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Came across this article. Though I don't particularly care one way or the other about the Nationals franchise, this article really irritates me. A ball player doing something for the community should be seen as a positive, especially a ball player with a troubled past like Dukes.

To be honest, I hope Acta does get fired after this.

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Does a fantastic job of laying out just what a classless, incompetent, and soulless organization this is.

I’ll add one. Did they even offer to cancel the game after Harry Kalas died? Or did they just say, “Roll his carcass over and get someone else to call your game?”

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by Worf on Apr 19, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

The Kalas thing isn't fair.

I think the Phillies wanted to go on and play. But the Dukes situation is, as the title said, ridiculous.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't know

How ridiculous this was. I’m sure Acta feels great now that the guy they got to replace Dukes for the game broke his ankle on a great catch. Not saying that Dukes would have avoided an injury, but you have to believe that with him in center it’s a different story.

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by cubs0505 on Apr 19, 2009 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Acta's a tool

who’s obviously starting to realize his job is hanging by a thread.

It never ceases to amaze me how supposedly intelligent people can completely overreact to something this minor. The PR fallout alone has got to have Acta wondering what he was thinking.

by bluekoolaide on Apr 19, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Wait, what?

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe the Cubs could get an endorsement deal out of something similar

I can see it now Soriano wearing “CBS”

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by Archie on Apr 22, 2009 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only positive about this....

is the entertainment derived from watching a complete idiot have to publicly squirm and spin to explain his actions or comments after doing/saying something stupid. I always enjoy that. But other than this brief bit of entertainment, is there any wonder why, with a lunatic like Acta in charge, that this franchise is where it is?

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by ctcoff99 on Apr 19, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

+1

Outrageous.

I don’t know if anybody noticed this last night on MLB Network: their crawl reported this story, and it said the team had fined Duke “$500K” for being late to the ballpark. I almost crapped my pants and had to jump online to verify it.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 19, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

$500 not $5000

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by flachimesa on Apr 20, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

can Duke appeal the fine?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 19, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

You're late for work

Your boss is going to be pissed even if you have a good reason.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 19, 2009 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Not just a good reason

This was an event sponsored by the company in which said company encouraged participation amongst their employees. Dukes didn’t show up and say, “got stuck in traffic.” There’s a big difference between what you are talking about and what happened with Dukes.

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by DTJchris on Apr 19, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus....

according to the article he was five minutes late. Even in a company-sponsored activity in which employees are encouraged to participate, when it’s time to be at work, you have to be there. I understand that. But it’s not like he was an hour late. According to the article, he was five minutes late. As a boss, you have to enforce the rules, but you have to have some common sense while doing so.

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by ctcoff99 on Apr 19, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

just about every company gives you a 5 - 10 minute window

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 19, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

An hour? Sure. But five minutes can be accounted for by missing a couple of lights in traffic. Manny Acta is a moron for doing this, and makes the Nats organization look like idiots.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying the punishment wasn't extreme

but every boss i’ve ever had gave you a minute or two unless you’d called in earlier to let them know you weren’t going to be on time.

This punishment seems to be excessive. But I don’t know everything so its hard to tell.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 19, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The biggest issue here is character development. Dukes has a troubled past and to see him do some charity work is great…and his reward is a fine and a possible demotion. If the Nationals cared at all about the future of their franchise they would encourage this and not slap people on the head for it.

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by dtpollitt on Apr 19, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

A small fine might be justified but to threaten demotion and bench him?

I think Dukes should go to the union and fight this.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 19, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's really pathetic is that his "troubled past"

might have had something to do with the severity of the reaction.

Would the shit have hit the fan the same way if it was Adam Dunn or Ryan Zimmerman who were five minutes late?

by bluekoolaide on Apr 19, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

you mean in the same concept......

if Reed Johnson got tossed for arguing strikes and balls it would not result in the same reaction as Milton Bradley?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 20, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

Hopefully the players union will actually do something useful for a change and help him fight this fine.

Maybe it was the Nationals bad scheduling of this event that made him late as well!

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 19, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions  

The event was NOT sponsored by the Nationals

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by flachimesa on Apr 20, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Note!

I edited the title. The original title was “This is just ridiculous” — which tells you absolutely nothing about the content. I hope the headline I used gives everyone an idea of how you should title your posts.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 19, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Living in the DC area...

…there’s a reason I’m a FORMER season ticket holder beyond how easy it is to walk up to the window to get tickets for literally any game. The Lerners literally have no clue.

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by Chris Dobbertean on Apr 19, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sure the rest...

of Elijah’s teammates were extremely pissed off that he was 5 minutes late after helping out with a Nats sponsored little league event.

Way to let down your team, Elijah.

/sarcasm

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by EJThunder on Apr 19, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

FWIW

ESPN reports that it was NOT sponsored by the team. I still think it’s stupid to have fined him; they also report that the Nats have told him that if he’s late again, he’ll be optioned to AAA. I’d be calling my agent and suggesting that I want to play for a different team.

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

team sponsored or not

Dukes, as a Nat, is still increasing community good will toward the team.

by Cubinator on Apr 20, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 20, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if....

… someone with Dukes’ contract status can demand a trade. Still, you’re right, the agent, player, manager and GM should meet to hash this out. It makes the organization look like idiots.

You can bet that, presuming Dukes is good enough, he’ll leave DC as soon as he is eligible for free agency.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 20, 2009 3:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Bridge = burned.

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by Archie on Apr 22, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I disagree with the majority here

They appear to have a strict rule about what time you must show up. He broke the rule because he was doing charity which apparently was not team sponsored. Acta made it clear that he was punished because he broke the rule. Acta also made it clear that they want him to do charity work, that it is encouraged, but that he should do it at a time that does not conflict with the time they pay him to be at the ballpark.

Perhaps threatening demotion seems a bit extreme, but Acta is trying to set groundrules on a team that has seemed to have very few in the past.

by Texas Wahoo on Apr 19, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Except that Acta has been around for 3 years now

Did he just decide this year that he wants to “change the culture” of the Natinals [sic]?

The whole organization is a joke. It is a bit irritating because the poor attendance is going to reflect on the DC area and their ability to support a major league team which right now this team is not.

by rlpete on Apr 20, 2009 6:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

and this is also the third team in the DC area for MLB

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 20, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow

Rules are rules, but the punishment should fit the crime. Surely doing a good deed that makes the team look better should be a mitigating factor in sentencing. If Acta gives a rip about those little leaguers then maybe the punishment should have been more community service with them and, for discipline purposes, having Dukes spend a game on the bench.

by Cubinator on Apr 20, 2009 12:59 AM CDT reply actions  

at the very least

the fine money should go to that LL team that Dukes got fined for being with too late to get to the park.

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by Tekboy on Apr 20, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

The initial punishment was appropriate but...

the fact that if he is late again they will send him down to AAA is absurd. I get the fact that they can’t excuse non-team sponsored obligations because though this was for a good cause you need to have structure, and they can’t evaluate each event on its “worthiness” for being late. That is just not realistic. But to count it against him and say that the 2nd time will result in being sent down seems crazy

by BeltwayCubsFan on Apr 20, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

The problem is that it sends the wrong message.

Yes, teams have to have rules, and reporting to work on time is a reasonable rule. But to do something this draconian for reporting five minutes late (which could easily be explained by missing a couple of traffic lights or getting stuck in unexpected traffic) sends the message: “We’re going to be rigid and uncompromising about this, even if you have a good reason and were doing something positive.”

Smacks of zero-tolerance rules, which almost never work.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 20, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I bet this will help them attract free agents

or get players to waive a NTC to join the Nats

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 20, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is over the top

threatening demotion?? Dukes is a great player who has been worth ~3 war in 600pa’s and is just going to get a lot better. I know my other team had to get rid of him for the safety of women in Tampa particular reasons , but he’s doing charity work for heavens sake. This fine is going to hit him hard too, whatever the amount, in the off season there were papers filed that he couldn’t afford his child support to the four women who have given birth to his five children, because he was broke (like most mlb players he gets paid only during the season).

Kaz/Shields/Garza/Sonny/Price/Davis/Hellickson-necessitate a drool cup or a 7 man rotation

by CubFanRaysaddict on Apr 20, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Beyond ridiculous.

The guy even states as much in his justification:

“And it was a bizarre situation, because he was doing something that we encourage our players to do: He was out in the community doing something for some Little League program and just showed up late to work.”

It was five minutes. Five.

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by neverAcquiesce on Apr 20, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

If Dukes

is trying to straighten out his life, these idiots obviously are doing nothing to help. I think MLB needs to examine this type of management behavior, and set some guidelines.

Good thing it was only $500.

"I lof to hit de home ron!"

by Tekboy on Apr 20, 2009 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Furthermore

when a manager benches one of his best players for such a stupid reason, it shows me that he will put his “agenda” above fielding a team that has a better chance of winning a particular ballgame. As they say, you can only win one game at a time.

"I lof to hit de home ron!"

by Tekboy on Apr 20, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

it would be different if he had shown up

with a needle in his arm, while drunk and lied about it……

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 20, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions  

i heard we was at the little league event

looking for his old friend Lastings Milledge. No worries Elijah, he wasn’t demoted that far down.

by BeltwayCubsFan on Apr 20, 2009 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I think this is an indicator of a soon to be meltdown of the Nationals organization...

     Let’s see, they sent Milledge down to the minors, and then they scratched Duke from the line-up Saturday after threatening to send him down to the minors and fining him for being 5 minutes late to a team meeting because he was at a charity event (which they encourage the players to do). Then after Sunday’s game, they sent Josh Bard (one of the back-up catchers) and one of the bullpen pitchers down to the minors and designated two other bullpen pitchers for assignment. My guess, Manny Acta is losing control of the team and this is how he’s trying to regain control. I think Acta should go, but that’s just my opinion.

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by brook on Apr 20, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I suspect Acta will be fired soon.

The entire organizatino seems dysfunctional.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 21, 2009 4:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

wtf?

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on Apr 20, 2009 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

The Great Falls Little League says it will pay the fine.

The little league is more functional than the Nationals.

by Otsu48 on Apr 21, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

VIA ESPN

The Great Falls Little League, where he was speaking prior to the game, says it will pay it for him after a fundraising effort, according to the Washington Post.--link

Kaz/Shields/Garza/Sonny/Price/Davis/Hellickson-necessitate a drool cup or a 7 man rotation

by CubFanRaysaddict on Apr 21, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

A class move -- but I certainly would hope that Dukes would politely decline

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by Shanghai Badger on Apr 21, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not only a class move...

But one that should make the Natinals feel about two inches tall.

Those jerseys still bother me. Hell, they might as well have had “Chico’s Bail Bonds” on the back.

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by Worf on Apr 21, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

The weird part about the jerseys is....

… neither one of the players noticed? They could probably have gone to the gift shop and taken a couple out of there. Or worn their road uniforms.

How no one could have noticed this before the game is beyond me.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 21, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

if they weren't wearing the uniforms as issued

Acta would have fined them.

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by drewishdrewid on Apr 21, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

only if they

gave them to underprivileged DC youth.

Kaz/Shields/Garza/Sonny/Price/Davis/Hellickson-necessitate a drool cup or a 7 man rotation

by CubFanRaysaddict on Apr 21, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure that they'd have their road uni's ready to go

And the entire team would have had to do it

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by Shanghai Badger on Apr 21, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The correct response would have been

a $100 fine to be given to the Great Falls Little League. This is one pathetic orginization.

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by Doggie Stalker on Apr 21, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure I understand this.

Why do you say that?

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by Al Yellon on Apr 21, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not ?

A $100 fine would show that he did a little something wrong and give something back to the Little League team. Seems fair to me.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 21, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh.

I thought you were calling the little league a pathetic organization.

A donation to the little league would be a good idea.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 21, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um on the other hand

He was being PAID $500 to do the event ? I kind of missed that. I still think the reaction was excessive but why did he need to be paid ?

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 21, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Where do you get that?

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by Worf on Apr 21, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is in the link above

posted by CubsfanRaysaddict. I would re-post it but my cut & paste is having issues. It does actually make the $500 fine seem approriate though.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 21, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

That absolutely changes everything

Dukes charged a Little League $500 for an appearance?

That’s not charity work. That’s a paid appearance. He was basically five minutes late to his real job because a second job made him late.

Now, I get that $500 is probably less than the going rate, especially given what he did that day, as laid out in this link. So in a sense, he gave them a deal.

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/20/AR2009042003203.html

But again, you aren’t being charitable if you are being paid.

I’m OK with a fine. I’m OK with a benching.

The original link that started this thread mentioned nothing about the $500 appearance fee. I hadn’t clicked on the other link.

I’ve done a 180. The Natinals are a loser organization, but for the media to gloss over that he was paid for this is pretty galling.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 21, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Worf

To be fair The initial article did not mention the payment, and in fact today’s post on the same blog did (i posted that link above). ’Duk wondered if any minds would change about this.

I for one still think this whole thing was a bit ridiculous. I mean most jobs allow quite a bit of flexibility in arrival times. Sure he was late to meeting, but the Nats need all the promotion they can get and if their players can be seen doing community centered things then they really should think twice about punishing them, even if they are doing it to supplement their income.

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by wax eagle on Apr 21, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't consider getting a $500 appearance fee

Doing something community centered.

Again, this might be the going rate. This might be common practice. But I don’t have a problem with a team expecting the players to do this on their own time and ONLY their own time.

I think a $500 fine is perfect. You’re going to be late because you took a paying gig? Hand it over.

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by Worf on Apr 21, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i am on the fence with this one

I agree about the fine to offset the $500, but there should be a window to allow for traffic, but if you are making the contracts of a pro athlete there is no reason to be late to practice, and so on.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 21, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Clearly, he knew when he had to be at the park. I’m guessing he just ran into some unexpected traffic. The benching was far too severe.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 21, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jobs are flexible in arrival times -- but not when there is a meeting scheduled

In essence, that’s what he was late for. Now that I’m aware of the appearance fee, I’m not on Dukes’ side so much anymore.

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by Shanghai Badger on Apr 21, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think maybe this is a reaction to...

some of the other stories, which made it seem like Dukes was being fined for rescuing abused puppies and bathing the open sores of lepers, all for free.

We also don’t know if he tried to call ahead. I mean, that’s the courteous thing to do in the real world.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 21, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

or what caused him to be late

did he catch an old lady jumping from a burning building, did he hold up a bank…i am sure he left with ample time to arrive to the stadium on time, but what caused the delay?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 21, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

He charged an appearance fee

when virtually every other athlete who’s done work for this Little League group has done it for free. And they’re going to raise $500 more for him?

Both Dukes and the Nationals look like fools. Screw ’em both.

by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 22, 2009 2:11 AM CDT reply actions  

He must have needed

to pay his child support. I agree. Screw ’em both. They deserve each other.

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by Archie on Apr 22, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

This was not charity.

He was late for his moonlighting gig and had to stay to get paid and was then late for his main job.

He deserves no sympathy.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 22, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

There are 3 stories here...

…The Natinals guy that overacts to a player being 5 minutes late (for any reason), that guy needs to check himself…The Media reporting the story incorrectly initially and leaving out the paid appearance (there goes your bad boy trying to make good angle)…and the third being that the Player wasn’t at fault for being 5 mintes late BUT there’s nothing compelling in this story to suggest he’s being “reformed” when 1) he’s getting paid for charity work and 2) He’s apparently going to let the Little League work to pay his fine? Maybe he’s already stepped up and said he won’t accept any funds from them (I sure hope so). if not, then that’s the biggest part of the story to me (the guy’s a tool if he lets them work for him to pay that fine.)

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Cubs By The Numbers is a history of the ballclub by uniform number, but the biographies help trace the history of our beloved team in a new way. For everyone who's a Cubs fan, anyone who ever wore the uniform is like family. Cubs By The Numbers reintroduces readers to some of their long-lost ancestors, even ones they think they already know.

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Managing Editor

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Front Page Contributors

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Other Contributors

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