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Harden-ly Worth The Trip: Cubs 1, Yankees 10

Lou Piniella, perhaps contemplating which relievers to keep, during Saturday's loss to the Yankees. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

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Lou Piniella, perhaps contemplating which relievers to keep, during Saturday's loss to the Yankees. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

SCOTTSDALE, Arizona -- I opted to spend a beautiful Arizona afternoon in the sun rather than watch most of today's game (I did see most of the middle innings). Turned out that was the right choice; the Cubs were really never in today's 10-1 loss to the Yankees. In fact, it seemed like the entire weekend was a Yankee-fest, celebrating the opening of their new park, although it seemed like about half of the announced crowd of 48,917 this afternoon didn't bother to show, on a windy day (watching the uniforms flap around, it seemed almost as breezy as it was a week ago Wednesday in Scottsdale). I'd like to hear from any BCB'ers who were at the game regarding the weather conditions. It didn't look too pleasant. Alfonso Soriano homered, his sixth of the spring, for the Cubs' only run.

The wind helped lead to four Yankee homers, three of them off Rich Harden. Mark Teixeira homered twice and Shelley Duncan ended the barrage with a blast off Luis Vizcaino, who would surely have been cut long ago if the Cubs didn't owe him four million dollars.

And that's the only thing we are still concerned about -- the final two spots in the bullpen. All the candidates -- Jeff Samardzija, Chad Gaudin, Angel Guzman and David Patton -- threw this afternoon, and none allowed a run, although Patton did give up a single and pair of walks to load the bases before he got out of the inning. Only Vizcaino among Cub relievers allowed any scoring today, and I'm sure if Jim Hendry could get anyone to take him, he would.

As I wrote the other day, it wouldn't be the worst idea to just let him go and eat the $3 million ($3 million instead of $4 million because at the minimum salary, someone will probably pick him up, taking on this year's minimum and Vizcaino's $500,000 buyout for next year).

That's a decision for tomorrow, says Lou:

"This is what you would call judgment day," said Lou Piniella before pitching all four of the candidates in the second game played at the new ballpark in the Bronx.

After the game, Piniella didn't appear much closer to making a final decision.

"We'll get this thing settled," Piniella said. "I guess we'll have word for you Sunday."

By which time the Cubs will be in Houston; they are scheduled to land about 8:30 pm CDT tonight and will have a workout at the Juice Box tomorrow, before Monday night's opener. The Cubs finished the spring season 18-18 (18-19 if you include the 3-2 exhibition loss to Japan). But that's in the past now. Come October, will anyone remember that the Angels had the best spring record at 25-8? Or the Diamondbacks the worst at 11-22?

Of course not. The excitement begins on Monday. Enjoy the off day.

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Weather was not as bad as the game(s)

It really was not that windy in the seating at least where I was ( Terrace level) . Best thing about the series for me was that it cost a whopping $8 which was the cost of the subway for two days. Tickets were free from a friend who is a season ticket holder and I brought my food rather than pay $10 for hot dog & soda let alone the fancy stuff. Cubs looked listless after about the 2nd inning of both games. Dugout was empty after the 7th today so I think a lot of players left early.
The new Yankee Stadium is spotless and sterile. Like the old Shea, every level and section is cut off and they have usher/guards on EVERY aisle including the bleachers so good luck trying to find a friend or change seats.I skipped the fancy food court. Sight lines are excellent though as noted prices for the field level seats are INSANE. A lot of no shows at both games and some really DESPERATE scalpers soliciting folks in the subway. It sounds from reports that Citi Field is actually friendlier but I won’t be seeing for a while. My condolences to those of you who came to New York for the games. I hope you got to see a nice show or do some shopping.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 4, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wind depended on your seat

I was in the terrace level as well, but was on in left field side on the top row, fully exposed to the wind blasting through the concourse. It was not pleasant, but at least it was at my back. The fans on the other side of the stadium very gradually worked their way to other parts of the stadium during the early innings due to the wind.

I can’t say that I am overly impressed with the park. As I was touring it, I just kept seeing many of the typical structural characteristics of other HOK Sport designed parks (especially the concourses). When I walk through something called Yankee Stadium, things were done wrong if I think I might be at Great American Ballpark. Seeing the concrete already cracking (and chipping away in some stairwells) before one real game has been played at New Yankee Stadium is concerning. Still, the area just inside Gate 4 is gorgeous, the revamp of Memorial Park is very classy, and the video screen in CF is astonishingly sharp. I just expected more from a $1.5 billion stadium. Still, it is a solid place to watch a game.

The radar gun in the stadium was turned down very slow (didn’t see a pitch faster than 89 MPH), so the reported 84 MPH fastballs by Harden really had me concerned for a while. He was still throwing softer than most of the guys in the game today, so I have to wonder how his arm is feeling. Hopefully he just hit a dead arm period.

by Qixotl on Apr 4, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm having myself

A tall glass of jack and coke and celebrating a bit early. I can’t wait til Monday.

Can I get a toast to a winning season capped off by the 1st world Series Victory in 101 Years?

Go 2009 Chicago Cubbies!!!!!!!!!!

Baseball is Almost Backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!

I didn't get the players I wanted in the offseason!! Hopefully I get what I want in the Regular Season---The World Series Trophy!! Go Cubbies!!

by cubsluver22 on Apr 4, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clink!

To the end of Spring Training! Not a moment too soon…

"I've got an idea...an idea so smart my head would explode if I even began to know what I was talking about." ~Peter Griffin

by Goodie1969 on Apr 4, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Add me to the list of people happy that ST is over

Too long this time.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 4, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vizcanio has made the team for sure?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-03-cubs-bits-chicago-apr03,0,7258682.story

I know things can change but according to this Vizcaino will be in the bullpen to start the season:

Closer Kevin Gregg, Carlos Marmol, Aaron Heilman, Neal Cotts and Luis Vizcaino are assured of being in the bullpen

My prediction for the other 2 sports are Patton and Guzman and hope you only have to use them in mop up situations.

I’ll predict Gaudin goes in a minor trade with us eating most of his salary and Samardzija starts the season in Iowa to straighten things out, remember last year he didn’t get off to a great start in the minors, maybe he’s a slow starter at this point in his career.

by jeff_pico on Apr 4, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Unless the Cubs decide...

… to eat Vizcaino’s salary, we’re stuck with him.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 4, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and you owe me a Slurpee

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 5, 2009 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What was the bet again?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the bet:

If he starts out on the DL with a "mysterious" injury and never plays for the big league club, you win.

If he starts out with a "questionable" one, but pitches for the Cubs, we’ll call it a wash.

If he starts out with what we agree is a legitimate injury (I’ll trust you to be reasonable!), then I win.

linky

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 5, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like you win.

I’d rather they released him than Gaudin.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 5, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I would have, too

But I’ll take the slurpee. I’ll e-mail you a few days before I get to a game.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 6, 2009 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds good to me.

Will you be in Milwaukee next Sunday? I’m planning on being there.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 6, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, I'll be watching on HD -- wave to the east as you near highway 11.

At my sister’s house for Easter lunch before that.

I will be at Miller Park for at least one of the games in May.

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! --Homer J. Simpson

by Shanghai Badger on Apr 6, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I may go to one of thoese, too.

Haven’t figured that out yet.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 6, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what you were expecting

“In fact, it seemed like the entire weekend was a Yankee-fest”

That was the entire point of the weekend.

Based on the lineups, the performance and the early exits, the Cubs knew it too.

WOXY.com - The Future of Rock and Roll

by Gibbon Jockey on Apr 4, 2009 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Apparently so!

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 4, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And so the season begins....

…onwards and upwards, winning the next 173!

The day we lose our will to fight - Is the day we lose our Freedom.

by sanantonecub on Apr 4, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Or...

… 90-95 before October 4, and 11 after. That’d work for me.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 4, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couple of Notes

Weather was windy and chilly but overall much better than yesterday.

Fun fact I haven’t seen mentioned – after a billion dollars, the stadium sound system completely cut off in the sixth. No music, no announcements, no nothing. Yeesh.

Pretty brutal weekend but it was nice to see the new park. (Impressive but not much charm). Man I’m worried about Kosuke. He still looks lost.

A lot of Cub fans were there, at least.

by 08Cubs on Apr 4, 2009 6:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kosuke deserves to hit 8th

My opening day lineup:

Soriano
Theroit
Bradley
Lee
Ramirez
Fontenot
Soto
Fukudome/Johnson
Zambrano

by jeff_pico on Apr 4, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think that fukudome deserves anything

He might get a job based on salary and hope. Fukudome can’t hit and now he can’t even field.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 4, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really want Fukudome to succeed.

But he really hasn’t shown any signs of improvement. Let’s hope he does starting on Monday.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Apr 4, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

See everybody hopes he can be good

But its just that, hope. Despite all the excuses that can be made he wasn’t good last season and has shown nothing to make me think otherwise.

If he ends up being good thats awesome and really helps the team out. I want Fukudome to be what he is supposed to be, but to expect that is unrealistic.

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 4, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's really playing...

Out of position there in center. He was a great defensive RF, but even last year he just didn’t look comfortable in CF.

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on Apr 4, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His being in CF is entirely his own doing

www.talkingchicagobaseball.blogspot.com

by nji232 on Apr 4, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and before that the sound system

made horrible noises. It was killing my ears.

"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux

by Doggie Stalker on Apr 4, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just glad

today was still a spring training game. Yuck. Chomping at the bit for Monday. Also, my 22 year old son surprised me with tickets to the game against the Reds on April 23, a birthday present. Haven’t been to Wrigley since 2006, so I’m really looking forward to it. He managed to get better seats than I did when I took him to a game for his graduation present.

by qccub on Apr 4, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

a chip off the old block

have fun!

Steal a little and they throw you in jail, Steal a lot and they make you king -- Bob Dylan

by Emelie on Apr 4, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know....

It was baseball. I was frozen by the third inning, but it was baseball. I haven’t seen live baseball since September. I can’t lie, I enjoyed myself thoroughly. The new stadium is pretty nice…everything seems really close, as strange as that seems. It’s pretty…though since I’m kind of biased I tend to think Coors Field in Colorado is the prettiest stadium…can’t beat the view, at least. :)

I guess I’m a baseball fan above anything else, so it was a lovely time. I do wish, however, it was warmer.

by Squeaky on Apr 4, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It's the last game of Spring but !

The wind was blowing out to right with some serious gust and the team looked and played like they did not want to be there

Dome dropped an easy fly ball that was carried by the wind, later in the game he and Milton had a ball drop between them which could of been caught. They did not look at each other and walked back to their positions after it bounced over the fence

Jeter’s HR into the first row would of been a double or caught most games

DLee got doubled up on a fly out to center, he looked at the scoreboard while standing on 2nd base thinking there was 2 outs, when there was only 1

Milton walked half way to the batters box once when DLee only had 2 strikes on him

Sori, hit a ball off the top of the left field wall on the 1st pitch and watched it all the way and only got a single.

One the drive home to CT, during a radio interview Joe G said he loved the way the Yankees played today. They moved players over, ran and fielded well in addition to their 4 HR’s. He feels they are mentally prepared to have a good season.

After hearing this my 15 year old said, well if today was any indication of being mentally prepared the Cubs are in for a long, tough season. I agreed but then reminded him “COME MONDAY” the Cubs are in 1st place 0 – 0

It was nice to see the new stadium twice this weekend, having come to really despise the old stadium due to ticket prices, bathroom lines, entrance and exit rules and absolutely no parking. The new stadium is spacious and very fan friendly. Parking is still a nightmare and prices are outrageous and oh yea, Steinbrenner is still at the helm.

Here’s to Monday and great season !!! EAMUS CATULI !!

"If The Phone Doesn't Ring, It's Me"

by parrotinct on Apr 4, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

COOOOOL SLUGFEST......

Cubs appeared to have little or no energy …Could the entire team have had the flu ?? It was all Yankees today . Lets hope they can play better in Houston starting Monday ….Just have to wonder about the wisdom of flying from PHX to New York then back to Houston …. And be ready for 162 games ….

by cubs north on Apr 4, 2009 9:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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