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Advice for a father-to-be

My wife is expecting. We're due sometime during the NLDS.

Here's the deal.

I married a Cardinals fan. We started dating in July 2006 and a few months later, the Cards won the World Series, so I figure I saw the absolute worst I'm ever going to see.

We joke around about it. We have matching shirts. Hers has the Coca-Cola logo and says, "Choke" and then says "1908 wasn't THAT long ago"

Mine says "Harry's Watching" and on the back says, "He STILL hates the Cards"

(Speaking objectively, hers is much funnier, but in another few weeks, she won't be able to wear it and I'm not buying a maternity version)

Her approach to the baseball season is to ask me around Aug. 1 how the Cards are doing. If the answer is less than 5 games off the lead (or in the lead) she pays attention.

However, her father (and my parents, by the way) are both rabid Cards fans.

So, the grandparents won't be on my side. The mother of little Tupac or little Shakira is against me. We live much closer to St. Louis than we do Chicago, so our child's first game will almost certainly be at Busch.

What do I do?

Friends of ours had a baby in August a few years back, during a Cards-Cubs series. They are another mixed marriage and they decided that whoever won that's who they would push the kid to be a fan of. The Cards won and the father (the Cubs fan) is trying to renege on his end of the deal now.

My approach is that I want the kid to be a baseball fan. If they choose the Mariners, Rays, Angels, Brewers or even Cardinals, fair enough.


At least that's what I tell my wife. I'm secretly planning on telling the kid that Al Hrabosky hates Elmo and Albert Pujols once killed a bunny rabbit!

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You knowingly married a Cardinal's fan...

you should have to figure out this problem all on your own. Sucker.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 20, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought I could change her!

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 20, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Men marry women hoping they never change

Women marry men hoping they can change them…

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Apr 20, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Now we understand why he’s always in a bad mood on here. Anyone with 1/2 a brain don’t crossover to the dark side! Ahh but congrats on the little one. Don’t miss a minute because they don’t stay a baby long.

I didn't get the players I wanted in the offseason!! Hopefully I get what I want in the Regular Season---The World Series Trophy!! Go Cubbies!!

by cubsluver22 on Apr 20, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couples

I know a Sox/Bears fan who married a Cubs/Packers fan. They actually wrote it into their wedding vows!

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 20, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

let the kid decide

expose the child to Cubs games and Cards games. Make sure they do little league (if they want). Que sera sera, dood. :P

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 20, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

yup

"I've actually never had a drink before, tonight I might try it out. We'll see."
—Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw, on turning 21

by obc2 on Apr 21, 2009 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

So, wait, YOUR parents are Cards fans, too?

How did you end up a Cubs fan in the first place?

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Apr 20, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Rebellion mostly

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 20, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't push.

Let it happen naturally. My dad’s a Cardinals/Steelers fan. I’m Cubs/Bears. My brother is White Sox/Cowboys.

On a related note my brother just had a little boy and I’m going to do my damndest to make him rebel against pops and wanna be like his “cool uncle.”

remember
Sammy Jankis

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 20, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

What? Worf, you married a Romulan?

Well, maybe your offspring will be “The One” that ends the war and unites these two worlds.

Then again, maybe Junior will run away to Ferenginar and be a Sox fan…

Congrats!

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 20, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Does that make the Yankees the Dominion?

And the Red Sox the Borg? Or the other way around?

The Natinals must be the Tribbles.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 20, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

ahhh the irony of all this

i say let the kid decide on his own. If you try to push him to one team or anther he might walk away from baseball.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 20, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Congrats

Congrats to you and your wife!

You aren’t planning on naming the baby Al?

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 20, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

You know what to do

"It's been my policy to view the Internet not as an 'information highway,' but as an electronic asylum filled with babbling loonies." - Mike Royko

by DTJchris on Apr 20, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Odd question

is Babyworf first grandkid on either side?

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 20, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions  

No

Second on her side, fourth on mine. Our first.

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 20, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool. Best wishes to all. One of the reasons I asked was the first grandchild is usually the leader of the cousins and if you made your baby a Cubs fan he could turn all his/her cousins Cub fans :).

My oldest was the first on both sides. He is the undisputed leader when the cousins all get together. Also it’s his personaility.

Also on your wife’s side if your baby is the opposite sex of his/her cousin he/she will be a leader too.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 20, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congratulations Worf!

Call me a “teamist,” but I could never had married someone who didn’t root for the Cubs.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 20, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

This is easy

When you play catch make sure you wear Cubs clothing.
When your wife plays catch let her wear Cards clothes.

The kid should catch on pretty fast

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on Apr 20, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

So you willingly entered a mixed marriage.

You have the duty as a Cubs fan to raise your child properly. It’s as simple as that.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 20, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Just don't raised the child as a "moran"

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Apr 20, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 20, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm talkin' about

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Apr 20, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

It’s a brilliant piece of documentary photography.

"[I]f we get a Jumbotron, I can't pull the instant replay thing on all the rookies. Every time there's a good play, we're like, 'Oh, look at the replay,' and you get the rookies to look at the scoreboard." - Ryan Dempster, 2 January 2009

by CaughtInTheVines on Apr 20, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the very least...

make sure they learn to spell!

Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand. - Homer J Simpson

by MikeOxbyg on Apr 21, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't count on it

They learn to count at Blues games.

Some dork sounds a bell for each goal of the game shortly after they’ve scored each goal. The arena full of ass-clowns count along like they were watching big bird then all yell together in unison as if they just won the lottery.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Apr 23, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That guy gets around...

He’s been popping up recently in the political comic strip “This Modern World.” The artist doesn’t put the Cards shirt on him—drawing’s too small—but we know the truth.

Before each game, please remember to feed the bats.

by Cool Hand on Apr 22, 2009 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

this pic should be made into t-shirts

for the Cubs/Cards series

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try to sneak in a Cubs-inspired name into the middle name...

That’s what I did with my newborn. My wife made the mistake of giving me the naming “rights” to the middle name, so I went with CLARK. I told her about what that name means only after we signed the birth certificate.

You could tell her that Sheffield is the name of your great-grandfather or something, then slip the news after the first year or so.

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 20, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Honest, honey, my great-grandfather's name is Kosuke

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Apr 20, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

I was thinking Mordecai or Orvall…..

"[I]f we get a Jumbotron, I can't pull the instant replay thing on all the rookies. Every time there's a good play, we're like, 'Oh, look at the replay,' and you get the rookies to look at the scoreboard." - Ryan Dempster, 2 January 2009

by CaughtInTheVines on Apr 20, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Name him Ryan

then slip the doc $20 to “mistakenly” spell it Ryne.

remember
Sammy Jankis

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 20, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Proud recipient of a hot dog shot from the Iowa Cubs hot dog gun.

by IowaCubs- on Apr 20, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

My sister and brother-in-law have a similar situation

Neither one of them will buy the children sports paraphernalia so the kids, when they start liking sports, can make their own decisions. Grandparents are allowed (and each set of g-parents likes different teams).

by Arbusto on Apr 20, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey, Worf, congrats!

Didn’t know you had it in you, but fatherhood is great!

Don’t forget to put his/her name on the season ticket waiting list.

Again, congrats!

"I knew we were in for a long season when we lined up for the national anthem on opening day and one of my players said, 'Every time I hear that song I have a bad game.'" - Jim Leyland

by flachimesa on Apr 20, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Best of luck

Nothing better than being a Father.
 It will work out, wear your Cubs gear, talk the Cubs, and God willng a Championship this year will top it off.

"Have You heard of the Boom on Mizar 5?"

by Grockcubs on Apr 20, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

This will be the test.

If you can get your child to like baseball, you’re early season interest will convert him.

Sounds like you will have 60-90 days each season before redbird interest comes around.

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 21, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buy the cutest Cubs baby and kids clothing (and get your friends to do this also).

She won’t be able to resist the cute outfits. Before she knows it, the child will be a Cub fan!

Congrats on the upcoming addition to the family!

Hey, it's a new century!

by cowsarecool220 on Apr 20, 2009 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Compromise

Make him a fan of the St. Louis Browns. It shouldn’t be too long until the toddler can fit into an Eddie Gaedel jersey.

I’m going to refrain from comparing the Browns’ logo to a baby klingon…

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on Apr 20, 2009 4:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Solomonic genius

The Gaedel onesie will be a smash..

We can pitch in and create an inspirational kid’s book about Pete Gray, and maybe Santo’sWoodenLegs will make a poster of George Sisler to hang over the crib.

"[I]f we get a Jumbotron, I can't pull the instant replay thing on all the rookies. Every time there's a good play, we're like, 'Oh, look at the replay,' and you get the rookies to look at the scoreboard." - Ryan Dempster, 2 January 2009

by CaughtInTheVines on Apr 20, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

You definitely have to give him a hand for that reference.

Plus, “onesie” makes for a nice pun on Gaedel’s career line. I didn’t realize, btw, that Gaedel was born in Chicago, which really makes him perfect for Worf’s split family. A Chicago native, who played only in St. Louis, and was a perfect hitter, unless you think of him more as a base-clogger.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on Apr 20, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

better yet...

a Gaedel “one-eighthsie” reference would have been worth +1000 BCB points

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 20, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dang!

you’re so correct…..and I think that deserves a hundred or so right there!

"[I]f we get a Jumbotron, I can't pull the instant replay thing on all the rookies. Every time there's a good play, we're like, 'Oh, look at the replay,' and you get the rookies to look at the scoreboard." - Ryan Dempster, 2 January 2009

by CaughtInTheVines on Apr 21, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keep the child away...

from Star Trek.

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Apr 20, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

My child will be a Star Trek fan

His or her mother can’t stop me there!

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 20, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ll have to ask my fiends Steve and Kellie where they got some real cool Star Trek stuff for their baby. It’s gender neutral too.

I like all the series but am married to a serious Trekker. He goes to his convention and I go to Trixiecamp, it’s our compromise.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 20, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the attitude you need...

with a fandom in question.

Free Ronny Cedeno

by Kansas25 on Apr 20, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Star Trek and the Cubs. That’s the ticket!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 21, 2009 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Make it so this is the year"

— Captain Jean-Luc Santo

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on Apr 21, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

shouldn't that be

Captain Jean-Lou Santo?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 21, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I bet I could talk her into

Odo!

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 21, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought we established on a recent gamethread...

…that Battlestar Galactica is much more effective.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Apr 21, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

plus, if Worf has more kids

they’re easy to name.

Number 1
Number 2
Number 3
etc…

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 21, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

If he has twins it becomes really creepy.

Related: my brother named his son after a character on Firefly.

remember
Sammy Jankis

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 21, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

which one?

River? Book? Captain Tightpants?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 21, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

please say Jane

Oriole by nurture. Cub by marriage.

by wax eagle on Apr 21, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

First and middle name is Malcolm Reynolds.

He told me he was contemplating it and I was onboard immediately. His wife wasn’t completely for it so my brother, my parents, and myself all took to calling him Mal (and Lil’ Cap’n) so they’d have no choice.

remember
Sammy Jankis

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 22, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

Awesome…Now when they grow up they will be able to tell their friends they were named after a character from the most awesome prematurely canceled TV show of all time…

Oriole by nurture. Cub by marriage.

by wax eagle on Apr 22, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

And my parents have a dog named Serenity so when he visits them in July they can get a picture of Mal with Serenity.

remember
Sammy Jankis

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 22, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Twice

Twice prematurely cancelled. I am a serious BG geek, Both series.

I have watched it so many times the original series when they used to show reruns in spanish on channel 26 I could recite the dialogue.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 22, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're not talking BSG anymore

Now they’re talking Firefly.

Which WAS prematurely canceled. I love that show.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops

Flew right over my head. Agree on Firefly as well !

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 23, 2009 6:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

The new BSG wasn't cancelled.

It was allowed to end on its own terms.

Now, whether you agree with those terms is another matter entirely.

remember
Sammy Jankis

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 23, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

blah

actually, I still think that they wanted to go five years, and Sci-Fi said “four or nothing”. To much was glossed over in the second half of season four.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 23, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't buy that.

Aside from pro wrestling, BSG was the highest rated show Sci-Fi had. So much so that they got them to do an upcoming movie (The Plan) and subsequent series (Caprica). I think they would’ve taken as much BSG as they could get.

remember
Sammy Jankis

by neverAcquiesce on Apr 23, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily

Re-booting with Caprica saves money on the actors and gives you a chance to bring in new audience who couldn’t keep up with the BSG mythology.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on Apr 23, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to assume you're being facetious when you say
little Tupac or little Shakira

If not, I would worry less about your child’s chosen baseball team, and more about their simmering resentment of you.

But congratulations, and good luck.

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome

by Goodie1969 on Apr 20, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...

Elvis and Priscilla are also possibilities…

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 20, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why not Kirk?

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 20, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oops just remembered Worf was TNG. How about Jean Luc Picard Your last name?

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 20, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was shocked

at how many “mixed” marriages I saw at Wrigley friday and saturday. A lot of husband/wife, girlfriend/boyfriend couples with Cubs/Cards shirts on. I suppose it could happen to work out. I married a non baseball fan and turned her into a Cubs fan.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Apr 20, 2009 6:47 PM CDT reply actions  

My best friend is married to a Sox fan. “I married a Sox fan” sounds like a horror movie.

When I was in college I took a broadcasting class and we had to do a parody of a tv show.

Our group did a parody of Geraldo (I’m dating myself this was the late 80s) and we did “Men who are Sox fans and the Cub fans who love them”

You saw me in a corner all darkened out saying “We met in November, we danced, we had dinners. we went to movies, he liked my family they liked him, I liked his family they liked me, we shared the same religious beliefs, we both loved the Bears then I found out the awful truth hee’s aaa white sox fan!”

My Dad told me I could bring home a man who was a different religion, different race, different political party, heck I could decide to go the other way and bring home a woman but NO CARDINALS OR PACKERS FANS! (A sox fan sould be okay possibly as long as he was also a Bears fan).

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 20, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just hope the kid is an NL fan

Imagine if the kid liked the DH rule!

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 20, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions  

DCFS will show up

if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand

by N Oakley on Apr 21, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congratulations Worf!

I’d say with the next, oh, 10-20 years of World Series victories for the Cubs, your new baby will make the right decision on his/her own! As for names, I like Ernie Banks Worf (last name here)… what could possibly go wrong?

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 20, 2009 7:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Either way, make him a switch hitting catcher

as that seems to be the easiest rout to the bigs

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Apr 20, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

well if he bats Lefty

and we can convince Lou to wait a while, he might get a shot for that reason alone

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 20, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teddy bears.............

Lots of teddy bears (in uniform, of course!).

I had the same issue with the wife being a Cards fan, but I managed to flip her away from the dark side.

"I still don't know what happened"- Fergie Jenkins on '69

by tommy veryzer on Apr 20, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Be careful

My cousin and her husband had a baby a few years ago. They live outside of Milwakee. My father and I bought a build-a-bear to give as a gift to the kid, complete with Cubs outfit. That didn’t exactly go over well…

by Hilary Lee on Apr 20, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd Just MAKE DAMN SURE that first game is at wrigley

if he/she is younger than four, you can get away with this, but living in central illinois, i have a family split right down the middle of Cubs/Cards fans, but dad taking me to my first game at Wrigley was what took the cake.

P.S. My first game was at old busch when i was like 8 months old but you know i dont count that garbage ;-P

Funny how loneliness sounds so good, until you hear the echoes of your soul burning a hole in your shirt. -DJM

by heine41 on Apr 20, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

OT: Anybody ever hear of someone being flipped from a Cubs to a Cardinals fan????

Funny how loneliness sounds so good, until you hear the echoes of your soul burning a hole in your shirt. -DJM

by heine41 on Apr 20, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

There seems to be an article like this in some local newspaper every year.

IIRC, there was a story of the opposite circumstance – a Cards fan “converting” to Cubs fandom – last year.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by daver on Apr 21, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is why

I’m only interested in dating guys who are either Cubs fans or fans of AL teams.

by Hilary Lee on Apr 20, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Get the baby a Cubs binky!

..and teach the little one to root for Pujols except when playing against the Cubs. That should be a nice compromise and by the way Congrats and God Bless!

Life is a crazy game of poker

by Steve Sax on Apr 21, 2009 3:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Thought of this driving to work today,

Being a father 3 times over, make it a life lesson… something like this: “Son, a bear cub and a cardinal are stranded on a desert island with no food…”
“Dad, couldn’t the cardinal just fly away?”
“Never mind that, dammit! Now. There’s no food, eventually they’ll both get hungry. When nature calls, would you rather be the bear? Or would you rather be the bird. Don’t let life eat you alive, son.”
“I love you Dad!”

by Fonzie2178 on Apr 21, 2009 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

The life lessons of being a Cubs fan...

I’m bringing my kids up as Cubs fans. One of the reasons (I tell my wife) is that being a Cubs fan is not only a badge of honor, a country-wide community, and a good time, it’s also fertile ground for teaching a primary life lesson that many kids need to learn today — patience. In life, you don’t always get what you want when you want it, nothing conveys that truth better than being a Cubs fan. So, when you think about it, I’m teaching them how to be better citizens of the world — just as all Cubs fans are.

I've told you a million times never to exaggerate!!

by pscrblazer on Apr 21, 2009 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Seriously

Thats true. I can take a loss in anything in life because I’ve been so used to the feeling. Doesn’t mean that losing doesn’t bother me, just that I can handle a loss like a man.

by ChiCubs23 on Apr 21, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

the real simmering question will be

what happens when the child suggests that the mound needs to be lowered.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 21, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

His first words are going to be

“Technical Balk”

There is no such thing as an ugly female breast

by Worf on Apr 21, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Take out the garbage, son!"

“Pound sand, Daddy!”

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by daver on Apr 21, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 21, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

My sister is married to a Cardinal fan

He is nice and all but still I consider it a “mixed” marriage ( actually his side of the family can actually READ Hebrew but still I don’t mean that kind of religion). They live in Northbrook and my two nephews are CUBS FANS. To be nice they tell their dad that the Cardinals are their " 2nd favorite team" , HA. Anyway IF you live in the Chicago area you should not have much to worry about. Once my younger nephew who is a RABID fan got upset that his father would not let him spend $50 or more to get a Kerry Wood autograph ( he already had one) and said very angrily " YOU WON"T LET ME HAVE IT BECAUSE YOU ARE A CARDINAL FAN" but that was an isolated incident, they generally get along fine. I am sure your little Cub fan will understand that Mom had a deprived upbringing but you will make sure that does not happen to them.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 21, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

After careful consideration...

…I’m going to give you some good news, Worf. You may come out on top on this one. The tipping point is the fact that your wife is so ambivalent about the Cards. Your son/daughter (we haven’t established a gender, right?) will likely pick up on your intense passion for the Cubs and follow you into the ivy.

That’s kind of what’s happened to me. My situation is a bit different – my wife is not a fan of baseball or sports in general, so there was never any danger of my daughter wearing Cardinal red or Brewer blech. But it’s possible she could’ve followed my wife down the road to ambivalence. However, as she’s gotten older, my daughter has really picked up on my passion (read: obsession) with the Cubs. She can tell they make me happy (sorta, usually), so, in turn, they make her happy. Thus, she appears destined to be a Cubs fan, too. (Then again, she is a girl, so she’s bound to break my heart at some point.)

So I would say just let nature take its course and you should be fine. Then again, when he or she is older, you may want to point out that, no matter how many ice cream cones those Cardinal-loving grandparents buy him or her, he or she still has to live under your roof.

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by daver on Apr 21, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Daver

for your own good, I feel the need to share with you my sister’s story. My father, bleacher regular for many years now, pushed the Cubs on his children. I, while enjoying my younger days in the mid eighties at Wrigley, took a bit of time to come to terms with my passion (also read: obsession).

My sister on the other hand, DESPISES baseball and has no interest whatsoever in the Cubs.

I too have a daughter (3 y.o.) and she was going good with the “GO CUBBIES!” and sporting the gear…then all of a sudden, daddy decided to turn on the Cubs game one day amidst a very gripping episode of the Backyardigans, and what I heard echoed an eternity…“I DON’T WANT TO WATCH THE CUBS!”

After I took a second to pick my jaw up…I realized, I injected my passion (again read….oh whatever) into hers and the adverse reaction was to be expected.

Lesson: Women, no matter what their age, are volatile and can be damaged by small, seemingly harmless acts. When in doubt, back off, I have and well…I haven’t heard that ghastly phrase since but , you never know.

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Apr 21, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, believe me, I've been there.

My daugther is six now and, though she loves the idea of the Cubs, she has precious little patience for actually watching the games. If I have a game on, it’s only a matter of time before I hear, “Can we watch something else? Can I watch a show now?” And I’m like, “But…but…it’s only the fourth inning!”

One comproise I used last summer – and we’ll see if it works this one – is having her watch one of her DVDs on our laptop while I watch the game. Something tells me she’s not going to settle of the smaller screen for much longer, though. Of course, I’d be more than happy to watch the game on the computer if I wasn’t blacked out from mlb.tv, but I digress…

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by daver on Apr 21, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Max is

at ten, only now getting the patience to sit through more than a few innings.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 21, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm more at the point of pitch count than innings!

Consider yourselves lucky!

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Apr 21, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still, I bet her pitch count is greater than Rich Harden's.

HIT ME!

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by daver on Apr 21, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Noooooot Bloody Likely!

Sorry just felt like sayin that.

Kwa...Ki...Sur...Pee...Nee...Ku?

by Kinky Reggae on Apr 21, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Daughters

I think it depends on how you introduce baseball into your children’s life.

For me growing up baseball, hockey and football were intertwined with being with my Dad (my parents were divorced when I was 4) To be perfectly Big Frank he had no idea what to do with us when he had us for visitation. So we went to Wrigley. Soldier and the old stadium. Also the way we got to know my stepfather was the summer of 77 at Wrigley (another reason that season is so special to me). (he and my mom married in 78. He passed in 98).

But it wasn’t forced on me.

Our kids love going to Wrigley Field. But here’s the twist my oldest who’s middle name is Payton loves baseball more but my youngest who’s middle name is Santo loves football more! My middle one is a girl and I don’t know any baseball or football players named Mary (her middle name). And so far my oldest while too young to show for sure obviously has shown the most ability of the sports he plays in baseball.

Little girls can be raised to be baseball fans. I am a testament to that and as far as I know the other women here have been baseball fans since they were little.

Don’t force it on the kids make it an activity you can enjoy together. Get them a little more involved than just watching the game. Keep a scorecard and teach them how to make it out. If they don’t take to it at first don’t push just make sure they know the seat next to you on the couch is always open.

Okay show of hands-anyone when they were teenagers find the one thing you could always talk about with Dad was baseball or other sports when you were going through typical teenager/parent problems?

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 21, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still to this day

The one thing i can always talk to my dad about it what is going on in the sports world. I hope my son grows up to be a sports fan for this very reason. It is always common ground. But until he knows better we have a Cubbies outfit for him, and he will probably attend his first baseball game this summer (Hes only 7 months old, so he wont care that its at Turner Field). Hopefully between the Lookouts and Braves we will get to a few games this summer. Probably when the Smokies are in town, and definitely when the Cubs come in June.

Oriole by nurture. Cub by marriage.

by wax eagle on Apr 21, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right, the key is not forcing it...

…and just letting the kid’s natural interests evolve. Like I said, more often than not, kids pick up on what makes their parents’ happy and are only too willing to join in on the fun.

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by daver on Apr 21, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a girl,

and my mom was the Cub fan in the family. I remember coming home from school and the game would be on. For a while I would protest because I wanted to watch Dark Shadows! But genes will win out in the end. God knows there’s a dominant Cub gene. Maybe like someone else said it’s going to Wrigley. My first game I was 9, and we all know Wrigley is magic. I took all of my 4 children to Wrigley when they were very little. Rob was only 2 weeks old, and he’s the most rabid fan. My oldest daughter (horrors!) is a huge Nationals fan and even does their commercials on MASN. At least she’s passionate about baseball, and is conflicted when they play the Cubs. So take the baby to Wrigley early and often!

by mlern on Apr 23, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I found the Cubs pretty much on my own......

but growing up in Green Bay, dad had 3 daughters. I LOVE FOOTBALL AS MUCH AS DAD, my one sister couldnt give a damn about it, she remembers going to training camp as a little kid and not enjoying it. The other sister, kinda falls in the middle.

It’s also worth saying I’m the only tomboy in bunch.

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 21, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Movie

Wouldn’t “I Married a Cardinals Fan” make a great horror movie title?

Think about it, a young man named Worf is quietly going about his life, loving Star Trek and the Cubs when into his life suddenly appears a beautiful young lady who is sweet in every way. They share the same taste in movies, books, have similar outlooks in life but he finds out the awful truth and it’s too late SHES A CARDINALS FAN!

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 21, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

It's simple...

Buy 2 jersies…
if it’s a girl get one brand new spiffy Cubbies jersey and an old second hand ratty Cards jersey…

if it’s a boy reverse that…

- Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
- Germans?
- Forget it, he's rolling.

by Endrick on Apr 21, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't even open that can of worms

even a ratty shirt can get them thinking as they start to understand things.

One of my wife’s aunts bought one of our kids a Packers outfit for the infamous 1st b-day party. Not only would I not accept it in my home I told my wife that if she ever considered dressing any of our kids in anything except ChiTown stuff – minus the team 9 miles south – it would be a very, very, very, very big mistake. She and the rest of her side of the family “now understand”.

To this day it’s Bears, Blackhawks and Cubs stuff ONLY.

Sweet Lou for Mayor in '11.

by blackhawk24 on Apr 23, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know what to do...

Your wife will be exhausted after having the baby. Bring a small Cubs baby blanket to the delivery (secretly). Wrap the baby in it after he/she is born. TAKE PICTURES !!!!

by coral on Apr 21, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

or cover his wife with a Cubs blanket

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 21, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

A little advice from a woman

A little advice to help make Mrs. Worf happy.

Take walks where you talk about the future. It’s good for her (unless the doctor says no of course).

Sometimes she’ll get a little goofy it happens but let her be goofy.

Go to the doctor with her. Enjoy it all.

Do little things to surprise her when she least expects it. Especially as the big day approaches. You’ll be surprised how even what seems like the smallest thing can mean a lot.

Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.

by puckishcubsfan on Apr 21, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Harry's watching...

Love that! Where did you get that shirt? I’d like to buy one!

by kanderber on Apr 27, 2009 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Block access to this website in your home

For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint.

by Less is Walrond on Apr 28, 2009 12:30 AM CDT reply actions  

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