Return Of The Walking Wounded: Cubs vs. Diamondbacks, Tuesday 4/28, 8:40 CT
by Al Yellon on Apr 28, 2009 5:49 PM CDT
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PrintMilton Bradley will be back tonight -- and hopefully for more than one game before he goes out again. Aramis Ramirez won't start but hopefully will be available to PH (see the full lineup below), and Carlos Marmol will be available for setup duty.
I promised this at 6 pm CDT; it's up a little early because the starting lineup is out, and today's earlier thread was getting a little slow.
Anyway, we won't see Lou forced to use Reed Johnson as his cleanup hitter again; in fact, Reed gets today off with a righthander going. With Micah Hoffpauir at first base and Koyie Hill catching, that gives Lou three lefthanded hitters in tonight's lineup (Fukudome, Hoffpauir and Fontenot) and four switch-hitters (Bradley, Hill, Miles and Z).
Maybe the Cubs can actually have a breakout hitting night. Z, incidentally, is making his first regular-season start against the D'backs since that disastrous Opening Day start on April 4, 2005, where he gave up seven hits and four walks and had to be pulled with a 9-3 lead, one out short of a victory. Since then, Z's only appearance vs. Arizona was in the 2007 NLDS -- nuff said about that, I suspect. He and Randy Johnson were supposed to match up last Mother's Day at Wrigley Field, but with a rain delay and bad field conditions, both Z and Johnson were pulled from their starts. Z will miss the two-game San Francisco series next week; he'll start tonight, then Sunday vs. the Marlins.
Ex-Cub watch: the Padres recalled Chad Gaudin from Triple-A and he will start their game tonight against the Rockies. He's determined to stay in their rotation; if he does, he's likely to start the afternoon game on Thursday, May 14 at Wrigley Field.
From twittermeyer, tonight's starting lineup:
Soriano, LF Theriot, SS Fukudome, CF Hoffpauir, 1B Bradley, RF Fontenot, 3B Hill, C Miles, 2B Zambrano, P
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Today's game is on WGN. Weird broadcast stat of the year so far: the Cubs are doing far better in WGN games (4-2) than in CSN games (3-6). That's a reversal of the last three years. Yes, I know it doesn't matter, but it is a weird coincidence. For more see the MLB.com Mediacenter.
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gaudin eh?
LIGHT ’EM UP
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
only against the Pads
…and I live there. SWL and me got something in common ha ha.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
you can also light up this Petit guy too
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
I have really
enjoyed Dome in RF but I hope MB has a great game. At least Dome is still in the lineup.
Dome has definitely been a nice surprise.
He looks like he’s having fun.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Apr 28, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
is it too early to say I told you so about Dome?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Why don't we just be happy he's playing well.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Apr 28, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i was being a smart a$$
since we keep seeing people say that about Bradley, and I had posted before the season why he was going to be fine. It was just that your post was the one I choose to be one to, not picing on you.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
damn skippy there is no problem
cuz I am a black belt at chinese checkers, and not afraid to use it
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Please see my sig line, new today!
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by AndrewJStone on Apr 28, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Not too early Timmy...
I'm a truth teller, I'm a risk taker, I'm like Johnny Cash - I walk the line...
by Jimmyeatworld on Apr 28, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Zambrano's headshot looks like he's in a horror movie poster and playing the role of supporting bad guy.
This lineup at least somewhat resembles a normal 2009 Chicago Cubs lineup. I bet we score a lot of runs tonight—6 or 8—and Zambrano is the calming force against an inferior pitcher. Koyie has hit well this year (OP+ 131) and I expect him to have a few hits tonight. We need to get Micah and Miles out of the everyday starting lineup.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
well, he has not pitched well here
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
What Cubs pitcher has pitched well there?
I remember a particularly bad outing by Maddux in 2006(?). I can’t think of any good performances off the top of my head.
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
none of the above comes to mind
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
If he can pitch reasonably
he’ll be fine, if the offense can give him some support.
by chitownhawkeye on Apr 28, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Jake Fox hit #12 this afternoon
All the minor league games are over, but there wrap will be at the normal time tonight.
What, that the games are all over
by 6 p.m.? :)
by Not Bruce Froemming on Apr 28, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends. Who's #12?
If he’s a BAMF like GaHill, then yeah, pretty impressive. But if he’s a scrawny little guy like Eckstein, then, not so impressive.
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
How many HR does he need to hit before we send Gaithright away and put Fox on the bench?
what’s wrong with replacing a one dimensional player with another?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 28, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Left handed
That determines 95% of Lou and Hendry decisions.
www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com
Anybody got a mirror to hang in front of them??
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
Because HR's from LH batters count for more runs than a RH batter?
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 28, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
well a leadoff HR from a certain LH batter would count for quite a lot in these circles... ;-)
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
For the record:
In 19 games (counting tonight), here’s the monster list of left-handed starting hurlers we have faced this year:
Wandy Rodriguez (a loss)
Personally, I think Lou’s crazy about getting more LH bats in here (both as his charge in the off-season and why our bench sucks). If our offense wasn’t anemic last year against the Dodgers we wouldn’t care if they hit from the left or from the right—we were #2 in MLB in scoring last year. With a predominantly RH hitting lineup.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
See, I guess having all these extra LH batters has our opposition scared to send any starting LH Pitching to face us!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 28, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly!
Sure scared CC from re-signing with the Brewers. The $161M deal with the Yankees was just a smokescreen…
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
Maybe I should shut my mouth...
…but in 2009 here are the stats:
2009 NL
RHP = .302
LHP = .294
2009 Cubs
RHP = .279
LHP = .359
2008 Cubs
RHP = .314
LHP = .339
Then again, we’ve only had 63 PAs against LHP in 2009 (like I said, only ONE LHP starter), and 645 against RHP, so I think this is just a real small sample size. Well, that, and the fact that Kosuke has a 168 OPS+, which skews the hell outta this statistic so early in the season. Even so, if Lou is concerned with us hitting well against left-handed pitchers, this has less to do with our abilities (clearly we hit southpaws well last year, damnit!) to hit a certain type of pitcher and more with our abilities to hit the ball in general. I think Lou overreacted in the off-season.
Dan
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
There was a clear overreaction
Which led to one of the most questionable decisions Jim Hendry has ever made, signing Aaron Miles.
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don't you have it backwards?
dont we want left handed hitters in order to hit better against RHPs?
the pink hat guy is my father
they just look more pretty
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
SOB
Ramirez (calf) still at least couple days away. Wasn’t pleased w/ how pregame work went today.
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Meh.
Aramis misses a few games every year. I’m not worried about him. Since he’s been with the Cubs he’s played (2008-2004):
149
132
157
123
145
games in each of his full seasons. I’m more concerned with Soto and Bradley than I am A-Ram.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
In other words...Aramis Ramirez is...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 28, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
that will get you a loaf of bread
and several rolls of TP.
"Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will
So we don't do so well against this Petit guy
2-0 2.81 ERA in 3 starts against us.
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we have no chance.
…but let’s play the game anyway.
Go Cubs. Break this AZ jinx!!
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
GO CUBS GO!!!!
Guy at bar: "Do you just like that hat or do you like Chicago?"
Me: "I'm in Love, Obsessed and Addicted to the Chicago Cubs!"
Some good news
Stay tuned for possible lineup change. Lee (neck) says he feels weel enough to try and play today.
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Imagine if you told your boss:
“Hey, I’ll try and work today. We’ll see how that goes.”
One day I hope to come up with something worthy of this space.
I say stuff like that to my boss all the time.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 28, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
In this economy? Not right now.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 28, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
They live a good life
Seriously tho, I give DLee all the credit in the world for trying to man up and play.
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+25
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Personally, I'd rather see Lee take another day off. I'd rather he feel well enough to kick ass, not just try and play.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on Apr 28, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
+6
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Agreed, especially ...
… since a LHP (Doug Davis) is going tomorrow and you’d probably sit Hoffpauir anyway.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
Alright Cubs, Lets get it rolling again!
Funny the way it is, how a kid walks ten miles to school while another is dropping out
Correct me if I'm wrong
Jake Fox is strictly able to play 1B and LF correct?
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Define "able"
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
Able
In LF- the ability to be equal to or greater than Chris Duncan; at 1B- the ability to catch throws from the other infielders, and occasionally look like an athlete when Theriot/Aramis make bad throws.
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This just in
Derrick Rose can jump like crazy. I’ve never been happier to be wrong about a player debate.
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I thought B-Easy was the better pick for the team
I was wrong.
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Yeah
I was going back and forth with who they should have drafted until I saw Rose play more and more throughout the year.
by Craig in South Bend on Apr 28, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
People who wanted Rose because he wasn't a trouble maker
are still wrong with that argument because Beasley isn’t the horrible human some made him out to be. Rose just is the better basketball player tho.
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I love Derrick Rose.
He missed key free thorws in the final minutes of the NCAA Championship game, allowing Chalmbers to stroke a 3, and KU to win. John Calipari’s perspective on free throw shooting is well documented (check out the 2009 tourney edition of SI for more on this): Calipari thinks that “They’ll hit ’em when it counts.” Good job, coach! He’s going to ruin and slime all over the UK program. w00t!
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I'll tell you what
Calipari will make UK really good as long as he doesn’t get nailed for illegal recruiting. Something Bill Self has done a very good job at.
www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com
Boooooo hooooooo Mizzou fan.
Everybody knows the rules of the NCAA recruiting scheme are so washed down and irrelevant these days any coach could probably get slapped with some violations. He’s a good guy, loyal to KU, produces players that both make the NBA and graduate with degrees, and his a fat ring. I’ll take him.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I'm not saying I wouldn't take him
I’m just saying that casting the “slime” label isn’t a good idea. It has become impossible to recruit a 5 star basketball player legally, which doesn’t bug me at all because if I were a coach I would be doing all the crap too. Just don’t sneer at something when it’s happening right next to you.
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Hawks win last night
Bulls and Cubs win tonight?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
2 things I'm fully aware of each year
Cubs will not play well in Arizona, and they will not play well anywhere in Florida. With that in mind, I’m hoping for a Bulls win more than anything else. The Cubs will have tons more chances throughout the year.
by Craig in South Bend on Apr 28, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Bulls need Gordon to play
Otherwise I dont know how much of a chance they have.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by jkobus on Apr 28, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this
Oddly enough, I would almost want to see them rest Gordon throughout the game tonight. I don’t like them relying on one player to do everything, and if he isn’t hot, they’re done. I’d rather see them pull together as a team and try and outplay Boston.
by Craig in South Bend on Apr 28, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
If a Rose can have a game...
like he did in game in game 1 they wont need Gordon as bad
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
It scares me
that you (or someone) is keeping track of that.
by chitownhawkeye on Apr 28, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
is it a small sample size?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
I don't know what size it is. What does Brenly do with it after he picks it?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Welp, hopefully Bradley can go out there and stay healthy and perform well
Movement to make Jeff Samardzija our closer!
Whoa whoa whoa there buddy. Back the truck up.
Which is it?
(1) Go out there
(2) Stay healthy
(3) Perform well
You can’t have your Monopoly and eat it, too.
Evey Hammond: Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici. V: By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
I predict Z will go deep tonight.
Even Z has started slowly at the plate this season, he has no hits and shockingly 1 walk! Z is easilly the most difficult batter on the Cubs to walk.
Hey, it's a new century!
Lou wins the battle
Lou talked to Lee, who wants to play tonite. Lou says tomorrow.
www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com
Anyone else miss the Shawon-o-meter?
I think we need to start the Gameboard-o-meter, as this is getting out of hand. Coming into tonight, it’s a whopping .042.
"Yes, dear. You're right. I'm sorry." -Bob Brenly
yeah, well just leave some room for OBP on that sign
as long as he can keep that +.240 differential, I’ll be ecstatic if he hits anything north of .250
Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."
I miss those
and I suggested a Hoff-Walk-O-Meter but it was denied
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
Bulls up 47-44 at half
Hinrich with 14, rose with 6, gordon with 5
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Watching the game. Why is Gordon missing shots?
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Im not watching
But he is 2-11 right now. Not pretty. But he has 4 assists
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
those are not missed shots
he calls them passes
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
have a Zambrano ?
Where was the game he took a no hitter into the 8th inning,,I think
Seems like the game was not on TV…remember it being on the radio here in Des Moines….
any help??
he recently took a no-hitter the whole game
You may have heard about it.
www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com
He came close to no-hitting the Astros in Houston
(a couple of years before he no-hit them in Milwaukee).
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Apr 28, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Well he used to tease us with a no-no about twice a year
I do think I know what game you speak of, but I have no clue what day or year.
www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com
Way to long ago for my poor brain to remember.
Hey, it's a new century!
by cowsarecool220 on Apr 28, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, I remember that one.
My friends Carole & Ernie got married that night. We were following the game on my cellphone.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
And pass em around!
"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris
by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 28, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
dont Bogart
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
These 8:40 games suck
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Agree
Feel worse for Al – but I get up 630-7ish.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I just hate not catching any of it
cause I am at the library by 8 and then I cant watch it on Gameday cause I get to distracted. bleh
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Gotcha -
Ideally for me is 6:05 game.
In college (assuming thtats where you are) I always planned my schedule around games. Usually I would do early classes.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I prefer the west coast games this time of year
While I’m in school and up late anyway. After mid-May I have to wake and go to work at 730 everyday which doesn’t work well with games ending at 12:30.
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I preffer the 6:05 game.
Cause I am out of classes by then every day. Just need to get a tv and cable in my office at work for next year so I can catch all the day games.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
530 am for me
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
When Im bold and work out in the morning 530 for me too
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Ha I know
But lets be honest you are at EVERY HOME GAME – you need to sacrifice!!!
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
+1
I would wake up whenever the hell you tell me to for that luxury
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
2 yeats
For 2 years back in the 90s when I was single and goofy I worked the 4-1230 shift and went to every home game. I worked walking distance from the park.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by puckishcubsfan on Apr 28, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
It might be late enough for me to catch the end of the game
If, unlike last night, I want to.
by chitownhawkeye on Apr 28, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
If the Cubs were up 5-1 I wouldhave stayed awake…..
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
Woke up
Woke up at end of Hawks game to hear husband yelling Hawks win! Asked about Cubs. He said the Score. Went back to sleep.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
by puckishcubsfan on Apr 28, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, this is rough.
It’s a 9:40 start for me and I have to be at school at 7:30 which means getting up by 6:00 at the absolute latest.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
70 - 66 Bulls end of the third
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Im out ALL
Go Cubs
Light these pitcher up!!!
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
I realized today I may have jessica (doggiestalker) beat on Maddux devotion
I was thinking of but decided against it of making a fanshot “What is the craziest thing you’ve ever done related to being a Cubs fan?”
I realized the 3 craziest are all Maddux related for me.
1. The morning of his 20th win in 1992 I had 3 wisdom teeth pulled and still went to the game.
2. I rearranged my entire schedule and paid a rebooking fee to see him go after 300 cutting Trixie camp short for me.
3. I had ankle surgery this morning and despite the fact I will be on crutches and in a cast I am going to the game on Sunday for the retirement ceremony.
Jay is our Quarterback. I REPEAT JAY IS OUR QUARTERBACK. Did I mention we have a Quarterback who happens to be named Jay?.
To better judge this we need to know what crazy things Jessica has done for Maddux.
"I'm not much of a chemistry guy, you know. Chemistry to me is a pinch-hit double with the bases loaded"--Jim Frey, Chicago Tribune, 1985.
Jessica
1. gave birth to octuplets, during the pregame, and was there for the opening pitch
2. Taught the children in Somolia how to play catch the same morning he won #300 while still being at the game, her only transportation was one roller skate, which she used like a skateboard
3. his rookie game, she wrote his HOF speech
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
So I hear there's a baseball game to-nite.
How long should we give sig lines at the bottom of the comments?
Bradley watch -- out 7 games of 18
Ray Allen just fouled out
The Bulls have a good chance at this!
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
Braves take a 2-1 lead over STL
Big 2-out bases loaded single
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