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Happy Mother's Day: Cubs vs. Brewers, Sunday 5/10, 1:05 CT

Another excellent entry for "Make Up Your Own Caption".

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Another excellent entry for "Make Up Your Own Caption".

Happy Mother's Day to everyone here who's a mom, and to all moms everywhere. Usually, the Cubs are playing at home in wind and rain on Mother's Day, so it's refreshing to know that if the weather's a bit cool in Milwaukee this afternoon, the game will be played in pleasant conditions indoors; the Cubs are 7-6 so far this year in domed stadiums (Houston, Milwaukee and Arizona).

There are, surprisingly enough, a couple of useful Phil Rogers notes this morning:
  • The Cubs' starting rotation leads the majors in six-inning-plus appearances -- 24, including last night.
  • The Cubs appear to have been right about Felix Pie. He is hitting .158 and the Orioles are about to "try to sneak him through waivers to get him to Triple-A."
  • The Cubs "won't stand in the way if a team wants to hire [Alan] Trammell, who is Lou Piniella's bench coach, even if it is during the season." (This in a note wondering why the Diamondbacks wouldn't have considered him or Don Baylor after firing Bob Melvin. Anyone considering Don Baylor for a managing job would have to have his or her head examined.)
Bruce Miles has the scoop on Aramis Ramirez' near future:
According to Lou and the medical people, Ramirez will be in a sling for about a week as he rests his dislocated left shoulder. Then, he'll spend the next 3-4 weeks doing range of motion and strength work. So we're talking a good month without any baseball activity. At the end of that period, the Cubs will see where Ramirez is before allowing him to do any baseball-related activities. So the best-case scenario looks to be six weeks, with eight weeks or even more probably more realistic.

The Cubs say the MRI done [Saturday] showed nothing out of the ordinary and that the soft tissue around the shoulder looked good.

This isn't great news, but it could have been worse. I suspect we'll see Aramis back after the All-Star break. Until then, the rest of the team has to step up. The offense actually did last night. If only the bullpen hadn't imploded.

Today's Starting Pitchers
Sean Marshall
Sean Marshall
Cubs
vs. Jeff Suppan
Jeff Suppan
Brewers
0-2 W-L 2-2
4.15 ERA 5.68
16 SO 18
7 BB 15
3 HR 6
vs. Mil -- vs. Cubs

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Sean Marshall 0-2 6 4 0 0 0 0 26.0 27 12 12 3 7 16 4.15 1.31


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Jeff Suppan 2-2 6 6 0 0 0 0 31.2 31 21 20 6 15 18 5.68 1.45

Jeff Suppan is 6-7, 3.87 lifetime vs. the Cubs in 20 starts, better than his career ERA of 4.65. That includes this game four weeks ago on April 12 in Miller Park, where he walked six and gave up five earned runs, including a leadoff homer to Alfonso Soriano. If the Cubs can stay patient with Suppan, they should be able to beat him again. Today would be a good day to get D-Lee back in the lineup, as he is 21-for-47 (.447) vs. Suppan in his career, with 7 doubles and 4 HR. New Cub Ryan Freel is 5-for-13 vs. Suppan. (And I find myself wondering why they couldn't have turned the lights on when they took that photo of Suppan. Maybe it was taken during the 8th-inning light-failure delay last night.)

Sean Marshall threw an inning of scoreless relief in that April 12 game. Particular nemeses of him on the Brewers are Bill Hall (4-for-5, a HR) and Chris Duffy (3-for-5, a HR). Marshall has thrown well in all four of his starts this year and has gone seven innings in his last two.

Today's game is on WGN. The Cubs are 6-4 on WGN so far this year, and 7-8 on CSN. Yes, I know it doesn't matter who televises the game; this is called "grasping at straws". For today's other games see the MLB.com Mediacenter.

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Overflow comment threads will post today at 2 pm, 3 pm and 3:45 pm CDT.

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Got to take mom to the game on mothers day last year. Hope this year goes as well. Happy mothers day and go cubs!

"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

by AndrewJStone on May 10, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Per Rotoworld:

Cubs recalled RHP Jose Ascanio from Triple-A Iowa.

Ascanio replaced Chad Fox. Ascanio had a 1.01 ERA in 26 2/3 innings as a starter, striking out 26 and walking seven. He has the potential to be a setup man, but will pitch in the back of the bullpen for the time being

by AzCubfan24 on May 10, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fox to the DL?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 10, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Per Rotoworld:

Cubs placed RHP Chad Fox on the 15-day disabled list with right elbow inflammation.
Fox has had a multitude of injuries attack him in recent years, and it was impressive how he battled back from three Tommy John injuries. His first game since being recalled from the minors ended in yet again another injury, however. He’s likely out for the year for what is being termed right-elbow inflammation.

by AzCubfan24 on May 10, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now granted all of us couldnt stand to watch when he came into the game....

but you really do have to appreciate a guy making it back from all his injury woes.

by AzCubfan24 on May 10, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

frankly, that he deserves to have been called up. Now he’s on the DL, he’ll get his time, and he’ll get his pension. The goodwill generated from this could be very helpful in the future.

That having been said, I’m glad he won’t pitch anymore.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 10, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed 100%.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 10, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

from three Tommy John injuries.

WOW!

that explains a lot

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 10, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you

think freel plays today? Is that hamstring serious?

Life's a garden, dig it.

by easyaspie on May 10, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Bobby Scales is officially

one of my top 3 favorite Cubs

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 10, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From twitter (@cst_cubs):

Sunday lineup: sori, miles (ss), fuky, milt, hoff, soto, font (3b), scales (2b), marsh.

"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

by AndrewJStone on May 10, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

scales

seems to be making Lou’s good list. he plays hard, plays smart, and gives 110% each time he is on the field. Good for him.

In a related note, good for Hoff, who seems to be making the same list the more he plays.

On a side note, would it be ironic if we claimed Felix Pie off waivers (if/when Baltimore tries to clear him? Maybe we can package Pie in a trade back to the O’s (the Pie bit ws pure sarcasm)

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 10, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like a "scrappy" alert to me!!

And you know how we value “scrappy” around here!

But for certain other players, we remove the “S!”

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 10, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How do you

give 110%?

I have been trying to figure this out for years.

If I give 100%, is that enough? How do I find the extra 10?

by The E-Man on May 10, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bravo

bugaboo of mine too

by Emelie on May 10, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you get it from the slackers all around you who are only giving 70-80%

of course, it’s not a clean transaction, Govt takes their share (what they do with it is still a mystery). That’s why picking up 20-30% from the slackers only ends up being 10% gain for you. Still, it’s better than nothing.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 10, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

all due respect, but both Hoff and Scales are playing because there are no other options

Scales wouldn’t have been in the starting lineup last night had Hendry not traded for damaged goods, and Hoff wouldn’t be playing if Lee were healthy.

And BEFORE we traded for Cybil, Miles was still getting way more PAs than Scales. For no season I can fathom other than Miles is a veteran

I think you’re projecting

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you seem all over the place

with your reply to me. I do not see how I am projecting by stating my opinion of what I have seen.

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 10, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Lee again...

How long has he been out already? Why not just DL him and call up Jake Fox for another bat off the bench?

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on May 10, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, Lee claimed a DL visit was "impossible" the other day

I think he meant improbable, or unfathomable, but either way, the Cubs are slow playing yet another injury at the expense of a short bench

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.

Lou must have read my post about putting Fontenot at 3B and Scales at 2B. Much better defensive alignment.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 10, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Happy Mother's Day!

I managed to catch just enough of yesterday’s game to watch Dempster give up the homers, then got called away again. To see this was the final score is demoralizing, although it didn’t look good at that point anyway.
Here’s hoping Marshall can have another good outing and get some run support this time.

by chitownhawkeye on May 10, 2009 11:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Think it's possible we've seen the best Dempster

can give the Cubs…his career year….and now…it’s back to the career average?

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 10, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if he hadn't been left in the game two batters two long

it would have been a quality start.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 10, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, and not an excuse

he and his wife are battling the survival of their new baby.

The child cannot swallow on its own, and is in intensive care.

However, I tend to agree that Hendry did get pantsed on the 4-year deal.

by The E-Man on May 10, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: adding on...

As a Dad, I would just request a leave of absence, to be with the situation…

by The E-Man on May 10, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can you do that?

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 10, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out

by Cubbie-Tim on May 10, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cliff Floyd took a few days to be with his family after a death

a few years back

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hooray games on WGN!

More plz thx

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by MrNFL on May 10, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Win this game, damnit.

It’s Jeff freaking Suppan.

by kanderber on May 10, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

No kidding!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 10, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

being 2.5 games out

isn’t too bad for how the season has gone so far

by lexmarklover on May 10, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Official press release about the Fox & Ascanio roster moves

Linky

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 10, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll be late to the threads

going to see Star Trek at 12:50.

"That’s the great thing about baseball, you never know what’s going to happen till you get the final out." — Lou Piniella

by drewishdrewid on May 10, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Enjoy

It was pretty awesome.

by Craig in South Bend on May 10, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which he has to do to pick up the slack left by A-Ram's absence.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 10, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

I just think a lot of people were quick to jump on him, as opposed to letting him right himself. Cub fans (and probably all baseball fans) have a tendency to jump the gun on these things.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

:-)? Ladies & Gentlemen, Prince is in da house!

A symbol for a user name? I didn’t know you could do that. Very cool. Welcome to BCB.

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 10, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This just might be a 4th place ballclub for real

Cubs are a 4th place ballclub, and right now I’m hard pressed to rationalize why there are anything better than a 4th place ballclub in 2009.

The bullpen quite simply is a nightmare. And that should not be a surprise because I think many Cub fans predicted as such before the season started.

Also, Dempster is being paid $54 million for a pitcher who will doubtful be anything better than a .500 type won loss record with a ERA hovering around 5.00. Dempster seized on a career year and we are now stuck with a massively overpaid clone of Jeff Suppan.

The lineup? Well, Soto isn’t remotely the same player he flashed in 2008 and Lee has devolved down to being the 6th best 1st baseman in the NL Central. To go along with a Bradley experiment that is off to crummy start and two plugger type overachievers forming the double play combo.

by BLou on May 10, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Now how can you call Fontenot a plugger type overachiever?

The guy has done a pretty good job of proving that he isn’t some scrappy bum, he’s played and excellent defensive 2B, and also hit for a good deal of power. Soriano is hitting lights out, and it looks like Bradley is picking it up. Fukudome is also hitting pretty well, Hoffpauir will get a chance to keep hitting for power in DLee’s absence, and our starting pitching staff is pretty darn good. This is obviously better than a 4th place ballclub.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This a pretty gloomy assessment.

Yet I find little in there that I can disagree with. I see them more like a third-place team, behind St. Louis and (gulp) Cincinnati. As currently constituted, this team has absolutely zero room for error, which is not good.

"I'll never forget how I felt last October." ~Kosuke Fukudome

by Goodie1969 on May 10, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cincinnati?

Remember who their manager is.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 10, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You laugh now, but Jocketty and Dusty have a promising young team on their hands

A nicely stocked stable of pitchers…Jay Bruce and Joey Votto…Brandon Phillips….and some nice names rising through their minor league system. Dusty is actually doing a very nice job of getting the most out of that team right now. He’s plugged and played a number of veteran cast-offs around those kids and good pitching…and it is working.

by BLou on May 10, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That may be true, but to say that they're better than the Cubs right now is incorrect.

You’re taking an extremely pessimistic view, when the fact is that the Cubs have been battling through injuries, and still are in decent shape. Moves to improve the club are being made (dumping gathright, ascanio for fox, etc) and things will work out.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually, RIGHT NOW it's 100% correct

they schooled us when we played them, and they’re ahead of us in the standings

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're ahead of us by 1 game,

and we’re around a quarter through the season. Also, we’ve played them in 3 games, which is an extremely small sample size compared to the 18 or so games we will play.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and right now, that's better than us

AND they worked us when we played them

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How did they "work" us?

They won a series, great. The Pirates win series’ from us too, and I wouldn’t say they’re better. Zambrano had a bad start against Harang, and it cost us the series. They didn’t work us.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you mean how? they absolutely shut us down the last two games

1 run in the final 18 innings. That’s getting worked. And the Pirates are obviously a bad team. Not so with the Reds. I’m not saying we won’t be better than the Reds at the end of the year, but RIGHT NOW the Reds are playing better baseball than we are.

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say the Reds are better than the Cubs

But make no mistake they are a young and talented team on the definite rise. And they are doing it with a payroll that is less than 1/2 that of the Cubs. Reds are legitimate. And despite the mockery to the contrary Dusty Baker is actually a damned good manager. I won’t underestimate what Jocketty and Baker having going. Not for a nanosecond.

by BLou on May 10, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe me,

I think Dusty Baker takes a lot of crap on this site that he doesn’t deserve. But I think they’re a couple years away.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe me.

He deserves it.

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on May 10, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why, because Alex Gonzalez dropped a DP ball,

and Mark Prior’s “perfect” mechanics turned out to be not so perfect?

by :-) on May 10, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, to begin with, he cost the Giants a World Series...

Completely butchers every pitching staff he handles, his teams strike out too much, blah, blah, blah…Come on dude.

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on May 10, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on dude?

Just because everybody around here likes to jump on some Dusty hating bandwagon doesn’t mean I should. I think you guys castigate the guy for no reason. Let’s be realistic, if he doesn’t throw that great lineup out there day after day in ‘03, we’re nowhere near the world series. He’s not great with pitching staffs, and so what? You think Lou Piniella is?

by :-) on May 10, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He "throws" the lineup out there...That's it.
“He’s not great with pitching staffs, and so what?”

Umm…That’s his job. To manage all facets of the game. That’s what a manager does. And Dusty can’t do it.

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on May 10, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You didn't have to take that quote out of context.

My point was that Lou Piniella isn’t either.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what does Lou have to do with Dusty's incompetence?

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing.

He doesn’t take half the crap that Dusty does for his bad managing, though. Our 2008 team was more talented than the ’03 version, and look what Lou did with that.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's your opinion

Dusty is in his 16th year as a big league manager and on only a handful of ocassions have any of his teams been bad. Dusty gets a lot of the teams he manages. While is to share some of the blame for the downfall of the Cubs, the bigger blame should go to Hendry for a deeply flawed roster he handed Baker. Dusty has also been solidly vindicated in the area of dismissing “can’t miss” prospects like Corey Patterson, Hee Seop Choi.

by BLou on May 10, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, dismissed Patterson

right into the Reds starting lineup…Finally gone.

Brian McRae's 5 o'clock shadow

by PurpleLineToWrigley on May 10, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just because Lou makes odd decisions, doesn't make Dusty competent

Dusty is the most overrated manager in baseball. He was blessed with very talented teams for a good portion of his managerial career, and we saw what happened here when he isn’t

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Al or Kasey...

How’d the book-signing thingee go yesterday? Did Kramer show up and try to share in the credit? You guys going to be on Regis next?

“You see, the beauty of this book is, if you don’t have a Cubs jersey, you just pull the jacket cover off and it unfolds into a jersey!”

“Fabulous! Did I tell you this guy was bonkos!”

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 10, 2009 12:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

We had a slow but steady stream, signed a few books, and enjoyed ourselves. We’re working on setting up a couple more in June.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 10, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Chad Fox thing is beyond bizarre

Are the Cubs a charitable institution? Did Chad Fox come up through the organization? Is he a popular name-worthy player in the game that has earned the respect of everyone across baseball? Did he run into a burning building and save people?

WHY then the need to call him up for a token major league apperance or two where he, not surprisingly, got his brains beaten in on the mound? Why did the Chicago Cubs run the risk of sacrificing ballgames in the name of permitting Fox the opportunity to log time against his pension requirements? WHY? WHO is Chad Fox that he is owed this great debt of service by the Chicago Cubs?

by BLou on May 10, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

that's pretty funny.

Just the other day, Chad Fox was wondering who this BLou guy was…

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 10, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Just because Chad Fox isn’t a household name doesn’t mean you can’t do the guy a nice act. A person is a person whether or not he is popular or not known by many, or in this case not liked because he isn’t as good of a pitcher as Carlos Marmol.

And why does that have to be the only reason that Chad Fox was called up? As I’m sure you’ve noticed pretty much every reliever for the Cubs this year has been pretty bad. Maybe they were just seeing if he could pitch better then what we’ve been getting.

Just relax. Were only beginning the season. It may do good for the Cubs to have to fight their way through this year.

by cubsfaninatl on May 10, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get real

Chad Fox is old and has had very severe arm problems the last several years. There were any number of veteran pitchers and minor league journeyman that the Cubs could have handed a contract to and had start the season at Triple A. Chad Fox would be very, very low on anybody’s list to give a spot in Iowa to. The ONLY reason this guy has been trying to hang around is to accrue enough vesting time toward a lucrative major league pension. Why then did the Cubs feel the need to be the enabler of all this for Fox when they knew damned well his arm is hanging on by a couple rusty bolts and that he was very highly unlikely to be able to get professional hitters out? We were going to sacrifice several major league games potentially by letting Fox come in and pitch before enacting the formality of putting him on the DL?!? WHY?!? Up until a couple years ago Chad Fox had ZERO CONNECTION to the Cub organization. It’s not like we are talking a Kerry Wood of someone who was a prized homegrown talent at one point. LOOK at the back of the bubblegum card on Fox…he was NEVER any good at the major league level safe for a semi-decent season a long time ago. And he NEVER was connected to the Cubs.

It’s bizarre is what it is. And if I were the 25 members of the Cub roster then I would be pissed by these sacrificial antics.

by BLou on May 10, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't understand how some people's minds work...

To think the Cubs actually wasted a roster spot on a guy they thought would get injured immediately so they bring him up during a series with a major competitor…right.

"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru

by LAcarl519 on May 10, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They work in strange, mysterious ways....

You have to admit that’s quite the conspiracy theory….very entertainng, but lacking any facts besides the ‘back of Chad Fox’s bubblegum card.’

Classic.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on May 10, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't buy the conspiracy

but at the moment, I’m having a pretty hard time understanding how Hendry’s mind works. The guy downgraded the roster at quite a few positions, and proclaimed the team much improved

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I feel bad for the guy, but it felt like a charity case with that guy out there

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on May 10, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 10, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry I was trying to type out a comment

but hit enter instead of the ’

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 10, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's with Suppan's picture...

He looks kinda creepy and a little ominous, almost like he’s a villain that’s up to no good, they probably shouldn’t have used the black background

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by gridiron_assassin on May 10, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why the heck is Aaron Miles batting second and playing SS?

This lineup is really a joke. And I understand there are injuries, but Aaron Miles should never be batting 2nd, or playing SS.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

at least he isn't batting cleanup, as he did earlier this year

Lou’s lineups this season have been……..bizarre

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

It is a tragedy that a ballclub with a $140 million payroll is reduced down to Aaron Miles being the only shortstop option after Ryan Theriot. Miles has NO BUSINESS of ever playing the shortstop position. You might as well put Reed Johnson at shortstop.

by BLou on May 10, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or batting....or being on the roster at all

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Someday we'll go all the way...

by CubsBullsBears on May 10, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Futher Tweaking --

Now that Fox is gone and replaced by Ascanion, Jim and Lou need to continue weeding out the bad and planting some new seeds.

Stevens up — Patton gone — Lou loved him in the spring but he has shown nothing to deserve a roster position at this point. Stevens deserves a shot.

Waddell up — Cotts gone — Neil has been consistent since he came over from the south side. Unfortunately, consistently poor is not good. I think Brenly summed it up well in the opener against the Brewers just after Heilman walked the leadoff guy and Braun was getting ready to bat. Bob mentioned that Fielder was due up but Lou had no one up in the pen at that time. Bob said that Lou was reluctant to let Cotts pitch against Fielder because of Fielder’s good track record against Cotts. So if he can’t be counted on to get out the leftys why in the God’s green is Cotts on this team? Time to give Waddell a chance.

Heilman gone — Reinhard up — Others may not like this one but for the same reason that I did not like trading for Heilman in the first place — the Mets got rid of him because he did a lousy job for them in the pen. As bad as the Mets pen was last year, they needed to make changes. Heilman was one of those problems. Just because the guy throws had doesn’t make him a good pitcher — does the name Farnsworth ring a bell?
Give Reinhard a chance.

Lee to the DL — Fox up — It’s time to get this right. If Lee is hurting as much as we are led to believe, put him on the DL and let him heal. As consistent as he was as a good contact and line drive hitter with power prior to his hand injury and subsequent problems, Lee is shadow of his former self. Bring up Fox and let him platoon with Hoff at first.

Our problems to date have been fairly clear — a lousy bullpen with the exception of Marmol and for the most part Gregg. The trio of Soto, Lee, and Bradley have been nothing short of awful all season.

The Cubs can correct or at least attempt to correct the bullpen problem. They can set Lee down until he is better. They will have to fight through the Soto and Bradley problems until they turn it around. With them, there is no other choice.

Rotate these pen pitchers from AA and AAA until we find guys who can do the job. It just makes no sense to continually trot guys out to the mound that succeed as much as a good hitter. A good hitter succeeds 3 times in every 10 that he appears at the plate. The Cubs or any good team cannot afford that same level of success.

by ceegeewow on May 10, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, let's talk about your moves.

Stevens for Patton: if the Cubs give up on Patton, he goes back to the Rockies. He’s probably worth keeping in the minors — maybe a deal could be worked out.

Waddell for Cotts: agreed.

Heilman for Reinhard: it’ll never happen with a veteran like that. I’d have brought up Reinhard or Stevens instead of Ascanio.

Fox for Lee: well, maybe. We should know more about Lee after his MRI. If Lee goes on the DL, a Fox/Hoffpauir platoon might actually work pretty well.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 10, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

He has a good arm and a good attitude. He’s just short on experience. Maybe the major leagues is not quite the right place for it.

"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra

by Al on May 10, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you forgot the word "yet"

Lou Brown: "My kinda team, Charlie, my kinda team..."

by ballhawk on May 10, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why make an effort to keep Patton?

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on May 10, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patton --

I have no problem attempting to keep him if it is a minor league thing — but if the Cubs lose him, they lose him. I just think it’s time to end the current situation with him on the roster.

Heilman — The money issue again. The Cubs had no trouble launching Vizcaino. I would think that Hendry could work a deal with another club who would wonder about Heilman’ s fastball. Maybe the Astros, the Indians, even the Yankees, or others. Maybe a change of scenery to the AL would improve his numbers. I just am tired of watching him fall behind hitters, walking too many, and giving up more hits. His performances are far too reminiscent of Howry. Same success — breaking ball out of the zone; fast ball clobbered in the zone.

by ceegeewow on May 10, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just Missed the Last One

I meant to say that the Cubs or any good team cannot afford that same level of success from their pitching staff.

by ceegeewow on May 10, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way past due time to END this David Patton thing

Yet ANOTHER wasted roster spot on this team. Unbelievable.

by BLou on May 10, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say that again.

Patton over Gaudin was f-ing idiotic. And Samardzija over Vizcaino, who hadn’t allowed a run, was also sheer stupidity. Lou holds grudges against pitchers for no reason, and it hurts this team.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and any grudge he had against Vizcaino is just bizarre

was he even here long enough to build up a grudge? I guess I’d get mad at someone too if they posted a 0.00 ERA while everyone else was getting lit up

"Oh Crap"
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by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't all work

You can’t send Patton down to the minors or we lose him back to Colorado, and despite the fact that he hasn’t pitched great, he’s still young and has a good arm. Cotts and Heilman can only be sent down by going through waivers and chances are that we would lose both of them. And besides I doubt either one would agree to go down (as they would have to in order to be optioned). So if the guys you suggest we call up don’t work out then we are completely screwed because we wouldn’t even have the originals to fall back on.

"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)

"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers

by gridiron_assassin on May 10, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he might have a good arm, but he's obviously not a major leaguer

reminds me of Kevin Hart, good arm, got lit up EVERY time he pitched in a major league game. He’s hurting the ball club.

"Oh Crap"
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by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should say isn't a major leaguer right now

if the rest of the pen was pitching well, we could afford to wait for patton to work it out, but yet another reliever who can’t get outs is hurting the team as we go through this…..whatever the hell is going on

"Oh Crap"
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by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cotts and Heilman Down ??

In my earlier post, I did not mean to imply sending Cotts or Heilman down. What I meant was to get rid of them. If others want them fine; it not fine. The Cubs can give the others a shot. They do not have to have them (Cotts and Heilman) in the wings waiting for the new guys to fail — if they do.

Cotts has been here long enough and has not been anywhere what he was 4 years ago. The waiting time for this guy is over.

Heilman’s track record with the Mets was simply awful last year. It’ s time to stop giving second and third chances to guys hoping that they will return to some previous level of success.

The Cubs have to move on if they hope to achieve success this year.

by ceegeewow on May 10, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bro, the Cubs simply can't afford to eat that many contracts

we’re already still paying Marquis, Bako, Vizcaino, and Gaudin for not playing us. We’re not going to add two more contracts to the scrap heap.

Wanna know how I know that? Because Neal Cotts is still on the roster. There’s no WAY he would be if the Cubs were prepared to eat his money

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who gets hurt next?

Fox on DL? great. Time to find that box I have with all the Tums and Kleenex in it. Whos next?

"It was a wise Man that invented Beer" (Plato)

by LarryCubFan on May 10, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, definitely.

Who would complain about that old bum getting DL’ed.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

losing fox is addition by subtraction

Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."

by DC Cubbie on May 10, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasted roster spots

Gathright – finally gone

Miles – $5 million over 2 years for a guy who can barely play 2nd base and has NO BUSINESS playing elsewhere on the infeild

Patton – he doesn’t belong in the major league right now and a Cub team that is shooting for the playoffs isn’t the place to “hide” him for a season…Patton is AWFUL

Cotts – awful, and has been generally awful ever since he was acquired so why then didn’t Hendry look for a replacement last winter

Samardzija / Fox – Spellcheck had no business being called up and at this stage is insanely overrated…Fox is just bizarre why in the world he was called up to begin with

by BLou on May 10, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great post.

Miles for 2 years?!?!?! I can’t f-ing believe that. And Patton is a joke. Cotts I think can be decent (see 2005), but we’ll see about that. And Jeff Samardzija is one of the most overrated Cub players this side of Mark DeRosa.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think the guy is great.

My only point was that he isn’t extremely old, and has had success in the past. These other guys haven’t.

by :-) on May 10, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, I'm just saying, anytime you have to point to a time that long ago, as the last time he was good

You have a problem. Cotts SHOULD NOT be on this roster. The fact that Hendry and Lou thought Cotts could be the Lefty specialist this season is disheartening, and odd

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My first chance to watch the Cubs this year..., Maybe I'm the reason it's been a bit of a bumpy start.

I doubt that it has anything to do with multiple injuries to people like Ramirez, Lee and Zambrano.

;-)

IF IT TAKES FOREVER!!

by Cubfansince1957 on May 10, 2009 1:05 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, since no one else seems to be doing play by play

the Cubs went scoreless in the first, Fuku got a hit, but no one else could manage anything

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rickie Weeks homered to lead off the bottom of the first

"Oh Crap"
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by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hart grounded out, and Braun walked

"Oh Crap"
-Famous Last Words by General George Custer

by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

well where the hell is it?

"Oh Crap"
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by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

found it. Thanks

I thought it got a bit quiet in here

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by BoVandy on May 10, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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