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Get to know: The Tennessee Smokies

This is the first in my series of previews of the Cubs minor league system.  I'll try to do this for each team when their rosters come out, but no promises.


What are they?  The Tennessee Smokies are the Cubs AA farm team.  They compete in the Southern League and they are located in Kodak, Tennessee, which is in the eastern part of the state near Knoxville.  Rumor has it that if you are a dead-ringer for Pat Summitt, you can get into Smokies games for free.

If you don't know, AA-level baseball usually is packed with the best prospects in any system.  AAA has some of them, but AAA baseball is also packed with career minor leaguers and journeyman former major leaguers who are looking for one more chance to play in the majors.  Many teams, including the Cubs, often promote directly from AA to the majors.

Who's in charge? The Smokies hitting coach is Tom Beyers, who managed the Boise Hawks last season.  Their pitching coach is longtime minor league pitching coach Dennis Lewallyn, who seems to be pretty highly-regarded and has done a good job in recent years with Cubs prospects.

Their manager has only been managing for two season and never above the low-A Midwest League.  We can only hope that this Ryne Sandberg guy has enough on the ball overcome his inexperience.

How did they do last season? The Smokies were probably the most disappointing team in the Cubs system last year, finishing with a 62-77 overall record, which was the second-worst in the Southern League. (Remember what I said about AA having the best prospects?  That wasn't true for the Smokies last season, except for half a season of Jeff Samardzija.)  Luckily, the team under them in the Cubs system, the Daytona Cubs, won the Florida State League Championship last year, so help is on the way.

Star-divide

Who should we be watching, Josh?  My simple answer to this question is "everyone," because you never know when someone like a Micah Hoffpauir is going to break out. But of course, some people are more likely to be major leaguers than others.

Of course, the Smokie who is going to get the most attention this season is Ryne Sandberg, but if you can get beyond him, you'll probably notice that the Cubs gave Ryno the most exciting team in the Cubs system.

Behind the plate the Smokies have two legitimate prospects.  The first is Welington Castillo, who was the Cubs' representative in the Minor League Futures Game last year and was ranked as the #5 Cub prospect by Baseball America this season.  The 22 year-old Dominican played half a season for Tennessee last season and hit .298 with a .362 OBP and 4 HRs.  He's got a rocket arm, but he needs work blocking pitches and generally fielding his position.  Steve Clevenger is a converted infielder who is a high OBP guy but without much power.  He's still learning the position, but he's getting better every year.

In the infield, second baseman Tony Thomas finished a difficult season at Daytona by catching fire in the playoffs and winning the FSL Playoff MVP.  He's got great speed and the Cubs would like to see him become a leadoff hitter, but the Cubs will need to see more of the post-season Thomas and less of the regular season Thomas.  His defense is not a strength, so he'll have to make the majors on his bat.

Shortstop Darwin Barney is a familiar face from spring training, and he's the opposite of Thomas  in that he's a guy who is going to have to live off his glove.  He compensates for a lack of pure athleticism by having about as much baseball intelligence as anyone in the system.

Jonathan Mota joins the Smokies after two years at Daytona.  He's a 22 year old Venezuelan who can play all around the infield, including on the mound.  Blake Lalli, Matt Camp and Kyle Reynolds round out the infield.  Lalli has some pop, but he's 26, has never played above AA and is a born DH. Camp is a little speedbug who plays everywhere and has more heart than talent.  Reynolds plays third and is the son of former Houston Astro Craig Reynolds.

In the outfield, the big news is that Brandon Guyer has been skipped from Peoria straight to Tennessee.  Guyer is probably the most athletic outfielder in the Cubs system, and the subject of one of my profiles in the Maple Street Press annual.  Guyer's task in AA will be to harness his tremendous talent and staying healthy.  If Guyer can get on base more and stop running into walls, he could be a star.

Ty Wright is a left fielder with good OBP skills but who needs to develop more power.  I always thought it was cool that he's both a lifelong Texan and Cub fan. Most of you remember Richie Robnett from spring training,  He came over in the Michael Wuertz trade.  James Adduci is attempting a comeback after playing for the Cardinals, Brewers and Phillies in the 1980s . . .oh wait, that was his dad.  Adduci has good speed, good OBP skills and no power.

The pitching rotation at Tennessee is highlighted by the Carolina Comet, Jay Jackson, playing four his fourth team since joining the Cub system last June.  Jackson was another player I profiled in the Maple Street Press annual.  Jackson's talent has taken everyone by surprise and if he succeeds here, he could be the Cubs #2 prospect by June.

Left-hander James Russell is back in AA after washing out there to start last season.  He pitched better down in Daytona.  The left-hander's strongest pitch is his changeup.  He's the son of former Texas Ranger closer Jeff Russell.  He'll get the opening day start.

Taiwanese pitcher Hung-Wen Chen has a heavy splitter that gets lots of ground outs and he rarely walks anyone. He had a great season in Peoria and Daytona last season. Casey Lambert has a good slider and is making the transition to the rotation.  Casey Coleman continues the nepotism and is the son of former Cub pitcher Joe Coleman.  He's actually a decent prospect who pitched well last year.


The bullpen has several good prospects too, and Sandberg has said he hasn't decided who is going to close yet.  Probably the top candidate right now is Brian Schlitter, who has a nasty slider and whom the Cubs acquired in the Scott Eyre trade last season.  Blake Parker is another candidate who throws hard and is a converted catcher.  Alex Maestri has a nasty slider, which he demonstrated in the WBC last month. Lefty John Glaub came over in the Mark DeRosa trade and was discussed around here back then.

Unlike his brother, Jeremy Papelbon is left-handed and he doesn't throw that hard. Todd Blackford, Vince Perkins  and lefty Jayson Ruhlman close out the bullpen.


If I had the time and the money, the one minor league team I would see this season would be the Smokies, and not just because of Sandberg and Dollywood.  The Smokies have the most interesting collection of talent in the Cubs system, and I would not be surprised to see several of them in Chicago sometime this season.

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I'm hoping

Jay Jackson has a big year.

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by Unique on Apr 7, 2009 4:41 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Me too.

He’s the minor league pitcher I’ve pretty much committed to following the most closely this season.

"Let it begin! Let it begin!" ~ Rhino

by daver on Apr 7, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray

by Archie on Apr 7, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for this.

I live in North Carolina and get to see the Smokies play the Mudcats nearby. I’m really looking forward to this season.

by mlern on Apr 7, 2009 6:51 AM CDT reply actions  

If You're in the South, See the Smokies

I’ll see them on April 20 when the Diamond Jaxx open up their home schedule against the Smokies and on Labor Day weekend, when the Smokies come back to Jackson, TN. I think the Smokies are going to be a lot better this season. I haven’t seen Jay Jackson or Tony Thomas play yet. If you live anywhere close to a Southern League town, go check out the Smokies when they come to your area.

"The big possums walk late." - Harry Caray

by memphiscub on Apr 7, 2009 7:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Thomas

Everyone keeps slamming his defense, but Thomas made only 6 errors all last yr and some thought that his dedication to his defesne took away some from his offense. Some off that maybe Darwin Barney rubbing off on him.

by Slamdog on Apr 7, 2009 7:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Did someone say Darwin Barney?

Darwin - purple

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by daver on Apr 7, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought he said Barney Rubble.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 7, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Manny Trillo is coming in to pinch run. You know, for a lot of teams, you would pinch run for Manny Trillo." - Harry Caray

by Archie on Apr 7, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looking forward to seeing them this year

I live in Asheville which is a hop skip and a jump away. (of course the jump is over a mountain). We have the single A Asheville Tourists here who are a farm team for Colorado. There a ton of fun to watch also but the talent level leaves alot to be desired.

If the world didn't suck we would all fall off.

by carolinacub on Apr 7, 2009 8:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Baseball is back!

… and so are Josh77’s Minor League updates! Not sure how much people enjoy your work Josh, but I rather read this stuff WAY more than fanposts on trade ideas for pitchers out of San Diego.

by socalicubsfan on Apr 7, 2009 8:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Oops!

The post above should have read… “not sure you realize how much people enjoy your work…” So sorry! No disrespect intended That’s what I get for extending props. Looking forward to a great year of your entries!

by socalicubsfan on Apr 7, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Josh

always enjoy the minors update. I would love for once to have an outfielder come through this system and perform at a high level, hopefully Guyer is that guy.

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by Grockcubs on Apr 7, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Tony Thomas bears watching

Thomas is a naturally gifted hitter. I’m not ready to give up yet on this kid. Not with a swing like that. This is a big year for him obviously. But I do thing he can resurrect things.

by BLou on Apr 7, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Excellent preview.

And reading through it, yes, the Smokies do have quite a few good prospects. The fact that Brandon Guyer has been skipped a level is really good news. The kid can hit.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 7, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Random linkage.

Here’s an article on the Smokies that turned up in my Yahoo! news feed this morning. Great preview, Josh.

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by daver on Apr 7, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions  

On paper this looks like a pretty decent team. They certainly should have a better record

than last year, provided they don’t lose too many key guys during the season. i hope they get some production out of John Gaub. It would be ggod to see that Derosa deal bear some fruit.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 7, 2009 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Looks like Rob.net will get a chance to reboot in Daytona.

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(OK, OK…last image, I promise.)

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by daver on Apr 7, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Hah! last image for what? This post? This morning? Surely you jest.

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 7, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just this Fanpost.

I’m amassing a 10 GB army of images for the remainder of the day.

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by daver on Apr 7, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

And stop calling him Shirley.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 7, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Roger that, Roger.

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by daver on Apr 7, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

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"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 7, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do we have clearance, Clarence?

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by daver on Apr 7, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 7, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like that joke's over, Over

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by Shanghai Badger on Apr 7, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please tell me you don't actually use IE.

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Apr 7, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh, well, that's actually not my browser...

…but, to be totally honest, yes I do. If it helps any, it’s more out of laziness than anything else.

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by daver on Apr 7, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

The IT part of me cringes when I see IE in use.

You’d be surprised how many fewer problems people have using Firefox. But I’m just gonna stop here because I guess I really don’t care that much.

Ron Santo should sing TMOTTBG everyday. Period.

by Schwa on Apr 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've heard good things about Firefox...

…and Apple keeps bugging me to try their browser. But I’m just too lazy to try any of them. One of these days, maybe.

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by daver on Apr 7, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go on

take the plunge. It’s worth it.

Download it

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by Archie on Apr 7, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the link!

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by daver on Apr 7, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I use Firefox on my MacBookPro.

Unfortunately, I am stuck using IE when I’m at work.

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by Al Yellon on Apr 7, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I noted awhile back

Watch Casey Coleman. Here’s a kid with an excellent 3 pitch arsenal, good athleticism, still making an adjustment to full time pitching and has solid stuff already. He has some consistency issues to iron out, but overall, he’s really gone under the radar a bit, partly due to Jay Jackson’s rise. I had Casey as my number 12 pitching prospect entering the year, and out of the list of guys at Tennessee, he’s somewhere from the 2nd-4th most intriguing arm there (Jackson being first, my 2nd overall pitching prospect, 3rd best prospect in the system). For everyone following Jackson, what I’d caution is that, while I’d love for his stats to be great, the only thing that really, really matters, for me, is how his change works. If he goes through some struggles, don’t jump off the bandwagon yet. I imagine the Cubs may try to get him to use that change more. I’m still a bit surprised that the Cubs are pushing him this quick, but the rumors had been out there a couple months that he might be going to Tennessee. As I’ve said for awhile, while I would rather not see it, don’t be surprised if it is Jay Jackson coming out of our pen in September and shoring any holes up.

The other guy to note, in terms of arms, besides those 2, would be Russell. The Cubs knew they were rushing him. What was intriguing was that, as I’ve noted before, prior to being demoted, Russell was actually looking better in AA. He still has a nice fast/change pairing, and by most accounts, his breaking ball improved by year’s end. A lot of people, including myself, were harsh on him early after the year ended, but if you take a step back, he’s still a very intriguing talent, and why I had him as the Cubs 13th best pitching prospect.

To say Jeremy doesn’t throw hard is true, but within the context of lefties, he throws hard enough. He can touch low 90’s if he really rears back, but he usually sits in the upper 80’s. That said, the power lefty is a rare quantity. What Papelbon offers is a deep arsenal that allows him to deal with lefties and righties, along with his ability to be stretched out. Casey Lambert, IIRC, was originally going to be a starter at UVA, but they needed him in the pen, and there he went. This is probably more of an effort to stretch him out and get him to use more than the excellent fast/curve combination, as there’s very little chance that his future is in the rotation, IMO. They were, respectively, my 15th and 17th best pitching prospects.

Maestri was talked about in previous diaries. Excellent slider, sits in the low 90’s. More of a 7th inning, at best, setup guy, than a closer, IMO. Made excellent strides last year with his third pitch, which I thought was a change, but the guy doing the f/x diaries said he was throwing an additional splitter. Had him as the 18th best pitching prospect. Blake Parker is an intriguing pen arm. Former catcher who actually had some pop, they asked him to move to pitching, and he agreed. He actually had a stopover in Iowa, albeit brief. Pops it in around 92-94, IIRC, throws a solid slider and a decent change off the top. Every report talks about his bulldog mentality. Sort of, well, for lack of a better comparison right now, Joe Borowski with better stuff. Willingness to attack and the guts to pitch could make him a solid late inning arm, although I think he profiles best for the 7th inning. I had him as a top 50 prospect overall for us, although I did wonder if I overvalued him a bit.

Vince Perkins is another semi-intriguing name. A Canadian, he was a former top prospect in the Blue Jays system, I’m pretty certain he was drafted by Wilken without going to check right now. At one point in time, he was consistently in the mid-upper 90’s with his fastball and an excellent power slider. Dunno where it is now. Gaub has been discussed, and he’s a pen arm. Even he admitted in an interview (I Forget where) that he probably won’t ever have the arm strength to start again. The interesting thing to watch is his velocity. He was sitting in the low 90’s, occasioanlly touching mid90’s. In college, he was sitting in the mid-90’s. If he can get back to the mid-90’s, he’d be a superb LOOGY prospect with a plus slider and a usable change. Now, take the numbers (the 14 K rate) with a grain of salt, as plus breaking balls can murder A ball hitters. The walk rate is a bit of a concern, so let’s see how it plays out. The last two arms are Hung-Wen Chen. I want the kid to succeed, but he’s basically an end of the rotation guy in a best case scenario, and more likely, a middle reliever. Touches low 90’s, but sits more in the high 80’s with a split/change/slider, of the top. Jayson Ruhlman may be a sleeper to watch. Throws in the low 90’s, I think, with a solid curve and a usable change. He can get lefties out, but with Ruhlman, the big issue is walks.

The interesting thing about the array of arms there is who isn’t. Sure, a couple surprises in terms of the Smokies roster, but nothing that wasn’t speculated upon, outside of Coleman perhaps. But who’s not there? There’s Cashner … who might be Daytona. But … Marcos Mateo isn’t there, which suggests Iowa for him, and it suggests we might have a high level arm in AAA. Will be interesting to follow. Couple Chen-like guys in Carrillo and Muldowney are probably in Daytona, unless I missed an injury.

The only big surprise amongst the bats was Guyer’s jump. That said, all the raw tools are there. With Castillo, it’s a matter of whether or not his defense improves. As much as I’ve touted him, he’s still more projection than ability defensively, in regards to how he calls a game, and so forth. With Guyer, what I’d watch are two things – is he showing good discipline and is he spraying the ball. He was at his best when his flyball rate was lower last year. Clevenger piqued my interest after BA’s ranking, and I’ll be curious if the talk of improved glovework is real. I mean … Clevenger’s glovework, by some accounts, was more consistent than Welington’s.

I am not too concerned with Blake Lalli’s age just yet – his bat has played, and this is his 3rd year of pro ball. 3rd year and being in AA is fine … he was a senior college bat who went unsigned, IIRC. You love guys like Lalli … a willingness to do everything, including throw a few innings. His glovework behind the plate isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be – below average, for sure, but not horrid.

Darwin Barney is actually a plus athlete, unless my mind is going blank right now. IIRC, he was considered the Cubs most athletic player at Daytona. What he is, though, is limited in terms of offense. That said, we knew this when we drafted him. Somewhat similar to Justin Sellers, who we traded for. Sellers probably has the better bat, but Barney probably has the better glove. I don’t think the Cubs are placing too much faith on Thomas as the leadoff guy of the future. Most spec believes that Flaherty will pass him at 2nd this year. I wouldn’t be surprised with Ryno going with Adduci as the leadoff man with the Smokies. Thomas’ walk rate fell badly last year … but after being really disappointed in him when the season ended, I am now only moderately disappointed. Short of it is, in Thomas, we jumped a fairly raw guy to a tough pitcher’s environment based on rookie ball success. That said, he won’t reach the bigs with a 20+ percent K rate, so he’s got to bring that down. If Flaherty moves at 2nd, which is still spec at this moment, don’t be surprised if Thomas ends up shifting to CF.

I want to like James Adduci and have hopes for him, but there’s little indication of power. He’s a patient hitter who will slap the ball around. I guess, think Matt Murton-lite. Robnett, well, I didn’t have much expectation when the trade was made and thought Sellers was the better guy to watch. I still think that. All the world’s tools, but so swing or miss. I have some mild interest in Ty Wright … but he doesn’t have the power to really cause me to have high interest.

Matt Camp is a useful utility player in the minors (able to play IF/OF), but unless his bat shows something soon, he’s really a minor league utility player. Same goes for Jon Mota. Kyle Reynolds crashed back to earth after a surprising 2007. In all likelihood, he’s nothing more than a minor league corner IF, but there is some pop in the bat if he could just cut down on his K’s.

So, catcher was a mild surprise, as Fleita had talked about Castillo in AAA. Castillo in AA makes more sense, as he’s more projection right now. Let’s see – a bit surprised that Canzler didn’t make AA. I doubt he’s in AAA, and I don’t really want him taking AB’s from people in Daytona, despite having some pop in his bat. I’d rather see Rosa man first. Some had speculated that MArquez Smith may be rushed to Tennessee, but this makes more sense.

by toonsterwu on Apr 7, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Great analysis toons. Thanks for the info.

"Hats for bats.....keep bats warm." - Pedro Cerrano
"Hey bartender, Jobu needs a refill !!!!!!!" - Eddie Harris

by willie mays hayes' gloves on Apr 7, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

thanks

I wasn’t paying all that close attention this offseason to minor league stuff in spring.

by toonsterwu on Apr 7, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like some very interesting assignments for the Cubs to start the year

I’ll let Josh make his posts for each team, but man … some very intriguing assignments, according to AzPhil over at TCR, the best Cubs minor league resource online. His minor league stuff is always the most interesting Cubs stuff online, considering he follows them so much. But Starlin Castro at Daytona? Wow … did he advance this much in one offseason???? That one has bowled me over. He also notes that Guyer’s power has gotten better – I’m still concerned that Guyer might get into bad habits when he goes for the long ball too much, but I haven’t followed anything this spring.

by toonsterwu on Apr 7, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Tyler Colvin

I don’t think there was any expectation that he’d be in AA, but last year at this time it would have been expected. It’s sad to see his star fall the way it has.

Any chance for a comeback or is his K/BB ratio jus tway too poor?

by jerry morales rules on Apr 7, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Re: Colvin

He wasn’t expected to start this year in AA. He’ll likely be with Daytona and then get a summer bump to Tennessee/Iowa (well, maybe one month and bump him up).

With Colvin, it was interesting how he was a better hitter when his discipline was worse. He’ll never be a star, but if he can find some middle ground, he still has a shot of being a decent-solid player. Granted, the bust factor is definitely high. I guess you also have to see what sort of role his injury played in his 08 season, although my hunch is, not so much. One bad year isn’t a big deal … 2 would be a bigger concern.

by toonsterwu on Apr 7, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Colvin is hurt

He’s coming off Tommy John surgery and can’t play the outfield yet. He’s in Daytona where there is more opportunity to DH. Even being able to do that indicates his rehab is ahead of schedule.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 7, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

is ryno a good enough manager

to get the bump to AA?

no dissing, just asking. his chiefs weren’t successful last year. and AA level is vital.

by tim815 on Apr 7, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

We don't know

He gets good evaluations from the Cubs and his former players speak well of him. But won/loss records in the minors aren’t the best way of evaluating a manager, especially in the MWL.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 7, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have heard...

… that after a kind of tough first year, the Cubs were impressed with his preparation and attention to detail last year. He may be on the fast track to the major league coaching staff next year.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 7, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought

Ryno was very good. Now, the move of Jody Davis surprised me, as I had thought Jody was headed to AA. But Ryno hasn’t exactly had the strongest group of kids to work with, and I thought he did well with them.

by toonsterwu on Apr 7, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks, you three

i value your opinions.

i know that w/l isn’t the do-all and end-all in the minors. it’s difficult to evaluate managers in general, tougher in the minors. i hope he is good at developing our talent.

by tim815 on Apr 7, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

put it this way

I thought that a lot of the kids that Ryno worked with were better after their time in Peoria than before. That might be more due to his coaches.

We’re doing a good job of molding some coaching talent. Listach has up and left, which was disappointing. I like Ryno. Not sure what to feel about Jody Davis now. Kopitzke is an intriguing guy to watch.

by toonsterwu on Apr 7, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand

the Jody Davis move either, unless he asked for a lesser assignment for this year. It seemed like he did a very good job in Daytona—they did win the FSL Championship after all, although as I said, W-L records aren’t the best way of evaluating minor league managers.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 7, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

my own gut feeling is that

they are grooming jody to be ryno’s bench coach. Pure guess. I’m looking at 2011 probably.

That means, they had to clear Ryno to a higher level first, and keeping Jody at FSL with Ryno jumping him wouldn’t look good. Also, Jody wasn’t the best defensive catcher, so maybe they are hoping that, in teaching kids in his new role, he may learn some things.

by toonsterwu on Apr 7, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davis was lousy when he first came up

but he turned himself into a good defensive catcher later in his career. He actually won a gold glove in 1986. He didn’t win it with his bat, either. He only hit .250 that year but he threw out 48% of base stealers.

It may be that they are grooming Sandberg and they’d rather skip over Davis now than later. Or it may be because of something we don’t know. But I know it’s not because Davis doesn’t know how to catch, because he does.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 7, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Davis is being passed over.

He’s not going to make the majors as a coach or manager.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 7, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That may be the case

We may never know the explanation.

by Josh Timmers on Apr 8, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, maybe I should've been specific

but unless my memory is slipping me, Jody Davis’ game-calling skills was never that highly thought of. Yes, he improved his overall ability behind the plate, but even late in his career, I don’t remember much positive praise on his ability to call and direct a game.

Anyhow, it was just an idea. The Cubs did want to get Kopitzke in there to a full season slot.

by toonsterwu on Apr 7, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jay Jackson

That is the one to watch. This kid could fast track his way to the pro’s quicker than we expect. He seems to have a good mental make-up to go along with the athleticism.

by Nibbles on Apr 7, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

As I've said

I agree that he might actually see Chicago late this year, but I think that’s the wrong decision. He’s one of our few guys that has TOR potential, and I’d rather see the Cubs be patient with him until he’s absolutely ready.

by toonsterwu on Apr 7, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

"TOR potential"?

Explain.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 8, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

What he said

TOR = Top of Rotation.

There’s not that many guys in the system with that ability. I’ve been tooting Jackson’s ability to potentially be that for awhile. You have an athletic kid with a plus slider and a live fastball that most expect, as he matures, should sit in the mid-90’s. Not much of an injury concern, no big mechanical issues, no big control concern, so everything really comes down to his changeup. If it fails to develop anymore, then he’s a great pen arm, end of the rotation type. I thought he had a usable change last year, and if he can step it up a notch, and considering how raw he is to full-time pitching, then watch out.

I just worry that, in rushing him, we risk him not developing. That said, I’d take a title over his development, so if rushing him leads to a title, I’d live.

by toonsterwu on Apr 8, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

For some reason I was thinking “Toronto” and I knew that couldn’t be it.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al Yellon on Apr 8, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

along those lines

i hope he doesn’t have

SD

stuff

by tim815 on Apr 8, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

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