than Davis. Being liked isn’t necessarily a quality that makes for a good manager. Dusty Baker was well-liked by his players. We all know how that worked out.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 17, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I didn't say anything about management though

I was referring to the former players at Hundley’s camp. I also didn’t say they were right, it was just what they felt.

FWIW, in the past two years I’ve been around several of the ’84 guys, they tell stories about Sutcliffe, Sarge, Jody, Moreland, Smith, Frey, Trout but not once have I ever heard a Sandberg story.

"When they signed Fukudome, I knew they were trying to get me fired". - Ron Santo, January, 2008

by BeerCub on Apr 18, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I don't doubt...

… that the former players would be on Davis’ side.

Sandberg appears to have changed since he got into management. The Hall of Fame speech may have been our wakeup call to show this.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 18, 2009 4:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing is....

for those guys who spent time around Sandberg in the ‘80s, but haven’t spent a lot of time with him in the years since, there probably isn’t much to tell. If you listen to Sutcliffe talk about Sandberg as a player, he basically says that although they were good friends, Sandberg was the type of person who talked to you if you talked to him. Other than that, he was just quiet, and didn’t say or do much off the field. Great player, boring person, more or less. And I think a lot of guys view Jody Davis as more of a “manager” or “coach” personality than Sandberg based on what they were like as players. I admit, when I first heard Sandberg wanted to manage, as much as I love Ryno (my all-time favorite player) I was skeptical. I didn’t think he had what it took because he had a reputation as being so quiet and reserved. But in the days since he retired, if you ever listen to him speak, he seems completely different. He’s engaging, funny, and gives honest and thoughtful answers to questions he’s asked. As a player, the word he used most during interviews was “uhhhh….ummmm”. He nothing like that now, but I’m not sure guys who knew him as a player are fully aware of that, or the image of his old personality is just too ingrained into their minds. This is all just theories, of course, but it makes sense to me.

"Don't complain to me about the stormy weather, boys. Just bring the ship into port." --Steve Stone, September 2004

by ctcoff99 on Apr 18, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great close-up

thanks for the pics Don!

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Apr 16, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"I won't be like A-Rod" - Z, 3/17/09

by Ihatethecards on Apr 16, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What other manager wears his pants legs up?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 16, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Red Suspenders?

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 16, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryno

I have a friend who works for a newspaper down there. She got a chance to meet Ryno and he charmed her socks off. She’s on the sports staff but not a writer.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Apr 16, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love that Ryno is happily

working his way up the ranks, learning the ropes of coaching.

nothing wrong with jumping right into MLB, dont get me wrong, but it can only help going thru the ranks.

Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 16, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have to say

As he approaches his 50th birthday the man has aged very well.

Ryno as many of you know is my all time favorite player. Nobody really even comes close. He can do no wrong.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by cubstoseriesby100 on Apr 16, 2009 1:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought the same thing when I looked at that picture.:)

Also he was my favorite player as a kid. As my first crush.

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 16, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D'oh!

Just noticed they opened the season in Jax last week! I was there and could have brought my son, who’s named after Ryno….bummer.

Definitely making the trip when the Smokies return in July

"I got a PBS mind in an MTV world"...Jimmy Buffett

by The Ryno and I Know on Apr 17, 2009 8:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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