Milton

by Comfortably Numb on Apr 19, 2009 7:19 AM CDT Comment 103 comments

I was in favor of the Bradely signing and still like it. You have to be kidding me though with the start he's had. He's already missed games due to injury. He's already been ejected from a game. And in my opinion has already shown selfish behavior by appealing his 2 game suspension (2 games he probably wouldn't have played in anyway) because of "principle" . I understand the suspension is questionable at best, but Milton swallow some pride, be a team player, and take the 2 games now while your not 100% anyway. Having said that, I'd still rather have him then Abreu, Ibanez, or Burnitz.

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Hey, at least he'll be something for all of us to discuss this year.

And maybe soon he can start playing baseball again….

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by zevkalman on Apr 19, 2009 7:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

"Selfish"?

Hardly. First of all, I cannot remember a player suspension that wasn’t appealed — it’s done as a matter of course. Second, I happen to think Bradley is right in this case — the umpire was being far too oversensitive over the tip of a couple of cap brims.

Finally, there are a lot of players who haven’t hit over the first week of the season. Bradley was, at least, drawing walks and contributing.

Incidentally, Jeromy Burnitz retired two years ago. Who mentioned his name as a possibility?

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by Al on Apr 19, 2009 7:44 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs

I don't see it as selfish

But he wouldn’t have played the games anyway. I don’t agree with the suspension, but it was stupid to appeal because he is hurt and wouldn’t have played. I can’t wait until he comes back and starts hitting.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 19, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

And where did you get Jeromy Burnitz?

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by 14theofleury on Apr 19, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Burnitz is mentioned in the original post.

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by Al on Apr 19, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I doubt the reason he 's being suspended

has anything to do with the feelings of the umpire.

by ol Pete on Apr 19, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it has EVERYTHING

to do with the feelings of the umpire.;

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

by lexmarklover on Apr 19, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm guessing he meant Hermida.

Bulls and Hawks winning in the playoffs, Cubs' season off to a fresh start, and Cutler hysteria still simmering?

Just another day in Chicago sports.

by rea5661 on Apr 19, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, maybe.

Hmmm. You think Hermida might look good in the middle of this lineup right now? Just sayin’.

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by Al on Apr 19, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hermida's gotten off to a very nice start.

Hit for the cycle the other day, no? You definitely weren’t off the mark in suggesting he would’ve been a good pickup for the Cubs.

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by dat cubfan daver on Apr 20, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you!

I have a feeling Hermida’s going to have a big year.

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by Al on Apr 20, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Woah - dat's the way AL rolls!

n/m

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by derv on Apr 19, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was not a big fan of this signing

Dunn or Abreu would have been my choice. That being said, He is not being selfish on his appeal. All players or 99% of them appeal there suspensions. And in this case Bradley actually had a beef, he did not throw equipment, his beef lasted about 20 seconds, and the ump blew two calls in his sequence at the plate.
My only concern is keeping the guy on field. Bradley just can’t stay healthy, that is why it is so important that Dome stays on the ball.

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by Grockcubs on Apr 19, 2009 8:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

bradley

6 games and the guy gets hurt.who would have thought. next time hendry needs to look at a players track record and think before he signs him.but this is the same guy who paid prior for 6 years to win 18 games.usually jim is pretty good but everyone makes mistakes. could bradley be one????

by NOMAR on Apr 19, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Completely disagree

Bradley may be hotheaded but I’ve not seen any selfishness. And, I heard an awful lot of crowing from people when he was red hot in Spring Training. Wish we could consolidate the repeat posts out there.

Bradley will hit. My only concern is injuries. I still view him as a good signing, even if he is the Man of Glass.

by Woodstock on Apr 19, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Selfish???

Give me a break. The suspension was absolutely ridiculous. It’s guaranteed to be reduced to one game. In fact, Selig MADE it two games so he could really suspend the guy for one game.

It’s also not just pride. You don’t get paid when you’re suspended. Also, the union wants these guys to appeal these things. I guarantee that every single guy in the Cubs locker room has no problem with him appealing.

And it’s not like the appeal process will take until Game 7 of the NLCS. He’ll likely serve this one game by the middle of May.

And Jeromy Burnitz???? Why not Brant Brown?

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by Worf on Apr 19, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Very True, Mr. Worf

The MLBPA would be all over a player who didn’t appeal. It’s a matter of course.

by CaliCub on Apr 19, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

From now on ...

I want to be referred to as Mr. Worf

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by Worf on Apr 19, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not happening

:-)

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by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 19, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ah, no

by sue369 on Apr 19, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he is a target...

…for the umps.

I betcha they all got together on one day in umpire-ville, sent out an umpire-email, and made the collective umpire-ism that they were not going to take ANY crap – under ANY circumstances – from Bradley.

Then they enjoyed an umpire-tini in the den by the fireplace.

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by derv on Apr 19, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If I were an umpire,

I’d be the one sending that email. This guy has a terrible attitude, and it follows him no matter where he goes. I was against this signing from go. He has had terrible start, has already had a (minor) injury, and has been suspended. The only person at fault for Milton Bradley being targeted by the umpires is Milton Bradley.

PS yeah they were bad calls, suck it up and let Lou handle it.

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 19, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Get over it

He’s a Cub now. Get behind him or find another team.

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by Worf on Apr 19, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whatever (mr) worf

I’ve been a cub fan for over 30 years and you don’t have to like everybody on the team. I love the Cubs but I don’t love having players on our team that make us look bad. Maybe if he did something productive I would get behind him. But don’t sit there and tell me I have to like him or find another team.

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 19, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually

He kinda can sit there and tell you to get behind him or find another team — he kinda already did. And for the record I am seconding the motion. Where on earth do you get, that ten games he is making our team look bad? Seriously, you need to go suck on a lollipop and calm down.

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by StevenABQ on Apr 19, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"after"

ten games is what I meant to say.

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Apr 19, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't say he couldn't,

I told him not to. Anyway you guys are the ones who jumped all over my case just because I don’t agree with Bradley’s attitude on the field. I think Bradley makes any team look bad just by his actions. These are my opinions, and you have yours, we’re all supposed to be friends here. So what if I don’t like him? Once he proves he can produce for the team, I’ll eat my words.

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 19, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok

Fair enough, I’m not jumping on your case because hes not your favorite player. I’m jumping on your case because you can’t see how ridiculous this umpire situation is. Like him or not, its not fair. I also think you are absolutely wrong in saying he has a “terrible attitude”. Thats not what his teammates have said. Maybe you should get to know more about Bradley and the specific situations involving him and his “terrible attitude” — you might reconsider your hasty judgment.

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by StevenABQ on Apr 19, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually can,

I’ve been telling people a few times that yes, they were indeed bad strike calls! I even said so in my first post. But I guess what you guys are helping me realize, is how I should have phrased it the first time… I think it’s the manager’s/coaches’ job to get on the umps when their strike zone is the size of a 747 and moving every pitch. Not the players. Any player should have been pissed about it but most would say a few things and then get on with the game.

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 19, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats reasonable.

I could be wrong about Bradley — but its early and I think the guy deserves an honest shot at being a well liked member of the team.

"Ask Dad. He'll know. And on the off chance he doesn't, he'll make something up"

by StevenABQ on Apr 19, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

how is he making the team look bad?

he has amazing discipline at the plate, and frankly, I trust his eye to call balls and strikes better. If Milton Bradley doesn’t swing at it, I’m gonna bet it’s a ball.

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

see above

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 19, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

anyway let's all just

cheer them on tonight and agree to disagree on Bradley for now.

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 19, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

seeing above

doesn’t answer my question.

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't like how he

usually has to make some kind of scene when things don’t go his way.

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 19, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

um.

well, ok. I’m not sure that’s a supportable assertion, but you’re entitled to the opinion.

The at bat contained of at least two terrible strike calls. I think Milton did the right thing.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you, at least partly

Yes they were bad calls (which I had said in my first post) but I think it’s better left to the Lou or the coaches to take on the umps; man up and get on with the game, like the other players on the field. I understand players argue calls sometimes but Bradley was losing his mind out there. Which he is well known for doing.

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 19, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Again

Its comments like this that give credence to all the lazy sports writers that say Bradley is a “cancer” on a team. Hes not crazy and hes not losing his mind. In certain situations during his career, he has gotten upset and yes, made what one could call a scene. But its not as though he is begging for opportunities to fly off the handle. Some players don’t argue balls and strikes, and some players do. With Bradley, I think there is solid evidence to prove that he seriously knows the diff, so I say its justified — spirited? Yes, he is not D-Lee.

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by StevenABQ on Apr 19, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

but Bradley was losing his mind out there.

I don’t think that’s a supportable assertion either.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I haven't seen a supportable assertion yet

And I still say that once the player is signed, he’s a Cub. You support him. I’m sick and tired of people cheering failure because it validates their opinions.

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by Worf on Apr 19, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So I can hold you to this position moving forward?

I have no real desire to search through past posts, so let’s keep it simple. From this point on, every comment you make about Cubs players – yes, even Neal Cotts – will be positive and supportive?

Can it be – rainbows, kittens, and Worf?

Me likey… ;-)

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by ballhawk on Apr 19, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely

You may hold me to the position that we should support players.

We should wish for players to get better if they are doing badly. We should want them to improve. And if they simply cannot improve or if there is a better option, we move on.

We should NOT want them to fail to validate our opinions that they should not have been signed.

I get frustration. I do. But I am so sick and tired of people celebrating every error by Theriot because they wanted Tejada; or every blown save by Gregg because they love Kerry or every issue with Bradley because they didn’t want him signed.

That is no longer a valid response. They are Cubs.

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by Worf on Apr 19, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

once you're a Cub, you're a Cub all the way

dah daaaah dah dah daaaaaah dah daaah da da da da da!

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Spot on

He also makes his teammates better, hell when you average 6 pitches per AB, everyone is going to see the ball and the pitches better.

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by StevenABQ on Apr 19, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

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by EJThunder on Apr 19, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ha ha ha ha

Seriously? There have been several players I didn’t like that have played for the Cubs. I never liked Sosa for one. Not liking a player on the team has NOTHING to do with supporting your team.

by __Sean__ on Apr 20, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I believe the point he is trying to make is that you don’t have to like them, but you should never be hoping they fail just to live down to your expectations.

by redward on Apr 20, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll agree w/ that

Hoping to see someone fail is just miserable.

by __Sean__ on Apr 20, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

just to be clear,

nowhere did I say I hoped he failed. I said it would be easier to support him when he starts putting up numbers like everyone knows he’s able to.

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 20, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is that really supporting him?

Because that sounds like the definition of a fair-weather fan. People need support when they’re struggling, not when they’re firing on all cylinders.

by redward on Apr 20, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you tell your wife

I’ll love you, unless you chunk up!

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by Worf on Apr 20, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No but...

That’s how I keep your wife in line!`

LOL!

J/K bro!

by __Sean__ on Apr 20, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree

there were a slew of bad calls yesterday, and Bradley didn’t start. The umps are out of control.

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Than Abreu?

If we’re going to base this on the first 11 games or so, then no way. I’d take Abeu in a heartbeat in that case. The Angels are thrilled with him so far.

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by BeerCub on Apr 19, 2009 9:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Injuries, yes I do not like that

But the ejection from the game was oh so worth it considering how terrible that ump treated him

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by Chanman25 on Apr 19, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

disagree

Milton needs to prove that he was a great addition but I disagree that he has proven to be selfish. I think the comment is preoccupied by the way he played at Texas, Oakland etc. But I do agree that since he missed some games with the injury he should’ve stayed composed even with that ridiculous call and avoid making matters worse for the team.

by emhigh on Apr 19, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I gotta tell ya - I disagree with conventional wisdom here

I know, I know… everyone says Paradise Lost was his best work. But I’ve been following him lately and I’m starting to come around that maybe his treatise condemning censorship, Areopagitica, is the better part of his game. Too bad his manager, Ollie Cromwell, never saw it that way.

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by ballhawk on Apr 19, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Ollie Cromwell

was a hack.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

A guess-conquering hack?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 19, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Micah Hoffpauir

could be a better ruler of England than that.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Micah Hoffpauir

Is a 29 year old PRINCE REGENT.

by redward on Apr 19, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is Bacon a free agent next year?

How long should we give sig lines at the bottom of the comments?
Bradley watch -- out 3 games of 11

by znohitter on Apr 19, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Free bacon, what? Where?

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by dat cubfan daver on Apr 20, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Hey Hey Hey... it's FAAAAAAAAAT Fielder!!!"

I think free bacon would convert Prince back to a carnivore and lure him to Wrigley.

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by ballhawk on Apr 20, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

To clarify…I like the Bradely signing, is personality should be a bonus with this current group…..I have know doubt he will hit…..it’s just interesting that all the negatives about him seem to have occured in the first week….selfish might have been the wrong term, but swallow the suspension since you’re hurt anyway was my point…also the Burnitz comment was meant as a joke, sorry for the confusion.

by Comfortably Numb on Apr 19, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

These quad injuries happen all the time...

…..we should all be happy that this isn’t a knee injury or anything broken. He didn’t even need to go on the DL, PLUS, the team has done adequately without him.

And PLEASE don’t use his slow start as a way to slam him. The guy is seeing the plate pretty well now, even though he’s not gotten on base. All it will take is a 3-4 game / a couple hits here and there and he’ll have an average that looks more like his usual.

He has every right to appeal this suspension if he feels he is right, and I think he’s right too. I don’t understand why people are questioning his decision to appeal. Part of me thinks that this is an attempt, by Milton-haters (start a club whydon’tcha) to find another way to utter the word “I told you so.”

IT’S EARLY… so shut up and enjoy Cubs baseball and cheer for your team.

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by EJThunder on Apr 19, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

My head is now

Un-Comfortably Numb after reading this post.

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by StevenABQ on Apr 19, 2009 3:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

There is no pain...you are receding...

…a distant poorly written Fanpost on the horizon…

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by dat cubfan daver on Apr 20, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

All in all you're just another ledge in the wall.

How long should we give sig lines at the bottom of the comments?
Bradley watch -- out 3 games of 11

by znohitter on Apr 20, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you don't eat your peas, you can't have any pudding.

How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your peas?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 21, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

meat

how can you have any pudding if you DON’T EAT YER MEAT!

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 21, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You, lad! Yes, you! Stand still!

How long should we give sig lines at the bottom of the comments?
Bradley watch -- out 3 games of 11

by znohitter on Apr 21, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know it's meat.

At home with the young’uns, I say this all the time with peas.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 22, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I honestly believe Bradley will be fine.

If this was a highly-touted rookie, I might be worried. But Bradley has a track record that says he’s going to hit. Unfortunately, that same track record also says he’ll get injured, but he just needs to relax and play. He’ll be fine.

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by ctcoff99 on Apr 19, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

A pissed off Bradley shall be a highly productive Bradley

The suspension will prove to be a gift from MLB. Bradley plays exceptional when he has a chip on his shoulder. I do not agree with his selfish decision to appeal the suspension when he is already on the shelf to begin with, and neither does Lou if I’m correct in reading between the lines.

by BLou on Apr 19, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I do not agree with his selfish decision to appeal the suspension when he is already on the shelf to begin with, and neither does Lou if I’m correct in reading between the lines.

What lines are you reading between to come to that conclusion? It costs us nothing to have him appeal the suspension, and really, why shouldn’t he? The ump was WRONG.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I ask

because if you listen to Lou in the video from this fanshot:

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/4/18/843973/lou-piniella-on-milton-bradleys

it’s not at all clear that Lou doesn’t agree. “The individual and the club believe” that it’s a heavy penalty to pay for the infraction.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bradley is already out, so he should take his medicine...

MLB is very doubtul to overturn his suspension if history is any sort of a guide. Get the two games done with now while Bradley is already out of the lineup recuperating.

by BLou on Apr 20, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

non-answer.

Please provide your insight into why you think Lou disapproves of Milton’s decision to appeal.

Bradley’s “suspension history” is irrelevant.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 20, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't you think Bradley and the Club are

concerned about any future run in? If they accept this and don’t fight, it is perceived as a guilty plea and could have negative impact on the next one.

With another player, the “next one” is unlikely, with Bradley…

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 20, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Show me a time when MLB has overturned a suspension

At most, MLB sometimes shaves a game from a player suspension. But in this case I doubt they will do that given…

A. Bradley’s hat did come in contact with the umpire, and the rules expressly state that is a no-no.

B. Bradley’s infamous history of run-ins.

by BLou on Apr 20, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right, but the outcome isn't the point.

Bradley probably feels a need to put up a fight because he knows this won’t be his first run-in with the umps this year. He likely wants to convey a message that he – and the Cubs – aren’t just going to roll over when umps like Vanover pull their crybaby crap.

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by dat cubfan daver on Apr 20, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

a-freakin'-men.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 20, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's a guy that likes to have his side heard.

Why close him off and anger him? Mike needs to decide if Bradley is a good player who he wants pacified and producing or if he wants him pissed at the world.

I want pacified with a ridiculous OBP.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 20, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not sure what you are stating has anything to do with what I wrote.

A. Correct, but a very minor infraction. Appeal, have it reduced to 1 game and make certain all know it was minor. Bradley is pleased to get himself heard and the judgement reduced. Happy Gameboard.

B. Documents this was minimal and unintentional. Happy Gameboard.

You would prefer the club tell him to sit down and shut up, piss him off, and have him pout for the next few months?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 20, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

BLou

seems to think that a pissed-off Gameboard is a productive Gameboard.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 20, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bradley is GUILTY by definition of the rule that thou shalt not come in contact with an umpire

His hat touched the ump. It’s right there in black and white, hence why he is being suspended. There is no challenge to the touching of the hat because the evidence is clear. So what exactly then is he appealing???? Next time he touches an umpire with his person or body of clothing he is going to be in equal amount of shit for being a repeat offender. Appealing the suspension doesn’t serve a purpose.

by BLou on Apr 20, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bradley seems to like having

his side of the conversation heard. Let the man speak, let Uncle Bud reduce it to 1 game and all walk away happy having spoken their peace.

Why would you praise the signing and then want to piss off the guy who failed anger management class?

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 20, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

sure it does

it tells the umps that the Cubs won’t be pushed around, and that when the umps make bad calls, they’re going to get flack for it.

Also, appealing the suspension will get it reduced.

Also, he is right in PRINCIPLE. The calls were terrible.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 20, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 20, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lousy strike calls doesn't condone bumping an umpire

The “crime” of bumping an umpire with bill of the cap is right there on the videotape. How in God’s green earth do you appeal the crime when the evidence is plainly there? A lousy strike call by the umpire is not justification for the crime. Hence why Bradley is doubtful to get out of this suspension (or have it reduced). Appeal of the suspension will stir up the umpires too. If you think Bradley was screwed over by the ball and strike call, just wait until he returns. These umpire assholes have LONG memories and many love metering out vendettas.

by BLou on Apr 20, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"CRIME"?

I don’t think that word means what you think it does.

You still haven’t answered the question of why you think Lou disapproves of Bradley’s appeal.

Also, intent matters. It’ll be interesting to revisit this topic if and when the suspension is reduced.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 20, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Every player has a right to an appeal.

Whether or not the suspension is warranted (I believe on is on the letter of the rule), has nothing to do with whether or not Bradley can appeal.

Bradley wants to appeal. His Team President, GM, and Manager understand that telling Bradley to serve and not appear will hinder their relationship with their player and his performance may suffer.

You’re off your nut on this one.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 20, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is appealing the fact that he was given a two game suspension...

for incidental contact with the umpire. Bradley is well within his rights to do this, and the suspension will likely be reduced to one game. Enough said.

I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...

by Jimmyeatworld on Apr 20, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn, I clicked hoping to see

the original Milton in all his photoshopped glory.

Bradley argued balls and strikes, therefore was tossed. The frikkin hats touched, stupid, but mandatory suspension. Refrain from judging Bradley until he actually does something.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 20, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

GOTTA AGREE

With Mr. Worf…..Bradley is a Cub now…Not on any other team…..Forget the past please . It was a bad call …..Let"s get behind this guy……We are only one week into the season and fans are already trying to get his neck in a noose…….

by cubs north on Apr 20, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Milton?

He doesn’t look like the selfish, arguing type. More like the “where’s my paycheck” and “I’m gonna burn this place to the ground” type, or “where’s my stapler” type.

I could be wrong.

Jackie likes the smell of cut grass, he used to play ball on Saturdays, Playin in the sun...

by PacificCub on Apr 20, 2009 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs