Which Cub is going to lose his roster spot to Scales
With Zambrano and Ramirez on the mend (right? I mean they are coming back eventually) someone is going to have to go bye bye to make room for the great Bobby Scales.
Scales's line so far:
BA OBP SLG
| .429 | .429 | .786 |
This guy is no slouch and as far as I can tell there is no way Lou will send him down while he is playing so great. He looks like a good 3B/2B but he might be out of luck with SS.
You might say this is a small sample size but you are obviously wrong so there is no real need to discuss this possiblity.
I'd prefer if it was Miles: he hasn't really showed himself to be much more than a servicible 2B and even though the competition might heat up his bat from here on I have not been too impressed. The only problem is that will leave us without a backup SS, so Miles is probably hanging on unless Scales can play a better backup SS (whatever that really means).
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lol
I didn’t vote, because there’s no option for “none, Scales gets sent back down.”
I’d prefer to see Miles go. Till Rami comes back, we have a three-man platoon for 2b and 3b, of Fonty, Scales and Freel. When Rami comes back, Freel goes back on the bench, and we have a two man platoon for 2b of Fonty and Scales, with Freel spot-starting at third and in RF/LF to rest players.
But what I think happens, is Rami comes back, and Scales is sent back down. I think it’s sucks, but I don’t see Lou giving up a pitcher’s spot to an infielder.
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by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, wait
misread the poll. I voted for Bobby.
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by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
way too early to tell
I think its a contest between Scales and Freel until Ramirez comes back, of course knock on wood there could be other injuries that keep them both on the roster all year.
by jeff_pico on May 15, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wish it was Miles at this point
But it is way too early to speculate, Aram isn’t coming back for awhile anyway.
Maybe Scales keeps this going, maybe he doesn’t. I hope he does. At least get him in the lineup every day while he’s hot.
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by KaliCub on May 15, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate to be a stickler...
…but, because of their major league service time, Miles and Freel can’t be demoted to Triple A. Fontenot does apparently have an option left, but sending him to Iowa over Scales seems fairly unlikely at this point (even given LBR’s recent struggles and Scales recent success). And the Cubs will almost certainly carry 12 pitchers one way or another, so I don’t think they’d sacrifice an arm for Bobby.
So it really does appear that Scales’ Cinderella story will come to an end, unless maybe Freel goes on the DL? Otherwise, I’d think Freel will stick around simply by virtue of the fact that he has 727.2 innings of major league playing time at third base.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why the Cubs are set on 7 in the bullpen
If the ’pen begins to set itself, the Cubs could send someone from there down to Iowa. They could even complete the trade to keep Patton, then send him down, since he rarely pitches as it is.
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by Trey2317 on May 15, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks like the only pen arm...
…who could be sent down right now is Ascanio. (And he just got here.) Perhaps they could take a chance on putting Cotts on waivers? Otherwise, yeah, the Patton thing may be the way to go. I wonder if he’s buried anyway – The General hasn’t pitched since May 9.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Ascanio pitches well
then that would seem to be reason enough for keeping him up. Patton’s appearances have been few and far between (which is understandable for a Rule 5 pickup), and I wonder if he and the Cubs would benefit from obtaining his rights and letting him pitch regularly in Iowa or Tennessee.
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by Trey2317 on May 15, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends
on what it takes to get those rights.
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by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactamundo
let the rocks have some AA pitcher that is struggling a bit.
that oughtta get it done.
by tim815 on May 15, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see
It may be a case of National League pitchers adjusting to Scales’ bat. I am sure there are coaches and scouts researching this as we speak.
by NWIowaCubFan on May 15, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn that 2 year contract for Miles.
Damn it to HELL! Sorry Hendry, I’m a big supporter, but you royally messed that one up.
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by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 12:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
There was likely no competition for Miles. Could have signed him to a one year deal, or even one year with an option.
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by Al on May 15, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was there NO competition?
I thought the Cardinals wanted him back. I agree he’s overpaid, but Hendry tends to overpay the role players he wants.
Anyway, I do think Miles could lose this competition. If Freel and Scales hit, Miles doesn’t offer much over them. But they do have to both hit, because Miles has the contract.
Derrek Lee is good.
by DGU on May 15, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose Freel could be the guy that's let go.
The Cubs are paying him $800,000 essentially. Even though i think he’s better than Miles, it might make the most sense (business-wise).
That’s assuming Scales keeps wow’ing Lou.
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by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is so funny
the same group who wanted Hoff sent to Korea for Hee Sop Choi (ok, exaggerated, but you get the drift) because he was a 29 year old rookie who could not produce are not making polls about what vet to ship out for a 31 yera old rookie who has proven less.
Irony at its best
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by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 12:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
are now making polls****************
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are not the same thing.
The Hoff chatter is for him to replace Lee and/or start everyday. His glove does not allow this. I haven’t seen anyone say Hoff hasn’t earned his role as LH Power PH and backup 1B.
The lobby for Scales is for him to be the end of bench utility guy, a role he seems perfectly suited.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you keep saying that
and everytime you do, the Hoff supporters correctly point out that very, very few of us ever argued that Lee should be demoted in favor of Hoff. The most extreme view that got any traction was that they should platoon, but even that was out there.
The typical pro-Hoff position was that he should make the roster coming out of Spring Training (that was NOT a widely held view until late in camp); should be the top choice for a PH in RBI situations; should get 1-2 starts a week in the OF; and 1-5 starts a month at 1B to spell Lee. That’s it. The only person spouting this “replace Lee and/or start everyday” nonsense is you.
by Orval Overall on May 15, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's significantly untrue.
Clutche doesn’t seem to be around much anymore, but he was in favor of playing Hoff over Lee. There are other people who are talking in much the same way.
The worry about Hoff was that he didn’t seem to have a pinch-hitter’s mentality — that he needed to see a pitcher for at least a few at-bats before being able to get that important hit. The good news is that he appears to have gotten past that, and has some good clutch hitting for us as a pinch-hitter.
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by drewishdrewid on May 17, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well wait
I was the biggest Hoff supporter- in fact I started the official Hoffpauir/Theriot Athletic Supporters bandwagon by myself. I was mocked mercilessly at the time for my incredibly prescient baseball knowledge.
I was not saying he should replace DLee- I just said he can hit the ball real well and deserves a shot at the bigs.
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by Andre Fonseca on May 15, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't recall anyone being mocked for
saying he deserved a shot. I do recall disagreeing with someone who thought he earned an everyday spot
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes people were mocked for it
in fact, I was mocked for it more than once, including being told that Hoff is worse at 1B than the ladies from A Leage Of Their Own and that I must be blind to believe a 29 year old rookie can have any value to this team.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do recall the age arguments, but as
someone who now thinks 29 is pretty young, it wasn’t my argument. As for value, he’d have quite a bit if was adequate anywhere but 1st.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was saying in general
not towards you
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Understood, though
I’m as big an DB as the next guy if someone disagrees with me.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Miles doesn't get sent down
but he gets traded?
Either way, it’s much too early to decide anything. I think Scales is safe until Ramirez comes back so there will be a better sample size to judge what he can bring at the major league level.
by jerry morales rules on May 15, 2009 12:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps the Cubs just expand to a 26-man roster...
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by digitalbenjamin on May 15, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now there is a good idea.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
Lou would want to add another pitcher.
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by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or another
thirty something rookie.
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by wild bill on May 15, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened to the "career minor league player" mentality here?
I hope Scales hangs with us, I just live the irony.
The wheels on the bus go round and round, until the wheels fall off, and then the bus falls down and goes boom
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by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Some balance
I hope Scales proves to be a long term contributor, I really do, however we need to have a little caution here and realize that he’s been up for a week or so and the scouting reports on him very well may lead to his stats returning to earth and Cub fans finding out why exactly he spend 11 years in the minors. A few weeks ago Emilio Bonifacio was on fire and then the scouting reports caught up with him. So I hope Scales can adjust but lets just temper our excitement a tad.
by dmlichte on May 15, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
No doubt.
But why are you repeating what the poster said already? He’s acknowledged that it’s a small sample size, he’s saying what if….
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so there's no room...
… for balance? We’re only allowed to supposes that Scales is going to do great? The issue of Scales was brought up and IMO it did not focus on the sample size and scouting reports… there was one line in there about it. Not sure what your problem is here.
by dmlichte on May 15, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem.
But it’s pretty clear that he understands it’s a small sample size. The purpose of the post is to discuss what would happen if he keeps it up.
That’s not to say your point isn’t valid. It’s just redundant and misses the point of the post.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh?
Posts go into all sorts of directions, often away from what the original poster intended. He made a passing reference to sample size but did not address the deeper issues into both the likelihood of Scales’ numbers dipping and the over exuberance of fans here. So I don’t really care about the point of the post. When talking about Scales it is more than worth while to discuss these issues.
by dmlichte on May 15, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your point isn't a deep issue at all.
The idea that he regresses has been talked about a lot and pretty widely understood as inevitable. It’s not that new or interesting, especially when the poster himself acknowledges that. The more interesting idea is what would happen if Scales does keep it up.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I guess he wins ROY award
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by wild bill on May 15, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha I meant with the roster.
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by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
And as people debate the variety of players who can be removed from the roster, I felt it worth while to send out the reminder. If you found my two cents to be a waste of space, then why bother responding? Its tiresome when people just post to tell someone that their post was a waste of time and space.
by dmlichte on May 15, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
Isn’t that exactly what you were doing?!?
“…temper our excitement a tad.”
If you didn’t want to participate in the original idea of the poster, than you should have moved on instead of flaming him. And don’t get pissed when I call you out on your hypocrisy.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
where did I flame him?
seriously. Reading is a skill. and how am I being hypocritical? I didn’t tell anyone not to post anything. I told people to temper their enthusiasm on Scales a bit, though. I realize that nuance befuddles people, but this is pretty simple.
by dmlichte on May 15, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line, those who "play", will Stay
If Scales somehow, against all odds, does keep hitting well and scoring RBIs, and plays at least servicable on the field, he will stay. Evferybody from Hendry on down to the bat boy wants hits, runs, and wins, by whoever can help get them.
But when the hitting by Scales dries up, he will be gone.
I don’t think however that any veteran will be traded to keep him on the roster. because at the end of the day Scales is not really a “wonderkid” or anything like that. He is sort of old (31), and his abilities are limited, in that he does not have speed, range on the field, etc. Someone who can be sent down will be, if Roster space demands it, and Scales is still producing. Once Scales stops producing, he will be sent down.
Let’s enjoy someone living their dream, enjoy the hits he gets, enjoy the feel good story, while it lasts.
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by letsplay2two on May 15, 2009 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Small Sample Size
But regardless, he’s impressed me a lot in that small sample size.
by ak123 on May 15, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
there should be one more Poll option
TOO SOON TO TELL
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by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tuffy Rohdes
"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"
by wild bill on May 15, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no disrespect to the poster ...
but why bring this up when Ramirez is still a month (or more) from returning?
by elgato on May 15, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
because it's raining...nothing else to talk about.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll name 5 million guaranateed reasons why it won't be Aaron Miles
I’m pretty sure Jim Hendry has swallowed all the contract dough he can possibly swallow without getting Sam Zell and the ghost of Tom Ricketts to kick him right in the nut sack and fire him on the spot. Miles won’t be going anywhere, like it or not.
by BLou on May 15, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
'Cause you think he's roided up?
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hendry
Ricketts or Miles?
Or BLou? After all, if no one is above suspicion, perhaps BLou is on the juice. His posting frequency IS up.
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by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm
Jealous at least Blou has something that goes up.
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by wild bill on May 15, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i noticed his
KOWZR drop off after we started the detailed analysis- he might be one step ahead of the game
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by Andre Fonseca on May 15, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BLou could be on viagra then
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs have $5 million guaranteed invested in Miles
Like it or not, his roster spot is secure. Hendry cannot keep gulping mass quantities of salary.
by BLou on May 15, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I think if Scales does keep it up, Freel goes.
"Pounding sand since 1982...."
by cubswynn on May 15, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
While That's what I want if Scales
keeps producing, I think he’ll go back down to AAA as the guy who can and allow Hendry to give Freel some time to see if he adds value and/or could be traded. Not fair to Scales if he’s for real, but it’s a business.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the problem remains that...
…one can make a much better case that Ryan Freel is a qualified backup third baseman. And that’s really the kind of depth the Cubs need. It’s unfortunate, because I’m enjoying The Substitute, too. But he and Aaron Miles are essentially redundant and, as noted, Miles’ contract may trump Scales’ success on the field.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Substitute
I like it- is that official™
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by Andre Fonseca on May 15, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we've been throwing it around.
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by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like Substitute
it reminds me of those movies, he is a teacher who is laid back and easy going, then strikes when you least expect it.
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
strikes!
like… a COBRA… :P
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by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stings like a bee?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I'd try it out there.
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by dat cubfan daver on May 15, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We may need to chip in a case of
barbeque sauce to help him get it all down.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Hendry has already gulped nearly $9 million on Jason Marquis / Luis Vizcaino. Another $2 million on Chad Gaudin. Spare change on Paul Bako. He ate salary on Jock Strap Jones previously. And he is operating with a bloated heavily back-loaded payroll that is already bursting at the seams at $140 million. Therefore I seriously doubt Hendry will be eating another shit sandwich courtesy of the Aaron Miles contract.
by BLou on May 15, 2009 2:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So, you're declaring as absolute fact, today,
that Aaron Miles cannot be traded ever, to anyone, at any time, without Hendry eating his contract?
Cripes, all Hendry needs is some contending GM to think Miles is a better utility option than what they have. His 2007 & 2008 numbers weren’t the worst ever.
I still don’t understand how you can make a statement like this.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll buy you a steak dinner if even ONE team can be identified who would take Aaron Miles off our hands without swallowing salary
by BLou on May 15, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, any team in MLB CAN do it
now that does not mean that they would. So i just identified 29 teams that can do so. Where is my dinner.
And unless you have insight to the finances that we are missing, you cannot guarantee anything about the roster and what Hendry can or cannot do. So far he has been able to eat some $$$ to make moves, and that does not mean he will not be given a green light to do so again or not. You are SPECULATING not GUARANTEEING since you are UNABLE to
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he said would
not could.
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
by Villeslgr on May 15, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and how does he know who would and would not?
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh i agree
He doesn’t know. I just didn’t want you to get the steak dinner. Now it’s still out there for the rest of us to win. Maybe with a side of Al’s scorecard.
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
by Villeslgr on May 15, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you steak blocked me
thats just not right
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with
Tim above, but you continue to miss the point. You’ve decided because you view Miles is worthless, therefore he has no value.
While probably preposterous to you, the opinion of BLou has no value to GM’s in the league. All it takes is one of them determining their middle IF guys at AA and AAA are not ready and need a utility guy.
Further, Hendry has traded more expensive and more useless talent than Miles without throwing in money.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
who EVER thought Hundley would be traded, and more important, for key contributors to a NL Central Divisoin winning team
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh...
I’m done here. Aaron Miles is untradeable in this current economic climate for baseball and given his contract. There is not a single team in baseball who would be willing to acquire Miles unless Jim Hendry were prepared to eat a lot of salary. But hey, if you want to think there are 29 teams chomping at the bit to take on Miles and his $5 million contract over the next two years, then whatever floats your boat.
by BLou on May 15, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, that's what I said. /sarcasm
I said that 29 teams were begging Jim to acquire Miles. You’re ability to ignore the written word and twist to fit your bombastic opinions is legendary. I’m not sure why I’m bothering.
if this was still new to me, i wouldn't understand
by N Oakley on May 15, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swooosh
right over your head.
I’m done here.
I don’t believe you.
"I don’t really play baseball, I feel it." -- Milton Bradley
by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
San Diego Padres.
They need a SS.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 15, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles for Peavy
with financial considerations from the Pad. :P
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by drewishdrewid on May 15, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only if they give us Adrain as well
we dont want to get ripped afterall
baseball is a game of outs......pop out, ground out, line out, pitch out, strike out, fly out, and Fox and Bud's favorite black out
by Cubbie-Tim on May 15, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when did Aaron Miles becomea viable major league shortstop???
by BLou on May 15, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For San Diego...he's better than anyone else they currently have.
As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.
by santoswoodenlegs on May 15, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might have missed some sarcasm
But aren’t they 11 games back?
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
by Villeslgr on May 15, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were done here. That is what you said a few posts up
"That's what you live for. You live for the opportunity and when that day comes, you better be ready," Soto said. "I tried to make sure that whenever they gave me a chance, I was ready and I knew I had to take advantage of the opportunity."
by Madison Cub Fan on May 15, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe comments like this
are part of the reason why.
by Orval Overall on May 17, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
because I’ll have to step up production, then.
You weren’t here last year. You don’t know what it was like.
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by drewishdrewid on May 18, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
It would be nice to have a GM who would take Miles without Hendry eating the contract.
However how valuable is a guy who has lost his spot to a 30 year old minor leaguer up for the first time? I think most GMs would see the predicament that Hendry would be in trying to trade Miles and I wonder who if any would be willing to help us out for nothing?
Also I thought the interest shown to Miles in the offseason was pretty non existant. What has he done this year that would generate any?
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
by Villeslgr on May 15, 2009 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously? Fonty?
The guys our starting second basemen. Unless you’re predicting he loses it to Scales. I say Miles or Freel.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 15, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember when
Fontenot got called up and hit over .400 for a month (or thereabouts)? The guy was awesome. Then reality set in, and he was just a pretty good ball player.
I like Scales, I think he can play at this level, I think its a shame he didn’t get an opportunity earlier, and I love that when he got one now he made the most of it. Its inspiring, frankly. I’m 31 too and when I think back on what I’ve done the last eleven years, I can’t imagine that I would’ve had the determination Scales had to stick with something for that long with no real likelihood of ever getting where he is today. That he did so is a great story and I’m thrilled he’s getting to live it.
But I just cant see the case, other than a sentimental one, for keeping Scales over Fontenot right now. Scales’ current hot streak validates him no more or less than Fontenot’s hot streak validated him when he first arrived. I think reality for both of them is a lot closer to what Fontenot is doing now, than it is to what either did when first called up. I bet Scales goes down, but gets recalled as soon as there is another injury to another infielder. And, I think one way or another he’s earned himself a September vacation in Chicago.
Regrettably, I think that’s it. I agree with the posters who say Hendry can’t commit Hari Kari with the Miles contract this soon, and I’ll also add I think Miles is a useful player to have around, though perhaps not on a team whose starting SS and 2B are basically the same kind of player. Freel is an option if they only wanted him as an emergency replacement for A-Ram, but I doubt it; he’s an even more useful player than Miles, and has a little bit more pop as well. Lastly, with the bullpen in shreds, they can’t go a man down just to keep another guy who won’t play much behind Freel anyway.
Sorry, and bye for now Bobby, hope to see you again soon.
by Orval Overall on May 15, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the important thing to remember is that
Aramis might not be back before the All-Star break. If Scales is still doing then what he is doing now and Freel, et al. have not produced, then it would seem conceivable that Scales would stay up and someone else would be moved.
"Do you want a bunch of duds walking around with their shoulders slumped and having no emotions, no feelings?" Bradley said. "I don’t think the fans want that. I think they want a guy who’s going to get into the game and feel a little bit. I’ve always said, ‘I don’t really play baseball, I feel it.’ "
by Villeslgr on May 15, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You might say this is a small sample size but you are obviously wrong so there is no real need to discuss this possiblity.
Obviously wrong. I mean, this guy just screams major league talent. Which is why he’s been stuck in the minors for over a decade. There’s absolutely no way he’s essentially middle infield roster filler, of which the Cubs will have a surplus when Ramirez gets back. Don’t even have to discuss it.
Yep.
by cwyers on May 16, 2009 1:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just like I said about Hoff during Spring Training
I do not care if he has been in the mionors for 1 day or 1 decade. I do not care if he is 19 or 91. If the guy can help us won, this season, that is all I care about. In about 7 weeks Lou will have to make a choice about the roster spot, unless Hendry makes one for him sooner (with a trade). So before writing him off, or suggesting he gets a statue next to Goodman and HWSNBN, lets see what happens in the next few weeks, and then make our opinions.
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by Cubbie-Tim on May 16, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just joking about the sample size
But I was interested to see who people thought would be expendable if Scales keeps up the hot hitting.
Of course his E at 2B the other day was cause for concern.
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by Andre Fonseca on May 18, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mention errors to Colin
St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008
by vivaelpujols on May 19, 2009 4:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
scales
be a while before this decision has to be made.miles makes too much to be sent to aaa.and if fontenot keeps slumping maybe lou needs to go back to the platoon role with him. i could possibly see releasing freel if they had to.
by NOMAR on May 16, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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