Rematch: Derrek Lee vs. Chris Young - Cubs vs. Padres, Wednesday 5/13, 7:05 CT
by Al Yellon on May 13, 2009 5:00 PM CDT
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Nothing seems to get Derrek Lee going these days. He struck out three times last night, and again seemed unable to turn on pitches. Obviously, I'm not a doctor nor a batting coach, but it would seem logical that someone with the neck and back problems that D-Lee has might be better served with some DL time to rest up.
Maybe facing Chris Young for the first time since June 16, 2007, when Lee felt Young was throwing at his head and a bench-clearing brawl ensued, might energize him. The other things I had forgotten about that game is that Carlos Zambrano took a no-hitter into the 8th inning and the game's only run scored on a homer by Russell Branyan.
The other big news today is the weather; the forecast looks ominous:Tonight: Showers and thunderstorms before 1am, then a chance of showers between 1am and 4am. Some of the storms could be severe. Low around 56. Breezy, with a west wind between 15 and 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between one and two inches possible.
But, that could always change or become more scattered. I imagine they'll do whatever they can to get five innings in. Years ago, they'd call a game hours early if there was a forecast like this, but now, with perhaps $1.8 million in ticket sales at stake, they won't do things like that. I hate to tell those of you seemingly obsessed with getting this game postponed and rescheduled that as of now, it is not raining and the radars are clear.
Milton Bradley quote of the day from Bruce Miles' blog:
"You want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotion, no feeling?" he said. "I don't think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who's going to get into the game and 'feel' a little bit. I've always said I really don't 'play' baseball; I 'feel' it. I try to grasp the moment and make the most out of it. I never really get too cocky about anything I do because I expect to do well."
I'm all for that, as long as he doesn't let his emotions boil over and risk injury or suspension -- and I am NOT referring to the incident currently under review, because I'm on Milton's side on that one.
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Chris Young has made four career starts vs. the Cubs, resulting in three no-decisions and a 1-0 record with a 2.28 ERA. That June 16, 2007 game was the last time he faced the Cubs; he has a 1.80 career ERA in two Wrigley Field starts. Alfonso Soriano is the only active Cub to have more than five career AB vs. Young; he is 3-for-11, all XBH: one double, one triple, one HR.
Ted Lilly's control has been excellent this year; he has issued only nine walks in his six starts. However, more strikes have led to more HR -- seven of them. Fortunately, none of them have really hurt him and four of the seven were in his first start at Houston on April 8. The only current Padre to have a significant number of AB vs. Ted is David Eckstein (5-for-34). Scott Hairston has homered twice off Lilly, but he has held Adrian Gonzalez to a 1-for-9 mark.
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I was thinking about the Young thing with Lee this morning
Let hope he says something with his bat tonight.
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on May 13, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Via Gordo
Tentative lineup: sori, riot, fuky, lee, milt, font (2b), soto, farney (3b), lilly.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living."
by jkobus on May 13, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I assume
“farney” is Freel, right? Where did that nickname come from?
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on May 13, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his imaginery friend
Say this much for big league baseball - it is beyond question the greatest conversation piece ever invented in America. ~Bruce Catton
by KaliCub on May 13, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
from Freel - it's the name of his imaginary friend
by doofus cubs guy on May 13, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's right
I remember now. Thanx
"Respect" ~ Ryne Sandberg
by gwood on May 13, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fontenot is 1 for his last 19
why not give scales a start?
by WanderingWanderer on May 13, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I wouldn't have near a problem with Lee in the lineup
if Lou would stop batting him cleanup
by WanderingWanderer on May 13, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the Cubs are a racist organization
/sarcasm
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
Fontenot has been good for a year and a half. Scales has been good for a week.
If Fontenot continues to slump, then we should give Scales some starts. But give Fontenot a chance to break out first.
by Josh77 on May 13, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying name Scales the starter for the rest of the year
but when someone is slumping this badly, a night off isn’t out of the question
by WanderingWanderer on May 13, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and what quantifies "Continuing to slump"?
1-30? he’s had one hit in his last six games. That’s a pretty prolonged slump
by WanderingWanderer on May 13, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
six games
is prolonged?
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jacque jones
brought us a whole new perspective on what a slump truly is. Until Fontenot has 3 hits in about his last 100 ABs, lets give him some starts
by murphymj on May 13, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young!
LIGHT ’IM UP!
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Old!
HELP ’IM ACROSS THE STREET!
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by dat cubfan daver on May 13, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Middle Aged
get him some Rogaine
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 13, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dead.
Not applicable.
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on May 13, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cremate 'em.
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on May 13, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we scatter their ashes in orbit?
Scotty style? (yes I realize the rocket carrying his ashes exploded…)
by lswaidz on May 13, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey
check THAT out! CLAS-SY!
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing makes me laugh...
more than when I think off DLee and Young swinging with haymakers and connecting with….air. Baseball fights are weak.
"I'll tell you what's helped me my entire life. I look at baseball as a game. It's something where people can go out, enjoy and have fun. Nothing more." - Harry Caray
by goodstuff96 on May 13, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nolan Ryan would like to see you
Hey the Cubs are good again! This will be a good test of a sig jinx.
by nji232 on May 13, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or tell it...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see
now that’s too big to post in a game thread, or it could be PERFECT for… something…
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caption:
There’s Erin Andrews! Right over there!
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings. ~Earl Wilson
by tucsoncubsfan on May 13, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to forget that DLee-Young game.
After the Keystone Cops-esque fight, I remember hoping that Big Z would throw a no-hitter and hit the game-winning home run himself. Didn’t work out that way.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 13, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It seems to me
that Lee has abandoned going to right. Everyone is pitching him outside and down and he’s pulling off the pitches. As soon as I see him driving a pitch to right center I’ll have more confidence he can bring his numbers up. Also, I’d love to see Lou sit Fontenot and Soto for a few games. Neither is making solid contact. and Hill and Miles offers us an acceptable alternative.
If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.
by tharr on May 13, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hill and Miles Scales
Fixed that for ya.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt.
Scales deserves a start after that bomb last night.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 13, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may still be catching his breath
after running the bases.
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on May 13, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles is NEVER the acceptable alternative
I’d rather leave a hole a second base
Hey the Cubs are good again! This will be a good test of a sig jinx.
by nji232 on May 13, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
If it weren't for the gutter, my mind would be homeless.
by Cubsfanatic on May 13, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno about THAT.
Ever once in a while, the ball’s just gonna hit him no matter what he does.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caption:
“If I was throwing at your head, I would have hit you in the head. Now get back in the damn batter’s box and watch me strike you out!”
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by dat cubfan daver on May 13, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Obsessed whose obsessed ?
I will just continue to chuckle at the thought of you under the giant umbrella arguing with the security trainees about
putting it up since THERE IS NO ONE SITTING BEHIND YOU.
Like I said too much time on my hands.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 13, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WAY too much.
"You can observe a lot just by watching." ~ Yogi Berra
by Al Yellon on May 14, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know if you're getting the storm we had in St Louis
but it got real dark and all thundery, and proceeded to POUND rain, but only for about ten minutes. Then it drizzled a bit and left completely. Not sure if that means a damn thing for you’ll get in Chicago, but there ya go.
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on May 13, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Caption:
“Yo mama’s so ugly that when she applied for the Ugly Contest they told her ‘NO Professionals’ "
"If it's obvious, it's obviously wrong." - a well known stock market guru
by LAcarl519 on May 13, 2009 5:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Caption
WTF? That is Gatorade, which enhances your ability, it should be illegal.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 13, 2009 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Marmol
“You suck, you suck, you suck…you’re cool, I’m out.”
by 10 14 23 26 on May 13, 2009 5:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Caption:
“Surely, this will get me on the BCB Caption Contest…”
BSG Girls = Cubs Win! So say we all.
by neverAcquiesce on May 13, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Love that quote from Bradley
In fact, I love pretty much anything the guy says. Wish we had more players like him.
by kanderber on May 13, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+21
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 13, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+31
http://irudey.mybrute.com/
Fun little Time waster!
by Rudey on May 13, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um don't throw #31 around
It is now RETIRED
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 13, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOUNG
LIGHT EM UP!
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 13, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
look up :=)
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 13, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he gets
precedence anyway.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cant wait to get rained on tonight
Itll be worth it.
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 13, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The radar sir....it appears to be...
JAMMED!
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew I picked the wrong week...
to stop sniffing glue.
by hokie316 on May 13, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only one man
would dare to use strawberry!!!
"Hey.....Cubs win!!!" ---Harry
"Swung on belted!!!"---Chip
by Hammer on May 13, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lost the bleeps, I lost the sweeps and I lost the creeps.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that movie.
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 13, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI
I work as a seat vendor at Wrigley and at 5:30pm they told us all to go home and that the Cubs were going to call the game between 6 and 7pm. I guess its not 100 percent sure until they announce it, but the fact that they sent all the vendors home makes a washout seem very likely.
by ms9av on May 13, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mother nature 1 Ted Lilly 0
I’ll bet a lot of money that Ted gets his revenge hardcore tomorrow. I’m thinking no-hitter style.
Hey the Cubs are good again! This will be a good test of a sig jinx.
by nji232 on May 13, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they still haven't called it, and it's only cloudy
by WanderingWanderer on May 13, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*fingers crossed*
Believe or Leave ~Cubswynn 9/9/2008
by slcathena on May 13, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They just said there
are tornado warnings in the area and Hendry is not sure they will play. Will be a split DH tomorrow if they can’t play tonight.
by sue369 on May 13, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow a split DH
That is gonna be a MESS.
"I daydream just like everybody else, I just do it with my body facing the field, so everybody thinks I'm paying attention."- Greg Maddux
by Doggie Stalker on May 13, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of a split DH
they should play a split-squad game!
by aldimond on May 13, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like my idea so much that I've created split-squad teams.
TEAM A
1. Fonz, 2B
2. Miles, SS
3. Dome, CF
4. Hoff-Power, LF
5. Geo, C
6. Big Z, 1B
7. Scales, 3B
8. Harden, RF
9. Lilly, SP
TEAM B
1. Riot, SS
2. LBR, 2B
3. Bradley, RF
4. Lee, 1B
5. Koyie, 3B
6. Reed, LF
7. Freel, CF
8. Marmol, C
9. Wells, P
Only Harden in RF is doing something he’s never done (AFAIK)… and he’s got speed and a good arm, should be just fine!
by aldimond on May 13, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's no tornado anything
here in Melrose Park. Could it be that localized? I’m less than ten miles from Wrigley.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Sports Nite
said they did but it looks like it’s off behind Len & Bob.
by sue369 on May 13, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now they're
taking it off.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it was
a watch and not warning. Are you in a watch?
by sue369 on May 13, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait
you sell seats?
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soriano should get a nice pad on his SB total tonight
Just get on base and going to third is practically free.
Hey the Cubs are good again! This will be a good test of a sig jinx.
by nji232 on May 13, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no, we should drop him to 5th in the line up
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 13, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only after we get Roberts and Peavy
Probably for something like Felix Pie
Hey the Cubs are good again! This will be a good test of a sig jinx.
by nji232 on May 13, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, yeah, *that* Chris Young.
If Ted Lilly decides to grace the bases with his mighty presence he might also steal some bags.
He’ll just have to be careful not to pull the second baseman’s hamstring.
by aldimond on May 13, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats up everyone.
Are we getting this game in tonight or what?
by xene on May 13, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i jsut hope we dont start and then stop soon after and lose theodore for a start
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
by fischisgod on May 13, 2009 6:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and my caps better come back tonight...
grumble grumble grumble
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
by fischisgod on May 13, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
gonna be a great season finale tonight
Funny the way it is, how a kid walks ten miles to school while another is dropping out
by heine41 on May 13, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope so i wont get to see it till tomorrow... grumble grumble grumble
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
by fischisgod on May 13, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twittermeyer reports
Z had a strong pen session. He’s off to florida for a rehab assignment this weekend. Lou says “He’s ready to play.”
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thats great news
Funny the way it is, how a kid walks ten miles to school while another is dropping out
by heine41 on May 13, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats really encouraging...
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
by fischisgod on May 13, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have the Cubs mentioned anything
about keeping Wells around to be a part of BP once Big Z is back? If he has another above average outing this week it has to be thought about seriously, wouldn’t you think?
by murphymj on May 13, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give em hell tonight boys!
I'm a lefty, maybe Lou should give me a shot for a position in the bullpen!!
by Chanman25 on May 13, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The tarp
is coming out.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know better than you bring politics into the discussion....oh wait...
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 13, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
out of town for the week
how is the weather looking/are we looking at getting at least 5 in?
by murphymj on May 13, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
now
THERE’s our tornado watch.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 13, 2009 6:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CSN probably
had access to that info before it was announced on tv. That’s where I heard it.
by sue369 on May 13, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Radar update, from a meteorologist
Shows an area of moderate rain over Chicago, but upstream there is nothing. Rain should end around 7:30pm or so, but it looks good after that. Some widely scattered showers west of De Kalb, but they are moving east-northeast.
Assuming the field is currently playable, I don’t really see a weather reason right now why the game shouldn’t be able to be played.
by anvilcrawler on May 13, 2009 6:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1 great post
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
by fischisgod on May 13, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Radar update, edit
Fairly significant squall line developing out in southeast Iowa, but that’s about 200 miles away, and a very rough guess would have an arrival time after 11pm. There may be some widely scattered severe storms ahead of this line, but right now there isn’t much after the current rain clears out by 7:30-7:45. Whether that is a big enough window to get the game in, I don’t know
by anvilcrawler on May 13, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did everyone around here major in meteorology?
by murphymj on May 13, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express
Wait…no I didn’t. And I skipped breakfast. I’m extra dumb tonight.
by chitownhawkeye on May 13, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just to stir up some thoughts during rain delay theater..
If Randy Wells pitches well again in the starting spot am i the only one who thinks lou is going to send Sean to the pen?
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
by fischisgod on May 13, 2009 7:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and the capitals decided to poop the bed......
BOO!!!!!!!!!
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
by fischisgod on May 13, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah i'm watching that game
they look horrible
by murphymj on May 13, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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