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"Win Series": Cubs vs. Reds, Wednesday 4/22, 7:05 CT

So far in 2009, the Cubs have played four series prior to the current one. They have won three of them and split the other. Do this all year and you're looking at a 95-win season; win today and you've already won the current set with the Reds.

Lou has preached this for a couple of years and I think it's gotten through and is established in the mindset of the players. We can argue about Lou's lineups or bullpen use, and we do, legitimately so, but there is no doubt that his presence has changed the culture in the clubhouse. And that's exactly what this franchise needed.

Bruce Miles says ignore all the Samardzija speculation:

The speculation has centered on right-hander Jeff Samardzija, who is in Iowa's starting rotation. Samardzija pitched well his last time out, but it does not appear the Cubs will bring him up right away.

I'd agree with that. The bullpen has had its stumbles, but to me it seems that Jason Waddell would be the one to replace the stumbling Neal Cotts, if there is any replacement to come soon.

Both of the NL Central managers who have been in town during this homestand say the Cubs should be division favorites:

"[The Cubs] have a really good club and they're the team to beat," [Tony] La Russa said over the weekend when his Cardinals played at Wrigley, "but every series you play within the division will be competitive and difficult."

Agreed. The Reds have their pitching issues, but they have a potent middle of the order. For more on the Reds from their fans, see our SB Nation Reds site, Red Reporter.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Ted Lilly
Ted Lilly
Cubs
vs. Johnny Cueto
Johnny Cueto
Reds
2-0 W-L 0-1
3.86 ERA 4.22
11 SO 12
2 BB 7
4 HR 1
vs. Cin -- vs. Cubs

Johnny Cueto was 1-3 vs. the Cubs last year, with a 4.68 ERA, although he struck out 23 Cubs in 25 innings. That's the most innings and K's than he had against any team, so the Cubs ought to be familiar with him. Ryan Theriot is 7-for-14 vs. Cueto and Geovany Soto 5-for-11 with a homer. Aramis Ramirez has also homered off Cueto and Alfonso Soriano has two HR; Milton Bradley, who may return to the starting lineup tonight, has never faced him.

Lots of Reds have homered off Ted Lilly but Joey Votto has a pair of them and 8 RBI in 13 career AB off Ted. Keep Votto down and Lilly has an excellent shot at winning tonight's game. Too bad Votto isn't a catcher; Ted would know exactly what to do with him in that case. Ted allowed four homers to the Astros in his first start, then nearly threw a no-hitter vs. the Rockies. The chilly weather tonight should be more conducive to pitchers. We hope, for Ted's sake, anyway.

Today's game is a cable-only affair on CSN Chicago and FSN Ohio. For online links or other games see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

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Twittermeyer

says the Shark is coming up, Viz DFA’d.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

cheater

you couldn’t have possibly read the whole post that fast ;-)

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I did read it that fast.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah the Shark will be in the water

Don’t know why but he is coming to save the day/Lou’s head from exploding.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Vizio's appearance last night was a goodbye kiss?

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 22, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

give away his $3.5M?

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok that made me laugh out loud.

Lou: hit Aramis 3rd for the love of everything baseball.

by kylejo on Apr 22, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I still don't get this.

Maybe Lou really wants to make sure the Cubs shut down the Cards this weekend. Of course, that’s assuming the Shark will pitch effectively.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 22, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im still

not believing what Im hearing. Viz hasnt been bad, and why flush that much money down when he has been servicable and you can ride him for a few more weeks.

Oriole by nurture. Cub by marriage.

by wax eagle on Apr 22, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don't get that either

At least Al still owes me a Slurpee . . .

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 22, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of tweets.....

ballhawks last one was pretty funny

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 22, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh thank the Lord for pregame thread

Recap was starting to get erally really slow.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't even go in.

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWHS

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWHS

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 22, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You missed a good time

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That

was probably one of the funnest re-cap threads I have seen in my short time here

"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg

by gwood on Apr 22, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 22, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know whether to be proud or ashamed of that thread

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 22, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm proud

That was a lot of fun.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A correction on Al's TV info:

The game is on CSN+, meaning it’s on CLTV in Chicago and DirecTV channel 666 in SD and 666-1 in HD.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Milton back tonight

Hot-headed Cueto on the mound, and of course Ted Lilly. Should be a good night for the Cubs

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by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Off to the bar - I might join y'all on the slow phone

Later, kids.

"I owe [Dunston] a lot. Nobody would know how good I was at digging balls out of the dirt if it wasn't for him..." -Mark Grace
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root

by Clutch16 on Apr 22, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yankees win it in the bottom of the ninth...

Melky hit 2 run walkoff HR.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

ninth = fourteenth

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't get this new math.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 22, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its kinda like

9=8 and 09>08…you just have to kinda smile and nod and know that everything will be ok in october

Oriole by nurture. Cub by marriage.

by wax eagle on Apr 22, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the Ted Lilly Method son

You don’t understand it. You just nod in agreement.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is Tednesday

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I like that.

He gets you over the hump with a killer change-up and the utter demolition of a catcher or two.

I've committed to tweeting about the Cubs for the rest of the season. (Does that sound as ridiculous as I think it does?) Anyway, if you're on Twitter, you can follow me here.

by dat cubfan daver on Apr 22, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And the pirates beat the marlins...again.

Cubs play the marlins next week.

why should I care about the yankees/oakland game?

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 22, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuck I hate Marlins games

In fact I choose not to watch Cubs-Marlins games. So I guess I’ll be taking that weekend off of Cubs games

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's the matter Colonel Sanders?

Chicken?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I’m afraid of my head exploding in anger.

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by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just noticed I have tix for two games that series, but...

…my sentiments EXACTLY.

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you wanna give those away or something...

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why care?

Because the new Yankee Stadium is quickly showing itself to be Coors Field East.
If not worse. The starters ERAs will be fun to watch

by chitownhawkeye on Apr 22, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With all due respect

If Home Run Derby is what you’re interested in, then that’s fine, Coors Field wasn’t even in the top 10 in home runs surrendered last year. Can you guess what was #1?

Coors is great for hitters because it’s got a ton of green space, not short fences or thin air or dry air or whatever.

Mark my words, starter’s ERA at Yankee Stadium won’t be any worse than at the hinthint Cell.

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 22, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't that make the balls drier?

let me save y’all the trouble.

TWSS

yeahyeahyeah

:p

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 22, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would not have guessed that

And I have no interest in a HR derby. I just like it when the Yankees lose. At some point (like right now), it’s going to occur to me that all the stadium really does is help Jeter and A-Rods HR totals.

by chitownhawkeye on Apr 22, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on that one

love it when the Yankees lose. I guess what bugs me more than anything else about his Home Run business is that it’s just another way to keep the Yankees on the front page. As if they don’t get enough undeserved press.

oh, and giving Coors a bad name. It’s a hitter’s paradise – but not a ‘power’ hitters paradise, if you know what I mean….;)

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 22, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

swept them!

the world! it’s all topsy turvy!

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A win today would be the

cats pajamas

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A win would be kitty sweet.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure LaRussa and Baker say we should be favorites

In Baker’s case it’s true, but even if the Cards were more talented and deeper, which I don’t believe they are, LaRussa would say it and use it as motivation.
Still, respect is always nice.

by chitownhawkeye on Apr 22, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

GO CUBS GO!!!

I really like Ted’s pictures it looks like he’s about to giggle or something! Well I’ll be listening to pat and ron tonight at work, and hopefully tomorrows recap thread will be just as much fun at todays! GO CUBS GO!!

Guy at bar: "Do you just like that hat or do you like Chicago?"
Me: "I'm in Love, Obsessed and Addicted to the Chicago Cubs!"

by KC in OK on Apr 22, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I forgot to mention it in the other thread

But Al could you please please please change Harden’s picture.

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 22, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mets/Cards on ESPN tonight

Why can’t both lose?

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least one team does lose

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope

They play a long extra inning game, so both bullpens are shot and the Cards are feeling the aftereffects by the weekend…

Oriole by nurture. Cub by marriage.

by wax eagle on Apr 22, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just want them

to split the series.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 4-0 this year at in-person Cubs games...

…time to make it 5-0. See ya at Wrigley!

"Pounding sand since 1982...."

by cubswynn on Apr 22, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Smell bad baseball in the air?

Thats because I think I just heard the Aaron Miles is playing tonight. Shoot me now.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Link?

Why rest LBR today?

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was on the radio

So I don’t have the link, but I heard the words Aaron Miles.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leave Tiny Helton alone!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only he hit like Helton

or like Helton used to hit. Then I might leave him alone.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs


……

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is no denying that they look alike

Perhaps those who do like Miles can become friends with this gentleman

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

That video is life-changingly fantastic.

I’m not sure what’s better: that video, or the 6 minutes he spent on the treason of So Taguchi…. :)

by CubsWin!Oregon on Apr 22, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I would suggest exploring some other videos of his

The real shame is that when Edmonds came to the Cubs he went on a tirade for the ages. Unfortunately too many Cubs fans mocked him for it and he took it down. If I ever manage to find it I will post it.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sit down for this news

He is married. I will admit to watching way too many of his videos.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're kidding!

he looks like he’s 12.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can watch his videos...

but you can’t watch a Cubs/Marlins game?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His videos entertain me way too much

His Cubs-cardinals one from Friday is a classic fan meltdown. Cubs-Marlins games make me meltdown like that, which isn’t as funny for me.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This quote is more telling than the splits

From the Cotts page:
bq. To Neal "The Meal" Cotts: Ever since you acknowledged our cheers from the bullpen two summers ago, our hearts and pants haven’t been the same. You will always be a White Sox to us!

He’s sabotaging us from the inside.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The goatee DOES look Helton-like.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

egad

Pat just announced him. Bugger.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jason Waddell

Is this guy some kind of proven vet that i have never heard of? What makes anyone think he wouid be any better than Cotts? I understand Cotts is in the outs with many, but really, to suggest this guy with no proven track record will do any better.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Apr 22, 2009 5:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he has ice water in his veins.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No he

does not. Nobody does, I am pretty sure you can not live like that.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Apr 22, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what?

everything BLou told me has been a lie!

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cotts threw 8 BALLS in a row

My niece could do better. And she isn’t very good at baseball.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll bet Waddell can throw a strike

At this point that is all I ask for

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Cotts is terrible.

If anyone wants to see something hilarious, check out Cotts’ splits from last year in August and Sept/Oct… Neal Cotts is bad at baseball

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 22, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That OPS against at Wrigley

.938- Yikes

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by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is more telling than the splits:

From the Cotts page:
bq. To Neal "The Meal" Cotts: Ever since you acknowledged our cheers from the bullpen two summers ago, our hearts and pants haven’t been the same. You will always be a White Sox to us!

He’s sabotaging us from the inside.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"You will always be a White Sox to us"

They is good atz grammr

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 22, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quote from Hendry

“Jeff will be here tomorrow, he’ll be in the pen. Marshall is not leaving the rotation, and Neal Cotts is not getting sent out.”

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 22, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you know it is bad when they are saying Cotts is safe

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotta be Vizcaino now

or Patton

#34: You'll be missed!

by Chanman25 on Apr 22, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Logic suggests that Marshall moves to the pen

Patton is returned

OR

Vizcaino is traded to someone like Angels, Braves or Nats

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Apr 22, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why would they give up Patton

after setting aside room for him?

Besides, he’s better than Cotts.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since this is pretty quiet--

OT:
The Tribune fired many great, dedicated, professional, intelligent journalists today. Many of them are friends. But they kept Sullivan. There is no justice in this world.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Please tell me Phil Rogers was one of them

Wait you said intelligent journalists, damn.

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by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

He’s still in. And so is Kass.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why wouldn't Kass be?

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its tough out there

Wish them all the best.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been a newspaper reader

Every day (almost) since I was a child. When I moved here, one of the first things I did was subscribe to the paper. I went with the Trib because of Royko, who we were fortunate enough to have in my local paper growing up.
Over the last several years, and accelerating recently, the Trib has become much worse IMHO. Less content, and the content there is weaker. While there are still some in-depth research articles, such as the recent Crestwood tainted water situation, much of what there is I can easily find from other sources.
The sports section has always bothered me, mainly due to lousy columnists and horrendous Big 10 coverage, outside of Illinois and Northwestern, and even those are often substandard.
Money is tight, and circulation is down, I know that. But perhaps the problem is not just the internet. Perhaps part of the issue is that papers aren’t providing what we want, which is information that we want and identify with that is reasonably presented and analyzed. After all, while many of us read the Trib or Sun Times Cubs coverage, who else here gets the bulk of their analysis here? I know I do.

by chitownhawkeye on Apr 22, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, this is a topic worth an entire Fanpost...

Not just a thread in here…

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 22, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BRAVO!

How very well said! There’s really nothing else to add.

I have been trying to cancel my subscription since early March, when my guru and grad school advisor Jeff Lyon was ousted, to no avail. Just today, I spent half an hour on hold and had to hang up.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know...I saw the ATF busting into a house by me last week...

…and I went to the Trib website to look for a number for a tip line…guess what? They don’t have one!

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are too busy with Facebook and Twitter

Have you seen their crap there?

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would they need "tips" from us mere civilians?

Everyone knows professional journalists are head and shoulders above everyone else when it comes to gathering and reporting the news. This is why blogging is dying out so fast….no credibility and no “professional training”.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said.

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

It requires at least four years of school training to be able to share your thoughts with the world. Newspapers will last forever.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Six in my case...

but I’m employed in the evil side of journalism: public relations.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since every one of my friends is a journalism student

I have no problem with journalists, just the ones that think they are better than normal people. Also I don’t like Phil Rogers.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am fascinated by the paradigm shift in journalism...

…from traditional media to the blogosphere. It truly is an amazing time to be around.

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem in that shift is finding a way to get paid

Few people actually support themselves—let alone a family—with blogging. That’s why whomever figures out the business model that shifts the establishment around will forever be compared to Hearst or McCormick.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been working on that ;-)

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Hamilton love fest on ESPN

In other news: Rick Reily irritates the hell out of me.

Time to find something else to do.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He is nauseating.

Gets paid millions of dollars to write 500 words every week.

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 22, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually WGN needs lose all games to CSN

I like watching games on DirecTV that are in HD

by Employee22 on Apr 22, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I'd get to watch zero games

That would really suck.

More games on basic tv service.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and he is a lefty

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineup via Gameday

Fonzie
Dome
Lee
Bradley
Rami
Soto
Riot
Miles
Lilly

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lilly's hitting 9th?

He won’t be happy

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 22, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If there was ever a player that Ted should hit in front of

Its Aaron Miles

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fonty is slumping and needs to sit a few games

this is why Miles will be a valuable contributor

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Apr 22, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont disagree at all

its just that as of right now miles has shown nothing…tonight he’ll probably go 4-4 with 3 RBIs and a SB

by kodypuckett23 on Apr 22, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fonty's bat looked slow last night

no big deal

Piniella: "This is a tougher job than I thought it would be, I'm going to be honest with you."

by Ivy Walls on Apr 22, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"valuable contributor"?

he’s a warm body. He’s contributed very little

Men write many fine and plausible arguments in support of monarchy, but the fact remains that where every man in a state has a vote, brutal laws are impossible.

by BoVandy on Apr 22, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He WILL BE

a valuable contributor.

It starts tonight. (I hope)

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fonty , indeed

is in a slump. But Lou – why the rush to Bradley? We have The Hoff! And, he is “hot as a pistol”. I’d just as soon let the groin heal.

by The E-Man on Apr 22, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Per Hendry on WGN Radio

Roster move will be announced tomorrow when Spellcheck gets to town.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 6:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Spellcheck?!!

HAHA! I think it is interesting that we all have our own interpretation. lol.

by The E-Man on Apr 22, 2009 6:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You've never seen that one before?

Really?

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is blind?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can't be serious.

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry HBCG

didnt realize i was saying that to your reply about him. hope you didnt ake it out of context

((hides under desk, praying))

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude

Blind jokes are not a big deal.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they're out of sight!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

didnt know if i was streaking on thin ice with it

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beware HBCG when she's angry...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sick Wayfarers.

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on Apr 22, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just be original

All I ask.

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am sure she'

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

still better safe than sorry.....

better tio make sure its cool, not taken the wrong way

and NO Thats Not What She Said

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know what channel CSN + is on Comcast?

I have comcast and I’m in Chicago but I can’t seem to find it.

"It was a tough first 10,000 wins. I hope the next 10,000 are easier."
-Ryan Theriot

by lindz221 on Apr 22, 2009 6:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

try CLTV

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CLTV

Don’t know the number though.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im in Austin, TX

and lat time I was in Chicago it was Channel 40…..but that was 9 years ago on the North Side

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still channel 40 too!

"It was a tough first 10,000 wins. I hope the next 10,000 are easier."
-Ryan Theriot

by lindz221 on Apr 22, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

somethings dont change I take it

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

TWSS

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 22, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that came up short

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your hoping she doesn't say either :)

"So chicks dig guys who TAKE AWAY the long ball, too? " by dat cubfan daver

by Madison Cub Fan on Apr 22, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew there would be something to my last one

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

"It was a tough first 10,000 wins. I hope the next 10,000 are easier."
-Ryan Theriot

by lindz221 on Apr 22, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Found it!

285 in HD if anyone is wondering…

"It was a tough first 10,000 wins. I hope the next 10,000 are easier."
-Ryan Theriot

by lindz221 on Apr 22, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Split screen tonight Cubs & Blackhawks

Watching Lou’s slow walk to the mound and the Hawks power play at the same time can make you nausish.

by Employee22 on Apr 22, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lou won't be walking to the mound

Lilly will throw 11 scoreless innings. Even after the Cubs win by a touchdown in regulation.
That’s just Ted being Ted.

The Hawks game, on the other hand, is a bit more difficult to measure.

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 22, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cubs sweep

the cubs will sweep the reds. with lilly today and zambrano tommorow there is no worries

by cooltrev on Apr 22, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i'm a cub fan

i always worry

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what do Cub fans from Australia say?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

put another Cotts on the barbie?

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll bite...

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really? they say that?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol

Because Z was the model of pitching last time out

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You expect him to be great everytime?

He’s not Ted Lilly for crying out loud!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or Hoff

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So true

What was I thinking!?!?!

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by nji232 on Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Stone

God I’m so glad he has enough dignity not to say “YYYYYYES” like Darrin Jackson did during Hawk’s retarded HR call.

by kanderber on Apr 22, 2009 6:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought he did

I recall watching a Spring Training Cubs-Sux game and I thought he did it.

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 22, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just watched a Thome HR...

on the MLB Network and he didn’t do it. I’m hoping he never does.

by kanderber on Apr 22, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He said when he signed the contract...

…that he would not

"Just win tonight" - derv

by derv on Apr 22, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

good

and “he gone” can be gone IMO

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i, well, umm, i

i like baseball, and there are days the Cubs announcers are not calling the Cubs ST game against the Sox….yeah thats it, sure, that is my final answer

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 22, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey

theres plenty of time to worry in the season. dont worry about the reds. there two or three years away from where they need to be to compete with the cubs and cardinals this year

by cooltrev on Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm out for awhile...

leaving the office and have to pick up my daughter from her softball game….see you all later in an overflow thread!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 22, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

CHICAGO CUBS BASEBALL

is ON THE AIR!

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dinner

and then game on the radio.

Might jump into the overflows later.

GO CUBS!

Because when it comes to sports, we die harder than Bruce Willis.

by halfblindcubbiegirl on Apr 22, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

JUMP

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2009/4/22/848527/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs-reds

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on Apr 22, 2009 7:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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