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MLB Draft thoughts/options

The baseball draft means nothing to a lot of people, but it is one of my favorite days of the year.  The draft will take place on June 9-10 this year.

In case you have not heard by now, Stephen Strasburg is hands down the no. 1 talent and odds are incredibly high that he goes to the Nationals with the first pick.  Strasburg is a RHP out of San Diego State.  Some people are saying he may be the best pitching prospect ever to come out of the draft (certainly the best since Mark Prior).  He sits at 97-99 with the fastball (regularly touching 100) and his main off-speed pitch is what he calls a slider, but is really more of a curve with 2-plane break (not traditional 12-6, however).  He is the hardest thrower and has the best off-speed pitch in the draft, but perhaps the most impressive thing is his ability to locate those pitches.  Strasburg has walked a mere 13 hitters in 70.1 IP this season, while striking out 135!  This gives him just over a 10/1 K/BB.  He is also on pace to break Ryan Wagner's collegiate K/9 record of 16.8.

Some are paranoid about his mechanics, and I understand the concerns, but there is no way you pass up on this kind of a talent.  The only way the Nationals might is if they are scared off by the $50 mil price tag Scott Boras has thrown out there.  He will not end up getting that much, I would envision closer to $25 mil, which will still shatter the previous record. 

Ok, so Strasburg is really good, but who can the Cubs get....

The Cubs pick late in the first round this year, 31st overall (Angels, Nationals and Diamondbacks pick in front of the Cubs 2 times for losing type A free agents, or, in the Nationals case, not signing last years 1st rd pick, Aaron Crow).

This will be Tim Wilken's 4th year as Cubs Scouting Director.  In the previous 3, he has taken a college position player (Tyler Colvin), a prep position player (Josh Vitters) and a college pitcher (Andrew Cashner).  Dating back to his days with the Blue Jays, Wilken has shown a mix of college and high school players, though he tends to lean towards position players in the first round. 

This is not a good draft for college bats, but there are some decent options that could be around when the Cubs pick.

The best realistic option, in my opinion, would be A.J. Pollock, an outfielder out of Notre Dame.  He is hitting .364/.457/.578 on the season as the Irish lead-off hitter.  Pollock has the ability to play a decent center-field, and though he is not a burner, runs decent enough and is supposed to have excellent instincts, allowing him to get good jumps.  The first thing I noticed with Pollock, was the impressive K/BB.  Pollock has walked only 17 times this season (in 154 AB's) while walking 24 times.  It is great to see a guy walking more than he is striking out.  Players who can do this are capable of hitting .300 with solid OBP's.  Pollock doesn't have a ton of upside, but is very polished and could be a very solid producer in a couple short years. 

Kendal Volz, a RHP from Baylor, was a guy who was originally expected to go in the top 10 or 15, but may have pitched himself down to the bottom, or even supplemental first rd. He used to sit at 94-95 with the fastball, but has lost a decent amount of velocity this season.  A friend of mine saw him pitch a couple weeks back, and he was not pitching above 91 mph.  Volz does have a really good slider as well.  He has had difficulty throwing strikes and I wonder if he is having some arm problems that we have not been made aware of yet.  The upside is there, but this is a guy who I would like to see the Cubs stay away from.

After those 2, there appear to be a lot of intruiging HS players that I do not know a ton about, except for what I see at Baseball America.  Matt Hobgood, a RHP out of a HS in California is ranked #33 on BA's mid-season list.  Hobgood is a big boy, at 245 lb. and has a fastball in the low-mid 90's along a solid curve. 

As I mentioned before, this is not a good year for hitters, but I like some of the college OF's and there appear to be some decent HS pitchers.  As the draft gets closer, I will write more about who the Cubs could be taking and how they are playing. 

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of SB Nation or Al Yellon, managing editor (unless it's a FanPost posted by Al). FanPost opinions are valued expressions of opinion by passionate and knowledgeable baseball fans.

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A little too early for me to start looking at it

but there will be postings and interest here if the past several years are any indication.

by rlpete on Apr 28, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If there's a good player at Notre Dame

the Cubs are likely to take him. But I’ll throw out someone from my neck of the woods—Tim Wheeler, OF Sacramento State. He’s hitting .389/.495/.783 with 16 homers and fourteen steals. Scouts don’t seem to love his tools, which is why he’s being projected as a late-first, early-second rounder. He might be on the board when we pick.

by Josh77 on Apr 28, 2009 12:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I've been reading up on him

Really like what I am seeing so far and thought about mentioning him. I think his performance this spring, coupled with underwhelming years from a lot of other college players will result in him going in the 15-20 range.

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by MJMars on Apr 28, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be

I keep hearing this draft is Strasburg and a prayer.

I really haven’t had the time to follow the amateur game this year, so I’m not that up on the comparable talent in the 15-20 range. I’m more of a minor league guy than a draft guy. Give them to me in June when they’re using wooden bats.

If you’re up on this stuff and if you’re interested, email me and we can discuss you helping to do a draft preview on the front page come early June. Because Al will ask me to do one and mostly, I’m just guessing.

by Josh77 on Apr 28, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Cubs are looking for pitching....

… I’d look at Mike Leake, a pitcher at ASU.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Apr 28, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No chance he falls that far

BA has him ranked at #13 and he is one of the few college pitchers to pitch well this season, improving his stock. Good chance he is gone by 10, but definitely gone by middle of the 1st

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Apr 28, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad.

Maybe there will be signability issues and he’ll drop some.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Apr 28, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Signability

With the Cubs change in ownership as well as current budget issues, we have no idea if the Cubs will still be the type of team that signs high money players that fall because of signability issues. They may, but its also entirely possible that they’ll be much more fiscally conservative in this area

by dmlichte on Apr 28, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possible.

Also depends on who has Scott Boras as an agent. Jim Hendry and Boras have a good relationship.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Apr 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how quickly the Nats will rush Strasburg

By some accounts he’s ready to play with the big boys already.

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Apr 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He really is ready today

My guess, since he won’t sign until the Aug 15 deadline and most likely will not pitch in the minors this season, is that he gets maybe 2 months in AA next year before getting called up at some point in June.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Apr 28, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps, but the Nats risk a PR nightmare if that signing is delayed or not made at all

B/C what else do they have to root for at the moment. However, with Strasburg, Jordan Zimmerman, Ryan Zimmerman and Dukes they have a nice young core going

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Apr 28, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. Draft Strasburg, put him on the 25-man roster, and sell some tickets.

The Nats need a serious shot in the arm. Give Boras and Strasburg (almostt) whatever they want, and get to work.

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by D98 on Apr 29, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some of that will depend on how long it takes to sign him.

Boras will probably take that signing to the last second of negotiation time.

Derrek Lee is good.

by DGU on Apr 28, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tim Wilken has been wholly unimpressive

The excuse that it is too early to judge his performance holds some water, but it getting a little lame.

For those not bright enough to grasp the fundamental underpinning of a message board, please take note that "EVERYTHING I state is an OPINION."

by BLou on Apr 28, 2009 2:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed to some extent

I hated the Colvin and Cashner picks when they happened, but its hard not to like Vitters. I did like the picks of Shafer in the 2nd and 3rd rounds last year though. Keep in mind we did not have a pick in rounds 2-4 in 2006

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Apr 28, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if he's struggling so far this season

you can’t not love grabbing Jay Jackson in the ninth round. And Tony Thomas is looking great so far this season. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him in Wrigley this year, and you’ve got to give him credit for that.

by Josh77 on Apr 28, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely agreed on Jackson!

Don’t know how I forgot about him. I liked Thomas when he was first picked too, but we need to see how the AA numbers hold up.

We also have to keep in mind some of the signed free agents like Dae-Eun Rhee, who looked great last season before TJ surgery as well as Castro, Lake and Hak-Ju Lee. These guys seem to have some considerable upside.

I don’t dislike Wilken, I put much of the blame of fizzled prospects on Oneri Fleits, who has been with the Cubs for quite a while as head of Player Development

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Apr 28, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josh Vitters is playing in Low A ball

Lets not get carried away with annointing him anything. The jury is very much out on Josh Vitters.

For those not bright enough to grasp the fundamental underpinning of a message board, please take note that "EVERYTHING I state is an OPINION."

by BLou on Apr 28, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We weren't willing to part with him to complete the deal for Peavy

So while the jury is indeed out, he’s still thought of pretty highly.

I re-named Cotts a couple of weeks back, now when he comes into the game the wife goes "Hey honey, isn't that your White Towel/Flag being thrown into the game?"

by __Sean__ on Apr 28, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No argument

But Josh Vitters is VERY FAR removed from knowing with any semi-level of precision whether he is really major league material someday. His professional career start has been excruciatingly slow.

For those not bright enough to grasp the fundamental underpinning of a message board, please take note that "EVERYTHING I state is an OPINION."

by BLou on Apr 28, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vitters should be in Daytona by midseason.

Then we’ll see more.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Apr 28, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because I forgot..

Apparently Josh Vitters needs to invest time in Peoria so as to please Pete Van Ochen ! The Cub organization apparently is okay using the top prospect in the system as a pawn in the relationship management game with the long-time owner of the low-A ball affiliate. Vitters should have started the season in Daytona, period.

For those not bright enough to grasp the fundamental underpinning of a message board, please take note that "EVERYTHING I state is an OPINION."

by BLou on Apr 28, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knock it off

I’m sorry I ever mentioned that. It’s at best, a tiny consideration. If they were only keeping Vitters in Peoria for a show for Chiefs fans, he would have been gone after two series. I thought that possible he was there for a show, but now that he’s still there, I no longer believe it’s possible.

They, nor would any other franchise, keep a player at a level for a half season just to keep an affiliate happy. What you are saying is bullshit, and I’m sorry I ever put the idea in your head.

You really don’t know what you are talking about.

by Josh77 on Apr 29, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see his point, though it wasn't made properly.

Why do the Cubs hold some of their best prospects back? What IS the reason for Vitters to start the year at Peoria? Doesn’t he have enough talent to play High-A at age 19?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Apr 29, 2009 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he does

and I think he will show that, but keep in mind he only had 14 AB’s in Peoria last year before going down with the hand injury, so he would essentially be skipping a level. The FSL, like the MWL, is a pretty difficult place for hitters and it is much easier to destroy someone’s confidence than it is to rebuild it.

Again, I think he can handle Daytona and will probably will get that chance by June, but it doesn’t hurt to give him a chance to work on some things against pitching that is a little weaker.

churchofbaseball.com

by MJMars on Apr 29, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

That makes sense.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Apr 29, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's also

Corey Patterson gun-shyness. The Cubs got ripped for promoting Patterson too fast and since then have been very conservative in their promotions of top prospects. Well, at least until this season, when they jumped Castro three level. But Castro ain’t the top prospect in the system—Vitters is. And the Cubs don’t want him to turn out to be Corey Patterson.

by Josh77 on Apr 29, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True enough.

I don’t think there’s much risk of that, do you?

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Apr 29, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is an example....

of a very nice post. rec’d

I didn't get the players I wanted in the offseason!! Hopefully I get what I want in the Regular Season---The World Series Trophy!! Go Cubbies!!

by cubsluver22 on Apr 28, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I was scrolling down on my way to say the same

Thank you MJMars for the insight. Rec’d

One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.

by chilango2 on Apr 28, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with this.

This is exactly the kind of thing that I’d like to see more people do in FanPosts — a little original research, some good writing, and a position taken and backed up.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on Apr 28, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So if Aaron Crow wasn't signed, is he back in the draft?

And if he is, where is he likely to be picked? I really only ask because he went to Mizzou.

by Pat19 on Apr 30, 2009 11:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He is back in the draft

Signed with an Independent League and will start pitching soon. People have kinda forgotten since he hasn’t pitched, but has a really good shot to go in the top 10 if he gets off to a good start.

As a Mizzou fan, you should be pretty excited about rhp, Kyle Gibson. I would argue he is the #2 pitcher in the draft behind Strasburg. Very good stuff, very good command. All-around, rock solid.

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by MJMars on Apr 30, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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