Playoff Atmosphere? In April? You Bet! - Cubs 8, Cardinals 7
There was more intensity in today's ballpark crowd than during game one of last year's NLDS.
Strange but true: we are only ten games into the 2009 season and already, we have had several close and intense games and today, perhaps the most intense of all, with three lead changes and several more changes of momentum. The result, an 8-7 come-from-behind Cubs win over the Cardinals, was pleasing to everyone (except the handful of Cardinals fans who had sneaked onto our bench when Jessica wasn't looking, and who slinked away in defeat after the game-ending double play).
There were many heroes today -- not only Alfonso Soriano, who hit the game-winning homer in the eighth inning (with five homers in ten games so far, Soriano is off to his best start as a Cub and, presuming he stays healthy, maybe off to a banner year), but Micah Hoffpauir, who drove in the first run with a double; Geovany Soto, whose RBI single in the fifth tied the game after the Cardinals had gone ahead in the top of the frame; Kosuke Fukudome, who walked, doubled and hit a sacrifice fly, and who is off to a fine start (we can ignore the couple of helicopter swings that looked really bad for the moment, anyway).
And Carlos Marmol, who was going into the game regardless of the 9th-inning score -- he was the only one warming up -- throwing his first six pitches out of the strike zone (a walk and a hit batsman excited the Cardinals fans but scared those of us in blue), and then settling down and striking out Ryan Ludwick, who had already homered twice (Dave was surprised Tony LaRussa wasn't bunting with Ludwick, considering how often TLR goes against the "book") and getting pinch-hitter Khalil Greene to bounce into that DP.
Ten games into the season, you can't call this a "must-win". However, winning a game like this after all the mental mistakes of the last couple of days, and coming from behind after the Cardinals kept pounding homer after homer has to put some good feelings in the Cubs clubhouse tonight. The Cubs could have put this game away in the first two innings, when they had P. J. Walters, making his ML debut, on the ropes, but failed to cash in for more than two runs in the first despite having four consecutive men reach base, and after having the first three reach base in the second, only one run scored. Nevertheless, win any way you can.
Yesterday, I wrote that the Cubs starters have to start going seven innings. Not that Lou would listen to me, but Carlos Zambrano did manage seven today, with a reasonable pitch count of 109 (73 strikes, a good sign), and besides Ludwick's two bombs and the mistake he made to Brian Barden in the 6th when he homered, Z threw well today. It saved the rest of the bullpen -- Aaron Heilman had an efficient inning -- and even though Kevin Gregg got up when Marmol put the first two hitters on base in the 9th, he wasn't up very long, because the K and the DP came in quick order.
Other good things today: Aramis Ramirez went 3-for-4, raising his early-season average to .364; Geovany Soto looked bad in his first two AB's, but after the single he worked a walk and appears to be getting his timing back after missing a few days. Derrek Lee had a pair of singles and scored twice; while he is still hitting only .225, I'm not worried about him. (Yet.)
The crowd of 40,250 is the largest in the four home games thus far; that will likely be surpassed tomorrow. There were far fewer Cardinal fans than you would see in a midsummer series, likely because of the weekday starts and the Sunday night game; with schools not out it was likely that not that many St. Louis fans would make a weekend out of it and still be able to make it back to work or school on Monday. Oddity: enormous lines for the bleachers on the Sheffield side before gate-opening, with hardly any people waiting on Waveland. The likely reason: Sheffield's in the sun at 11 am, while Waveland isn't. With temperatures at that hour of only 48 degrees, Waveland was likely cold!
Nice to see BCB readers mrcubsfan and dfrancon, who are both in town for the weekend. Glad you -- and everyone else -- saw an important win today.
Finally, a bit of shameless promotion: if you didn't hear the WGN radio broadcast today, Pat Hughes, who was gracious enough to write the foreword for us for "Cubs By The Numbers", gave us a plug during the fourth inning. Click here to hear the clip (link opens .mp3 file).
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first!
That game ROCKED.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That game was a lot of fun
I am just sad that I was forced to listen to it on the radio. And I don’t get to see tomorrow’s either because up here in MN we are stuck with CLeveland vs. NY . . . BOOO!!!
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on Apr 17, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats on the Pat & Ron shout out, Al -- well deserved!
by Emelie on Apr 17, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
(Hope you have your copy already!)
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the shout-out
from Pat. Congrats. Very cool!!
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on Apr 17, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
What about me?
Kasey
See what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html
Also, see the Cubs 2009 schedule at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2009.html
by kaseyi on Apr 17, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, I gave you a twitter shout-out today...
“Cubs By The Numbers” just got a shout-out from Pat n Ron on WGN. Great book. Congrats Casey, Al and Matt.
about 8 hours ago from txt
But as you can see, I kinda screwed up your name. Sorry about that…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Apr 17, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is this Casey person of which you speak? j/k
Kasey Ignarski
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Apr 18, 2009 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
* of whom you speak
my English is very not good
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Apr 18, 2009 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I knew anything about twitter....
I would have really enjoyed that. Thanks!
Kasey
See what old Cubs Scorecards looked like at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/scorecards.html
Also, see the Cubs 2009 schedule at http://cubsbythenumbers.com/sched2009.html
by kaseyi on Apr 18, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I felt like we needed that one. Its just nice to right the mistake ship so to speak
..I will be there on Saturday and I cant wait!
New sig currently under construction
by JB 23 on Apr 17, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what a game!!
Man I love baseball!!
I didn't get the players I wanted in the offseason!! Hopefully I get what I want in the Regular Season---The World Series Trophy!! Go Cubbies!!
by cubsluver22 on Apr 17, 2009 5:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Al...
In the box score at the top you need to change Marmols save total.. that was his 2nd save not his first.. Just thought i would point that out…
Great win today. Nice to see sori have 3 bad abs but not let it affect him when it matter most!!
Greg Jennings.. Future All Pro
by mkcubs21 on Apr 17, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't change that.
It comes from a data provider. Heilman’s win total is also wrong — that was his 2nd win. I’ll report this.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem..
just thought i would let you know.. Love the recap.. great game!!!
Greg Jennings.. Future All Pro
by mkcubs21 on Apr 17, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was!
I’ve passed the word along about the boxscore.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds good..
great to hear you getting some pub about the book as well. any link on where one can get the book as well??
Greg Jennings.. Future All Pro
by mkcubs21 on Apr 17, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See the right sidebar!
There’s an ad there that takes you directly to the Amazon page.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Carlos Marmol" must be Spanish for "Mitch Williams"...
It’s gonna be one wild and crazy roller-coaster ride all year with this team. Hang on tight!
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
by ballhawk on Apr 17, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well, if your gonna hit someone it might as well be Pujols
..at least he cant hit one out then.
I am sure that was part of the strategy ;)
New sig currently under construction
by JB 23 on Apr 17, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Carlos Marmol
was Spanish for “Cubs Win!”
by socalbob on Apr 17, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We really, truly, dearly need an ignore feature for the game threads
Who do we beg at SBN?
by Emelie on Apr 17, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know
I really need to come up with a better way to Z through the comments. Its all well and good to have people say “well then don’t read it” but its darn near impossible to do that when in order to find the comment you’re looking for you end up getting Z’d to someone’s insanity.
Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 17, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looked like a bloodbath in there today....
Kinda glad I skipped it.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Apr 17, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here
The game threads, besides being long, are getting as bad as they’ve ever been.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 17, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I force myself to stay away from the game threads
when the game is close or the Cubs fall behind. It’s just not fun anymore reading how Soriano sucks because he struck out three times then is heralded as a hero when he hits the GWHR. That’s the way he rolls.
There is too much demand for perfection in the threads. I enjoyed watching the game away from BCB. No haters and naysayers pounding on their keyboards in disgust.
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Apr 17, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I left the game thread
yesterday in about the third or fourth inning. I just couldn’t take the negativity any longer.
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on Apr 18, 2009 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
It was pretty funny when I went thru it tonight after I knew how the game turned out.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Apr 17, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I floated this during the game, so i'm sure it got lost in the fray...
… Al, how do you feel about me taking a crack at writing a greasemonkey script that ignores certain users comments and sharing it with the community? I understand this sort of splinters the community, and if you say no, i wont pursue it, but the general consensus seems to be that the negativity and overall level of unproductive comments is becoming detrimental. Santoswoodenlegs said to run it by you…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasemonkey
Basically Firefox users could install a plugin that would allow for selective comment ignoring, if i could get it going as i hope…
by AndrewJStone on Apr 17, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have not had a chance to look through all the game threads.
Can someone please email me with info about today’s? And send me more info on the greasemonkey thing, too, I’ll at least look at it.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I
left the threads today. It’s to damn depressing.
by sue369 on Apr 17, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That bad? Glad I was busy at work
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson
by Shanghai Badger on Apr 17, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, Sue
This is supposed to be fun.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 17, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they all sang
a different tune later in the day.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that it the most annoying part
for example, just twenty minutes or so before Soriano sucks and we need to trade him. He hits his homerun and the same people are heralding him as the next coming.
They are all flip flopping like the other HWSNBN.
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on Apr 18, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I do that all the time with Fonzie...lol
I read through them and, granted, both sides have legitimate gripes.
The “God, this team sucks” crowd isn’t much different than the “Well, Riot got a hit, but it was to rightfield again” or “Hoff got a hit, but wait until he gets out in the field” crowd, in my opinion. Both fail to see the big picture. Both are negative. I’m no pollyanna when it comes to cheering for this team. They piss me off as much as they make me happy.
There just seems to be no middle ground in the game threads. And then it gets personal. And that’s when it’s no fun in there.
Nobody cares about your fantasy baseball team
by carmen_fanzone on Apr 18, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
but my impression is that the “Riot got a hit, but it was to rightfield again” crowd is mostly being sarcastic. I’ll give you the Hoff crowd though. Some of them are being sarcastic as well, but some aren’t.
It’s the personal assaults that takes the game threads to a point where I can’t handle them, as well.
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on Apr 18, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will address this in today's pregame post.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't had time to hang out in the game threads this season.......
but it sounds like I am happy about that. Last summer it was great fun, but by fall it was already starting to get bad.
"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver
by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 18, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's so disheartening
Come back threads should be the most fun, not the least. :( I wasn’t there yesterday because I was on a plane, but given what I’ve seen it doesn’t surprise me that people were negative.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on Apr 18, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, the sour taste is gone from my mouth
Any more games like that- I’m gonna have to double up on the TUMS and Rolaids. And I’m in front of the TV watching. The old lady that had the “dead” Cardinal on her hat was a Hoot. Go Cubs Go!
"It was a wise Man that invented Beer" (Plato)
by LarryCubFan on Apr 17, 2009 5:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Cardinal fans were bigger than me
but they were in fact very polite and well behaved. Sure they cheered wildly for their team but they were knowledgeable and serious fans.
I am stilling recovering from the game.l literally forget to take my blood pressure pills today which was not the best day for that.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 17, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the majority of Cardinal fans
they’re baseball fans who love their team.
Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.
by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 17, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I have never had a problem with Cardinal fans.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Cardinal fans are excellent and knowledgeable baseball fans. I’ve never had a problem being a Cub fan in their midst, even at the new and old Busch in St. Louis.
by BLou on Apr 17, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed again
A couple of years ago, I was down at Busch for a couple of games. The Cardinal fans seemed to dislike Jason Isringhausen almost as much as I did!
by jsartoris on Apr 17, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more time
For the most part, I love Cardinals fans. Sometimes in big groups they can become nauseating, but I always enjoy talking baseball with them. Most of them know their stuff.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 17, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I always enjoy going to St.Louis for Cub games and treated very well during my stay there…….. Wish we all treated them the same here, but that is not always the case……. They have classy fans……
by James031 on Apr 17, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
However, the self-proclaimed 'best fans in baseball' schtick
they fall for does get tiresome.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 17, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was mentioned in the game thread that your book was being promoted on the radio
Thanks for the link so that I could hear what was said. Great PR and hope you get on the best sellers list.
As far as the game, well they always have to make you sweat it out. I get nervous enough following on gameday at work but I worry about my 81 year old mother watching at home on TV. Sometimes she turns it off if it makes her to crazy but I hope today she saw the whole thing.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on Apr 17, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
heilman is 2-0
please update theblue banner when you get a chance
by brian custer on Apr 17, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As noted above...
… I do not have control over that part of the site, it comes from a data provider. I have notified the tech people, hopefully they can get it fixed.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very important win today
No such thing as a must-win game in April, but today’s game was very important nonetheless. Cubs came through when they needed to.
St. Louis is showing me that they will be a formidable opponent all season long. We have our work cut out in winning the NL Central.
by BLou on Apr 17, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
funny but i think they might look back on this one
Cards will be close all year. They are mashers at the plate.
This will be good for the Cubs, nothing like competition, tomorrows game will be a good too.
Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."
by Ivy Walls on Apr 17, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't underestimate how good the Cardinals are
Wainwright will win 20 games in his sleep with that lineup supporting him. And Lohse and Wellemeyer are proving they are capable major league starters having graduated from the Dave Duncan School of Career Reclamation. Chris Carpenter eventually coming back will be gravy. Their main issue is the bullpen just like the Cubs.
by BLou on Apr 17, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still
remember Wellemeyer in his first game. That was so cool him striking out the side against the Brewcrew.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 17, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"win 20 games in his sleep".
Hmm, let’s examine that.
In the last three years there has been exactly one 20-game winner in the NL — Brandon Webb, last year.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way
a Cardinal pitcher wins 20 games. Just no way.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last StL pitcher to win 20 was Matt Morris.
22 in 2001.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't
think to many of us are underestimating the Cardinals. They will be in this race till the end. Duncan and LaRussa will squeeze every freaking inch of ability from those players.
Wainwright win 20, I don’t think so, I will go 15-9.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Apr 17, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The left side of their defense wear iron skillets for gloves.
That will be their down
by Employee22 on Apr 17, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
The Cards pitching is sub par. They will not be there at the end. The Brewers might, but not the Cards.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Apr 17, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big win indeed...
Good to see the offense bail out the starting pitching today. Good to see Soriano bounce back from a horrendous set of AB to start the game to get a big hit late.
Was disappointed that we couldn’t punch a few more across early when we had the newby on the ropes in the first few innings. But thankfully the guys kept chipping away.
St Louis is going to score a bunch of runs. If Carpenter comes back healthy, they can compete with anybody in the NL. If Carpenter can’t get healthy, they’re going to need to overachieve (again).
by SouthernCub on Apr 17, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we should have scored more
however, six of our runs came from getting runners on base and pushing them across the plate with more base hits. Most days, six runs wins a game.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree...
The offense was great today overall. I guess I didn’t finish my thought. We didn’t do a great job of punching runs in early, but we did a really good job of punching runs in as the game wore on. Normally, 8 runs is enough for a comfortable win. And it would have been so today had Zambrano decided not to give up HR all over the place.
It was nice to get a win when our #1 starter clearly didn’t have his best stuff working.
by SouthernCub on Apr 17, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
afreakinmen.
it was a scrappy, gritty, annoying difficult, FRAKING AWESOME game.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make sure to get some coumadin this season+cardiac cubs are back
1984, 1988,2003,2008
by blue vader on Apr 17, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
psssht
this is baseball. Some games are going to be like the first game against the Rockies, and some games are going to be like that 10-1 laugher in Cincy, and some games are going to be like this one.
It’s like no other sport.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
But seriously with the way our starting 5 have started and with the way the blow pen has been acting, we will have alot of close games. The plus side is the offense, u just dont know where or who its going to come from, ohhh and i cant wait till they click on all cylinders……………
1984, 1988,2003,2008
by blue vader on Apr 17, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the "blow pen"?
alright…
It’s April 17th. At some point, EVERYONE is going to be clicking on all cylinders.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt that everyone will be clicking on all cylinders at one time...
That’s asking a lot. I’m not sure any team has that luxury, and if they do it isn’t for very long. But there will be times when the pitching is looking really good, which so far hasn’t been the case yet.
by SouthernCub on Apr 17, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alls well that ends well
Zambrano started out great but I knew things would go downhill when he threw his glove into the ground. After that he definitely wasn’t the same.
BUT they came back to win the game, like so many games last year. I’ll be happy to split the next 2. The Cardinals offense is red hot at the moment. I don’t think they will stay that way all year but they are right now.
by jeff_pico on Apr 17, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Zambrano showed yet again today why he isn't an ace
Zambrano is a solid pitcher and an absolute workhorse. But he will forever be prone to the meltdown and the juvenile lapses that prevent him from reaching the echelon of pitchers like Halladay, Webb, Sabathia.
by BLou on Apr 17, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The
throwing of the glove off his hand after he missed the hit up the middle, lends to what you are referring to.
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 17, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Until Carlos can control that, he won’t be an elite pitcher.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 17, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
turning point
This was the turning point of the game for Carlos I think Len and Bob mentioned he had struck 5 in the first couple of innings and didn’t get his next striekout after the glove throw until about 5 innings later.
by jeff_pico on Apr 17, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ram's
two clutch hits stand out in my mind as real big in this game. The man is just an RBI machine. I really like this guy. He has improved so much since we got (stole)him from the Bucs
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on Apr 17, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
man alive.. first time ive been able to make it out to wrigley this year...
and this was the most intense game i’ve ever seen live… Zambrano was in too long i thought.. he started getting hit real hard around the fifth… but he stuck it out.. im really glad i got to use the W flag i got when i was walking into the ballpark… seriously though.. freaking awesome game.
by ThisIsResolute on Apr 17, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soriano's homerun
I just seen the highlights but it looked like he was taunting the Cardinals dugout after. Any word on this?
by china423 on Apr 17, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No he wasn't
He did “You Can’t See Me” gesture John Cena does in WWE. Soriano is a gigantic WWE fan along with the rest of the Cubs.
Now for self promotion: Check out the video I produced with Dempster and Howry last year
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/specialty_clips/santinocasa0821_
by ak123 on Apr 17, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you referring to his celebration as he rounded first?
If so, I think that was him doing the team’s finger wag celebration to Sinatro as he passed him. If you were talking about something else, I have no idea.
by SouthernCub on Apr 17, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
What a day to miss a game! I tell ya though after all the running around I did out here in the land of the sun, (CA), coming home, punching up BCB, and seeing the Cubs won; and in the manner they did – best nightcap I could imagine. Tomorrow will be another great game, just hope I can find a midwest Fox feed… Missed ya’ll in the threads, but it sounds like they were filled with numerous chicken littles… Glad I missed that. Have a great evening everyone!
CUBS WIN!! WOO-HOO!
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Apr 17, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we have any more games like this I don’t think I’ll survive this season.
I go to the cardiologist tomorrow for a checkup (nothing wrong just a follow up on the surgeries I had) and I’m really afraid he’s going to tell me that I can’t watch the Cubs anymore. He’s a diehard fan.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by puckishcubsfan on Apr 17, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Other teams should be so lucky
We have been fortunate to have games like this for the last 3 years at Wrigley. Other teams should wish to get a come from behind win like this at home. Yes it’s nerve-racking but it’s games like this that create memories of the season.
by ak123 on Apr 18, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I concur 100%
rec’d.
"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland
by flachimesa on Apr 18, 2009 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at the game today...
And what a great time. I was at Game 2 of the playoffs last year, and I agree with Al, it felt like a playoff atmosphere out there when Marmol came in to pitch the 9th.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Apr 17, 2009 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing Gregg did'nt come in, gee I wonder why-hmmmmm
1984, 1988,2003,2008
by blue vader on Apr 17, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marmol
hadn’t worked in five days. If he doesn’t get enough work, he gets wild — which we saw, in a leadoff walk and a HBP Pujols.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactamundo drew...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Apr 17, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yo Jimmay!
did you hear the game??? WOW!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, no...
Was on the bus all day… but the bus on the Pacific Coast Highway from Laguna Beach to Newport Beach- so I’m not complaining.
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Apr 17, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great game today
Let’s hope for another win tomorrow. Anyone read the yahoo recap of the game? At the end there was a note with some sour grapes from TLR:
For a second consecutive day, Milton Bradley refused to talk about the third-strike argument that resulted in his ejection from Thursday’s game. Piniella backed his player, saying: "It didn’t look like a good pitch to me." Cardinals manager Tony La Russa’s take: "I don’t know how the Cubs get away with making the comments they make about umpires."
Link to story can be found at http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap?gid=290417116&prov=ap
by LT on Apr 17, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tony LaRussa
has sour grapes shoved up his… well. Every manager makes comments about the umps. The ump squad is filing a report on Bradley. Who is getting away with anything?
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's TLR trying to stir something up.
If Lou’s smart, he’ll ignore the comment.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 17, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lou usually
ignores what other managers say, doesn’t he? :D
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
TLR is the last guy in baseball
who should be saying anything about umps. What a tool.
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 17, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larussa
Must be some previous incident that I don’t recall that he is alluding to, but just let everyone get fined and that is that.
by jeff_pico on Apr 17, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I am sure LaRussa and the Cardinals never bitched at balls and strikes. Jeez Tony get over yourself.
"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"
by Grockcubs on Apr 17, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's spelled L-A-W-E-A-S-E-L
Typical cowardly gamesmanship BS by Tony the Phony. He’s Billy Martin without the cirrhosis of the liver.
by CaliCub on Apr 18, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s always nice to fly my W flag, but when the win is at the expense of the cards,,,,,, happy days
by retire17 on Apr 17, 2009 9:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't
"It was a wise Man that invented Beer" (Plato)
by LarryCubFan on Apr 17, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't stand TLR
TLR is joke. The way the Umps have been calling balls and strikes lately I’m surprised Lou hasn’t blown a gasket yet. The home plate is 17" across. The strike zone don’t start at the ground level and go up into the batter’s eye’s.
"It was a wise Man that invented Beer" (Plato)
by LarryCubFan on Apr 17, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing better
for your birthday than a cubbie win.
A little scary the amount of K’s in the last 2 games (23)
but I can still hear Harry say (CUBS WIN,CUBS WIN) in my head.
by vegasbleacherbum on Apr 17, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Today
Felt like the Fukudome game against the Brewers last year
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Apr 17, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
except we WON! :D
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
I had forgotten that, because that HR was so awesome.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Apr 17, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN
says that Pujols is questionable for tomorrow, due to being hit on the elbow.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 17, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he should have made an effort to avoid the pitch
Umpires need to get some huevos and not give first to people who dont make a good faith effort to avoid being HBP.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Apr 17, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not root for injuries.
Thanks.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2009 5:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll not forget Cards fans cheering when Lee went down in 2006
That’s why I wish no harm on any opponents.
by CaliCub on Apr 18, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Al...
I was sitting pretty darn close to you yesterday, but didn’t make my way over to say hello… It’s such a pain in the neck to move around in the bleachers. I prefer to stay put.
"You win because of the quarterback. We have to get that position stabilized. We're fixated on that." -- Jerry Angelo (12.30.2008)
Jerry Angelo trades for Jay Cutler! (4.2.2009)
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by SackMan on Apr 18, 2009 8:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
As you can tell...
… I usually stay put, myself. Next time you’re there, stop on by.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Cataract surgery yesterday has left me a "visionary".
Really. It was weird.
I had cataract surgery yesterday morning that wiped me out for much of the day. I got up from resting late in the afternoon, came out and the Cubs were tailing by a run in the 8th with Sori up.
My wife was watching the game and I said to her, “This would be a good time for a home run”.
Next pitch. WHAM. A homah!
I went out to start the grill for dinner. I came back in minutes later and it was the top of the 9th, the Cards had two on and one out and Carlos was closing.
I said, “This would be a good time for a double play grounder.”
Next pitch. 6-4-3 DP.
I’m considering playing the lotto today.
I figure after I get the other eye done in two weeks that I’ll have x-ray vision too.. ;)
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Apr 18, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Other suggested comments to make:
“You know, honey, this would be a good year for a championship.”
"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome
by Goodie1969 on Apr 18, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll work on it...
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Apr 18, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Visionary but not as polite
I was sitting next to Dave who knows more about baseball than everyone here put together ( he does not go on blogs etc) and he said
" this would be good time to earn that paycheck" and then Sori smacked it out. Actually I don’t think he said good but you get the point.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on Apr 18, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that is a compliment coming from you
"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver
by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 18, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree on the intensity comment compared to playoff
- but why? I assume you are talking about fan intensity not player intensity?
I think there is more to this than just random events. I can’t quite explain it , but I feel it has something to do with how the event is sold and hyped. The real point is, is there something that can be identified and avoided, so there is a higher liklihood of bringing that intensity in October.
by BatCubFan on Apr 18, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fan intensity, yes.
It felt like a postseason atmosphere. Whether the players felt that or not, I can’t say. But I don’t think I’ve seen a ballpark that jacked up in April before.
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ill be looking for payback today.
I would not be surprised if TLR goes after someone today in retaliation for hitting Pujols. Everybody knows it wasn’t intentional, but Tony is a spiteful SOB. I’m thinking it will most likely be Soriano.
by tedinSoCal on Apr 18, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah. He'll plunk Santo sitting in the radio booth...
He’s THAT spiteful…
…not…
Go Green! Go White! GO STATE!
King Leonidas: Spartans! What is your profession?
Spartans: HA-OOH! HA-OOH! HA-OOH!
by Zeke on Apr 18, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be trying to start a beanball war...
… which would wind up hurting the Cubs more if they take part. Let’s hope they warn both benches before the game.
They discussed this on MLB Network last night. The host tried to incite Mitch Williams and Dan Plesac into saying it was intentional, but both of them — correctly — said it wasn’t. Why would you want to put the potential lead run on base in the last of the 9th?
"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx
by Al Yellon on Apr 18, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Milton Bradley suspended 2 games, will appeal per ESPN
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
by DrCrawdad on Apr 18, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why appeal?
Why not just rest for two days, get back to 100% and play ball?
We're born again, there's new grass on the field. -John Fogerty
by muehlman on Apr 18, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Bradley doesn't play...
… today or tomorrow (pinch hitting does not count in my book either) it does make you wonder.
"People shouldn’t bust your chops just because you’re a Sox fan on a Cub board — but I know it happens. FWIW, I think sites like this are more interesting when fans of other teams join in the conversation." by Shanghai Badger on Mar 13, 2009
by DrCrawdad on Apr 18, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatta bunch of crap.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 18, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zambrano pitched well?
Quite funny, Al. “Aside from the two HR’s to Ludwick and the mistake to Barden”. Huh?
Z turned an early 3-0 lead into a 5-3 deficit in no time, then promptly gave the Cards two more runs after the Cubs had worked back to 5-5. I’ll give you the fact that he went 7 innings, but giving up that many runs…not sure you could say he pitched “well”.
Maybe mediocre, maybe hum-hum, but that’s about it.
In the end, who cares? The Cubs won…all that matters.
I have nothing funny or creative to write.
by Canadian Cubs Fan on Apr 18, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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