Is Alfonso Soriano striking out on purpose to allege later that he shouldn't be hitting 3rd in the lineup? What do you think?
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Fraggin Judge
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He's not that smart
If you had to choose just one characteristic that would get you through life, choose a sense of humor.
by Clutche on Apr 25, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No
He’s the type of guy that would just say “I don’t wanna hit third,” and start whining about it.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 25, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no.
he’s the kind of guy who has said, all along, that he would do what Lou wants him to do. Everything Lou has asked for, Soriano has done.
This whole post is BULLSHIT.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
where does it say that?
“I think he likes to try some things,” Soriano said. “If it works, it stays. If it doesn’t work, it’s back to normal.”
“I want to do the best for the team, but back and forth, I don’t think is the best,” Soriano said. “If he wants to try something out, then stay for the season. It’s very tough and difficult to play this game and when you move around, it’s more difficult. The moves he makes, I have to do what he says, because he’s the manager.”
“I have to make adjustments because they don’t want to throw me strikes,” he said. “If they throw a strike, they know I can hit the ball hard.”
Soriano has a career .125 average batting second, .258 in the third hole, .195 hitting fourth, and .268 hitting fifth. Leadoff suits him just fine.
“The most important thing is we get the win today,” Soriano said. “It doesn’t matter if I’m batting first or batting third.”
As I’ve said. Soriano has always done whatever Lou asked him to do. Your post is BS.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 26, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now we find out Soriano wasn't too willing to do what Lou said.
So much so that he’s back leading off. Lou decided to avoid a controversy.. As to the numbers, small sample. Look for the numbers career-wise. Soriano has been productive hitting 3rd or lower. What a lot of fans are saying was expressed by Frank Robinson years ago: Soriano is not a suitable leadoff hitter. Unfortunately, right now he may be the only one the Cubs have. Just another sign of a badly structured team.
by Fraggin Judge on Apr 26, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you keep saying this
and you keep not providing ANY PROOF.
Lou asked Sori to bat third. He batted third. The lineup performed as poorly as possible in those two games with Riot at leadoff and Sori at third.
Lou decides that it’s not working, and puts Sori back at leadoff. The Cubs win 10-3. Seems to me that this should be an open and shut case. You’ve got NO cause to suggest that Sori should hit farther down in the lineup. We won 97 games last year, most of which with Sori at leadoff.
I don’t know why you’ve got this hard-on for him like this, but it’s pretty silly. You really think that a PLAYER made Lou Piniella change his batting order? Deliberately? You must be high.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 26, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have rec'd
except that Drew’s comments were posted in the wrong thread for rec’ing.
Derrek Lee is good.
by DGU on Apr 27, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing your article proves
Is that Soriano doesn’t want to constantly be moved around:
“I want to do the best for the team, but back and forth, I don’t think is the best,” Soriano said. “If he wants to try something out, then stay for the season. It’s very tough and difficult to play this game and when you move around, it’s more difficult. The moves he makes, I have to do what he says, because he’s the manager.”
I think anyone would agree with that. I can’t recall him ever whining about being switched out of one spot. Everyone has their preference or belief of what they should be doing and to his credit Soriano goes with what Lou says and plays his spot in the line up.
by Villeslgr on Apr 26, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually after todays game he was very critical of himself (WGN radio)
…and was beating himself up for swinging at bad pitches.
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by JB 23 on Apr 25, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Stand up and be proud
This is officially the dumbest theory I’ve ever heard on this site.
by ak123 on Apr 25, 2009 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
by ambrosiadreams on Apr 25, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 or -1
I am too dumb after reading this post to understand which i should be posting to agree with you agreeing with him anti agreeing with the post
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 25, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never before said a post should be deleted
but for this one, I will make an exception
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 25, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1. Christ.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truly....
…. this idea is simply wrong. I’ve posted some nutty things here, but this idea of yours merited some further thought before you went public with it.
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by BeerCub on Apr 26, 2009 12:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where do people think of these stupid ideas?
I guess people just like to see their names by posts on the internet.
by rlpete on Apr 26, 2009 7:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WE NEED A DE-RECOMMEND FEATURE.
SO I CAN GET THIS RUBBISH OFF THE FRONT PAGE.
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by dtpollitt on Apr 26, 2009 9:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I only wish
that you’d back that up with your home address, so that Sori might be able to read it, and come explain to you how he feels about or offensive and stupid commentary.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Al please delete this
this post actually insults pro players, and the mentally handicapped
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on Apr 26, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny. I never said I believed in this theory.
Please notice the question marks. It was just food for thought. I posted it because it’s being discussed in other internet sites, including comments at MLB.com. And right after Soriano got a golden sombrero without taking one pitch, Lou moved him back to leadoff, giving the conspiracy theorists more fodder. Right now, I am more suspicious than I was before, but I’ll still give Soriano the benefit of the doubt.
In summary, to everybody who felt insulted by this post, like the SNL girl says: “Sorry…” But it’s being discussed out there.
by Fraggin Judge on Apr 26, 2009 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
But it’s being discussed out there.
By people who don’t know what they’re talking about.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 26, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyway, the small sample (2 games) prevailed.
Only in Chicago putting a power hitter in a power spot is called an “experiment”. This was Soriano’s reaction when told that he’s back leading off:
“I want to do the best for the team, but back and forth, I don’t think is the best,” Soriano said. “If he wants to try something out, then stay for the season. It’s very tough and difficult to play this game and when you move around, it’s more difficult. The moves he makes, I have to do what he says, because he’s the manager.”
So much for “I don’t mind doing what the manager thinks is best for the team.” But I agree with Soriano, he shouldn’t lead off the rest of the season. But Lou says he will. Hopefully, Lou is right and I’m wrong.
by Fraggin Judge on Apr 26, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
selective quoting.
nice.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 26, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We get it
You don’t like Soriano. What is so bad in what he said? DeRosa said the same thing last year that he would prefer a more consistent role. Heilman said he prefers to start but is doing fine in the pen. Players have preferences. Claiming Soriano is throwing games is a joke.
Oh I forgot, you are just mentioning it because it is “out there”.
by rlpete on Apr 26, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Read again. I don't subscribe to the theory that Soriano threw those AB away to pressure Lou.
As I said above, I give Soriano the benefit of the doubt. But the belief otherwise is being expressed out there in the blogosphere and we need to be aware of it. Again, I think Soriano is a valuable player for the team, wherever he hits in the lineup. But a lot of people are suspicious of his performance yesterday. And after what Manny Ramírez did last year to the Red Sox, we can expect that some fans will be suspicious.
by Fraggin Judge on Apr 26, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice backpedal
but you’ve said this in other threads, and you provide no attribution, and no evidence that anyone else is saying this.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 26, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read below.
Also several comments here.
by Fraggin Judge on Apr 28, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see people complaining about the usual crap
and a lot of people telling them they’re full of it.
Huh. Familiar.
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 28, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not here I hope
All of a total of 4 comments.
Or here?
29 comments and 3 “commentors” mention your theory.
I had no luck finding this theory anywhere else.
by Villeslgr on Apr 26, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol!
"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella
by drewishdrewid on Apr 28, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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